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edabbs44
10-29-2007, 02:13 PM
Jeffress fails another drug test
By Tom Haudricourt
Monday, Oct 29 2007, 11:16 AM
Denver - The Brewers won't confirm it on the record because it is a sensitive, internal issue, but apparently pitching prospect Jeremy Jeffress has failed another drug test.

Jeffress already is serving a 50-game suspension that carries well into the 2008 season for failing a drug test administered according to the Minor League Drug Treatment and Prevention program late in the '07 season. Players are suspended 50 games for a first offense, 100 games for a second and banned for life for a third failed test.

It was announced that Jeffress tested positive for a "drug of abuse." The specific drug was not identified by baseball but I've been told by people familiar with the situation that Jeffress has been caught using marijuana more than once.

The club-administered test that Jeffress failed during the fall instructional league program in Arizona does not fall under the auspices of the minor league drug program. Thus, it's up to the club to apply any disciplinary measures it feels is appropriate.

Asked about that situation Sunday before Game 4 of the World Series, Brewers general manager Doug Melvin said, "That's confidential."

Melvin did not deny that Jeffress failed a drug test. Instead, he said, "He is working with our EAP program."

The team's Employee Assistance Program is designed to help players with all sorts of problems, including drug use. Melvin said there had been no discussion yet as to whether the Brewers would add to the 50-game suspension already put into effect according to the minor league drug program.

Jeffress, 20, was the Brewers' first-round draft pick in 2006 out of high school in South Boston, Va. With a fastball that often approached 100 mph, he performed well at low Class A West Virginia this year, going 9-5 with a 3.13 ERA, with 95 strikeouts in 86 1/3 innings.

Because of Jeffress' apparent marijuana problem, his future with the Brewers remains clouded. He obviously is a very talented player with a high ceiling. But he has to decide if he wants to smoke pot or play baseball. You can't do both.

Love the bold print...wonder if that was a Freudian slip.


http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2007/10/29/jeffress-fails-another-drug-test.aspx

dougdirt
10-29-2007, 02:41 PM
Wow. What a moron.

RedsManRick
10-29-2007, 03:01 PM
He needs to learn from Ricky Williams. Make your millions and then choose pot over your career.

TOBTTReds
10-29-2007, 03:09 PM
linkage please?

edabbs44
10-29-2007, 03:22 PM
linkage please?

My bad...post has been edited with link.

dougdirt
10-29-2007, 03:26 PM
I just read somewhere else that since the test was administered by the Brewers, and not by MLB, that he is not looking at a 100 game suspension by MLB. Not sure the validity of that, but I am puting it out there.

TOBTTReds
10-29-2007, 06:03 PM
My bad...post has been edited with link.

thanks

edabbs44
10-29-2007, 08:07 PM
I just read somewhere else that since the test was administered by the Brewers, and not by MLB, that he is not looking at a 100 game suspension by MLB. Not sure the validity of that, but I am puting it out there.

Looks like it is valid, but it makes him no less of a dunce.

From rotoworld:


According to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, 2006 first-round pick Jeremy Jeffress failed a team-administered drug test, meaning he's not subject to a league suspension.

Superdude
10-29-2007, 09:31 PM
Let's trade Castro for him.

cincyinco
10-29-2007, 10:40 PM
what do they test? is it a UA or hair? I mean, if athletes can hide the steroids & HGH you would think they could hide the THC.

camisadelgolf
10-30-2007, 05:04 AM
At first, I thought this thread was going to be about a Reds prospect, Raymond Jeffords, because he threw 27 BBs in 23.2 IP. I think that's better control than Josh Ravin's, but I digress (too much).

dougdirt
10-30-2007, 07:32 AM
At first, I thought this thread was going to be about a Reds prospect, Raymond Jeffords, because he threw 27 BBs in 23.2 IP. I think that's better control than Josh Ravin's, but I digress (too much).

I am really interested to see how Ravin pitches next year. His control went from iffy last year to downright horrible this year.

eichstadtreds
10-30-2007, 10:44 PM
Wow. What a moron.

Look at Josh Hamilton, everyone loves him and I think everyone would agree Crack is a much bigger problem. Lets not throw a kid under the bus and call him a moron for a drug addiction. Lets hope he gets the proper help and then the Reds beat him around on the field.

dougdirt
10-31-2007, 07:34 AM
Look at Josh Hamilton, everyone loves him and I think everyone would agree Crack is a much bigger problem. Lets not throw a kid under the bus and call him a moron for a drug addiction. Lets hope he gets the proper help and then the Reds beat him around on the field.

And at the end of the day, Josh Hamilton was a moron for the decisions he made for a nice chunk of his life.

paulrichjr
10-31-2007, 10:26 AM
And at the end of the day, Josh Hamilton was a moron for the decisions he made for a nice chunk of his life.


Exactly... However him being a moron sure helped the Reds a ton. I'm not sure anyone can comprehend how good this Reds team can be with Hamilton, Bruce, and Dunn in the outfield. Wow!

dougdirt
10-31-2007, 10:47 AM
Exactly... However him being a moron sure helped the Reds a ton. I'm not sure anyone can comprehend how good this Reds team can be with Hamilton, Bruce, and Dunn in the outfield. Wow!

