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macro
09-23-2007, 05:14 PM
I never thought I'd see it, but UK is ranked 14th in today's new AP poll. I think it's way too high, but we'll take it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/polls?poll=1&date=2007-09-23

It's their highest ranking since they finished the 1977 season ranked 6th (10-1 record) and were banned from playing in a bowl due to being on probation.

The bad news is that after next week, they're at #16 South Carolina and then host #2 LSU and #4 Florida. Do they have any chance of avoiding going 0-3 in those games? Furthermore, four of the six teams in the SEC East are in the top 16, and that doesn't include Tennessee. They could be among the best 25 teams in the country and still finish 5th out of six teams in their division.

Blimpie
09-23-2007, 05:22 PM
There is some preliminary talks that--IF they win their next two games (FAU and South Carolina)--then an undefeated UK (6-0) hosting undefeated LSU (6-0) would make Lexington the host site for ESPN College Football Gameday on October 13.

While that would be pretty cool, I personally think that the Thursday night game at South Carolina is going to be one of the tougher battles of the year for the Cats to win.

WMR
09-23-2007, 05:31 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

GO BIG BLUE

Wow, having College Gameday in Lexington would be pretty amazing considering our football history of the past few decades.

cumberlandreds
09-23-2007, 07:29 PM
Wow! Fourteen! That's a lot higher than I thought they would climb. This could be a special season for the Cats but those three coming up are killers. South Carolina,LSU and Florida just dont' get much harder than that.

BRM
09-24-2007, 12:32 PM
Cheaters. Someone should check for cameras on their sidelines.

Chip R
09-24-2007, 01:27 PM
Cheaters. Someone should check for cameras on their sidelines.


Not Kentucky. They'd never cheat. :p:

WMR
09-24-2007, 02:30 PM
Hardy har har... I knew the peanut gallery'd have to throw their 2 cents in!!! ;)

Blimpie
09-24-2007, 02:42 PM
Not Kentucky. They'd never cheat. :p:Hey! We resemble that remark....

FIRELEFT
09-24-2007, 03:12 PM
They r good very will coached.
They Block great.
they can beat SC.
Florida I don't know.
LSU, that would take a miracle.
But I hope they beat them all.
They made me cry Saturday I want others to feel the pain.

durl
09-24-2007, 03:55 PM
Simply amazing. It's been fun to watch these kids turn this program around and make people take notice.

KY may be ranked too high...I don't know. The thing is, other good teams are losing while KY is winning so you can't knock their high ranking. The ride may not last long and they might be over-acheiving. Still, it's fun to watch and I hope they do well the rest of the season.

WMR
09-24-2007, 04:14 PM
How weird is it not to be counting the days till midnight madness and hoping football ends sooner rather than later???

dabvu2498
09-24-2007, 06:02 PM
How weird is it not to be counting the days till midnight madness and hoping football ends sooner rather than later???

Ask Tennessee fans the opposite question.

WMR
09-24-2007, 06:05 PM
Ask Tennessee fans the opposite question.

Haha, good one.

Blimpie
09-24-2007, 06:16 PM
Happiest guy in Lexington right now has to be Billy Clyde Gillispie...

Because of the football team's success, all of the Herald Leader's column inches are being devoted to something other than UK basketball....or perhaps, certain tabloid stories that could be emerging about the UK basketball coach this VERY week.

In actuality...those stories WOULD have already been written...were the football team were not front page news virtually every day.

macro
09-24-2007, 06:44 PM
Happiest guy in Lexington right now has to be Billy Clyde Gillispie...

Because of the football team's success, all of the Herald Leader's column inches are being devoted to something other than UK basketball....or perhaps, certain tabloid stories that could be emerging about the UK basketball coach this VERY week.

In actuality...those stories WOULD have already been written...were the football team were not front page news virtually every day.

Come on, Blimpie, don't tease us like that. What's Clyde done? Is it bad?

Blimpie
09-24-2007, 07:00 PM
I am not usually one to gossip about UK sports, but only because it was YOU who asked, Macro....:cool:

Granted, B.G. is a grown man who also just so happens to be single; however, I have a few friends who ran into him the other night at a popular downtown establishment. It was pretty late and he appeared to be having what I will refer to here as a "Larry Eustachy Moment."

Again, so long as he took a cab home...or took a cab somewhere...nothing he was doing was considered illegal. But, being as though there were quite a few unflattering stories written about him when he was hired that related to his previous alcohol usage, I just didn't much care for the timing of his actics. Well, that, and the fact that he was not doing much to conceal his behavior.

This sports program has come a long way in an effort to rehab its image. We're not quite there yet, but it is heading in the right direction. All it would take would be to have one camera-phone image from that night, and then we would have a different banner atop the sports section today.

I am not saying that it would be unfair, but the local media here is definitely capable of doing some damage given what was said about Eddie Sutton and his 'habits' when he was coaching here.

I like Billy Clyde. I just want him to get a chance actually to coach a few games before people around here start forming opinions about him. I absolutely love the way the football team is performing. But right now, the basketball season could not start soon enough for my taste.

WVRed
09-24-2007, 07:08 PM
I am not usually one to gossip about UK sports, but only because it was YOU who asked, Macro....:cool:

Granted, B.G. is a grown man who also just so happens to be single; however, I have a few friends who ran into him the other night at a popular downtown establishment. It was pretty late and he appeared to be having what I will refer to here as a "Larry Eustachy Moment."

Again, so long as he took a cab home...or took a cab somewhere...nothing he was doing was considered illegal. But, being as though there were quite a few unflattering stories written about him when he was hired that related to his previous alcohol usage, I just didn't much care for the timing of his actics. Well, that, and the fact that he was not doing much to conceal his behavior.

This sports program has come a long way in an effort to rehab its image. We're not quite there yet, but it is heading in the right direction. All it would take would be to have one camera-phone image from that night, and then we would have a different banner atop the sports section today.

I am not saying that it would be fair, but the local media here is definitely capable of doing some damage given what was said about Eddie Sutton and his 'habits' when he was coaching here.

I like Billy Clyde. I just want him to get a chance actually to coach a few games before people around here start forming opinions about him. I absolutely love the way the football team is performing. But right now, the basketball season could not start soon enough for my taste.

While I love what BCG is doing on the recruiting trail, I have a feeling that the worst case scenario is that he could be another Eddie Sutton.

Blimpie
09-24-2007, 07:11 PM
While I love what BCG is doing on the recruiting trail, I have a feeling that the worst case scenario is that he could be another Eddie Sutton....and wouldn't that be an easy storyline for an unambitious sports writer to pursue...

I guess you and I share the same concern, WVRed.

dabvu2498
09-25-2007, 09:25 AM
Go figure... a thread about UK football turns into rumors about its' basketball coach. :lol:

However... leave it to the New York Times to bring us back on topic.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/24/sports/ncaafootball/24college.html?em&ex=1190779200&en=954d62d70aad5caf&ei=5087%0A

Blimpie
09-25-2007, 04:31 PM
The biggest indictment of the roster he took over, though, may have been that only one player on his first team ran a 40-yard dash under 4.5 seconds. Brooks said that this spring, there were 15 players who ran under a 4.5. When the ESPN crew quoted this stat the other night during the game, it was the first time I had ever heard it mentioned.

It is absolutely mind-blowing what probation can do to a program in short order.

Blimpie
09-25-2007, 04:37 PM
That's a pretty refreshing article considering that it was written with a national perspective...

I agree about Brooks and his sense of humor. Without a doubt, Brooks is also the most media-savvy football coach ever to take the helm at UK.

Other than Pitino, I cannot think of any other UK personality who has ever used the media to his advantage more efficiently than does Rich Brooks.

George Foster
09-25-2007, 10:56 PM
First the BG rumors:

I know for a fact that The President of UK, Lee Todd, called him in several weeks ago and "reminded" him he was a public figure, and the face of the University. That's all I know that was said. So he has been taken to the wood shed, and been warned. Lee Todd will not mess around. Lexington is still a "small town" in social circles. The Lexington paper has shown great restraint in not pubishing articles. BG works hard and plays hard...maybe plays too hard for Todd.

Getting back to football:

I want to beat Spurrier more than I do Florida or LSU. He's a jerk.
I want to have the game won with the ball and punch in another TD at the end of the game. I want Spurrier to say something smart to Brooks at mid-field after the game, and for Brooks to punch him right in the mouth...that would be my sports center highlight of the year. Every coach in the SEC would get together and buy Brooks a gold watch!! HA HA:thumbup:

WMR
09-26-2007, 03:22 AM
Getting back to football:

I want to beat Spurrier more than I do Florida or LSU. He's a jerk.
I want to have the game won with the ball and punch in another TD at the end of the game. I want Spurrier to say something smart to Brooks at mid-field after the game, and for Brooks to punch him right in the mouth...that would be my sports center highlight of the year. Every coach in the SEC would get together and buy Brooks a gold watch!! HA HA:thumbup:

That's awesome.

WMR
09-26-2007, 03:22 AM
What bar was he at, Blimpie?

WVRed
09-26-2007, 08:20 AM
Getting back to football:

I want to beat Spurrier more than I do Florida or LSU. He's a jerk.
I want to have the game won with the ball and punch in another TD at the end of the game. I want Spurrier to say something smart to Brooks at mid-field after the game, and for Brooks to punch him right in the mouth...that would be my sports center highlight of the year. Every coach in the SEC would get together and buy Brooks a gold watch!! HA HA:thumbup:

I have a feeling that this will be a chip on Kentucky's shoulder, given that a Kentucky team has never beaten Spurrier(to my knowledge).

Kentucky needs to beat at least one of the next three after Florida Atlantic, and that wont be an easy task given Howard Schnellenberger is their head coach. After that, Kentucky should cruise the rest of the way.

Would two wins out of the three give us a shot at a BCS? I figure LSU is the most losable game we have right now.

DTCromer
09-26-2007, 11:03 AM
http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper868/stills/sn2c3j1w.jpg

Blimpie
09-26-2007, 09:07 PM
What bar was he at, Blimpie?The Big Blue Martini (downtown across from the Radisson)

WMR
09-26-2007, 09:58 PM
The Big Blue Martini (downtown across from the Radisson)

Nice place. Upscale.

macro
09-27-2007, 02:23 AM
Nice place. Upscale.

I have a buddy that used to be a bartender there. His tips would sometimes range in the hundreds of dollars...for one night!

dabvu2498
09-27-2007, 03:04 PM
Did anyone hear the Rich Brooks segment on Rome's show today? I missed it.

WMR
09-27-2007, 03:10 PM
Did anyone hear the Rich Brooks segment on Rome's show today? I missed it.

Oh damn, me too, if anyone has a link, post it please!

Chip R
09-27-2007, 03:11 PM
Did anyone hear the Rich Brooks segment on Rome's show today? I missed it.


I heard a little of it. Rome called UK, KU. :lol: Brooks said the SEC is a tough conference and has 4 USC type programs in it. He talked about how tough it was at first with the lack of scholarships and they are turning the corner. I really only listened to the beginning and the end of the interview though.

macro
10-01-2007, 12:38 AM
Well, if no one else is going to bump this thread, I guess I'll have to do it. :cool:

The Cats are #7 in the Harris Poll and #8 in the other two. I love me some Cats, but I still can't bring myself to believe that they're a Top Ten team.

