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WMR
02-13-2008, 02:58 PM
This is from the kentucky ink message board:

I was at the game last night, and was down close to the floor watching the Cats warm up and noticed that the roof at Memorial Gym was leaking. Then during the game I noticed players slipping in under the basket. At what point does the SEC come in and tell a school that if they don't make things safer in there gym there won't be games held there? That place has got to be one of the worst places to watch a game in all of sports! With that said, Vandy is a very good team that put a good ole' ass whoopin on us last night.

WMR
02-13-2008, 02:59 PM
http://www.kentuckyink.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=150&topic=8705.0

dabvu2498
02-13-2008, 03:01 PM
I dunno... he has been extremely clutch this season.

Bradley's clutch = 12-10. SEC POY? Not a chance.

dabvu2498
02-13-2008, 03:06 PM
http://www.kentuckyink.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=150&topic=8705.0

A leak in the floor caused it, eh? :)

I thought it was the officials... http://kentucky.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1383&tid=111129514&mid=111129514&sid=888&style=2

WMR
02-13-2008, 03:08 PM
A leak in the floor caused it, eh? :)

I thought it was the officials... http://kentucky.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1383&tid=111129514&mid=111129514&sid=888&style=2

I'm not, nor have I ever once, said anything besides Vandy kicked our butt.

I'm just saying fix the damn leaks in your gym.

dabvu2498
02-13-2008, 03:20 PM
I'm not, nor have I ever once, said anything besides Vandy kicked our butt.

I'm just saying fix the damn leaks in your gym.
I know... I just like rubbing salt in the wounds. I've had it done to me plenty. Remember who I'm married to. It's all in fun. Nonetheless, I can safely say I've never blamed a leaky roof.

I can't get to your link and I'm not going to register there. That is the only place I've heard there were leaks. Nothing mentioned on the broadcast... I've talked to three of my guys who were there, no mention of leaks. Nothing in the papers, either. Curious.

WMR
02-13-2008, 03:22 PM
Oh I know you're just busting balls. I enjoy doing it too. All in good fun.

It's just too bad they don't hang banners for UK butt whoopins.

dabvu2498
02-13-2008, 03:35 PM
Oh I know you're just busting balls. I enjoy doing it too. All in good fun.

It's just too bad they don't hang banners for UK butt whoopins.

S'alright. I know who's been to more Sweet 16s in the past few years.

WMR
02-13-2008, 03:40 PM
S'alright. I know who's been to more Sweet 16s in the past few years.
:cool:

# Kentucky leads the series 130-42. The Wildcats are 65-28 in Nashville and 40-24 in Memorial Gymnasium.

# UK is 141-41 against SEC East teams since the split in 1992.
:cool:

http://www.ukathletics.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=37&url_article_id=21504&change_well_id=2

dabvu2498
02-13-2008, 03:46 PM
:cool:

# Kentucky leads the series 130-42. The Wildcats are 65-28 in Nashville and 40-24 in Memorial Gymnasium.

# UK is 141-41 against SEC East teams since the split in 1992.
:cool:

http://www.ukathletics.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=37&url_article_id=21504&change_well_id=2

S'alright. I know who's been to more Sweet 16s in the past few years.

I'm a one trick pony. Yo.

WMR
02-13-2008, 03:47 PM
S'alright. I know who's been to more Sweet 16s in the past few years.

I'm a one trick pony. Yo.

Basketball MECCA for a Vandy fan: Making the Sweet 16.

There is no higher aspiration.

WVRed
02-13-2008, 03:59 PM
Kind of a good laugh I read on the IU scout board over Sampson. Somebody posted Gillispie as a candidate, but they didn't want him because of his actions(being a drunk, sleeping with Alex Legion's girlfriend)

The last one is news to me, btw.

dabvu2498
02-13-2008, 04:06 PM
Basketball MECCA for a Vandy fan: Making the Sweet 16.

There is no higher aspiration.

Oh sure there are. All 341 teams start the season thinking about the Final 4.

Being one of the final 16, however, is pretty damn good. UK fans seem to forget that sometimes.

Course, they may have to forget what it feels like to make the Sweet 16 for a while. :D

WMR
02-13-2008, 04:07 PM
Oh sure there are. All 341 teams start the season thinking about the Final 4.

Being one of the final 16, however, is pretty damn good. UK fans seem to forget that sometimes.

Course, they may have to forget what it feels like to make the Sweet 16 for a while. :D

Hey we're in our longest drought in school history from having made the Final Four!!!!!! :( :( :(

How long is Vandy's Final Four drought? :devil:

dabvu2498
02-13-2008, 04:11 PM
Hey we're in our longest drought in school history from having made the Final Four!!!!!! :( :( :(

How long is Vandy's Final Four drought? :devil:

I know how long our Sweet 16 drought is. And I know how long UK's is.

WMR
02-13-2008, 04:12 PM
I know how long our Sweet 16 drought is. And I know how long UK's is.

