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WMR
09-29-2007, 11:36 PM
First time since 2003 that 5 top-five rated schools have lost on the same day.

Gators get beat at home! HUGE for the Cats.

Outside of the top-10, there were a BUNCH of other upsets as well.

Crazy, crazy day in college football.

Reds Fanatic
09-29-2007, 11:39 PM
In one weekend the number 3, 4, 5, 7 and 10 teams all lose.

WMR
09-29-2007, 11:40 PM
Where do you think those teams that lost will fall to in the polls?

Reds Fanatic
09-29-2007, 11:43 PM
Hard to say because so many teams lost. Outside the 5 I mentioned the number 11 and 13 teams also lost.

The top 5 will be probably be USC, LSU, California, Ohio State and Wisconsin but past that it is hard to figure.

Javy Pornstache
09-30-2007, 12:44 AM
Twas a great day for college football. Here's how I see the new rankings:

1) USC
2) LSU
3) California
4) Ohio State
5) Wisconsin
6) Oklahoma
7) Florida
8) West Virginia
9) Boston College
10) Kentucky

I'm being optimistic for a UK top ten ranking, fellas... but I wouldn't be shocked if they leapfrogged South Florida all the way to ten ahead of UK, and UK 11.

Caveat Emperor
09-30-2007, 02:54 AM
I'd like to also note, for the record, that THE Tulane University of Louisiana managed to cover the spread today and actually had LSU down 9-7 with under 2 minutes to go in the first half.

Moral victories, baby! :D

WVRed
09-30-2007, 09:31 AM
Twas a great day for college football. Here's how I see the new rankings:

1) USC
2) LSU
3) California
4) Ohio State
5) Wisconsin
6) Oklahoma
7) Florida
8) West Virginia
9) Boston College
10) Kentucky

I'm being optimistic for a UK top ten ranking, fellas... but I wouldn't be shocked if they leapfrogged South Florida all the way to ten ahead of UK, and UK 11.

If WVU is ranked higher than Kentucky, something is wrong.

RBA
09-30-2007, 12:11 PM
I would move Oregon higher in to the top 10. They lost to the new number 3 team by a heartbreaker when the Oregon player fumbled the football forward to the endzone for a touchback.

BuckeyeRed27
09-30-2007, 12:58 PM
I'm thinking more like:
1. USC
2. LSU
3. Cal
4. Ohio State
5. Wisco
6. Florida
7. Oregon
8. Oklahoma
9. South Florida
10. BC

Reds Fanatic
09-30-2007, 03:19 PM
New Polls are out. In the AP poll LSU passes USC for no1.

Here are the complete polls:


AP Top 25
1. LSU (33) 5-0 1,593
2. USC (32) 4-0 1,591
3. California 5-0 1,475
4. Ohio State 5-0 1,420
5. Wisconsin 5-0 1,271
6. South Florida 4-0 1,203
7. Boston College 5-0 1,172
8. Kentucky 5-0 1,143
9. Florida 4-1 1,031
10. Oklahoma 4-1 992
11. South Carolina 4-1 900
12. Georgia 4-1 885
13. West Virginia 4-1 861
14. Oregon 4-1 837
15. Virginia Tech 4-1 639
16. Hawaii 5-0 586
17. Missouri 4-0 561
18. Arizona State 5-0 497
19. Texas 4-1 449
20. Cincinnati 5-0 377
21. Rutgers 3-1 299
22. Clemson 4-1 265
23. Purdue 5-0 218
24. Kansas State 3-1 214
25. Nebraska 4-1 198
Others Receiving Votes
Florida State 101, Miami (FL) 83, Illinois 59, Auburn 52, UCLA 49, Texas A&M 29, Michigan State 16, Michigan 15, Connecticut 9, Alabama 6, Arkansas 5, Colorado 5, UCF 5, Penn State 4, Virginia 3, Kansas 3, Boise State 3, Washington 1.
Dropped From Rankings
Penn State 21, Alabama 22.