And the thing is, if they lose the next three games, which are games they reasonably could be expected to lose, the voters will drop them out of the polls. They're not as good as they're voting them today, and they're probably better than they'll be voting them three weeks from now.

Oh, well, this is fun.

macro
10-01-2007, 01:15 AM
There is some preliminary talks that--IF they win their next two games (FAU and South Carolina)--then an undefeated UK (6-0) hosting undefeated LSU (6-0) would make Lexington the host site for ESPN College Football Gameday on October 13.

While that would be pretty cool, I personally think that the Thursday night game at South Carolina is going to be one of the tougher battles of the year for the Cats to win.

Blimpie, have you heard anything about the start times and/or TV details for the Florida and LSU games? The rest of the schedule is listed as TBA at this point on Yahoo.

kyred14
10-01-2007, 03:55 AM
Blimpie, have you heard anything about the start times and/or TV details for the Florida and LSU games? The rest of the schedule is listed as TBA at this point on Yahoo.

Looking at the SEC schedule, I don't see any way that CBS doesn't pick up the LSU game. Auburn/Arkansas is the next best game that day.

In Florida's case, the UT/Bama and Auburn/LSU games could be picked over UK/UF. But LSU doesn't like moving their night games, and UT and Bama are both unranked.

So it looks like there's a pretty good chance the next three games could be on national TV. Looking at the opponents, I don't know if that's a good thing or not.

I never thought I would see the day I would look at a Football poll and see UK at #8. At this point, I'm just going to enjoy it, after all, it may never happen again.

Javy Pornstache
10-01-2007, 05:48 PM
Looking at the SEC schedule, I don't see any way that CBS doesn't pick up the LSU game. Auburn/Arkansas is the next best game that day.

In Florida's case, the UT/Bama and Auburn/LSU games could be picked over UK/UF. But LSU doesn't like moving their night games, and UT and Bama are both unranked.

So it looks like there's a pretty good chance the next three games could be on national TV. Looking at the opponents, I don't know if that's a good thing or not.

I never thought I would see the day I would look at a Football poll and see UK at #8. At this point, I'm just going to enjoy it, after all, it may never happen again.

It's official... CBS has announced the LSU-UK game as their SEC Game of the Week, it'll be on at 3:30pm.

Heath
10-01-2007, 08:31 PM
It's official... CBS has announced the LSU-UK game as their SEC Game of the Week, it'll be on at 3:30pm.

Home game at Commonwealth. However, don't over look the Ol Ball Coach. South Carolina's on the same path as UK.

jmac
10-01-2007, 09:58 PM
Well, if no one else is going to bump this thread, I guess I'll have to do it. :cool:

The Cats are #7 in the Harris Poll and #8 in the other two. I love me some Cats, but I still can't bring myself to believe that they're a Top Ten team.

And the thing is, if they lose the next three games, which are games they reasonably could be expected to lose, the voters will drop them out of the polls. They're not as good as they're voting them today, and they're probably better than they'll be voting them three weeks from now.

Oh, well, this is fun.
Yes it is fun. Maybe it is partly because so many of the teams dont look so tough after several weeks but Ky can play with most any of these teams.
LSU # 1 and leads Tulane 10-9 at halftime. USC #2 and basically all running team. Would Ky beat all these, no. But I think they can actually play with them.
Personally I hope they at least finish around 9-3 and win a bowl game and I think that will keep this program heading in right direction with the guys we have coming back.

Blimpie
10-01-2007, 10:24 PM
Blimpie, have you heard anything about the start times and/or TV details for the Florida and LSU games? The rest of the schedule is listed as TBA at this point on Yahoo.I have heard that it is a lead pipe cinch that the LSU game will be moved to 3:30PM. Florida is currently slated for 7:00PM to avoid conflict with the fall session at Keeneland; however, my guess is that game will be picked up for national broadcast as well.

Edit: Ooops. I didn't see that Javy had already dropped the good news....that is, unless you had an afternoon planned at Keeneland before the game :cool:

George Foster
10-01-2007, 10:31 PM
I don't know if this has been posted yet but so much for the rumor of game day coming to the UK LSU game. CBS picked up the game to be "there game" on Sunday afternoon. Moving the time to 3:30pm

ESPN/ABC will not do a 2 hour infomercial for a CBS telecast.

Our only hope for "game day" coming to Lexington is for UK to beat South Car. and LSU and for the Florida/UK game to be it.

The odds of that are about....well not so good. I think we have a really good shot against South Car. but not LSU...they are a semi-pro team.

Blimpie
10-04-2007, 04:20 PM
Here is a little something to help us prepare for the big game tonight:


Showdown At A Glance
• Since South Carolina joined the SEC in 1992, these 2 teams have never met as ranked teams.
• Steve Spurrier's 14-0 record against Kentucky (12-0 as Florida coach) equals his best mark against any school. He is also 14-0 against Vanderbilt.
• Spurrier is just 1-4 vs. ranked teams at home and has lost 4 straight such games.
• Gamecocks have seven straight wins against Kentucky; the Wildcats last win in Columbia was in 1999.
• South Carolina defense is 5th in the country in 3rd-down defense allowing teams to convert just 25.7 percent of the time. This week they face a Kentucky offense converting 53.7 percent of the time on 3rd downs (4th best in the nation).
• The Wildcats are averaging 268.6 passing yards per game (28th in nation); South Carolina is allowing just 106.4 pass yards per game (1st in nation).
• This is No. 8 Kentucky's first appearance in the top 10 since finishing the 1977 season 10-1 and No. 6. Even that season had a bit of a taint around it, considering UK was on probation and couldn't even play in a bowl game.
• No. 11 South Carolina has its best ranking since the Lou Holtz-led Gamecocks rose to No. 9 on Oct. 7, 2001.
• Kentucky (5-0) has not been 6-0 since Bear Bryant was prowling the sidelines in 1950 (went 10-0 and won SEC title).
• Kentucky QB Andre' Woodson needs 40 more passing yards to become the third QB in Kentucky history to pass for 7,000 yards (Jared Lorenzen and Tim Couch).
-- Source: ESPN Research

George Foster
10-05-2007, 12:13 AM
Games almost over and the KY offense turned it over to many times. You can't turn it over on the road 3 times in the SEC and win. The cats are over rated, in the top 10 that's for sure. We went into this season just wanting a winning season and another bowl game. We should get that, no problem. It was fun while it lasted. We got 10 days to prepair to get beat by LSU. We have nothing to be ashamed of. Woodson is not a great QB...he's above average, but not a 1st round pick.

WMR
10-05-2007, 03:18 AM
Way, way wayyyyy too many turnovers... as you said, especially if you want to have any chance of winning on the road in the SEC.

Blimpie
10-05-2007, 08:28 AM
Within the columnist ranks at the Lexington Herald-Leader, there appears to be some dissension about Woodson's performance last night. First, from the school of "The O-line didn't give Andre time to perform"....followed by "Andre stunk on ice and cost UK the game." Personally, I fall somewhere in between...


Posted on Fri, Oct. 05, 2007
Heisman voters can't hang this loss on Andre
By John Clay
HERALD-LEADER SPORTS COLUMNIST

It wasn't his fault.

Not all of it, anyway.

Maybe not even most it.

Not that the Heisman voters will see it that way, of course.

They'll lock in on the two lost fumbles, both returned for touchdowns. They'll obsess on the unfortunate interception tossed at the opponents' goal line, nullifying a possible go-ahead score.

They'll figure in the bottom line, that Kentucky lost 38-23 to South Carolina on a nationally televised Thursday night game, and pronounce Andre Woodson not worthy.

It's a shame really, because it wasn't the Kentucky quarterback's fault. Not all of it.

The hunch coming in was that despite UK's 5-0 record and No. 8 ranking, South Carolina's defense would be the best the Cats had seen.

It would pressure. It would get after it. It would cause trouble. The hunch was right.

Woodson hit on 23 of 40 passes for 227 yards and two touchdowns with an interception. But he got hit just as much.

"Andre had a lot of people in his face," Kentucky Coach Rich Brooks, his face red from rubbing, said afterward. "He was under pressure. He got his bell rung."

Carolina blitzed one way and then another. The Gamecocks sent linebackers. They sent defensive backs. They faked soft and then rushed hard.

"They disguised their coverages," said Brooks. "Mixed coverages."

Kentucky helped out.

"We busted a few protections," said the coach. "We turned some people loose."

That's what happened early, right after Kentucky's Trevard Lindley punched the ball loose from Carolina's Weslye Saunders on the two-yard line, the ball bouncing out of the end zone for a touchback. Two plays later, there was Woodson being blind-sided on that same two-yard line, this time Carolina's Eric Norwood picking up the resulting fumble for a touchdown.

"We turned somebody loose," said Brooks. "Didn't block him."

Same thing in the second half, when Woodson threw a lateral to John Conner that landed at the fullback's feet. Again, it was Norwood who scooped and scored, this time motoring 53 yards for the touchdown.

Thing was, Woodson tried the lateral because he was in the aggressive embrace of Gamecock Casper Brinkley. Under pressure, Woodson was trying to make a play. Under pressure, it backfired.

In between was that second-quarter interception, the one that cost the Cats points. Fooled, the quarterback lobbed a pass that Gamecock Casper Munnerlyn picked off at the goal line with no UK receiver in sight.

Chasing Munnerlyn, Woodson found injury to go with the insult. Dicky Lyons Jr.'s knee inadvertently hit Woodson's head. "He was pretty groggy," Brooks said.

The reason for the pick?

"They had someone come off of one of our (receivers)," Brooks said of Munnerlyn. "That guy wasn't covering Jacob (Tamme), but he made the play."

The way Woodson has been playing, 325 passes without an interception until last week, it was an unusual play.

"We're so used to Andre not throwing interceptions," said Brooks.

By now, we're used to Andre throwing touchdowns, and being careful with the ball, and making the play that needed to be made, and leading the talk of college football to the No. 8 ranking in college football.

But then, Andre was used to getting time to throw, too, against decent defenses, not a true SEC defense in a hostile environment on a night when the Cats made too many mistakes to win.

Woodson made his share, missing an open Keenan Burton at the Carolina 25-yard line early in the game, among them.

"Under the circumstances," said Brooks, "I thought he did all right."

He was human.

He is human.

If only those Heisman people will remember that.




Posted on Fri, Oct. 05, 2007
A step back
Gamecocks, turnovers upend UK
By Mark Story
HERALD-LEADER SPORTS COLUMNIST

For five heady weeks, it was New Kentucky.

The Cats won. They made plays under pressure. The Cats won. Their quarterback became a national media darling. The Cats won.

Last night, for the first time since Jimmy Carter slept in the White House, a Kentucky team carried a Top 10 ranking (No. 8) into a game. Giddy Blue fans thought -- with legitimate reason -- this was the team to end UK's embarrassing 0-for-Steve Spurrier streak.

Under the bright spotlight of an ESPN Thursday night game against No. 11 South Carolina, the nation looked in to see whether New Kentucky was the real deal.

What the country saw was a vintage "Same Old Kentucky" kind of night.