Right. Jeffress has a ton of talent in that arm of his. However, just like the rest of us, he has decisions to make that are going to play a large part of how his future is going to be spent. Right now, he is not making the right decisions that he needs to be making. While I think there is a large difference between what Jeffress was busted for and what Hamilton went through, illegal is illegal and against the rules is against the rules.

eichstadtreds
10-31-2007, 08:42 PM
And at the end of the day, Josh Hamilton was a moron for the decisions he made for a nice chunk of his life.

I agree to an extent, but drug addiction is a serious battle. Trying it the first time makes you a moron but getting addicted is a disease.

dougdirt
10-31-2007, 09:11 PM
I agree to an extent, but drug addiction is a serious battle. Trying it the first time makes you a moron but getting addicted is a disease.

I don't buy into marijuana being addictive. Never used it, but I know plenty of people who have and its not addictive to them. Crack on the other hand, is addictive. There is a large difference between the two things.

eichstadtreds
10-31-2007, 10:41 PM
I don't buy into marijuana being addictive. Never used it, but I know plenty of people who have and its not addictive to them. Crack on the other hand, is addictive. There is a large difference between the two things.

I believe all drugs are addictive rather it be marijuana or crack. You can become addicted to any substance. I believe a drug addict should be helped and not ridiculed. Myself or you not being addicted really dont know what either one went through and is going through. With all that being said I respect your opinion and love your site. It is a great place for reds minor league news.

dougdirt
10-31-2007, 11:01 PM
I believe all drugs are addictive rather it be marijuana or crack. You can become addicted to any substance. I believe a drug addict should be helped and not ridiculed. Myself or you not being addicted really dont know what either one went through and is going through. With all that being said I respect your opinion and love your site. It is a great place for reds minor league news.

My best friends sister is a crack addict. There is a large difference between someone addicted to that and someone who smokes pot. I had an uncle who died of an OD about 4 years ago from about everything under the sun.... I hope that some people don't ever have to deal with things like that in their life, but if anyone has ever been around the situation with someone on real drugs, there is a large difference between the addiction of marijuana and other 'drugs'.

eichstadtreds
11-01-2007, 12:34 AM
My best friends sister is a crack addict. There is a large difference between someone addicted to that and someone who smokes pot. I had an uncle who died of an OD about 4 years ago from about everything under the sun.... I hope that some people don't ever have to deal with things like that in their life, but if anyone has ever been around the situation with someone on real drugs, there is a large difference between the addiction of marijuana and other 'drugs'.

That we can agree on. The kid has a lot of talent, but im near his age and temptation is high. I would also venture to guess a kid with that much money and star power has a higher temptation because of the so called groupies. I don't know your age but peer pressure is tough at that age.

dougdirt
11-01-2007, 07:24 AM
That we can agree on. The kid has a lot of talent, but im near his age and temptation is high. I would also venture to guess a kid with that much money and star power has a higher temptation because of the so called groupies. I don't know your age but peer pressure is tough at that age.

I am 23.... so I have 4 years on him, not a whole lot really. Peer Pressure is only as tough as you make it.

camisadelgolf
11-01-2007, 01:43 PM
Marijuana is addictive, but it is rare for it to be physically addictive in a way similar to crack. The question is why Jeffress continues to resort to marijuana--there is always a direct connection between anxiety and behavior like that.

Cedric
11-02-2007, 11:17 AM
Marijuana is addictive, but it is rare for it to be physically addictive in a way similar to crack. The question is why Jeffress continues to resort to marijuana--there is always a direct connection between anxiety and behavior like that.

Smoking pot and anxiety? Smoking pot creates anxiety and paranoia sometimes. He might continue to resort to marijuana because he believes he can beat the system. He might resort to marijuana because he just doesn't care. Nobody knows. Anxiety or mental illness is not the reason most people smoke pot, IMO.

The_jbh
11-15-2007, 03:42 PM
Look at Josh Hamilton, everyone loves him and I think everyone would agree Crack is a much bigger problem. Lets not throw a kid under the bus and call him a moron for a drug addiction. Lets hope he gets the proper help and then the Reds beat him around on the field.

I love Josh Hamilton... I still think he is a moron for getting into drugs in the first place...

Drugs is a life style choice that can ruin all the gifts you received. You are going to have a hard time telling me not to think someone is a moron for getting mixed up in the first place. I hope Jefferess works it out, but for now, he has made some very ill advised decisons.

eichstadtreds
11-15-2007, 08:23 PM
I love Josh Hamilton... I still think he is a moron for getting into drugs in the first place...

Drugs is a life style choice that can ruin all the gifts you received. You are going to have a hard time telling me not to think someone is a moron for getting mixed up in the first place. I hope Jefferess works it out, but for now, he has made some very ill advised decisons.

The world is full of drug addicts and not all our morons. Some good people get mixed up in the wrong things. It's not the life i have chosen, but everyone makes mistakes. Some mistakes are bigger than others. I'm not one too judge people because their is someone more imortant than me doing that.

dougdirt
11-15-2007, 08:26 PM
Making the decision to do drugs, makes you a moron in my opinion. Its a bad decision on several levels. I get that people make mistakes, but I will be one to judge people based on the decisions that they make when it comes to choosing to use drugs.

eichstadtreds
11-15-2007, 10:34 PM
Making the decision to do drugs, makes you a moron in my opinion. Its a bad decision on several levels. I get that people make mistakes, but I will be one to judge people based on the decisions that they make when it comes to choosing to use drugs.

Thats the beauty about life we all have our own opinions. I don't agree all drug addicts are morons rather people who made the wrong choice. I can see nothing i say will change your opinion and nothing you say will change mine.