Complete Rankings
USA Today Poll
1. USC (45) 4-0 1,483
2. LSU (14) 5-0 1,454
3. California 5-0 1,363
4. Ohio State (1) 5-0 1,313
5. Wisconsin 5-0 1,251
6. Boston College 5-0 1,138
7. Florida 4-1 1,000
8. Kentucky 5-0 971
9. South Florida 4-0 960
10. Oklahoma 4-1 925
11. Georgia 4-1 758
12. West Virginia 4-1 756
13. Oregon 4-1 697
14. Virginia Tech 4-1 661
15. Hawaii 5-0 585
16. Texas 4-1 573
17. Missouri 4-0 532
18. South Carolina 4-1 529
19. Arizona State 5-0 466
20. Purdue 5-0 423
21. Rutgers 3-1 347
22. Clemson 4-1 278
23. Nebraska 4-1 261
24. Cincinnati 5-0 249
25. UCLA 4-1 79
Others Receiving Votes
Miami (FL) 68, Michigan State 63, Kansas 48, Florida State 46, Auburn 42, Kansas State 33, Boise State 25, Connecticut 23, Illinois 21, Tennessee 17, Virginia 15, PENNST 12, Texas A&M 10, Michigan 10, Alabama 5, Colorado 3, Georgia Tech 3, Indiana 1, UCF 1, Wake Forest 1, Wyoming 1.
Dropped From Rankings
Penn State 19, Michigan State 23, Alabama 24.

GoReds33
09-30-2007, 03:24 PM
I have no clue why LSU would be higher than USC. My feeling has always been that the number one team at the start of the year must lose a game to lose their number one ranking.

MWM
09-30-2007, 03:36 PM
I have no clue why LSU would be higher than USC. My feeling has always been that the number one team at the start of the year must lose a game to lose their number one ranking.

But what if you thought USC would be the better team, but after watching them for a few weeks, your'e convinced LSU iss better? Afterall, pre-season rankings are merely specualtion without a single down of football being played.

If they're truly "rankings" it should be based on who the better team is, not necessarily who has the better record.

pedro
09-30-2007, 03:37 PM
I would move Oregon higher in to the top 10. They lost to the new number 3 team by a heartbreaker when the Oregon player fumbled the football forward to the endzone for a touchback.

I agree. they've been pretty impressive.

LoganBuck
09-30-2007, 04:00 PM
What fool gave Ohio State a number one vote? Ohio State fans are starting to get excited but come on. Purdue will be a challenge this week on the road at night. I love the Buckeyes but they are still a very flawed team. They have offensive issues, and those deficiencies are being covered up by the fact that they have outclassed all their opponents athletically. Purdue seems like they can execute their own offense so they could challenge Ohio State. I still think Ohio State wins but I am wary, I still dread that trip to Happy Valley.

I have also heard several radio people say that everyone in the BigTen should watch out for Michigan. Michigan beat Notre Dame (horrible), Penn State (poorly coached), and Northwestern (implosion). They still look slow, and if Northwestern had not gift wrapped the fourth quarter Lloyd Carr would be off the back burner and on the incinerator.

Blimpie
09-30-2007, 05:23 PM
Twas a great day for college football. Here's how I see the new rankings:

1) USC
2) LSU
3) California
4) Ohio State
5) Wisconsin
6) Oklahoma
7) Florida
8) West Virginia
9) Boston College
10) Kentucky

I'm being optimistic for a UK top ten ranking, fellas... but I wouldn't be shocked if they leapfrogged South Florida all the way to ten ahead of UK, and UK 11.For the most part, I agree with this, but I gotta drop West Virginia out of my Top 10.

Also, Oklahoma should drop further than 3 spots (I say to around 9 or 10) because of their bad, bad, bad loss on Saturday.

MWM
09-30-2007, 06:16 PM
Oklahoma is over-rated pretty much every year. They're never as good as they're made out to be by the polls.

Unassisted
09-30-2007, 07:18 PM
Wisconsin reaching #5 makes me think it's less likely they'll stay undefeated through October.

I can't imagine anyone would have predicted a month ago that the only 3 ranked Big Ten teams would be the teams in this poll.

Hawaii looks like they could be on track to make a BCS bowl this year. They might not even have to get past Washington on December 1 to do it.

Caveat Emperor
09-30-2007, 09:24 PM
Oklahoma is over-rated pretty much every year. They're never as good as they're made out to be by the polls.

Kinda like Florida State -- getting the positive benefit of the doubt every year based on reputation alone.

WVRed
09-30-2007, 10:18 PM
I think I posted this in another thread, but here goes.

I'm pulling for West Virginia to win out the rest of the year. The only games they have left that could be a challenge is Rutgers and Louisville(will be a shootout).