Make it South Carolina 38, Kentucky 23. Make it Steve Spurrier 15, Kentucky 0.

"I thought we had a better team than Kentucky," Spurrier said afterwards. "Didn't know if we'd beat them, but I thought we were better."

Make this the hardest one to swallow of all Kentucky's Spurrier futility, including the 1993 debacle when UK intercepted seven Florida passes yet somehow still managed to lose to the Head Ball Coach.

On a night when UK had far more talented offensive playmakers at its disposal than Spurrier, the Cats were done in by an old litany of familiar bugaboos.

Looking more like the shaky sophomore he used to be than the polished quarterback star he's become, Andre Woodson had a horrid night.

On the second Kentucky offensive play of the game, Woodson fumbled after he was sacked. On UK's first offensive drive of the second half, he threw a lateral pass while trying to avoid a sack that fullback John Conner could not pull in.

Both fumbles were returned for touchdowns by South Carolina defensive end Eric Norwood.

It's hard to win big-time SEC games on the road when you give the opponent two free TDs. Said Spurrier: "The two big turnovers were probably the difference in the game."

Another golden UK scoring opportunity misfired when Woodson threw off his back foot and right to South Carolina's Captain Munnerlyn near the Carolina goal line in the first half.

In the stretch when UK went 10-1 over the past two years, Woodson had played well to very well in all 11 games. Maybe he was just due a bad one.

"We definitely made mistakes, (and) me personally," the Kentucky QB said. "That's something we hadn't done all year."

If you assume a quarterback at Kentucky has to be flawless to contend for a Heisman trophy, last night was a major blow.

Woodson completed 23 of 40 passes for 227 yards, but he accounted for three turnovers.

So despite outgaining South Carolina, the high-powered UK offense that had scored 40 points or more in all five of its prior games managed a scant two touchdowns.

Even a game Kentucky defense that played well much of the night had numerous failings on third-and-long.

There was a lot lost for the Cats in Columbia.

"Today we missed a great opportunity," said UK coach Rich Brooks.

Next week's showdown in Commonwealth Stadium with No. 1 LSU loses some of its luster.

Long-term, if you assume that a 6-2 conference record gives you a chance to claim the SEC East, last night means that UK now has only one loss left among games against LSU, Florida, at Georgia and Tennessee.

Still, if someone had told you before the season kicked off that UK would be 5-1 after six games and would have spent a good three weeks as the season's feel-good college football story in the national media, you'd have taken that in the proverbial heartbeat.

One bad night at a bad time does not mean Kentucky isn't a quality football team capable of doing big things in 2007.

The unexpected re-appearance of "Same Old Kentucky" last night does mean this:

Added to his collection of 73-7 and 65-0 blowouts from his Florida days, Spurrier has now beaten the Kentucky team that still has a viable chance to be the best UK football squad in the past 30 years.

"Steve Superior" has proven one thing beyond all doubt.

He's a Cat owner.

joshnky
10-05-2007, 12:30 PM
It is the line's responsibility to protect the QB but its the QBs responsibility to protect the ball. The lateral was a horrendous mistake for a QB with Woodson's ability and the INT was equally costly. Woodson is a great QB and will be a first round draft pick but barring a dominating performance against LSU his Heisman campaign is done.

WVRed
10-05-2007, 05:13 PM
It is the line's responsibility to protect the QB but its the QBs responsibility to protect the ball. The lateral was a horrendous mistake for a QB with Woodson's ability and the INT was equally costly. Woodson is a great QB and will be a first round draft pick but barring a dominating performance against LSU his Heisman campaign is done.

With that being said, the Heisman is probably anybodys guess right now. Mine is on Booty if USC goes undefeated, but if you think about it, nobody really sticks out. McFadden and Brohm were on track for it, but both are having sub-par seasons.

Chip R
10-05-2007, 05:15 PM
With that being said, the Heisman is probably anybodys guess right now. Mine is on Booty if USC goes undefeated, but if you think about it, nobody really sticks out. McFadden and Brohm were on track for it, but both are having sub-par seasons.


Maybe that kid from Hawaii is the odds on favorite now.

jmac
10-05-2007, 09:18 PM
It was fun while it lasted. We got 10 days to prepair to get beat by LSU. We have nothing to be ashamed of. Woodson is not a great QB...he's above average, but not a 1st round pick.

Nothing against you personally george but this kind of sentiment is why I dont read alot of messageboards after losses.
Yes, it has been fun for me and it still is fun.This team is a very good team that had a very bad game.Between the 20's we had no problem for a huge portion of game.At one time in third quarter , the total yards was like 340-170 in our favor. of course settling for 3's in the redszone and turnovers cost us. Even Little's fumble at the 50 yard line that cost us great field position.
Personally I am not thinking of getting "beat by LSU".
Can we win ? Yep !
Will we ? Dont know. It will be a hard task.
LSU is not last years LSU and while still capable of beating us are by no means unbeatable.
This team is still a special team who can have a special season. I know hearing Burton talk about last week how good it was to hear people talking about them on campus. Well...I just hope they dont listen to the talk of "getting beat by LSU" and play the way they are capable.
I told someone this week, KY can play with anyone in the SEC but I said we could also lose to Georgia if we arent on our game.Thats the way this league is. Again , GF, not directed alll at you because I have read alot of comments like that on the UK messageboards.
I stated earlier in week, KY may not be technically a top 10 team but they are very capable of playing with any of the teams that are.
Last night, we got beat.

jmac
10-05-2007, 11:43 PM
Actually the third quarter last night was UK 160 to -15 in total yards yet we was outscored 7-3. That sums up the "between the 20's" quote I made. Too many mistakes.

OnBaseMachine
10-05-2007, 11:47 PM
With that being said, the Heisman is probably anybodys guess right now. Mine is on Booty if USC goes undefeated, but if you think about it, nobody really sticks out. McFadden and Brohm were on track for it, but both are having sub-par seasons.

There is no way Booty wins it IMO. He's a good QB but not a superstar...

jmac
10-06-2007, 01:27 AM
There is no way Booty wins it IMO. He's a good QB but not a superstar...

Booty could win it if USC goes undefeated. Many times the award doesnt seem to go to the super star athlete.

joshnky
10-06-2007, 01:28 AM
Booty could win it if USC goes undefeated. Many times the award doesnt seem to go to the super star athlete.

Eric Crouch and Jason White say hello.

Cedric
10-06-2007, 02:45 AM
DeSean Jackson should win it, IMO. The best player in the nation and he produces like it. If not Jackson I would vote for McFadden right now.

WVRed
10-06-2007, 10:41 PM
There is no way Booty wins it IMO. He's a good QB but not a superstar...

Don't have to be a superstar to win it. See Troy Smith last year.

OnBaseMachine
10-06-2007, 11:14 PM
Don't have to be a superstar to win it. See Troy Smith last year.

Booty is not Heisman material. He's showing that tonight against Stanford. I'm ready to replace him with Mark Sanchez, who is superstar material.

Cedric
10-07-2007, 02:48 AM
Don't have to be a superstar to win it. See Troy Smith last year.

Yea. Troy Smith wasn't a superstar? Lose one game after 51 days off and suddenly you become chopped liver.

CMP% 65.6
Yds 2750
30 tds and 6 int on an undefeated team at the time of voting.

That is a superstar. I don't understand why people think voting should be based on NFL potential or stupid stuff like that. Those numbers are awesome for a big conference player.

guttle11
10-07-2007, 03:46 AM
Yea. Troy Smith wasn't a superstar? Lose one game after 51 days off and suddenly you become chopped liver.

CMP% 65.6
Yds 2750
30 tds and 6 int on an undefeated team at the time of voting.

That is a superstar. I don't understand why people think voting should be based on NFL potential or stupid stuff like that. Those numbers are awesome for a big conference player.

Add in a 25-3 record, two Big Ten titles, and two BCS bowl appearances (1-1).

WVRed
10-07-2007, 01:37 PM
Yea. Troy Smith wasn't a superstar? Lose one game after 51 days off and suddenly you become chopped liver.

CMP% 65.6
Yds 2750
30 tds and 6 int on an undefeated team at the time of voting.

That is a superstar. I don't understand why people think voting should be based on NFL potential or stupid stuff like that. Those numbers are awesome for a big conference player.

Or Eric Crouch or Jason White, as josh said.

Sad thing is, the Heisman is still wide open to the point that Andre Woodson is still likely in the running. If USC would have finished undefeated(and even if they win out), assuming no QB change is made, Booty still could be in contention, just depends on if USC wins out, that is how wide open the Heisman is.

WMR
10-07-2007, 01:42 PM
WV, how is that sad?!?

It shouldn't matter to us 'how worthy' of such national exposure Andre' Woodson is... him merely making the trip to NYC would be HUGE for our program, esp. in regards to recruiting.

Blimpie
10-07-2007, 07:45 PM
Yea. Troy Smith wasn't a superstar? Lose one game after 51 days off and suddenly you become chopped liver.

CMP% 65.6
Yds 2750
30 tds and 6 int on an undefeated team at the time of voting.

That is a superstar. I don't understand why people think voting should be based on NFL potential or stupid stuff like that. Those numbers are awesome for a big conference player.After nine months, can we please cease with the "OSU played with 51 days off" mantra? The better team one the game that night. Period.

Secondly, Woodson is still on pace to eclipse all of those gaudy passing stats this year and NOBODY thinks he still has a chance the Heisman after losing a single tough road game in Columbia...in the biggest of big conferences, the SEC.

Life is simply unfair, we had all better get used to it.

Cedric
10-07-2007, 09:35 PM
After nine months, can we please cease with the "OSU played with 51 days off" mantra? The better team one the game that night. Period.

Secondly, Woodson is still on pace to eclipse all of those gaudy passing stats this year and NOBODY thinks he still has a chance the Heisman after losing a single tough road game in Columbia...in the biggest of big conferences, the SEC.

Life is simply unfair, we had all better get used to it.

They weren't the better team, you are right. Because of a ridiculis 51 day layoff and Tressel having too much trust in a 20 lb overweight, unprepared Qb. It's no secret that Troy Smith 25 step dropped us out of the game. Not even mentioning our best player not playing a down.

One game doesn't prove everything.

KronoRed
10-07-2007, 10:42 PM
One game doesn't prove everything.

Neither does a boatload of excuses. ;)

Thought this thread was about Kentucky football for 2007, not a game that was played 10 months ago.

George Foster
10-07-2007, 11:41 PM
After nine months, can we please cease with the "OSU played with 51 days off" mantra? The better team one the game that night. Period.

Secondly, Woodson is still on pace to eclipse all of those gaudy passing stats this year and NOBODY thinks he still has a chance the Heisman after losing a single tough road game in Columbia...in the biggest of big conferences, the SEC.

Life is simply unfair, we had all better get used to it.

Woodson would have to beat LSU, to get back in the hunt for the Heisman, IMO.

Blimpie
10-08-2007, 04:18 PM
Woodson would have to beat LSU, to get back in the hunt for the Heisman, IMO.Agreed. If the season ended right now, he would have to be on the outside looking in.

Sea Ray
10-08-2007, 05:02 PM
Woodson would have to beat LSU, to get back in the hunt for the Heisman, IMO.