I was asking about Final Fours...

dabvu2498
02-13-2008, 04:20 PM
I was asking about Final Fours...

Oh... I know the answer... and so do you.

I could always resort back to Vandy chants of old...

"S-A-T S-A-T" or "That's alright, that's ok, you're gonna work for us someday!"

I prefer what the Vandy students had to work with last night, though:


"Nelter's winning! Neltner's winning!" when Ross Neltner, the Commodore senior and former Kentucky Mr. Basketball has 15 points and your team has 14
http://www.kentucky.com/276/story/316619.html

Sea Ray
02-13-2008, 04:26 PM
Nelter's winning! Neltner's winning!" when Ross Neltner, the Commodore senior and former Kentucky Mr. Basketball has 15 points and your team has 14

Tennessee's Chris Lofton is a senior and was a former Kentucky Mr Basketball. How many Mr Basketballs are there in Ky?

dabvu2498
02-13-2008, 04:29 PM
Tennessee's Chris Lofton is a senior and was a former Kentucky Mr Basketball. How many Mr Basketballs are there in Ky?

Neltner had to sit out a year after transferring from LSU.

Sea Ray
02-13-2008, 04:30 PM
Neltner had to sit out a year after transferring from LSU.

OK. Second question is how many Mr Basketball players does Ky hand over to other sschools from out of state?

Sea Ray
02-13-2008, 04:31 PM
OK. Second question is how many Mr Basketball players does Ky hand over to other schools from out of state?

dabvu2498
02-13-2008, 04:33 PM
OK. Second question is how many Mr Basketball players does Ky hand over to other schools from out of state?

They got Brandon Stockton and Josh Carrier!!! :D

Actually, the last few years, the list hasn't been that distinguished. (Except for Lofton.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_%22Mr._Basketball%22

WMR
02-13-2008, 04:57 PM
Can't really fault UK for Lofton, either.

Everyone Tubby recruited over Lofton was much more highly regarded.

UK will be getting the best Mr. Basketball in a decade when Darius Miller sets foot on campus next season.

Javy Pornstache
02-13-2008, 08:45 PM
^^^ I don't know Wily, I'm pretty sure Adam Williams got a schoalarship the year Lofton was denied. I was pretty peeved about it at the time and still am. "Adam Williams who?" Exactly. The same Adam Williams who transferred to Marshall where as a senior, I think he averages like 0.2 ppg. :)

WVRed
02-14-2008, 12:32 AM
Can't really fault UK for Lofton, either.

Everyone Tubby recruited over Lofton was much more highly regarded.

UK will be getting the best Mr. Basketball in a decade when Darius Miller sets foot on campus next season.

Some Tubby mistakes I can't forgive so easily. Lofton is one of them, but saying Corey Brewer wasn't an SEC caliber player.:confused:

WMR
02-16-2008, 04:44 PM
AWESOME win by the Cats this afternoon.

Sea Ray
02-16-2008, 05:11 PM
Nice bounceback win for them. LSU is not as bad as their record. I think it looks good for an NCAA tournament bid and that's not bad considering it's a down year. Of course they have to keep playing like they did today and not give us another stinker but I think they will play well enough to earn a tournament bid.

jmac
02-16-2008, 06:45 PM
AWESOME win by the Cats this afternoon.

I was wondering how they would respond to the Vandy debacle.
They did well !!

jmac
02-16-2008, 06:47 PM
I missed most of the second half and seen in the boxscore where Meeks played only 12 minutes after hitting those 2 three's in the first half.
Did he hurt himself again or was it just Billy G's choice ?

durl
02-16-2008, 09:52 PM
Good win, I agree. LSU is a scrappy team that looks like they're trying to prove something after their coach was let go. I applaud the Cats for getting their heads together and getting the win.

cumberlandreds
02-17-2008, 12:07 AM
I missed most of the second half and seen in the boxscore where Meeks played only 12 minutes after hitting those 2 three's in the first half.
Did he hurt himself again or was it just Billy G's choice ?

BG said it was his choice not to play him. He didn't substitute anyone in the 2nd half. I think he just felt comfortable with the five he had out there. But also I don't think Meeks is anywhere near 100% and his play will probably be limited the rest of the season.


http://johnclay.typepad.com/sidelines/

jmac
02-17-2008, 11:01 AM
BG said it was his choice not to play him. He didn't substitute anyone in the 2nd half. I think he just felt comfortable with the five he had out there. But also I don't think Meeks is anywhere near 100% and his play will probably be limited the rest of the season.


http://johnclay.typepad.com/sidelines/
Thanks for info !

WVRed
02-18-2008, 12:42 PM
Don't know if anybody has been following recruiting lately, but Renardo Sidney has Kentucky ranked high on his list.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2007369

In addition, Kentucky is in the lead for DeMarcus Cousins and John Wall. If Gillispie could somehow get Jon Hood and pull this class off, they will be set for a title run in 2010 after K.C. Ross Miller and Dakotah Euton arrive.

