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RBA
10-23-2007, 07:29 PM
The last few days have been bad. Fortunately I'm out of the path of fire for now. Just a whole lot of smoke for us. Anyone else in California having any problems?

Ltlabner
10-23-2007, 08:10 PM
What part of the state does Remdog live in?

Pretty wild footage of the fire on TV. I hope all the RZ family out there is safe.

vaticanplum
10-23-2007, 08:13 PM
I've been pretty fascinated by this:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=114250687465160386813.00043d08ac31fe3357571&ll=32.990236,-116.930237&spn=0.946815,1.842957&z=9&om=1

I was in LA a couple of weeks ago and was plagued by uncaracteristic anxiety the entire time. This would have thrown me over the edge, I'm terrified of fire. I don't know how all those folks deal with it -- such a fast-destroying, scary thing.

BuckeyeRed27
10-23-2007, 08:13 PM
I live in Santa Monica so we are pretty safe although its starting to smell with the Malibu fire so close.

Hope everyone is ok.

RBA
10-23-2007, 08:45 PM
What part of the state does Remdog live in?

Pretty wild footage of the fire on TV. I hope all the RZ family out there is safe.


He lives in Newport Beach. He's probably choking on a lot of smoke from the Santiago Canyon Fire.

Razor Shines
10-23-2007, 09:31 PM
My brother is in the Marine's boot camp in San Diego and I guess all of their out door "activities" have been canceled and they have to wear masks if they go outside, but I guess they don't have to evacuate yet. They're on alert though.

SunDeck
10-23-2007, 09:32 PM
My brother is a little northwest of Rem. He says the smoke is pretty thick but that there was no danger for them yet.

remdog
10-24-2007, 12:25 AM
Thanks for your concern, all. As RBA noted the Santiago Canyon fire is about 8-10 miles east of me and my only problem is with air quality (and the fine ash/soot/grit that is covering everything, including the insides of my home).

I'm actually more concerned about San Diego County at this time since that's where I go when I want a little R & R. Usually, Solana Beach, Cardiff-By-The Sea and Del Mar. All of those areas are threatened.

I thought of RBA but figured he was near Coronado so was most likely out of harm's way. When you think of close to 3/4 of a million people possibly evacuated from their homes in SD County the thought is staggering. That's like evacuating the city of San Francisco!

I heard a snippet of a conversation today at the mall: a young couple was walking with a youngster in a stroller and a young boy about 6 or 7 following behind. The father said, 'well, ya' all ready to go back to the hotel?' The six year old said, 'I don't want to go back to the hotel! I wanta' go home!' Dad replied, 'sorry big guy but we can't go home right now. It's either the hotel or the stadium.' (I took the term "stadium" to mean Qualcom Stadium.) Sad.

The thing that pisses me off the most is that the Santiago Canyon fire was arson. Set in 3 places, all with knowledge of wind, fuel and starting techniques, according to the police. Someone like that is a very sick, depraved person.

Worst part is that a few years ago they tracked down an arsonist in Glendale that was convicted of starting a number of fires over a twenty year period---he was an arson investigator for the Glendale Fire Department.

Rem

remdog
10-24-2007, 12:26 AM
My brother is a little northwest of Rem. He says the smoke is pretty thick but that there was no danger for them yet.

What city/area is your brother in Sun Deck?

Rem

RBA
10-24-2007, 12:39 AM
I thought of RBA but figured he was near Coronado so was most likely out of harm's way.
Rem

I actually only work on Coronado, but I live out near QualCom off the I-15. We are getting some smoke and ash, but the fires are a little ways and I believe we are in no danger here. However, I live on top of a hill that is covered in vegetation and all it takes some a-hole with a match and some wind and my (leased) house will be gone. I'm glad I got that renter's insurance awhile back.

NoCalRed
10-24-2007, 12:56 AM
Worst part is that a few years ago they tracked down an arsonist in Glendale that was convicted of starting a number of fires over a twenty year period---he was an arson investigator for the Glendale Fire Department.

I remember that didn't he start some fires up this way while on some kind of fire fighter convention?

This is one of the worst wild fires I can recall off the top of my head if not the worst. This reminds me of the Oakland firestorm back in 91 the hills were all torched and ash everywhere.

MWM
10-24-2007, 01:04 AM
My wife's family is San Diego just a few miles off the coast of Mission Bay. They're OK and probably will stay clear of the bad stuff. They do live right next to Tecolote Canyon, so if that somehow gets caught in the mix, they might be in danger.

Her brother is in Temecula which is just north of one of the evacuation areas.

I do know one person who has lost his home in this. Very sad.

Ravenlord
10-24-2007, 01:41 AM
I do know one person who has lost his home in this. Very sad.

ad do i. she's also certain she's lost her cat to the fire, as he is indoor/outdoor, and she hadn't seen him before evacuating.:(

SunDeck
10-24-2007, 07:12 AM
What city/area is your brother in Sun Deck?

Rem

Oops, I meant to say northeast....he's in Trabuco Canyon. Did I get that right?
He just moved there from Simi Valley a couple months ago and, not being familiar with the area, I keep getting the directions messed up.

He said he saw flames a couple miles away on his way to work yesterday and that his situation was much like your's. Ash and smoke, but no evacuation yet. He said they are ready to leave though.

remdog
10-24-2007, 08:05 AM
Sun Deck:

Sounds like your brother is pretty much due east of me and a bit closer to the fire which is kind of between us. It keeps moving so it's kind of hard to pinpoint it from hour to hour.