This is the week for UK to open some eyes. LSU is coming off a huge emotional win and UK will be fired up to get a crack at the #1 team in the nation at home. They've given LSU fits before. I look for a game that stays close into the 4th qtr.

UK has a tough road to hoe. They still have 4 ranked teams remaining on their schedule. I bet that's as tough as anybody's from here on out. I doubt Woodson will look very good coming out of all that but if he does shine then he deserves the Heisman.

George Foster
10-08-2007, 10:01 PM
This is the week for UK to open some eyes. LSU is coming off a huge emotional win and UK will be fired up to get a crack at the #1 team in the nation at home. They've given LSU fits before. I look for a game that stays close into the 4th qtr.

UK has a tough road to hoe. They still have 4 ranked teams remaining on their schedule. I bet that's as tough as anybody's from here on out. I doubt Woodson will look very good coming out of all that but if he does shine then he deserves the Heisman.

Coming in to the season, Kentucky had the hardest schedule in the country. 7 teams that made it to a bowl last year, and 7 pre-season top 25 teams. LSU killed us last year like 52-0. I don't know the exact score, but it was our worse loss of the year.

I just looked it up...it was 49-0....I was close!

KronoRed
10-13-2007, 11:53 PM
Hooray for the state of Kentucky :clap:

BuckeyeRedleg
10-14-2007, 01:05 AM
Great game by UK. Helluva team.

I will be pulling for them from here on out. Great QB. Kind of reminds me of Troy Smith, but taller.

He deserves the Heisman at this point.

LoganBuck
10-14-2007, 01:22 AM
Great game by UK. Helluva team.

I will be pulling for them from here on out. Great QB. Kind of reminds me of Troy Smith, but taller.

He deserves the Heisman at this point.

True

If Woodson performs well next week against Florida, you have to make him the front runner, no doubt pick, to win it.

Danny Serafini
10-14-2007, 02:38 AM
As a Buckeye fan I just want to say THANK YOU KENTUCKY!!!!

As wacky as it sounds, I do think Woodson may be the front runner for the Heisman at this point. Nobody has stepped up to take the lead, after this week's upset he's got as good a shot as anyone.

jmac
10-14-2007, 05:20 PM
EJ Fields commited to the Cats last night after the win.
He is projected to be another Kennan Burton type with super star potential. Nice catch for cats.
Also Aaron Boyd "may" choose this week. The teams after Boyd are :
ARK,FLA,UofL,LSU,Michigan,tenn and UK.
I am hoping UK can land this kid to go with fields and Ulinski.
Thought I would throw this in since it is a UK thread.

Chip R
10-14-2007, 05:22 PM
EJ Fields commited to the Cats last night after the win.
He is projected to be another Kennan Burton type with super star potential. Nice catch for cats.
Also Aaron Boyd "may" choose this week. The teams after Boyd are :
ARK,FLA,UofL,LSU,Michigan,tenn and UK.
I am hoping UK can land this kid to go with fields and Ulinski.
Thought I would throw this in since it is a UK thread.


Good game to have recruits attend. :)

macro
10-15-2007, 12:23 AM
By the way, if anyone is wondering what happened to their posts in this thread, they were split out into game threads for LSU-UK and Cal-Oregon St, and also into the BCS thread.

macro
10-20-2007, 03:25 AM
As much as it disappoints me to say this, I look for Florida to roll all over Kentucky today. Things are aligned perfectly for that to happen. They're coming off two consecutive losses, have had two weeks to rest up and prepare, and are one of the very best teams in the nation, as indicated by their taking LSU down to the wire in Baton Rouge.

Kentucky, on the other hand, will have a very hard time coming back down to earth after the peak of their season last weekend. On any random Saturday, this would be a close game. But given the circumstances, Florida will take this one big.

WMR
10-20-2007, 03:52 AM
It's all going to come down to UK's defense finding a way to stop Tebow from running wild in Commonwealth. If they could hold him under 100 yards, I'd feel very good about their chances of winning the game. Easier said than done, however.

WMR
10-20-2007, 08:26 AM
College GameDay is being held in Lexington today.

Really nice shot of the big library behind the GameDay crew.

WVRed
10-20-2007, 09:35 AM
As much as it disappoints me to say this, I look for Florida to roll all over Kentucky today. Things are aligned perfectly for that to happen. They're coming off two consecutive losses, have had two weeks to rest up and prepare, and are one of the very best teams in the nation, as indicated by their taking LSU down to the wire in Baton Rouge.

Kentucky, on the other hand, will have a very hard time coming back down to earth after the peak of their season last weekend. On any random Saturday, this would be a close game. But given the circumstances, Florida will take this one big.

Sadly, I agree, but I also predicted they would lose to LSU. The emotion from last weeks win will still be in effect, but Florida could also take the opposite extreme. I doubt that happens, but it will be a fun matchup.

Shame I have to work:(.

jmac
10-20-2007, 11:39 AM
I think the style of play worries me more than anything. The scrambling QB is what has given the cats so much trouble over the last couple of years.
Go Cats !

Gainesville Red
10-20-2007, 12:15 PM
I'm not sure if it's going to be Kentucky's fault, I just think this is the way the college football season works this year.

LSU beats Florida. Kentucky beats LSU. Florida beats Kentucky.

Book it.


Also, I've purchased a new gameday shirt. Obviously the old one was broken.

jmac
10-20-2007, 01:39 PM
I'm not sure if it's going to be Kentucky's fault, I just think this is the way the college football season works this year.

LSU beats Florida. Kentucky beats LSU. Florida beats Kentucky.

Book it.


Also, I've purchased a new gameday shirt. Obviously the old one was broken.

In other words, a repeat of LSU beats SC,SC beats UK, UK beats LSU.

WMR
10-20-2007, 05:12 PM
God, that's pathetic.

Start in chippy FG range and give up two consecutive sacks that push the attempt to a 48 yarder that you miss.

That's a great recipe to lose to Florida. :rant:

Matt700wlw
10-20-2007, 05:15 PM
Oh my

joshnky
10-20-2007, 05:50 PM
Woodson is a great QB but I've seen him miss a lot of down field passes both in this game and others this season. UK would have 21 points already with a little accuracy from Woodson. I know I'm biased but I wonder how much of his greatness is based on a system oriented towards short passes and screens.

WMR
10-20-2007, 05:51 PM
Woodson is a great QB but I've seen him miss a lot of down field passes both in this game and others this season. UK would have 21 points already with a little accuracy from Woodson. I know I'm biased but I wonder how much of his greatness is based on a system oriented towards short passes and screens.

He got the ball downfield pretty well versus Louisville. ;)

joshnky
10-20-2007, 06:02 PM
He got the ball downfield pretty well versus Louisville. ;)

I think I could throw the ball downfield against Louisville.

WMR
10-20-2007, 06:05 PM
I think I could throw the ball downfield against Louisville.

:laugh:

Good point.

Have you circled the first Louisville bball game on your calendar yet?

Is Louisville's first game versus my alma mater Georgetown College? They made you guys sweat a little bit last year, didn't they? :D

WMR
10-20-2007, 06:07 PM
Missing out on those points earlier in the first half when they took those two sacks really really REALLY hurts.

jmac
10-20-2007, 07:49 PM
Woodson is a great QB but I've seen him miss a lot of down field passes both in this game and others this season. UK would have 21 points already with a little accuracy from Woodson. I know I'm biased but I wonder how much of his greatness is based on a system oriented towards short passes and screens.

While Woodson hasnt been as accurate as last year I have stated before today, your assessment of him is the same some scouts are asking of Brohm. Also Ky goes down the field quite a bit now so the his numbers arent more inflated than many qb's as far as screens etc.

jmac
10-20-2007, 07:54 PM
Missing out on those points earlier in the first half when they took those two sacks really really REALLY hurts.

Exactly, instead of going toe to toe late in game, we are 2 td's down and the way we play the run,that means trouble.

WMR
10-20-2007, 08:40 PM
Tough loss. Actually held Tebow's running game in check... hard to predict he would have thrown the ball like he did today.

Oh well... South Carolina lost to Vanderbilt...

I could easily see Georgia beating Florida next week.

jmac
10-20-2007, 11:09 PM
Tough loss. Actually held Tebow's running game in check... hard to predict he would have thrown the ball like he did today.

Oh well... South Carolina lost to Vanderbilt...

I could easily see Georgia beating Florida next week.
They will have to play good defensively because I cant see them scoring against them like we did.

WVRed
10-21-2007, 12:29 AM
Percy Harvin is the real deal.

I know its a moot point now, but did anybody see Corso and Herbstreit predict that Kentucky would be the top ten team that would go down this week? They were almost booed out of the state.

I will definitely be pulling for Georgia next week.

Blimpie
10-21-2007, 01:25 PM
Percy Harvin is the real deal.

I know its a moot point now, but did anybody see Corso and Herbstreit predict that Kentucky would be the top ten team that would go down this week? They were almost booed out of the state.

I will definitely be pulling for Georgia next week.There is speed...and there is Harvin's speed.

His rushing touchdown yesterday was mind blowing. It was a kind of toss sweep that he ran about 30 yards in heavy traffic. I am not sure that a UK player even got a finger on his jersey.

It was not like the defense was getting blocked out of the way--they just could not get the right angles on him.

WMR
10-21-2007, 02:39 PM
Speaking of speed, however, the future is very bright for our track-star/running back freshman, #41, whose name escapes me at the moment.

jmac
10-21-2007, 03:32 PM
Speaking of speed, however, the future is very bright for our track-star/running back freshman, #41, whose name escapes me at the moment.

Derrick Locke. Put him with Alphonso Smith and Tony Dixon and UK should be set in 08 as far as ground game.

Blimpie
10-21-2007, 06:44 PM
...and it sounds like Locke will get the start at tailback against MSU for homecoming. He has all but passed Alphonso Smith for #3 on the depth chart...

Sounds like Little and Dixon are both extremely doubtful for Saturday.

jmac
10-21-2007, 07:08 PM
...and it sounds like Locke will get the start at tailback against MSU for homecoming. He has all but passed Alphonso Smith for #3 on the depth chart...

Sounds like Little and Dixon are both extremely doubtful for Saturday.

Brooks said yesterday after game that Little definitely would not play. Following Miss State is the bye week and then maybe get him back after that.

macro
10-22-2007, 01:12 AM
Questions:

Who schedules the teams' conference games in the SEC? Does the league do it or do the teams work it out amongst themselves?

Each team in a division plays the other five teams every year and rotates sites, but are the games against the other division rotated on some sort of pattern, as well?

I'm going to sound like a whiner with this comment, but someone did UK no favors with the scheduling this year. There is no easy way to play an SEC football schedule, but getting South Carolina, LSU, and Florida consecutively was brutal. Furthermore, they got Florida off a bye week, and even though the schedule-maker had no way of knowing it at the time, the fact that they got Florida coming off two straight losses made them especially tough. I would think that the odds of Florida losing three straight would have been slim regardless of who or where they teed it up yesterday.

Cedric
10-22-2007, 01:18 AM
Questions:

Who schedules the teams' conference games in the SEC? Does the league do it or do the teams work it out amongst themselves?

Each team in a division plays the other five teams every year and rotates sites, but are the games against the other division rotated on some sort of pattern, as well?