Lee Corso commented on College Gameday yesterday that he spoke one of the Mississippi schools(either Orgeron or Croom), and that they thought Kentucky has as good a chance as anybody to run the table in the SEC and play in the Sugar Bowl. If this happens, there is a possibility that Kentucky and West Virginia could play against each other.

That being said, after watching what little of the WVU-South Florida game that I saw, the Mountaineers are very one dimensional and are capable of being overtaken by a fast defense such as South Florida, which held Steve Slaton to 55 yards.

WVU fans here will make the argument that Pat White is effective at passing, but for the most part, when he does throw, it isn't very often. If White threw the ball as often as Woodson, I would venture to say he would average about two to three interceptions a game.

But, that being said, Florida lost to a team that was unranked and WVU lost to a ranked team. How does WVU fall farther than Florida? Doesn't seem fair.

I'm really starting to feel very confident about the rest of Kentuckys schedule the rest of the year with the exception of LSU, which really is on another level with the rest of the league. While Woodson accomplished a feat this week with his interception streak being broken, I have a feeling his Achilles heel will be exposed in that he is more willing to take a sack than get rid of the ball, and Bo Pelini will take full advantage of this for LSU.

Woodson and Brohm will be the first QBs taken on draft day, and I have a feeling that both will do the state of Kentucky proud with whatever teams they end up with.

WVPacman
09-30-2007, 11:44 PM
For the most part, I agree with this, but I gotta drop West Virginia out of my Top 10.

Also, Oklahoma should drop further than 3 spots (I say to around 9 or 10) because of their bad, bad, bad loss on Saturday.

I have to dissagree with you there... Why should WVU be the only team drop out of the top 10 when they lost to a ranked team and Florida played a average Auburn team that was,nt even ranked.WVU,Florida,Oklahoma all should have droped out of the top 10 exspecially Oklahoma and Florida b/c the teams that beat them were unranked.WVU,was the only top 10 team to lose to a ranked team yet the polls and everybody on tv thinks they should be the only one that should drop out of the top 10.

Its all a popularity contest and they put the teams up there that they want to see.

15fan
10-01-2007, 10:18 AM
Michigan is getting votes at 3-2.

I'd like to remind everyone...

To open the season, they lost at home to a I-AA school that in turn lost 2 weeks later @ Wofford.

They have a win @ home against 0-5 Notre Dame, a team that has been outscored 166-46 through 300 minutes of football.

They also have a win against Northwestern, who in their most recent home game, lost to a Duke team that had lost 22 straight games.

BuckeyeRedleg
10-01-2007, 11:22 AM
What fool gave Ohio State a number one vote?

Hmm. Dunno. Maybe Willingham. After almost beating USC, maybe he felt they weren't deserving and he was trying to make a statement. Does he have a vote?

bucksfan2
10-01-2007, 12:41 PM
What fool gave Ohio State a number one vote? Ohio State fans are starting to get excited but come on. Purdue will be a challenge this week on the road at night. I love the Buckeyes but they are still a very flawed team. They have offensive issues, and those deficiencies are being covered up by the fact that they have outclassed all their opponents athletically. Purdue seems like they can execute their own offense so they could challenge Ohio State. I still think Ohio State wins but I am wary, I still dread that trip to Happy Valley.

I have also heard several radio people say that everyone in the BigTen should watch out for Michigan. Michigan beat Notre Dame (horrible), Penn State (poorly coached), and Northwestern (implosion). They still look slow, and if Northwestern had not gift wrapped the fourth quarter Lloyd Carr would be off the back burner and on the incinerator.

OSU lost a lot of creditability when they lost the Natl Championship game last year. Most assumed that OSU was slow and reverted to the old days of the big 10. I think that OSU has the speed to play with anyone in the country. They played a horriable game last season and seem to continue to suffer from it. To be quite honest I don't see a problem with OSU getting a first place vote. Has LSU really separated themselves that much from the rest of the pack. Its true that OSU lost a lot from last season but LSU lost just as much. In the first 5 weeks of the season there really hasn't been a match up of two great teams. The most impressive win this season has to be Cal over Oregon. I give OSU more credit now for going into washington and beating them after seing USC struggle against UW.