WMR
02-18-2008, 01:19 PM
I WANT DEMARCUS COUSINS IN BLUE SOOOOOOO BAD

Kid is a straight up PTP-ER BABYYYYYYY :D

WMR
02-18-2008, 01:19 PM
This Scotty Hopson "drama" is something to behold.

dabvu2498
02-18-2008, 01:26 PM
This Scotty Hopson "drama" is something to behold.

What's up with Hopson, Wily?

WMR
02-18-2008, 01:33 PM
What's up with Hopson, Wily?

Wellll.... let's see...

He was initially committed to MSU...

it became clear he was going to re-open his recruitment although he never actually said it...

Bruce Pearl, being the man and coach that he is, had no problems recruiting Scotty even though he was technically still committed to MSU...

Billy Clyde came out and made a public statement that he does not believe in recruiting players that are officially committed to other schools...

VOILA: 2 days or so later, Scotty officially announces that he is re-opening his recruitment...

He's the best basketball prospect to come out of the state of KY in a l o n g time.

Billy is now recruiting him...

WMR
02-18-2008, 01:41 PM
Mike Williams didn't travel with the team this past Saturday ...

some reports that he has been suspended.

He's the one I'd lay money on to transfer after this season. He clearly doesn't fit into Billy's plans for the Cats.

dabvu2498
02-18-2008, 01:43 PM
From what I heard, UK assistants had been at several UHA games throughout the year, even though Hopson had verballed to Miss St. UHA got someone else worth recruiting to UK or is Billy's "I wouldn't do it" act a little thin?

WMR
02-18-2008, 01:45 PM
From what I heard, UK assistants had been at several UHA games throughout the year, even though Hopson had verballed to Miss St. UHA got someone else worth recruiting to UK or is Billy's "I wouldn't do it" act a little thin?

I honestly don't know...

the way Billy handled the DeAndre Jordan situation gives him the benefit of the doubt in my book, however.

dabvu2498
02-18-2008, 01:48 PM
My source: http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/labels/Scotty%20Hopson.html

WMR
02-18-2008, 01:51 PM
So you equate going to a ballgame as recruiting? :confused:

dabvu2498
02-18-2008, 01:54 PM
So you equate going to a ballgame as recruiting? :confused:

Absolutely!!! I don't imagine that Cyprien and Cox were going to these games just to catch a game.

And I bet if you looked at UK's recruiting budget, you'd see travel expenses to those ballgames for those assistants.

WMR
02-18-2008, 01:56 PM
Recruiting isn't watching a game. Recruiting occurs when there is actual contact between a coach and a player.

Scouting? Yes. They were scouting players they were interested in POTENTIALLY recruiting. Big difference.

dabvu2498
02-18-2008, 02:07 PM
Recruiting isn't watching a game. Recruiting occurs when there is actual contact between a coach and a player.

Scouting? Yes. They were scouting players they were interested in POTENTIALLY recruiting. Big difference.

Somehow I doubt that they sat in the last row with their notebooks jotting down scouting info. I dare say they were there to been seen first and foremost.

Want to scout a player? Get tape, watch it at the office, save money. Want to get to get seen? Go to a game.

Come on Wily... isn't that what Happy did with you? :D

WMR
02-18-2008, 02:10 PM
Hehehe ... I know you and Happy are best buds!

You don't think there are things about a player that simply don't translate well to tape? I do.

I don't think "saving money" is an issue for the recruiting/scouting department at UK. Now if we were talking Vandy? Sure. ;)

Do I think the "visibility factor" plays a role? Sure I do. But I still don't label it as recruiting, and neither does the NCAA.

dabvu2498
02-18-2008, 02:13 PM
Do I think the "visibility factor" plays a role? Sure I do. But I still don't label it as recruiting, and neither does the NCAA.

Sorta, but not really... Check out the far right hand column.

http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/membership_svcs/recruiting_calendars/2007-08/mens_basketball.pdf


Not more than seven recruiting opportunities (contacts and evaluations combined) during the academic year per prospect.

The NCAA knows those "evaluations" are really about facetime.

WMR
02-18-2008, 03:01 PM
What if there are two players on the same team? Do they then get 14 visits?

joshnky
02-18-2008, 03:37 PM
UK will be getting the best Mr. Basketball in a decade when Darius Miller sets foot on campus next season.


VOILA: 2 days or so later, Scotty officially announces that he is re-opening his recruitment...

He's the best basketball prospect to come out of the state of KY in a l o n g time.

Billy is now recruiting him...

Wily, you really have a thing for hyperbole don't you? ;)

Regardless, Hopson would certainly be a great pickup to go along with Miller but like dab I don't buy the whole "I don't recruit committed players" line. Even if they didn't talk to Hopson, the fact that they went to his games let him know UK was interested.

Not to bash Billy G. I think it happens to some degree at every school.