I'm going to sound like a whiner with this comment, but someone did UK no favors with the scheduling this year. There is no easy way to play an SEC football schedule, but getting South Carolina, LSU, and Florida consecutively was brutal. Furthermore, they got Florida off a bye week, and even though the schedule-maker had no way of knowing it at the time, the fact that they got Florida coming off two straight losses made them especially tough. I would think that the odds of Florida losing three straight would have been slim regardless of who or where they teed it up yesterday.

It happens all over the country. Ohio State goes from somewhat soft to playing their four toughest opponents in a row.

SandyD
10-22-2007, 01:28 AM
It's rotated. Each SEC team plays three teams from the "other division." Each team can select one team from the "other division" to play every year. Then the remaining teams are on a rotation.

LSU plays Fla every year.
I think maybe Tenn and Ala play every year
The remaining games are rotated 2 years in a row/ home and home.

LSU and KY played 06-07. Won't play again (reg season) for a while.

dabvu2498
10-22-2007, 10:05 AM
It's rotated. Each SEC team plays three teams from the "other division." Each team can select one team from the "other division" to play every year. Then the remaining teams are on a rotation.

LSU plays Fla every year.
I think maybe Tenn and Ala play every year
The remaining games are rotated 2 years in a row/ home and home.

LSU and KY played 06-07. Won't play again (reg season) for a while.

Each SEC team is paired up with one of the opposite division teams. This was done to preserve old rivalries such as UT-Bama and Auburn-UGa.

I may be wrong, but I believe this is how they line em up:
UT-Bama
Auburn-UGa
LSU-UF
Vandy-Ole Miss
UK-Miss St.
Arky-USC

Then the other "crossover" games rotate.

SandyD
10-22-2007, 09:29 PM
I wasn't sure they were all paired.

I knew UT-Bama and LSU-FLa were "old rivals". Forgot about UGa/Aub.

but Vandy/Ole Miss and UK Miss State seem kind of random.

Of course Ark and So Car are the "newcomers."

Blimpie
10-23-2007, 12:13 AM
From the West, UK has LSU (and normally Mississippi State) every year. The rotating West teams (Auburn, Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi) usually run in 2-4 year cycles.

SandyD
10-23-2007, 01:00 AM
LSU and UK played 2001-2002, 2006-2007, next game 2011


Before 2003, each team had 2 non-division permanent games. I think before that LSU and UK indeed played every year ... going a good ways back, I believe.


From the SEC website

The 2006 season will mark the third season of the 5-1-2 schedule format. The 5-1-2 format allows for each school to play all five of its division opponents along with one permanent and two rotating non-division opponents each year. It ensures an institution will play every conference member four times during a 10-year period and that each team will make two visits to every SEC stadium during the 10-year period.

The old format used was based on a 5-2-1 schedule format. Schools played all five of its divisional opponents along with two permanent and one rotating non-division opponent each year.

http://www.secsports.com/index.php?s=&change_well_id=2&url_article_id=317

macro
10-23-2007, 02:45 AM
Thanks for all the insights. Still have one question: Who schedules the actual dates? The schools involved? If so, why would UK draw up such a schedule for this year's team?

KronoRed
10-23-2007, 03:07 AM
The Florida game was moved this year for the first time since 91, maybe there was no other place to have it.

dabvu2498
10-23-2007, 09:22 AM
Thanks for all the insights. Still have one question: Who schedules the actual dates? The schools involved? If so, why would UK draw up such a schedule for this year's team?

to my knowledge, the AD's do it, with some input from the league. UK has traditionally tried to schedule alot of home games in October to coincide with Keeneland's fall meet.

Blimpie
10-23-2007, 04:25 PM
The Florida game was moved this year for the first time since 91, maybe there was no other place to have it.I think that also had something to do with the fact that the Louisville game versus UK was moved from the opening date to the third game.

Given the outcome of this year's Louisville game, I do not see UK ever giving Louisville back that opening date.

WMR
10-23-2007, 07:14 PM
I think that also had something to do with the fact that the Louisville game versus UK was moved from the opening date to the third game.

Given the outcome of this year's Louisville game, I do not see UK ever giving Louisville back that opening date.

I heard that it rotates: when the game is at Louisville, it will be the opening game of the year... when it is at Commonwealth, it will be later on... I thought that was one of the compromises they reached to agree to continue playing each other.

stevekun
10-23-2007, 07:32 PM
UK just can't beat UL without a warm up game against Akron or whoever...or at least thats what they want everyone to think

WMR
10-23-2007, 07:36 PM
UK just can't beat UL without a warm up game against Akron or whoever...or at least thats what they want everyone to think

Still trolling for UK fans, huh? :laugh:

jmac
10-25-2007, 10:46 PM
UK just can't beat UL without a warm up game against Akron or whoever...or at least thats what they want everyone to think

This year two high powerd offensive teams with 2-0 records going at it, showcasing two of nation's top QB's. There was plenty of interest in this game as third game.Probably more than if it had been opener.
Everyone has a right to want to play the game whenever they want if game 1 or game 3 or game 8.

jmac
10-25-2007, 10:48 PM
I heard that it rotates: when the game is at Louisville, it will be the opening game of the year... when it is at Commonwealth, it will be later on... I thought that was one of the compromises they reached to agree to continue playing each other.

You are correct.

George Foster
10-26-2007, 10:23 PM
to my knowledge, the AD's do it, with some input from the league. UK has traditionally tried to schedule alot of home games in October to coincide with Keeneland's fall meet.


yes and no. Keenland hates it. The Florida game was picked up for a day game...bad for the track, and the MSU game is at 12:30, also bad for the track. Back before we were on TV alot, all the October games were night games.

Matt700wlw
10-27-2007, 02:50 PM
UK losing to Miss State 14-7, after UK misses a FG....with less than 2 minutes remaining in the first half

Matt700wlw
10-27-2007, 04:17 PM
Kentucky looking more like Kentucky.

Getting smoked....31-14 in the 4th

GoReds33
10-27-2007, 04:42 PM
Kentucky looking more like Kentucky.

Getting smoked....31-14 in the 4thDoesn't look like they will be able to pull this one off. I hope they do though.

OnBaseMachine
10-27-2007, 04:43 PM
Woodson threw 3 interceptions today. That should push him way down on the Heisman list.

kyred14
10-27-2007, 05:03 PM
After all these years, I should know better. I was tricked again. What a sad, sad, pathetic performance. I can certinely BELIEVE that. :rolleyes:

jmac
10-27-2007, 05:26 PM
Kentucky looking more like Kentucky.


:rolleyes:

Great attitude you have there !

jmac
10-27-2007, 05:41 PM
Kentucky lost today folks. Did the season go down the tubes ?No,unless you are a bandwagon fan in which case :wave:

Ky obviously had problems defensively in first half.Why it takes them till halftime to always seem to make adjustments, I do not know !
However injuries to the offense made a "huge" difference. Not an excuse but still at same time reality.
Burton,Little,Dixon,and today losing Locke hurt us greatly on offense. We played a huge portion with our 5th string RB in (Allen).
He played well but you could see the inexperience on the 4th and 2 when he ran into Woodson. Ford also got alot of minutes today and he had a missed read on a catchable ball. These are guys that havent played much all season but today did.
That being said, Woodson had another game of several passes that were too far over/under threw.
Basically the defense today(except Micah Johnson) was there but yet in the first half, they were toasted which was very disheartening. That put UK in a big hole.
I really think the offense even with the injuries would have done alright if not for the big hole put in.Obviously Woodson was off terribly and we didnt have the big playmakers in there to pull a come from behind.

KronoRed
10-27-2007, 05:50 PM
:rolleyes:

Great attitude you have there !

He's a Bengal fan, pity him ;)

joshnky
10-27-2007, 06:22 PM
Kentucky lost today folks. Did the season go down the tubes ?No,unless you are a bandwagon fan in which case :wave:

Hope you enjoy the Music City Bowl. ;)

jmac
10-27-2007, 06:56 PM
Hope you enjoy the Music City Bowl. ;)

KY was forecasted by some with 3 losses to still be in contention for Outback Bowl. If they get their injured back in 2 weeks , Ky can still win their remaining games. Whether they will or not, I do not know.
To you Mr. C ardinal fan....I have two words: Steve Kragthorpe :D

GoReds33
10-27-2007, 07:05 PM
Hope you enjoy the Music City Bowl. ;)Nah, if UC keeps losing they might have that one.:)

Chip R
10-27-2007, 07:26 PM
KY was forecasted by some with 3 losses to still be in contention for Outback Bowl. If they get their injured back in 2 weeks , Ky can still win their remaining games. Whether they will or not, I do not know.
To you Mr. C ardinal fan....I have two words: Steve Kragthorpe :D


To paraphrase Spurrier, you can't spell Outback without UK. ;)

jmac
10-27-2007, 08:13 PM
If they get their injured back in 2 weeks , Ky can still win their remaining games.

Well the georgia game suddenly looks alot tougher.

WMR
10-27-2007, 09:40 PM
To paraphrase Spurrier, you can't spell Outback without UK. ;)

That is funny!! :laugh:

WMR
10-27-2007, 09:42 PM
Ooh man this game was ugly! Does this absolutely kill Woodson's Heisman hopes? At the very least, they've got to be on life support...

this was sort of the "perfect storm" to create a bad UK performance... lots of key injuries and the third game in a 3 week stretch that saw your team play LSU AND Florida. That's some tough sledding.

Thank goodness they've got an off-week coming up... this is their first week without a game the entire season, IIRC.

No team in the country needs a week off to "lick their wounds" more than Kentucky.

WMR
10-27-2007, 09:56 PM
I love seeing South Carolina getting their butts kicked by Tennessee.

WMR
10-27-2007, 10:01 PM
Tough loss. Actually held Tebow's running game in check... hard to predict he would have thrown the ball like he did today.

Oh well... South Carolina lost to Vanderbilt...

I could easily see Georgia beating Florida next week.

:D

This has all definitely helped Matt Ryan's Heisman chances...

Chip R
10-27-2007, 11:07 PM
I love seeing South Carolina getting their butts kicked by Tennessee.


That's who the original Spurrier quote was about. He was making fun of UT for never getting to the really big time bowls and always having to settle for the likes of the Outback Bowl. He said, "You can't spell Outback without UT."

It's a good bowl, though, and a team like UK should be ecstatic to play there.

WMR
10-27-2007, 11:10 PM
That's who the original Spurrier quote was about. He was making fun of UT for never getting to the really big time bowls and always having to settle for the likes of the Outback Bowl. He said, "You can't spell Outback without UT."

It's a good bowl, though, and a team like UK should be ecstatic to play there.

Hehe, Chip, to be perfectly honest: Any bowl is fine by me. Considering last year we won our first bowl in 30 years, I'm not going to start getting picky just yet!! :lol:

WMR
10-27-2007, 11:12 PM
Spurrier is just an ass. But that's his modus operandi.

jmac
10-27-2007, 11:53 PM
I love seeing South Carolina getting their butts kicked by Tennessee.

Their kicking back.

KronoRed
10-28-2007, 02:33 AM
Their kicking back.