As for UM I wouldn't doubt seing them back in the top 25 soon. To be honest there are some top 25 ranked teams that I wouldn't consider a top 30 football team. I think UC falls into that category. They no doubt deserve that ranking but if you put them on a neutral field with UM there is no doubt in my mind that UM has a better team and would win the majority of the games.

LoganBuck
10-01-2007, 01:32 PM
OSU lost a lot of creditability when they lost the Natl Championship game last year. Most assumed that OSU was slow and reverted to the old days of the big 10. I think that OSU has the speed to play with anyone in the country. They played a horriable game last season and seem to continue to suffer from it. To be quite honest I don't see a problem with OSU getting a first place vote. Has LSU really separated themselves that much from the rest of the pack. Its true that OSU lost a lot from last season but LSU lost just as much. In the first 5 weeks of the season there really hasn't been a match up of two great teams. The most impressive win this season has to be Cal over Oregon. I give OSU more credit now for going into washington and beating them after seing USC struggle against UW.

As for UM I wouldn't doubt seing them back in the top 25 soon. To be honest there are some top 25 ranked teams that I wouldn't consider a top 30 football team. I think UC falls into that category. They no doubt deserve that ranking but if you put them on a neutral field with UM there is no doubt in my mind that UM has a better team and would win the majority of the games.

Truthfully I think UC versus Michigan would be a slugfest. Michigan can not stop the spread offense. UC would stuggle versus Michigan's offense. I would like to see that game, I am thinking it would be a 38-35 kind of score.

bucksfan2
10-01-2007, 02:10 PM
Truthfully I think UC versus Michigan would be a slugfest. Michigan can not stop the spread offense. UC would stuggle versus Michigan's offense. I would like to see that game, I am thinking it would be a 38-35 kind of score.

Florida State, Miami (FL), Illinois, Auburn, UCLA, Texas A&M, Michigan State, Michigan, Connecticut, Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, UCF, Penn State, Virginia, Kansas, Boise State, Washington 1.

Here is the list of teams recieving votes from the AP Poll. Let me first say that I am impressed with UC and think they are deserving of being ranked. I love what Kelly has done to the program and has already brought national attention to the program. He has taken it from a middle of the pack fringe BCS conference to a legit top 25 contender. However I think the actual system is flawed. Of the above teams I would give UC the nod on a neutral field over Connecticut, Colorado, UCF, Virginia, and Kansas. Even at home I still think they are dogs to FSU, UM, Auburn, UCLA, A&M, MSU, Bama, Arkansas, and PSU. I guess my point is that while UC is impressive I just dont consider them one of the top 30 teams or so in the country.

OnBaseMachine
10-06-2007, 10:31 PM
USC just pulled a Michigan. Wow.

Two of the biggest upsets I have seen in my life have happened in the first six weeks of the 2007 college football season.

Reds Fanatic
10-06-2007, 10:38 PM
Stanford a 40 point underdog beats USC. Unbelievable.

OnBaseMachine
10-06-2007, 10:38 PM
Stanford wins 24-23 over SC. Unreal. It's time for Mark Sanchez.

What an amazing college football season. There isn't a dominant team in the country.

MaineRed
10-06-2007, 10:39 PM
The top four in the country could be:

California
Ohio State
Boston College
South Florida


That might be the wackiest top four I can remember. Ohio State is a perennial but the other 3? Wow.

A Florida win probably makes them the number 5 team.

RedFanAlways1966
10-06-2007, 10:42 PM
Stanford over USC... unreal. Backup QB and scored the game winner on 4th and goal w/ a pass that was thrown "up for grabs" (IMO). I guess that is why they play the game.

Interesting football season.

OnBaseMachine
10-06-2007, 10:45 PM
Jim Harbaugh is a great coach. I said from day one it was a great hire by Stanford. He'll have them back on the college football map again before long. A six win season is not out of the question for them. Stanford played a hell of a game.

Hopefully the Mark Sanchez era begins in LA now.

RedFanAlways1966
10-06-2007, 10:47 PM
LSU scores to make it a 3-point game and then Florida goes through the LSU defense like a hot knife through butter. FLA up 10 points with 5:00 left in the 3rd.

WMR
10-06-2007, 10:49 PM
Damnnnnnnnnnnnnn USC loses to STANFORD????

Did you watch the game, OBM? How did USC play?

Reds Fanatic
10-06-2007, 10:51 PM
I just heard the kid that scored the winning TD for Stanford was playing after his father died this week. There were not even sure he would be at the game but he played and scored the winning TD.