Here in Newport Beach the wind changed directions from an off-shore flow to an on-shore flow around 4 PM yesterday. That should lower temps and raise humidity, both of which are helpful. The danger (though it's not expected) is that a strong on-shore flow would push the fire eastward into un-burned area. The estimate is that it could take as long as 15 days to control the Santiago Canyon fire.

Rem

remdog
10-24-2007, 08:47 AM
It's often been said that California has no seasonality. That's not true. California has four sesons just like most parts of the country. It's just that ours are: Fire, flood, earthquake and mud. :lol:

Rem

SunDeck
10-24-2007, 09:53 AM
Sun Deck:

Sounds like your brother is pretty much due east of me and a bit closer to the fire which is kind of between us. It keeps moving so it's kind of hard to pinpoint it from hour to hour.

Here in Newport Beach the wind changed directions from an off-shore flow to an on-shore flow around 4 PM yesterday. That should lower temps and raise humidity, both of which are helpful. The danger (though it's not expected) is that a strong on-shore flow would push the fire eastward into un-burned area. The estimate is that it could take as long as 15 days to control the Santiago Canyon fire.

Rem

Got it- that must be the fire he saw on his way to work in Irvine.
Thanks!

westofyou
10-24-2007, 10:01 AM
Oddly this all occurs 16 years after the big Oakland Fire of 1991, those winds plus narrow streets and all that dry underbrush equals trouble in communities like Malibu and the like.

SunDeck
10-24-2007, 10:54 AM
The thing that pisses me off the most is that the Santiago Canyon fire was arson. Set in 3 places, all with knowledge of wind, fuel and starting techniques, according to the police. Someone like that is a very sick, depraved person.


Rem

This seems almost organized to me. Is there any speculation about that? I mean...that it might be something more than a crazy firefighter?
Gosh, I hate to suggest that.

NJReds
10-24-2007, 11:21 AM
This seems almost organized to me. Is there any speculation about that? I mean...that it might be something more than a crazy firefighter?
Gosh, I hate to suggest that.

Unfortunately, yes it's been discussed:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-07-11-alqaeda-fire_x.htm

registerthis
10-24-2007, 11:52 AM
My wife's cousin, her husband and their two children lost their home yesterday, we just learned. Fortunately everyone escaped with the family dog and pictures in tow, but what a tremendous loss for them. Sounded like most of their neighborhood was reduced to ashes.

remdog
10-24-2007, 12:52 PM
Oddly this all occurs 16 years after the big Oakland Fire of 1991, those winds plus narrow streets and all that dry underbrush equals trouble in communities like Malibu and the like.

That Oakland fire was very disastorous becasue it was in a very heavily residential area with narrow streets and, in many cases, the fire cut off exit routes. That was a very , very bad fire.

Rem

westofyou
10-24-2007, 12:56 PM
That Oakland fire was very disastorous becasue it was in a very heavily residential area with narrow streets and, in many cases, the fire cut off exit routes. That was a very , very bad fire.

Rem

Yep, my buddy's house was one of 5 on his street that survived that one, that area is now awash in mega homes that replaced the burned out ones.

remdog
10-24-2007, 12:59 PM
Sun Deck:

I'm currently watching live shots from Trabuco Canyon where the fire department set a backfire to burn out certain brush areas. At the same time they are doing water drops by helicopter to control the burn, apparently.

Rem

Rojo
10-24-2007, 01:06 PM
I'm safe in San Francisco. My folks and my brother live in SD. Their coastal, so ok so far. I have a friend in North County that I should check on.

On a lesser note, I work for an environmental organization that's been trying to protect steelhead trout in the region. Not many left, after the fire, maybe none at all.

KittyDuran
10-25-2007, 06:53 PM
From Trent's blog...


Thursday, October 25, 2007
Harang update

Rob Butcher has gotten in touch with Aaron Harang, who lives in the San Diego area. Harang, his wife and baby are fine, but have moved to a hotel just to be sure. There are fires around his house, but it is safe for now.

Ltlabner
10-25-2007, 08:06 PM
From Trent's blog...

Thanks for the update Kitty. I totally forgot that he lived out there.

GoReds33
10-25-2007, 08:27 PM
I really hope that Carson Palmer's family is OK. They said that he and his family have homes there. I also hope that if his house is to burn down that his Heisman trophy isn't in that house. He said it was in a box in his basement, but he didn't say which house.

remdog
10-26-2007, 12:55 AM
Brett Tomko was just on TV tonight reporting that, even though he had to evacuate to his parent's house and then they all had to evacuate his parent's house, both houses were spared.

However, he said that Dave Justice lost his house in San Diego County.

Rem

KittyDuran
10-26-2007, 05:40 AM
An update on Harang from Trent's blog...


UPDATE: Just talked to Aaron. He said he and his family are back at their home. The fires were as close as 10 miles away, when they left, but then they moved closer to where they'd gone up north. More than anything, he said, wasn't the threat of fire, but the air quality. He said when they returned home, you could see some cars covered in ash. As they drove they would drive on I-5 right next to the water and couldn't see the ocean, while the National Guard was driving down to go help out the people of San Diego.

He also said the response around town has been really uplifting, with people helping each other and all the people at Qualcom Stadium.

The Harangs are back at home and after a few restless days, feel better and the air is improving.

Aaron said he's talked to Mike Gosling too, because Mike also lives in Southern California and Mike is doing OK as well.

Aaron said to say thanks to all those who have asked about him and his family.

Blimpie
10-26-2007, 02:53 PM
On Monday, I am leaving to go work a one-week conference in Long Beach. It looks like that area has avoided much of the threat....