And it's a kick that leads to their defeat

Blimpie
10-28-2007, 01:06 PM
That's who the original Spurrier quote was about. He was making fun of UT for never getting to the really big time bowls and always having to settle for the likes of the Outback Bowl. He said, "You can't spell Outback without UT."

It's a good bowl, though, and a team like UK should be ecstatic to play there.I remember that the original quote was about Tennessee, but I believe that Spurrier was referring to the Citrus Bowl at the time he said it....Wasn't he?

jmac
10-28-2007, 02:35 PM
And it's a kick that leads to their defeat

Ah, da agaony of da-feet !

Sea Ray
10-28-2007, 06:38 PM
KY was forecasted by some with 3 losses to still be in contention for Outback Bowl.

The Outback Bowl is a possibility but a very slim one at that. Generally the #3 SEC team goes to the Outback and Ky will be lucky to finish in the top 3 of the SEC East. UK has only had two road games all year and they have two coming up after the bye. This is the wrong year to try to project SEC games but chances are UK will not run the table on those teams. A team that loses to Miss St at home doesn't deserve a New Year's Day Bowl.

Chip R
10-28-2007, 07:40 PM
I remember that the original quote was about Tennessee, but I believe that Spurrier was referring to the Citrus Bowl at the time he said it....Wasn't he?


You might be right.

jmac
10-28-2007, 11:03 PM
The Outback Bowl is a possibility but a very slim one at that. Generally the #3 SEC team goes to the Outback and Ky will be lucky to finish in the top 3 of the SEC East. UK has only had two road games all year and they have two coming up after the bye. This is the wrong year to try to project SEC games but chances are UK will not run the table on those teams. A team that loses to Miss St at home doesn't deserve a New Year's Day Bowl.

If you go by "deserving", then there probably wont be enough teams that actually do, the way the season is going.

macro
10-29-2007, 01:12 AM
College sports poll voters absolutely kill me. Two weeks ago, UK, about the 20th best team in the nation, was voted #8. This week, UK, about the 20th best team in the nation, is completely knocked out of the top 25.

They put entirely too much stock on overall W-L record and what the team did in their immediately previous game.

It's not impossible for UK to end up 6-6. Vanderbilt won at SC, they've got to go to Georgia, and then host Tennessee, who they haven't beaten since the 1800s. I say they'll get by Vandy and lost at Georgia and enter the Tennessee game 7-4. Beyond that, it's too early to prognosticate.

jmac
10-29-2007, 01:31 AM
College sports poll voters absolutely kill me. Two weeks ago, UK, about the 20th best team in the nation, was voted #8. This week, UK, about the 20th best team in the nation, is completely knocked out of the top 25.

They put entirely too much stock on overall W-L record and what the team did in their immediately previous game.

It's not impossible for UK to end up 6-6. Vanderbilt won at SC, they've got to go to Georgia, and then host Tennessee, who they haven't beaten since the 1800s. I say they'll get by Vandy and lost at Georgia and enter the Tennessee game 7-4. Beyond that, it's too early to prognosticate.

With Burton-Little-Dixon-locke-Johnson-McClinton back for the stretch run , I doubt we will see the same performance we seen saturday. That being said, we could still see more losses. Right now, I agree on beating Vandy and probably dropping the Georgia game. I think the guys will beat Tennesse in the final home game and probably finish 8-4.
8-4 after last season would be continuing in right direction(though the miss st game will hurt)

KronoRed
10-29-2007, 01:34 AM
I remember that the original quote was about Tennessee, but I believe that Spurrier was referring to the Citrus Bowl at the time he said it....Wasn't he?

Indeed it was.

It doesn't really work with Capital One Bowl ;)

Sea Ray
10-29-2007, 10:56 AM
I think the guys will beat Tennesse in the final home game and probably finish 8-4.
8-4 after last season would be continuing in right direction(though the miss st game will hurt)

I have to think they'll take a step back next year. They'll lose a lot of offense and the schedule won't be as favorable. Having home games with Louisville, FL, LSU and UT sure is nice.

joshnky
10-29-2007, 01:05 PM
College sports poll voters absolutely kill me. Two weeks ago, UK, about the 20th best team in the nation, was voted #8. This week, UK, about the 20th best team in the nation, is completely knocked out of the top 25.

I agree with you to a certain extent but that loss to MissSt was pretty ugly and the Cats are still ranked in the coaches poll. I'd compare their fall from grace to that of Cal. UK's win at home against LSU is very similar in magnitude to Cal beating Oregon on the road; however, both teams have struggled. Cal lost to a good Arizona St team, a mediocre Oregon St. and a confusing UCLA team while UK lost to a good Florida team, a mediocre SC, and a bad MissSt team. Both seem very similar to me in resume and talent but both dropped out of the poll. While both teams can certainly beat half the teams in the top 25 they've also lost to teams outside of the top 25.

In defense of the voters, this topsy-turvy season is very difficult to judge and few teams have avoided "let-downs" and underacheiving.

jmac
10-29-2007, 01:22 PM
I have to think they'll take a step back next year. They'll lose a lot of offense and the schedule won't be as favorable. Having home games with Louisville, FL, LSU and UT sure is nice.

I tend to agree you with here. LSU does go off the schedule which will help.
I think from all indications, the front runner for QB is already Curtis Pulley and apparently Sanders thinks he can run the offense in good fashion. KY will probably change to more of a running QB scheme to take advantage of Pulley QB, Conner FB and rotating Locke/Dixon/Smith.
I dont think KY will be a Fla/LSU type elite as far as every year but it would be nice to be a 6-7 win team every year and then around every three-four years compete for 8-10 wins. Next season will be one of those 6 win goals IMO.
2008 schedule includes louisville non-conference plus 3 "winnables"
Arkansas Vandy Georgia South Carolina all at home.
Road are : Tennessee Miss State Bama
Fla is road so you can forget that one.

macro
10-29-2007, 02:52 PM
...and a bad MissSt team...

I'm not convinced that they're all that bad. They're 5-4, with their four losses coming to LSU, South Carolina, Tennessee, and West Virginia. All four of those teams are ranked. Their schedule is brutal, with Alabama (another ranked team) coming up next and then a trip to Arkansas. That being said, they shouldn't have come into Lexington and won the way they did. I just think the pollsters overreact both ways.

macro
11-04-2007, 05:53 PM
College sports poll voters absolutely kill me. Two weeks ago, UK, about the 20th best team in the nation, was voted #8. This week, UK, about the 20th best team in the nation, is completely knocked out of the top 25.

They put entirely too much stock on overall W-L record and what the team did in their immediately previous game.

...and this week they re-enter all the polls without even setting foot on the field.

:laugh:

As a UK fan, I'm now pulling for LSU to win out and end the season as national champs with only one loss. That would mean that their one loss would have come at Kentucky. It would at least give the team something to hang its hats on.

jmac
11-04-2007, 07:24 PM
...and this week they re-enter all the polls without even setting foot on the field.

:laugh:

As a UK fan, I'm now pulling for LSU to win out and end the season as national champs with only one loss. That would mean that their one loss would have come at Kentucky. It would at least give the team something to hang its hats on.

Exactly and it would be nice to think we can add at least two and maybe 3 more wins which could put us around 9-4.

George Foster
11-04-2007, 09:23 PM
Exactly and it would be nice to think we can add at least two and maybe 3 more wins which could put us around 9-4.

We only play 12 games, so if we run the table, we are 9-3.:)

Now a bowl win would put us 10-3.

I'm hoping for 2 out of the next three, and 3rd place in the east which puts us in Tampa on New Year's day and the Outback Bowl against Wisconsin or Penn St.

WMR
11-10-2007, 05:47 PM
How much are the refs being paid by Vanderbilt for their 'performance' today?? :rolleyes:

WMR
11-10-2007, 06:40 PM
YES!!! Seven Wins Baby!!!!!

jmac
11-10-2007, 06:42 PM
How much are the refs being paid by Vanderbilt for their 'performance' today?? :rolleyes:

Whew...this was close but then again about every UK-Vandy game seems to be lately. Georgia(over Vandy) barely got a win so I will take it also.
Still seems like the offense just is a little out of sorts.

WMR
11-10-2007, 06:45 PM
Woodson is a nice QB, but I think he has been seriously over-rated by the national media.

jmac
11-10-2007, 06:59 PM
Woodson is a nice QB, but I think he has been seriously over-rated by the national media.

Woodson played better last season imo. He still plays smart and even if he is over--rated, at least it gets UK extra pub with the national media for recruits to see.

WMR
11-10-2007, 07:11 PM
Woodson played better last season imo. He still plays smart and even if he is over--rated, at least it gets UK extra pub with the national media for recruits to see.

Sure I agree with that.

Just watching him game in and game out, I don't like the way he floats the ball a lot of times. DBs will feast on those balls in the NFL.

George Foster
11-10-2007, 08:03 PM
Woodson played better last season imo. He still plays smart and even if he is over--rated, at least it gets UK extra pub with the national media for recruits to see.

No way Woodson as a junior beats LSU or Louisville or Arkansas..
Woodson as a senior is a lot better QB...period.

Oh Miss St beat Alabama today. They are no fluke.

George Foster
11-10-2007, 08:05 PM
Woodson is a nice QB, but I think he has been seriously over-rated by the national media.

I totally agree. He is not an NFL QB. He is just a "good story."

jmac
11-10-2007, 09:02 PM
No way Woodson as a junior beats LSU or Louisville or Arkansas..
Woodson as a senior is a lot better QB...period.

Oh Miss St beat Alabama today. They are no fluke.

Let me rephrase exactly what I was saying.
Woodson this season has displayed good quality's in leadership and calling a game etc. When I said better I was basically referring to one aspect of his game, throwing.
Much of this season he has overthrew/underthrew the deep ball which last season he seemed more on target on these throws and was considered an excellent deep passer.
Also, Woodson first half of last season ,No couldnt have beat the three teams you mentioned. However the LSU game, changed him as well as the team and the junior Woodson beat did Georgia and Clemson.
I am a big fan of Woodson and he is a special QB. One of his problems is I think people including myself raised the bar too high for him and now every time you see an overthrown ball, we think "wow Andre' s off".
He is an above average QB in the SEC that will be missed when he leaves UK.

jmac
11-10-2007, 09:15 PM
I totally agree. He is not an NFL QB. He is just a "good story."

Mel Kipper still has him listed as 8th best senior coming out and third best QB. These guys have a pretty good grip on who can be a good NFL QB and who will not. His stock is showing a "drop" sign however.
Will he be the big time NFL QB we hoped, I dont think so. However looking at some of the 2nd and third stringers on these rosters, I think Andre' can hold his own with them.

WMR
11-10-2007, 09:31 PM
He seems to have a pretty high football IQ for a college player. That will serve him in good stead as a backup in the NFL. (GOD HE IS SLOWWWW :laugh:)

George Foster
11-10-2007, 09:38 PM
Let me rephrase exactly what I was saying.
Woodson this season has displayed good quality's in leadership and calling a game etc. When I said better I was basically referring to one aspect of his game, throwing.
Much of this season he has overthrew/underthrew the deep ball which last season he seemed more on target on these throws and was considered an excellent deep passer.
Also, Woodson first half of last season ,No couldnt have beat the three teams you mentioned. However the LSU game, changed him as well as the team and the junior Woodson beat did Georgia and Clemson.
I am a big fan of Woodson and he is a special QB. One of his problems is I think people including myself raised the bar too high for him and now every time you see an overthrown ball, we think "wow Andre' s off".
He is an above average QB in the SEC that will be missed when he leaves UK.