OnBaseMachine
10-06-2007, 10:57 PM
Damnnnnnnnnnnnnn USC loses to STANFORD????

Did you watch the game, OBM? How did USC play?

They played about as pathetic as possible. But I could see it coming from a mile away. They've played awful in every game this year except for half of the Nebraska game. I knew a loss was coming pretty soon. Oregon will rip us apart in three weeks. And then we have Cal soon afterward.

John David Booty is just a championship caliber QB. Mark Sanchez is that guy IMO. It's time to make then change.

WMR
10-06-2007, 11:29 PM
What year is Mark Sanchez? Is he a stud?

WVRed
10-06-2007, 11:38 PM
What year is Mark Sanchez? Is he a stud?

He and Booty were both the number one QBs in the nation, Booty from 2003 and Sanchez 2005 coming. Sanchez is a sophomore, so that is why Booty got the nod last year since he was older.

Sad thing is, Mitch Mustain(top QB in 2006 and former Arkansas QB) is coming in next year. If Sanchez doesnt take advantage now, he may never get the chance.

It's a great problem to have. I'd say USC is the college football version of the Yankees.

OnBaseMachine
10-06-2007, 11:48 PM
Florida is one of the worst tackling teams I have seen in a while. Thanks to that, LSU will remain #1.

Reds Fanatic
10-07-2007, 12:00 AM
LSU wins 28-24 so the new top 5 will be

LSU
California
Ohio State
South Florida
Boston College

GoReds33
10-07-2007, 12:03 AM
LSU wins 28-24 so the new top 5 will be

LSU
California
Ohio State
South Florida
Boston CollegeI know Florida lossed, but they played a heck of a game. I don't think they will slip in the rankings one bit. If they do, it's just because the writers feel obligated to drop a losing team. I like them in the top 10, and possibly moving up.:)

WMR
10-07-2007, 12:04 AM
That Florida - LSU game was one of the best football games I have EVER seen.

And what about those Bearcats?

OnBaseMachine
10-07-2007, 12:20 AM
I know Florida lossed, but they played a heck of a game. I don't think they will slip in the rankings one bit. If they do, it's just because the writers feel obligated to drop a losing team. I like them in the top 10, and possibly moving up.:)

If Oregon dropped after losing to Cal then Florida should drop too.

KronoRed
10-07-2007, 01:29 AM
Of course Florida should drop.

Tough loss but with something like 73% of the team being freshman and sophmores (thanks Zook) to play big bad lsu close is something.

Caveat Emperor
10-07-2007, 02:55 AM
LSU wins 28-24 so the new top 5 will be

LSU
California
Ohio State
South Florida
Boston College

I wouldn't be surprised if there were no undefeated teams when it is all said and done, because every team listed is thoroughly beatable this year.

GAC
10-07-2007, 05:56 AM
I think California is a good ballclub. But that's a heck of a layoff from 9/29 till their next game vs Oregon State on 10/13. And then I look at the schedule after that and I just don't see them going undefeated. I don't know where they are ranked at, as far as strength of schedule, but IMO, that is one tough schedule. There's one loss there, maybe even two.

And that is what gets me about Ohio State. I understand they can't do anything about conference games and the current weakness of the Big Ten right now; but I really have a hard time gauging just how good they are when I look at the creme puffs on that schedule (other than the Washington game).

Before it's all over, Ohio State could go undefeated and end up being ranked the #2 team in the nation and making it back into the title game and playing a team like LSU. It makes me shudder. Last year people were saying that Florida wasn't really that good. But I look at the conference they were in, and the head-to-head competition they were playing against (compared to who OSU was matched up against), and they were a darn solid football team.

I shudder at what the results could be if OSU makes it back into the championship game, because IMO, it's really hard to gauge how good/bad they really are. Could they end up getting exposed again?

MaineRed
10-07-2007, 09:00 AM
And what about those Bearcats?

Probably as overrated as any team in the country at this moment.

paintmered
10-07-2007, 09:03 AM
I shudder at what the results could be if OSU makes it back into the championship game, because IMO, it's really hard to gauge how good/bad they really are. Could they end up getting exposed again?