WMR
02-18-2008, 03:39 PM
As much as it might look like I contradicted myself, I truly wasn't...

Miller has already all but won the Mr. Basketball award even though he's not as good a bball prospect as Scotty Hopson. Weird, huh?

dabvu2498
02-18-2008, 04:24 PM
What if there are two players on the same team? Do they then get 14 visits?

I dunno, but knowing the NCAA, I doubt it.

WVRed
02-18-2008, 08:03 PM
As much as it might look like I contradicted myself, I truly wasn't...

Miller has already all but won the Mr. Basketball award even though he's not as good a bball prospect as Scotty Hopson. Weird, huh?

Miller is more polished but his upside isn't going to be much higher. Hopson has more raw talent, but he hasn't fully reached his potential.

BTW, I would love to get Cousins as much as anybody, but Sidney is supposedly better. I'd like to get both though.:)

WMR
02-18-2008, 08:07 PM
Nice to have a coach who hits the recruiting trail as hard or harder than anybody else in America, huh?

BRM
02-20-2008, 10:41 AM
Where's the excitement over last night's win? Beating Georgia is just too easy, huh? :)

WMR
02-20-2008, 03:21 PM
It was a nice win... ugly, but nice.

I hate Dave Bliss. Perhaps the biggest thug in the SEC.

Glad to end his career versus UK with 2 losses... hell, I hope we play them again in the SEC tournament so we can give him a third.

durl
02-20-2008, 03:45 PM
Near the end of the game, the run-in Bliss had with Bradley did appear to be completely accidental. Still, the guy seems to enjoy banging into UK players, doesn't he?

Two games: a concussion for one player and stitches for another. Maybe he's going for a career in Ultimate Fighting. ;)

joshnky
02-21-2008, 06:19 PM
Don't know if anybody has been following recruiting lately, but Renardo Sidney has Kentucky ranked high on his list.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2007369

In addition, Kentucky is in the lead for DeMarcus Cousins and John Wall. If Gillispie could somehow get Jon Hood and pull this class off, they will be set for a title run in 2010 after K.C. Ross Miller and Dakotah Euton arrive.

You might not want to get your hopes up too far. By comparison Rivals doesn't even have UK listed for Sidney and has them labeled as "Low" for Cousins and "Medium" for Wall. I'm inclined to believe Rivals over Scout seeing how Scout has Louisville listed as "High" for Lance Stephenson and they gave up on him in the fall.

WVRed
02-21-2008, 10:11 PM
You might not want to get your hopes up too far. By comparison Rivals doesn't even have UK listed for Sidney and has them labeled as "Low" for Cousins and "Medium" for Wall. I'm inclined to believe Rivals over Scout seeing how Scout has Louisville listed as "High" for Lance Stephenson and they gave up on him in the fall.

Only problem with Scout is updating certain players. The updates for Sidney and Cousins are recent, whereas Stephenson I doubt has been updated in forever.

BTW, has Louisville given up on Tyreke Evans yet? I heard he is all but a lock to replace Derrick Rose next year at Memphis.

joshnky
02-22-2008, 06:41 AM
Only problem with Scout is updating certain players. The updates for Sidney and Cousins are recent, whereas Stephenson I doubt has been updated in forever.

BTW, has Louisville given up on Tyreke Evans yet? I heard he is all but a lock to replace Derrick Rose next year at Memphis.

Yeah, I believe they've dropped out of the race. There are rumors that Pitino is upset with some of Calipari's methods in this recruitment but I don't know if they have any substance.

WVRed
02-22-2008, 09:00 AM
Yeah, I believe they've dropped out of the race. There are rumors that Pitino is upset with some of Calipari's methods in this recruitment but I don't know if they have any substance.

I think Louisville is better off. Everything I have heard is that he is a headcase.

joshnky
02-22-2008, 10:54 AM
I think Louisville is better off. Everything I have heard is that he is a headcase.

That could be but they certainly could use an elite scoring guard which Evans seems to be.

WMR
02-24-2008, 04:40 PM
I gotta give major props to my man George Foster for taking me with him to the Arkansas game this past Saturday at Rupp. AWESOME SEATS. What an awesome game to be at, as well. Very important win for the Cats as they hopefully finish off that 12-4 conference record and sew up an invitation to the big dance.

cumberlandreds
02-24-2008, 04:45 PM
Arkansas was a huge win to get back into position to be on the bubble. Next is a struggling Ole Miss team who won't be easy but should be a win. Then UT next Sunday. I don't won't think about that one.

WVRed
02-24-2008, 09:13 PM
BTW, I hope that if Gillispie moves on that Pelphrey will one day coach at Kentucky, but I had to do this...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/John_Pelphrey_headshot.jpg

http://povonline.com/images3/shaggy.jpg

jmac
02-25-2008, 05:12 PM
With 4 games to go in the SEC season, Billy G has equaled Tubby's league win total from last year (9-7).