I agree. The difference between Pulley and Tebow is Tebow can actually throw the ball as well as run. He will have to prove he can pass in the SEC or we will have a long season next year.

George Foster
11-10-2007, 09:42 PM
No way Woodson as a junior beats LSU or Louisville or Arkansas..
Woodson as a senior is a lot better QB...period.

Oh Miss St beat Alabama today. They are no fluke.

I expect Miss St. to beat Ole Miss to have seven wins..wow.

jmac
11-10-2007, 10:02 PM
I agree. The difference between Pulley and Tebow is Tebow can actually throw the ball as well as run. He will have to prove he can pass in the SEC or we will have a long season next year.

QB coach Sanders is really impressed with Pulley's throwing in the practices(granted not game situations) as Joker is also. I think Ky running threat with Pulley will add a diminsion to what should be a strong running game. As you stated, if he doesnt show he can throw though, we will be hurting. All this is based on if he actually wins the job.

As far as Tebow, they stated tonight how he will break every Fla record before he is through. I say if Meyer keeps running him the way he is, Tebow will be a different Tebow this time next season. He continues to take a pounding and gets up hobbling or slowly much of the time. Yes he is a good running QB but the guy not only has defenses zeroing in on him but he plays most every down. Maybe he will hold up , but the kid is taking some licks.
While I doubt Pulley will throw it like Tebow , he will be a QB defenses cant lock in on because of guys like Locke,Dixon,Smith.

George Foster
11-10-2007, 10:17 PM
QB coach Sanders is really impressed with Pulley's throwing in the practices(granted not game situations) as Joker is also. I think Ky running threat with Pulley will add a diminsion to what should be a strong running game. As you stated, if he doesnt show he can throw though, we will be hurting. All this is based on if he actually wins the job.

As far as Tebow, they stated tonight how he will break every Fla record before he is through. I say if Meyer keeps running him the way he is, Tebow will be a different Tebow this time next season. He continues to take a pounding and gets up hobbling or slowly much of the time. Yes he is a good running QB but the guy not only has defenses zeroing in on him but he plays most every down. Maybe he will hold up , but the kid is taking some licks.
While I doubt Pulley will throw it like Tebow , he will be a QB defenses cant lock in on because of guys like Locke,Dixon,Smith.

Do you expect Tebow to be back next season?

MaineRed
11-10-2007, 10:24 PM
I guess you guys haven't heard. The SEC sucks and Mississippi State is the reason why.

See the Ohio State thread for the evidence.

Tebow has to come back, doesn't he? Don't you have to complete your junior season before leaving school? Even without that rule I would say it is definite, he'll be back. Doesn't matter, Florida will suck and the SEC will about as good as the Sun Belt. Put it in the bank.

jmac
11-10-2007, 10:50 PM
Do you expect Tebow to be back next season?

I was referring to Tebow suffering an injury from excessive pounding play after play. I am of the thinking Tebow is an excellent spread offense QB but I dont think he would have same success at next level. My feeling is he will be more Alex Smith than Steve Young.
Someone asked Jeff Fisher on a call-in show the other night, why he didnt run the option more with Vince Young in there. Fisher said basically if he ran him the same way he was run in college ,he would get hurt in the NFL.
If the Tebow run threat isnt there in the NFL, I'm not sure he could beat the NFL defenses with his throwing. That being said , he runs the spread in college excellently and even with their 3 losses, I still cant see Tennesse in an SEC championship game instead of FLA.
Course I would rather UK be there.:)

MaineRed
11-10-2007, 10:56 PM
Florida has no shot of reaching the championship game. Georgia is 5-2 and even if they lose their last game they will be tied with Florida and they beat the Gators. It is Tenn or Georgia with the Vols having the upper hand due to their win over the Dawgs.

KronoRed
11-10-2007, 11:08 PM
Florida has no shot of reaching the championship game. Georgia is 5-2 and even if they lose their last game they will be tied with Florida and they beat the Gators. It is Tenn or Georgia with the Vols having the upper hand due to their win over the Dawgs.

Actually Florida has a slim shot, if they win tonight and if UGA losses to Kentucky, and Tennessee loses to Kentucky or Vandy but not both then they would all be 5-3, a 3 way tie with each team being 1-1 vs the other 2, the next tie breaker is division record and Florida would win it with a 4-1 inner division record.

Of course I'm not going to depend on Kentucky or Vandy so I'm fine with not reaching the championship game this year ;)

MaineRed
11-10-2007, 11:11 PM
Ahhh, the 3 way tie to eliminate the head to head losses.

Must be that SEC bias keeping Florida alive.

Thanks KR.

jmac
11-11-2007, 12:13 AM
Florida has no shot of reaching the championship game. Georgia is 5-2 and even if they lose their last game they will be tied with Florida and they beat the Gators. It is Tenn or Georgia with the Vols having the upper hand due to their win over the Dawgs.

Merely stating I see Fla as a better team than Tennessee even though UT has upper hand !

jmac
11-17-2007, 11:08 PM
Looking at the game today Ky didnt deserve to be as close as they did.
Woodson missed several open receivers and had some super cathes by Tamme/Johnson bail him out on bad throws. Of course, then with us trailing 21-13 in the 4th, we have the ball around the 15 yard line and after running around for what seemed like two minutes, he takes a sack for a 18 yard loss instead of throwing the ball away. Wow !
Of course other plays stumped me as well such as very late in game,Little standing under the ball and instead of fair catching it on the 13 he lets it bounce and goes to the seven.
Also Joker Phillips really had me scratching my head. Ky couldnt run the ball and yet he continously seemed to try and put Ky in 2nd and long situations. Little carried 16 times for 30 yards and Locke carries 5 times for 27 yards and 2 of those carries are for 10 and 12.I would have liked to seen Locke get the ball a few more times with his speed.
The defense played better than I expected with a type of bend but dont break.
With the way Georgia had played lately and the way we played vs Miss State and Vandy, I didnt expect us to win. I guess if we win against UT and finish 8-4 , we will take it.

WMR
11-17-2007, 11:23 PM
Today was what you call "enforcing one's will on an opponent."

You absolutely CAN NOT EVER take that one sack that you referred to. Inexcusable. Woodson had plenty of time, had plenty of space, SAW the pass rush, WATCHED them get closer, and then huddled into a little ball as they sacked him. :laugh: I was yelling at my t.v.: "YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT SACK THROW THE @#$% BALL!"

WMR
11-24-2007, 02:45 PM
:bang:

WMR
11-24-2007, 03:02 PM
:bang: :bang:

WMR
11-24-2007, 03:07 PM
PLEASE KEEP RUNNING THE BALL TO THE OUTSIDE. IT IS WORKING SO WELL.

:rolleyes:

WE GO FOR NICE GAINS EVERY TIME WE GO UP THE MIDDLE, SO WHAT DO WE START DOING? RUN TO THE OUTSIDE EVERY TIME. :rolleyes:

jmac
11-24-2007, 03:09 PM
:bang:

For some reason, this team has not played the same since the Fla game. I still say the coaches "rested" some fo the guys that maybe could have played like Burton, Little etc vs Misst State but this is only my opinion and I could be wrong.
Regardless, they havent performed near the way they did early in the season and Joker hasnt called games as well.
Ky isnt running yet they still pound it.
If they win today which doesnt appear likely then 8-4 is alright.But from where they was, to finish 7-5 will fall into the dissappointing category.

jmac
11-24-2007, 03:11 PM
PLEASE KEEP RUNNING THE BALL TO THE OUTSIDE. IT IS WORKING SO WELL.

:rolleyes:

WE GO FOR NICE GAINS EVERY TIME WE GO UP THE MIDDLE, SO WHAT DO WE START DOING? RUN TO THE OUTSIDE EVERY TIME. :rolleyes:

Sorta funny I was commenting on Joker's poor play calling and before it posts, he proves me right !

WMR
11-24-2007, 03:14 PM
For some reason, this team has not played the same since the Fla game. I still say the coaches "rested" some fo the guys that maybe could have played like Burton, Little etc vs Misst State but this is only my opinion and I could be wrong.
Regardless, they havent performed near the way they did early in the season and Joker hasnt called games as well.
Ky isnt running yet they still pound it.
If they win today which doesnt appear likely then 8-4 is alright.But from where they was, to finish 7-5 will fall into the dissappointing category.

Considering how promising this season started, I would have to agree.

It is really quite mystifying how this team fell off the face of the Earth so abruptly.

Joker's play-calling has been quite disappointing for a few weeks now. He's normally so sharp and on point. :dunno:

WMR
11-24-2007, 04:03 PM
THROW THE DAMN BALL WOODSON!!!!

:angry: :rant: :rolleyes:

MY GOD HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO GET BROKEN OF TAKING ALL THOSE HORRIBLE SACKS AND GETTING RID OF THE DAMN BALL IF HE'S GOING TO SURVIVE IN THE NFL

ARGHHHHHH

Maddening.

jmac
11-24-2007, 04:18 PM
This is a terrible display of football and is quite frankly embarrassing.
As Marty B would say , this is turning into an 'ole fashion butt whuppin !'

Gainesville Red
11-24-2007, 06:39 PM
Tebow TD Count: 2

One on a 20-yard run that followed a 15-yard run.

One on a 50 yard bomb.


It's a shame Kentucky-Tennesse turned into such an overtime barn-burner. Half the country's not watching.

WMR
11-24-2007, 06:40 PM
Tebow TD Count:

2, one on a 20-yard run that followed a 15-yard run.

One on a 50 yard bomb.


It's a shame Kentucky-Tennesse turned into such an overtime barn-burner. Half the country's not watching.


DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT GIRLY-MAN IN OUR THREAD!!!!!

:angry:

;) :lol:

Gainesville Red
11-24-2007, 06:45 PM
DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT GIRLY-MAN IN OUR THREAD!!!!!

:angry:

;) :lol:

You're absolutley right.

Wrong thread.


:beerme: , obviously.

WMR
11-24-2007, 06:47 PM
You're absolutley right.

Wrong thread.


:beerme: , obviously.

;)

Just joshin' ya!! :beerme:

:)

Gainesville Red
11-24-2007, 06:50 PM
They moved to the Florida game over here, but they have been cutting in occasionally.

What a game.

WMR
11-24-2007, 06:52 PM
They moved to the Florida game over here, but they have been cutting in occasionally.

What a game.

Can't believe they got that FG blocked!!!

THAT WAS THEIR SHOT!!!

ARGH

KronoRed
11-24-2007, 06:52 PM
Get Off My Screen UtUk

:)

WMR
11-24-2007, 06:53 PM
Get Off My Screen UtUk

:)

WHERE'S THE RAID?!?!

WE'VE GOT A GATOR INFESTATION!!

Gainesville Red
11-24-2007, 06:55 PM
WHERE'S THE RAID?!?!

WE'VE GOT A GATOR INFESTATION!!

The corny UF commercials go something like this................

"The University of Florida is in Gainesville. The Gator Nation is everywhere."