I think there's a real possibility of that happening this year. The Big 10 is down outside of Columbus and I don't see anyone providing much resistance to the Bucks outside of Michigan. And besides, a top 10 ranking has been the kiss of death so far this year to everyone except OSU, LSU and Cal. OSU might end up there by default.

They are a young team and seem to improve each week. But if they meet a team like LSU for the national championship, it will be another rout.

Degenerate39
10-07-2007, 09:22 AM
WVU should be in the top 10 now

MaineRed
10-07-2007, 09:28 AM
Despite the two losses I think Florida is one of the five best teams in the country. They will get pushed down the rankings though.

If USF is now the 5th best team then yes WVU does belong in the top ten.

LSU, Cal, Ohio State, BC, USF, Oklahoma, WVU, South Carolina, USC, Florida.

I don't see how Florida can be penalized for losing at the number one team. I really hope the pollsters can recognize that Flordia is better than teams that puff up their records with weak schedules.

Purdue represented those teams this week. They build up hype playing cupcakes then can't even compete for two minutes when a game vs a real opponent begins.

Hoosier Red
10-07-2007, 10:41 AM
It's not really fair to badger OSU about the strength of its schedule.
I heard it on sportstalk one sunday morning but it really makes sense.
The Big 11 teams have 4 non-conference games.
You should play 1 major BCS school.(Washington)
You should play 1 in state non BCS school(Akron)
You will play 1 FCS school(1-AA)(Youngstown State)

With that done, you've done all you can with your schedule. This leaves the possibility for a non-conference rivalry game, but of course you have to go on the road for that once every other year.
OSU in past years has played Texas, Notre Dame and I believe Tennessee in this game, but of course it takes two to tango for that.

This year the 4th non conference game is Kent State. This is probably a little bit of overkill on the MACrifices but again it's also nice to support the other 23 varsity sports by making sure you get your 110,000 in the horseshoe to watch the modern equivalent of Lions v. Christians.

Degenerate39
10-07-2007, 10:46 AM
When are the new polls going to be released?

OnBaseMachine
10-07-2007, 11:10 AM
I think Oregon deserves to be in the top ten. They have impressed me just as much anyone else in the country. Their offense is the most explosive offense in the country from what I have seen.

Unassisted
10-07-2007, 11:19 AM
When are the new polls going to be released?4:00 Eastern

MaineRed
10-07-2007, 12:44 PM
I think Oregon deserves to be in the top ten. They have impressed me just as much anyone else in the country. Their offense is the most explosive offense in the country from what I have seen.


The 55-31 win at Stanford looks a lot better on the resume, doesn't it?

You are probably correct, they are just as deserving of being up there as anyone else with one loss. They were beaten by what will now be the number two team in the country. Let me redo my rankings:

1. LSU
2. California
3. Ohio State
4. USF
5. Boston College
6. Oklahoma
7. South Carolina
8. West Virginia
9. Oregon
10. Should be Mizzou IMO. They provided Illinois with their only loss and this week they pounded Nebraska. Next week is there statement game, at Norman. Could see Virginia Tech in this spot as well. BC and Virginia Tech play in three weeks.

It will be interesting to see what pollsters do with Cincinnati. The only teams within ten spots of them who lost were Texas and Georgia.

WMR
10-07-2007, 01:01 PM
Probably as overrated as any team in the country at this moment.

Have they beaten or been beaten by anyone not on their schedule?

They've taken care of business so far and that's all you can ask of any team...

BuckeyeRed27
10-07-2007, 03:24 PM
LSU and Ohio State are the only teams that haven't lost yet that can play defense. Neither team should lose a game because of that reason.
I was really impressed with LSU last night. Florida is good on both sides of the ball and easily could have won. LSU executed very well and "got lucky" a couple times.
OSU has the best defense in the nation. They are just scary good. You can talk about the competition they have played all you want but they have give up 3 TDs all season and one of those was with 10 seconds left in a blow out last night. That's taking care of business. The offense has progressed every week with better up front blocking and Boeckman making better decisions and throws. I know he threw 3 picks last night but they were good plays on defense and none I considered "bad" throws.
Cal can't play defense and will lose. USF struggled with FAU and will lose. BC could potentially win out because the ACC is easily the worst conference in college football. I just don't see BC beating an OSU or LSU.