WMR
02-25-2008, 05:15 PM
With 4 games to go in the SEC season, Billy G has equaled Tubby's league win total from last year (9-7).

SHHHHHHHHHH

Do you want Dukie V to put you in a suplex?????????

Tubby won 20 games every year, DON'T YA KNOW???? :rolleyes:

BRM
02-25-2008, 05:44 PM
SHHHHHHHHHH

Do you want Dukie V to put you in a suplex?????????

Tubby won 20 games every year, DON'T YA KNOW???? :rolleyes:

Well, he did...

WMR
02-25-2008, 05:46 PM
Well, he did...

And that's what means a coach is successful.

Might as well go with Daugherty and his "judging pitchers by win-loss" method.

BRM
02-25-2008, 05:47 PM
And that's what means a coach is successful.


I didn't say that.

WMR
02-25-2008, 05:47 PM
I didn't say that.

:angry:

BRM
02-25-2008, 05:48 PM
:angry:

You're so easy to get riled up. All I have to do is pretend to defend Tubby and you're on it! ;)

WMR
02-25-2008, 05:50 PM
You're so easy to get riled up. All I have to do is pretend to defend Tubby and you're on it! ;)

Hehehehehe... I'm just waiting for the next time an IU fan comes at me with the "holier than thou, our program is squeaky clean" argument.

BRM
02-25-2008, 05:51 PM
Hehehehehe... I'm just waiting for the next time an IU fan comes at me with the "holier than thou, our program is squeaky clean" argument.

I don't think you have to worry about hearing that one now. Thanks Kelvin.

WMR
02-25-2008, 05:52 PM
I don't think you have to worry about hearing that one now. Thanks Kelvin.

Poor fella. ;)

I am now very interested to observe the rest of Indiana's season, that's for sure.

BRM
02-26-2008, 09:28 AM
Poor fella. ;)

I am now very interested to observe the rest of Indiana's season, that's for sure.

And offseason. I'll be following the progress of the coaching staff (whoever it is) to see how successful they are at keeping the current players as well as the 2008 players who have committed.

flyer85
02-26-2008, 01:48 PM
From Seth Davis at SI.com


I hate to disappoint Kentucky fans, who have every reason to be excited about their team's run of eight wins in its last nine games, but I'm hearing Patrick Patterson is seriously considering turning pro.

dabvu2498
02-26-2008, 01:54 PM
From Seth Davis at SI.com

Man, I think that would be a bad move for him. Just MHO, of course.

TeamSelig
02-26-2008, 02:28 PM
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

BRM
02-26-2008, 02:29 PM
My guess here is that Seth Davis' source is wrong.

minus5
02-26-2008, 02:32 PM
I gotta give major props to my man George Foster for taking me with him to the Arkansas game this past Saturday at Rupp. AWESOME SEATS.

AH-HA!! That explains your head not exploding when CBS switched to the Duke game with 58 seconds or so remaining in the Kentucky game! Mine did.

durl
02-26-2008, 02:40 PM
From Seth Davis at SI.com

Patterson has said, Im not going anywhere. Kentucky is where I want to be.

I grabbed the quote from a Paintsville newspaper's website but I believe I actually saw it first on Kentucky.com.

WMR
02-26-2008, 02:58 PM
AH-HA!! That explains your head not exploding when CBS switched to the Duke game with 58 seconds or so remaining in the Kentucky game! Mine did.

Oh my god, yeah, I heard about that!!!! YEAH, my head would have hit the roof if I had been watching it on CBS. UTTER BULL. And of course the game that they switched to just had to be DOOK.

minus5
02-26-2008, 03:09 PM
Oh my god, yeah, I heard about that!!!! YEAH, my head would have hit the roof if I had been watching it on CBS. UTTER BULL. And of course the game that they switched to just had to be DOOK.

Honestly, the first place I went when they switched was here to this thread to see what you were saying about it. :D Luckily they switched back so I could catch the very end. Their switchboard must have lit up like a Christmas tree from livid Cats fans.

BRM
02-26-2008, 03:11 PM
Honestly, the first place I went when they switched was here to this thread to see what you were saying about it. :D

So, WMR has a reputation of being opinionated and vocal. Shocking.

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:13 PM
Honestly, the first place I went when they switched was here to this thread to see what you were saying about it. :D Luckily they switched back so I could catch the very end. Their switchboard must have lit up like a Christmas tree from livid Cats fans.

Hehehehehehe, you can bet I'd have said something if I hadn't been at the game, bud. lol.

I bet it did, and rightly so. No excuse for a mistake like that out of CBS.

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:15 PM
So, WMR has a reputation of being opinionated and vocal. Shocking.

@#$%

:angry:

:rant:

:bash:

:owned:

:censored:

BRM
02-26-2008, 03:17 PM
You love proving my point, don't you?

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:22 PM
:censored:

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:23 PM
If only this wasn't a "Family Friendly Board," then you'd really get to see your point proven. heh.