But I can assure you, the Gators on board are pulling hard for UK today.

There's been whispers of a UT loss and a UF win = a BSC bowl bid for UF.

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:00 PM
4th OT?!?!

My nerves can't take this!

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:01 PM
The corny UF commercials go something like this................

"The University of Florida is in Gainesville. The Gator Nation is everywhere."

But I can assure you, the Gators on board are pulling hard for UK today.

There's been whispers of a UT loss and a UF win = a BSC bowl bid for UF.

:lol: Gator Nation... sort of like the Illuminati.

KronoRed
11-24-2007, 07:01 PM
END GAME END ;)

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:02 PM
HAHA Unsportsmanlike on UT after the failed 2 point conversion.

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:03 PM
END GAME END ;)

Maybe GOD is trying to tell you something, Krono?

You are living in Northern Kentucky after all!!! :D

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:03 PM
NICE! Unsportsmanlike moves UT back to the 40 yard line for their 4th OT offensive possession.

OnBaseMachine
11-24-2007, 07:04 PM
A three loss team in a BCS bowl? Surely not.

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:04 PM
HOLY CRAP WHAT PATHETIC DEFENSE

Argh.

OnBaseMachine
11-24-2007, 07:04 PM
NICE! Unsportsmanlike moves UT back to the 40 yard line for their 4th OT offensive possession.

Tennessee 40 yard TD pass. Wow.

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:04 PM
We've got a big play defense all right. :rolleyes:

Just for the wrong team.

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:05 PM
Crap. Two pointer is good.

Kentucky is behind the eight ball now.

KronoRed
11-24-2007, 07:05 PM
These OT's seem to always go the same, I like OT but they should tweak it a bit.

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:05 PM
Tennessee 40 yard TD pass. Wow.

LOL

That's all you can do at that pathetic display of "DEFENSE."

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:06 PM
These OT's seem to always go the same, I like OT but they should tweak it a bit.

I agree. Not really sure HOW, but I agree.

Gainesville Red
11-24-2007, 07:06 PM
Krono missed another Tebow TD pass. :p:

OnBaseMachine
11-24-2007, 07:06 PM
I for one love college OT the way it is now.

KronoRed
11-24-2007, 07:07 PM
Krono missed another Tebow TD pass. :p:

I got Mick on the radio, I like Mick :clap:

KronoRed
11-24-2007, 07:07 PM
I for one love college OT the way it is now.

Non stop scoring? come on, move em back to the 50 and make them drive some more

Gainesville Red
11-24-2007, 07:08 PM
I got Mick on the radio, I like Mick :clap:

"OH MY!!!!"

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:09 PM
How big of a rival do you guys view Florida State? Do you hate them?

Gainesville Red
11-24-2007, 07:11 PM
How big of a rival do you guys view Florida State? Do you hate them?

More than life itself.

-Directions to FSU from UF: North 'til you smell it, west 'til you step in it.

OnBaseMachine
11-24-2007, 07:11 PM
I remember when those SEC homer announcers used to brag about how great SEC defenses were. Now that SEC offenses have recognized what a forward pass is, you no longer hear about those great defenses. ;)

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:12 PM
More than life itself.

-Directions to FSU from UF: North 'til you smell it, west 'til you step in it.

More than your SEC opponents?

(who in the SEC do you hate the most?)

KronoRed
11-24-2007, 07:12 PM
FSU is the rival you don't even respect, even the puppies from Athens get more respect, they are just a dirty bunch.

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:12 PM
FSU is the rival you don't even respect, even the puppies from Athens get more respect, they are just a dirty bunch.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh Krono, you crack me up. :laugh:

Gainesville Red
11-24-2007, 07:13 PM
I remember when those SEC homer announcers used to brag about how great SEC defenses were. Now that SEC offenses have recognized what a forward pass is, you no longer hear about those great defenses. ;)

How'd that Big Ten school from Ohio's offense fare against the SEC school from Gainesville's D last January?;)

KronoRed
11-24-2007, 07:13 PM
I remember when those SEC homer announcers used to brag about how great SEC defenses were. Now that SEC offenses have recognized what a forward pass is, you no longer hear about those great defenses. ;)

Yeah no such thing as say Pac 10 homers ;)

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:14 PM
I remember when those SEC homer announcers used to brag about how great SEC defenses were. Now that SEC offenses have recognized what a forward pass is, you no longer hear about those great defenses. ;)

UH OH.

Now we've got not only Gator infestation, but a nasty Pac-10 outbreak as well!! :eek:

:evil:

Gainesville Red
11-24-2007, 07:14 PM
More than your SEC opponents?

(who in the SEC do you hate the most?)

It varies from fan to fan.

Most hate FSU the most, followed by either Georgia or UT. Most also hate Miami.

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:15 PM
Crap.

Ball-game.

Woodson eats it yet again, what a surprise.

Oh well, way to come back... I thought it was over.

KronoRed
11-24-2007, 07:15 PM
Throw the ball dude.

Oh well.. finally it's over

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:15 PM
It varies from fan to fan.

Most hate FSU the most, followed by either Georgia or UT. Most also hate Miami.

Thanks for the info.

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:16 PM
Throw the ball dude.

Oh well.. finally it's over

He "EATS IT" more than any player in America, I swear.

:angry:

Gainesville Red
11-24-2007, 07:17 PM
Basketball's way different.

UK is enemy #1, followed by UT.

(Until recently, I think it's a jealousy thing. Don't tell anyone I said that.)

OnBaseMachine
11-24-2007, 07:17 PM
Yeah no such thing as say Pac 10 homers ;)

Not compared to the SEC hype machine. ;)

Yesterday was an embarrassment for college football the way thos eSEC announcers were cheering for LSU.

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:17 PM
Oh well, at least now Krono can watch the FB Tebow rack up some more cheap touchdowns.

Gainesville Red
11-24-2007, 07:18 PM
Not compared to the SEC hype machine. ;)

Yesterday was an embarrassment for college football the way thos eSEC announcers were cheering for LSU.

I'll not vouch for the CBS announcers. I think they're terrible.

Gainesville Red
11-24-2007, 07:18 PM
Oh well, at least now Krono can watch the FB Tebow rack up some more cheap touchdowns.

Define "cheap"

;)

KronoRed
11-24-2007, 07:19 PM
Not compared to the SEC hype machine. ;)


Yeah right, ABC anyone?

OnBaseMachine
11-24-2007, 07:19 PM
Florida State has zero offense.

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:19 PM
Define "cheap"

;)

:lol:

Nah, Tebow's a stud. And he's in the perfect system to maximize his immense abilities.

Gainesville Red
11-24-2007, 07:20 PM
Florida State has zero offense.

And Zero class.

OnBaseMachine
11-24-2007, 07:20 PM
Yeah right, ABC anyone?

It must not be very bad then because I've never noticed it. Everyone notices it with CBS.

KronoRed
11-24-2007, 07:22 PM
It must not be very bad then because I've never noticed it. Everyone notices it with CBS.

I've noticed it, and why watch if you think SEC football is so awful?

OnBaseMachine
11-24-2007, 07:22 PM
Anyway, I'm pretty pumped. Oregon is about to lose meaning all we have to do is beat the bRuins next week and we win the Pac-10 and clinch a berth in the Rose Bowl against OSU.

OnBaseMachine
11-24-2007, 07:24 PM
I've noticed it, and why watch if you think SEC football is so awful?

SEC football has been entertaining this year due to the improvement of offenses but the SEC homer announcers ruin it and make it hard to watch.

KronoRed
11-24-2007, 07:24 PM
Every conference has their homer announcers.

Anyway..tough loss for UK

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:25 PM
SEC football has been entertaining this year due to the improvement of offenses but the SEC homer announcers ruin it and make it hard to watch.

WAH.

Try watching a basketball game with Billy pACCker or Dukie V announcing.

You watch Georgeo Grandeo fawn over the Cards, don'tcha??

And yes, ABC LOVES the conference that they pay millions of dollars to broadcast, wonder why?

Joseph
11-24-2007, 07:28 PM
So after all the hype, they end up 7-5.

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:30 PM
So after all the hype, they end up 7-5.

:(

KronoRed
11-24-2007, 07:33 PM
So after all the hype, they end up 7-5.

Better then Ole Miss ;)

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:35 PM
Better then Ole Miss ;)

THAT'S MEAN. :censored:

jmac
11-24-2007, 07:40 PM
Usually the main thing as a Ky fan is to beat Louisville(no offense Joshnky) and find 5 more wins somewhere.
This season they beat Louisville and win 7 games and it still seems dissappointing. :confused:

WMR
11-24-2007, 07:44 PM
Usually the main thing as a Ky fan is to beat Louisville(no offense Joshnky) and find 5 more wins somewhere.
This season they beat Louisville and win 7 games and it still seems dissappointing. :confused:

The way the season started set our expectations up for something different.

dabvu2498
11-24-2007, 07:45 PM
Better then Ole Miss ;)

At least their fans can sing a new song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nACZJ5x_wBY

We hardly knew ye, Coach O.

Gainesville Red
11-24-2007, 07:48 PM
I may be way out of line, and I apologize if I am, but I thought it was a pretty good year for UK.

Obviously, I'm not up there, and don't really know what's going on other than they're usually pretty bad, and this year they were almost pretty good.

Is there someone to step in for Woodson next year?

jmac
11-24-2007, 08:44 PM
I may be way out of line, and I apologize if I am, but I thought it was a pretty good year for UK.

Obviously, I'm not up there, and don't really know what's going on other than they're usually pretty bad, and this year they were almost pretty good.

Is there someone to step in for Woodson next year?

My gut tells me it will be Curtis Pulley who will probably have alot more plays used to utilize his running skills. Similar to what Fla does though I doubt he will match Tebow's throwing accuracy. They should do well with Pulley, Locke, Dixon etc running the ball.
The thing is, I have mentioned in another post in this thread, UK could get to the place where they "should" win 6-7 games every year and about every third or fourth year do something special.
Yes the year was/is pretty good but as WMR stated , with this group of seniors, this was set up to be the "special" year.
7-5 is one thing but to finish 3-5 in the SEC with this group is dissapointing.
Next season will probably be back to the try to get 6 wins.

OnBaseMachine
11-24-2007, 08:58 PM
At least their fans can sing a new song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nACZJ5x_wBY

We hardly knew ye, Coach O.

My hope is Coach O returns to USC as the D-line coach. He's one heckuva d-line coach.

WVRed
11-24-2007, 09:26 PM
My gut tells me it will be Curtis Pulley who will probably have alot more plays used to utilize his running skills. Similar to what Fla does though I doubt he will match Tebow's throwing accuracy. They should do well with Pulley, Locke, Dixon etc running the ball.
The thing is, I have mentioned in another post in this thread, UK could get to the place where they "should" win 6-7 games every year and about every third or fourth year do something special.
Yes the year was/is pretty good but as WMR stated , with this group of seniors, this was set up to be the "special" year.
7-5 is one thing but to finish 3-5 in the SEC with this group is dissapointing.
Next season will probably be back to the try to get 6 wins.

I look for Mike Hartline to be the starter. 6'5 and has a cannon arm, and he is young.

Next year will be interesting if they can find somebody who can replace Woodson, whether it be Pulley or Hartline.