Reds Fanatic
10-07-2007, 04:21 PM
The new polls are out:


AP Top 25
1. LSU (65) 6-0 1,625
2. California 5-0 1,538
3. Ohio State 6-0 1,511
4. Boston College 6-0 1,346
5. South Florida 5-0 1,339
6. Oklahoma 5-1 1,221
7. South Carolina 5-1 1,183
8. West Virginia 5-1 1,059
9. Oregon 4-1 1,047
10. USC 4-1 1,024
11. Missouri 5-0 966
12. Virginia Tech 5-1 910
13. Florida 4-2 822
14. Arizona State 6-0 752
15. Cincinnati 6-0 705
16. Hawaii 6-0 634
17. Kentucky 5-1 612
18. Illinois 5-1 595
19. Wisconsin 5-1 551
20. Kansas 5-0 336
21. Florida State 4-1 307
22. Auburn 4-2 248
23. Texas 4-2 136
24. Georgia 4-2 131
25. Tennessee 3-2 90
Others Receiving Votes
Texas A&M 79, Purdue 48, Colorado 48, Indiana 40, Michigan 31, Texas Tech 27, Rutgers 25, Virginia 22, Connecticut 20, Kansas State 18, Boise State 17, Clemson 13, Penn State 13, Maryland 11, Alabama 9, Nebraska 9, Mississippi State 3, Washington 2, Wyoming 2.
Dropped From Rankings
Rutgers 21, Clemson 22, Purdue 23, Kansas State 24, Nebraska 25.


Complete Rankings
USA Today Poll
1. LSU (58) 6-0 1,498
2. California 5-0 1,416
3. Ohio State (2) 6-0 1,399
4. Boston College 6-0 1,283
5. Oklahoma 5-1 1,145
5. South Florida 5-0 1,145
7. USC 4-1 1,000
8. Oregon 4-1 936
9. West Virginia 5-1 931
10. Virginia Tech 5-1 913
11. Missouri 5-0 897
12. South Carolina 5-1 823
13. Arizona State 6-0 763
14. Florida 4-2 714
15. Wisconsin 5-1 689
16. Hawaii 6-0 632
17. Cincinnati 6-0 578
18. Kentucky 5-1 493
19. Illinois 5-1 425
20. Kansas 5-0 390
21. Florida State 4-1 213
22. Texas 4-2 195
23. Georgia 4-2 188
24. Purdue 5-1 149
25. Auburn 4-2 143
Others Receiving Votes
Virginia 67, Tennessee 60, Texas A&M 52, Texas Tech 44, Rutgers 44, Boise State 37, Connecticut 36, Indiana 30, Penn State 27, Michigan 22, Maryland 20, Wyoming 18, Clemson 16, Colorado 15, Wake Forest 12, Nebraska 10, Mississippi State 6, Brigham Young 6, Alabama 6, Kansas State 5, Stanford 4, Michigan State 3, UCLA 2.
Dropped From Rankings
Rutgers 21, Clemson 22, Nebraska 23, UCLA 25.

Blimpie
10-07-2007, 06:56 PM
Florida is one of the worst tackling teams I have seen in a while. Thanks to that, LSU will remain #1.Wow...I dunno which Florida players you might be referring to tonight, but I actually think they have one of the best tackling secondarys that I have seen in some time.

Even though Major Wright is a true Freshman, he is starting for and playing significant minutes for this extremely talented team. John Brantley broke many passing records at my nephew's high school football team in Ocala--yet, he played the majority of the snaps at CB last night during the second half. Time and time again, he made big plays stopping LSU for a loss or no gain.

I am not really prone to hyperbole, but I think Major Wright might be one of the most fundamentally sound tackling safeties that I have ever seen come through the SEC.

If you were being critical of their interior lineman or linebackers, please remember that LSU has an enormous line that can pancake most D-I players with relative ease.

Blimpie
10-07-2007, 06:59 PM
Neither South Carolina nor West Virginia have any business being ranked ahead of Missouri in these polls....

KronoRed
10-07-2007, 07:47 PM
I'm with you 100% Blimbie, but...

John Brantley broke many passing records at my nephew's high school football team in Ocala--yet, he played the majority of the snaps at CB last night during the second half. Time and time again, he made big plays stopping LSU for a loss or no gain.


That's not Brantley in the secondary, it's the other true freshman number 12 Joe Haden, someone in the stat office also made the mistake a few weeks back when they listed Brantley as having run a kickoff back..he's redshirting as far as I know

:)

Fil3232
10-07-2007, 08:06 PM
Wow...I dunno which Florida players you might be referring to tonight, but I actually think they have one of the best tackling secondarys that I have seen in some time.