BRM
02-26-2008, 03:24 PM
You crack me up.

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:25 PM
You crack me up.

hehe... Like I said in the "no cussing" thread, I tailor my language to my surroundings.

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:26 PM
BTW: I think PPatt would be doing his future career a huge disservice by leaving after only 1 year. He still has a lot of aspects of his game that he needs to work on. There's no way that he'll play the 5 in the NBA and he'll be going up against larger PFs just about every night in the Association.

BRM
02-26-2008, 03:27 PM
I agree with you. I don't think he's going anywhere personally.

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:29 PM
Me either. But you can bet Seth Davis got a nice little bump in traffic to his site from panicked UK fans (and from hopeful SEC fans from elsewhere in the conference).

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:29 PM
BTW: I *REALLY* hate these "I heard" rumors started by talking heads.

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:30 PM
Dab: What's going to happen with yours boys tonight?

BRM
02-26-2008, 03:31 PM
Me either. But you can bet Seth Davis got a nice little bump in traffic to his site from panicked UK fans (and from hopeful SEC fans from elsewhere in the conference).

I'm sure he did. I bet some colorful language was thrown his way.

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:32 PM
I'm sure he did. I bet some colorful language was thrown his way.

And I bet almost none of it was grammatically correct. :lol:

BRM
02-26-2008, 03:36 PM
Tennesse plays Vandy tonight, right?

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:37 PM
Tennesse plays Vandy tonight, right?

Yup, in Nashville.

And you guys play OSU, right?

dabvu2498
02-26-2008, 03:37 PM
Dab: What's going to happen with yours boys tonight?

:dunno:

They're going to play the #1 team in the country? Or were you looking for something more insightful? :D

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:38 PM
:dunno:

They're going to play the #1 team in the country? Or were you looking for something more insightful? :D

Hell yeah, I'm looking for a prediction and a detailed breakdown of what I should be looking for tonight.

BRM
02-26-2008, 03:40 PM
Yup, in Nashville.

And you guys play OSU, right?

In Bloomington.

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:42 PM
In Bloomington.

Should beat 'em I would think.

BRM
02-26-2008, 03:42 PM
Tennessee/Vandy is the late game on ESPN. Sweet.

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:43 PM
Tennessee/Vandy is the late game on ESPN. Sweet.

Yep, as a UK fan, I'm a bit torn on who I want to win this game... UT winning would give UK a bigger cushion towards winning 2nd in the SEC East and securing the first round bye... Vandy beating UT would give UK a legitimate chance to win the SEC East if they were able to go into Knoxville and beat UT (a difficult task, I know).

BRM
02-26-2008, 03:43 PM
Should beat 'em I would think.

The game being at home means the Hoosiers should win. Plus, the Buckeyes are struggling a bit.

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:44 PM
The game being at home means the Hoosiers should win. Plus, the Buckeyes are struggling a bit.

Woohoo, you made your 6,000 post in the UK thread. You must feel quite honored. Please, say a few words.

BRM
02-26-2008, 03:45 PM
Yep, as a UK fan, I'm a bit torn on who I want to win this game... UT winning would give UK a bigger cushion towards winning 2nd in the SEC East and securing the first round bye... Vandy beating UT would give UK a legitimate chance to win the SEC East if they were able to go into Knoxville and beat UT (a difficult task, I know).

As an IU fan, I don't care who wins this game. ;)

I just want to see good basketball and I expect this game will deliver.

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:45 PM
As an IU fan, I don't care who wins this game. ;)

I just want to see good basketball and I expect this game will deliver.

Yep, Vandy has a hell of a home court advantage with that screwed up court as well.

BRM
02-26-2008, 03:46 PM
Woohoo, you made your 6,000 post in the UK thread. You must feel quite honored. Please, say a few words.

Honored? I feel ill....

dabvu2498
02-26-2008, 03:47 PM
Hell yeah, I'm looking for a prediction and a detailed breakdown of what I should be looking for tonight.

I don't do predictions.

All I know is that I'm so pissed I can't go.

I was in Memorial the last two times they played #1 and they won both games. I fear I may hex them by not being there.

I know this -- Pearl said on a radio soundbite yesterday that this game is more important to them than the Memphis game was. Talking to my UT friends and considering they haven't won an SEC title in 41 years... he may be right.

I take it back... I'll do this prediction: Memorial will be loud and if Vandy beats them, I'll run around my house naked in the snow. No pictures!

BRM
02-26-2008, 03:49 PM
I take it back... I'll do this prediction: Memorial will be loud and if Vandy beats them, I'll run around my house naked in the snow. No pictures!

:laugh:

Good call on the "no pictures". The shrinkage factor from the extreme cold would be embarrassing.

WMR
02-26-2008, 03:49 PM
I'll run around my house naked in the snow. No pictures!

Any chance of getting the old lady to make the same bet?

On the other hand... you keep your clothes on and work the camera.

Deal?

If so, I officially know who I'll be rooting for tonight.

dabvu2498
02-26-2008, 03:57 PM
Yep, Vandy has a hell of a home court advantage with that screwed up court as well.

BTW, Adolph Rupp is responsible for the benches being on the ends of the court. Vandy was going to put them in the front row, a-la Minnesota. The Baron didn't like the idea of going up and down those steps, so he asked the SEC if they would let/make Vandy put the benches in the endzones.

Now you know.

dabvu2498
02-26-2008, 03:58 PM
Any chance of getting the old lady to make the same bet?

On the other hand... you keep your clothes on and work the camera.

Deal?

If so, I officially know who I'll be rooting for tonight.

If Vandy beats them, I doubt if the wife and I will communicate for a few days. She's a sore loser.

dabvu2498
02-26-2008, 03:58 PM
:laugh:

Good call on the "no pictures". The shrinkage factor from the extreme cold would be embarrassing.

At that point, I wouldn't care.

WMR
02-26-2008, 04:23 PM
BTW, Adolph Rupp is responsible for the benches being on the ends of the court. Vandy was going to put them in the front row, a-la Minnesota. The Baron didn't like the idea of going up and down those steps, so he asked the SEC if they would let/make Vandy put the benches in the endzones.

Now you know.

REALLY??

WOW, thanks for sharing that!

Very interesting!

What year was that?

WMR
02-26-2008, 04:24 PM
Oh yeah! I forgot all about the competition between you and your wife tonight... Does she really care about UT hoops? How do you guys interact during a game?

dabvu2498
02-26-2008, 04:26 PM
REALLY??

WOW, thanks for sharing that!

Very interesting!

What year was that?

Opened in 1952. From everything I've read, the benches have always been in the end zones.

Before that, Vandy played most home games at Nashville East High School.

dabvu2498
02-26-2008, 04:34 PM
Oh yeah! I forgot all about the competition between you and your wife tonight... Does she really care about UT hoops? How do you guys interact during a game?

She's actually teaching class tonight till 9 and won't be home till 10 or so. And oh yes, she cares about UT hoops... mens and womens.

I exaggerate when it comes to our conflicts over VU-UT sporting events. She'd never say this, but I think she doesn't mind too much when Vandy wins because she knows how much it means to me. :) She's a good woman. And as much as it pains me to say this, I don't hate UT as much as I used to... cause it makes her happy when they win.

I still hate Phil Fulmer though. And none of our children will ever wear that damn orange.

Joseph
02-26-2008, 05:51 PM
She's actually teaching class tonight till 9 and won't be home till 10 or so. And oh yes, she cares about UT hoops... mens and womens.

I exaggerate when it comes to our conflicts over VU-UT sporting events. She'd never say this, but I think she doesn't mind too much when Vandy wins because she knows how much it means to me. :) She's a good woman. And as much as it pains me to say this, I don't hate UT as much as I used to... cause it makes her happy when they win.

I still hate Phil Fulmer though. And none of our children will ever wear that damn orange.

What if they want to hunt? Will you send them out in Commodore gold?

Blimpie
02-26-2008, 05:59 PM
BTW, I hope that if Gillispie moves on that Pelphrey will one day coach at Kentucky Last summer, that very thing was extremely close to happening.

Revering4Blue
02-26-2008, 06:00 PM
FWIW, Nbadraft.net lists Patterson as #20. Draftexpress.com doesn't list him at all in two rounds.

WMR
02-26-2008, 06:03 PM
I would prefer Ford at this point over Pelphrey. Ford has the better coaching/performance resume to this point. I also love the offense that he runs at UMass.

Blimpie
02-26-2008, 06:09 PM
I would prefer Ford at this point over Pelphrey. Ford has the better coaching/performance resume to this point. I also love the offense that he runs at UMass.That may be so, but Pelphrey would run circles around Ford in the recruiting department.

WMR
02-26-2008, 06:21 PM
Why?

WMR
02-26-2008, 06:32 PM
http://www.wkyt.com/wymtnews/headlines/15992682.html

CBS has issued an apology for their screw up during the UK-Arkansas game this past Saturday. They can take their apology and shove it you know where as far as I'm concerned.

guttle11
02-26-2008, 09:05 PM
I feel terrible for those UK fans. One of the few times they're on national TV, and the network makes an extremely rare mistake.

WMR
02-26-2008, 09:22 PM
I'm sure you'd be perfectly fine with ABC cutting away from an Ohio State football game with a minute left with the game still in the balance.

WVRed
02-26-2008, 10:06 PM
I'm sure you'd be perfectly fine with ABC cutting away from an Ohio State football game with a minute left with the game still in the balance.

It would be even better if they cut to show Michigan play.

In our case, it was Duke-St Johns.

macro
02-26-2008, 11:32 PM
Not that UK had a great chance of winning Saturday at Tennessee anyway, but I think Vanderbilt's win tonight over the Vols hurts UK's chances of pulling off their own upset. I just don't see the #1 team in the country losing two straight, which they'll have to do for UK to be a winner Saturday.