Even though Major Wright is a true Freshman, he is starting for and playing significant minutes for this extremely talented team. John Brantley broke many passing records at my nephew's high school football team in Ocala--yet, he played the majority of the snaps at CB last night during the second half. Time and time again, he made big plays stopping LSU for a loss or no gain.

I am not really prone to hyperbole, but I think Major Wright might be one of the most fundamentally sound tackling safeties that I have ever seen come through the SEC.

If you were being critical of their interior lineman or linebackers, please remember that LSU has an enormous line that can pancake most D-I players with relative ease.

I'll second everything about Major Wright. He has made some plays over the last couple weeks that have honestly left me shaking my head. He is about as fearless of a safety as I have ever seen. He doesn't just tackle, he causes violent collisions. I'll be amazed if he is able to stay healthy for long periods of time with his style of play, but man, he might be my favorite player to watch in college football right now.

MaineRed
10-07-2007, 08:09 PM
Have they beaten or been beaten by anyone not on their schedule?

They've taken care of business so far and that's all you can ask of any team...

So in your book, anyone undefeated can't be considered overrated?

OnBaseMachine
10-07-2007, 08:34 PM
Wow...I dunno which Florida players you might be referring to tonight, but I actually think they have one of the best tackling secondarys that I have seen in some time.

Even though Major Wright is a true Freshman, he is starting for and playing significant minutes for this extremely talented team. John Brantley broke many passing records at my nephew's high school football team in Ocala--yet, he played the majority of the snaps at CB last night during the second half. Time and time again, he made big plays stopping LSU for a loss or no gain.

I am not really prone to hyperbole, but I think Major Wright might be one of the most fundamentally sound tackling safeties that I have ever seen come through the SEC.

If you were being critical of their interior lineman or linebackers, please remember that LSU has an enormous line that can pancake most D-I players with relative ease.

I'm not sure who it was but a couple Florida players missed some huge tackles on a couple of those 4th down conversions by LSU. That's mainly what I was referring to. I went a little overboard in calling them the worst I've seen, but they did miss some key tackles.

Blimpie
10-08-2007, 03:28 PM
I'm with you 100% Blimbie, but...


That's not Brantley in the secondary, it's the other true freshman number 12 Joe Haden, someone in the stat office also made the mistake a few weeks back when they listed Brantley as having run a kickoff back..he's redshirting as far as I know

:)Hmmm. Now I am really confused. If that was Joe Haden (#12) who was playing CB Saturday night versus LSU, then was Gary Danielson (CBS color commentator that night) also mistaken when he mentioned that #12 (Haden?) passed for over 7,700 yards as a high school QB in the state of Florida?

'Cause the kid I was thinking of (Brantley) was also a high school QB in Ocala who set a ton of state passing records. At least I thought it was the same Brantley?

It would be interesting if both of these freshman DBs were indeed record-setting high school QB last year....

I'm gonna call my nephew and get to the bottom of this post haste :cool:

KronoRed
10-08-2007, 04:24 PM
Haden did play QB in high school and threw for 7000 plus yards, but in Maryland

http://gatorzone.com/football/bios.php?year=2007&player_id=119

Sounds like Danielson was combining them :lol:

Blimpie
10-08-2007, 09:59 PM
Sounds like Danielson was combining them :lol:Well, I know I sure was...:D

Here is the kid that I knew about that was a Freshman and went to school with my nephew last year in Ocala:

http://gatorzone.com/football/bios.php?year=2007&player_id=127

Silly me. I knew the kid I was thinking of was white, but I was so caught up in the game that night, that I paid no attention to ethnicity at any time.

All I knew was that Brantley was listed as #12 on the Web site and that is the same number for the "freshman CB" who was making all of the nice plays the other night. Danielson kept referring to him as the "former high school QB who set all of the passing records" and the hijinx ensued....

Anyhow, his high school coach was none other than the "Throwin' Mayoan"--Kerwin Bell. This same Bell who just so happened to be my hero when he was the starting QB for Florida when I attended school there. Small world.

KronoRed
10-08-2007, 11:11 PM
Yep, duplicate numbers cause confusion :D

Bell is now the coach at Jacksonville U, moving on up.