I was hoping for UT to pull out a win in a physically and emotionally exhausting game, and perhaps UK could have caught them on an emotional letdown. With the loss tonight, that's not likely to happen.

UK's just gonna have to win those other three to go 18-11 / 12-4.

Javy Pornstache
02-27-2008, 12:18 AM
Tennessee will be plenty ready for Kentucky regardless of tonight's outcome. We need to worry about a very good offensive Mississippi squad.

cincy jacket
02-27-2008, 12:19 AM
Not that UK had a great chance of winning Saturday at Tennessee anyway, but I think Vanderbilt's win tonight over the Vols hurts UK's chances of pulling off their own upset. I just don't see the #1 team in the country losing two straight, which they'll have to do for UK to be a winner Saturday.

I was hoping for UT to pull out a win in a physically and emotionally exhausting game, and perhaps UK could have caught them on an emotional letdown. With the loss tonight, that's not likely to happen.

UK's just gonna have to win those other three to go 18-11 / 12-4.


I agree. I doubt they go into UT and win now, but IF they can comehow pull out a win there and win the other 3, they are the SEC regular season champs. That almost has to get them into the tournament. Lose at UT close and win the other 3 it still probablly takes a win or 2 in SEC tournament.

WVRed
02-27-2008, 09:23 AM
Not that UK had a great chance of winning Saturday at Tennessee anyway, but I think Vanderbilt's win tonight over the Vols hurts UK's chances of pulling off their own upset. I just don't see the #1 team in the country losing two straight, which they'll have to do for UK to be a winner Saturday.

I was hoping for UT to pull out a win in a physically and emotionally exhausting game, and perhaps UK could have caught them on an emotional letdown. With the loss tonight, that's not likely to happen.

UK's just gonna have to win those other three to go 18-11 / 12-4.

Like I said the last time they played, if Tennessee catches fire from three, Kentucky is beat. If they come out flat, Kentucky will have a chance.

That being said, I look for the zebra's to give Tennessee the benefit of the call.

durl
02-27-2008, 09:36 AM
UT may get energized for the Kentucky game but it could go the other way. I'm hoping that Tennessee will try too hard and end up playing worse. If Kentucky can keep it close early on, I believe they can pull it out.

Say what you will about Gillispie's first season, but one thing I have seen since SEC play started is that, if the game becomes a slugging match, this year's Cats are probably going to pull it out. I didn't have that confidence over the past few years.

WMR
02-27-2008, 10:11 AM
http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=773443

EXACTLY.

:D :D :D

BRM
02-27-2008, 10:13 AM
http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=773443

EXACTLY.

:D :D :D

Dreams are good for the soul.

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 10:20 AM
Dreams are good for the soul.

Aren't they? I dreamt that last night my team beat the #1 team in the country. :D

Anyway... UT averages forcing 19 turnovers a game. In their three losses: 12, 13, 8.

Hold on to that rock and you've got a shot.

WVRed
02-27-2008, 11:58 AM
http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=773443

EXACTLY.

:D :D :D

Drake and Butler are beatable. Michigan State would worry me. No chance of playing Vanderbilt.

WMR
02-27-2008, 02:12 PM
RECORD OF TEAMS WHO BEAT UK THIS SEASON:

Gardner-Webb 15-13 9-5 in Atlantic Sun (4th)
North Carolina 26-2 11-2 in ACC (1st)
Indiana 24-4 13-2 in Big Ten (1st)
UAB 19-8 9-3 in Conf. USA (2nd)
Houston 20-6 9-3 in Conf. USA (2nd)
San Diego 16-13 9-3 in West Coast (2nd)
Louisville 22-6 12-3 in Big East (1st)
Miss. State 18-8 9-3 in SEC (2nd)
Florida 20-7 7-5 in SEC (5th)
Vandy 24-4 9-4 in SEC (3rd)

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 02:27 PM
RPIs added


RECORD OF TEAMS WHO BEAT UK THIS SEASON:

Gardner-Webb 15-13 9-5 in Atlantic Sun (4th) 211
North Carolina 26-2 11-2 in ACC (1st) 3
Indiana 24-4 13-2 in Big Ten (1st) 18
UAB 19-8 9-3 in Conf. USA (2nd) 67
Houston 20-6 9-3 in Conf. USA (2nd) 63
San Diego 16-13 9-3 in West Coast (2nd) 103
Louisville 22-6 12-3 in Big East (1st) 13
Miss. State 18-8 9-3 in SEC (2nd) 41
Florida 20-7 7-5 in SEC (5th) 61
Vandy 24-4 9-4 in SEC (3rd) 7

I bolded those two... if they had beaten those two teams, they'd be more or less off the bubble already, IMHO.

UK's record vs top 100 RPI teams: 3-8

BTW, San Diego is 3rd in the WCC.

WMR
02-27-2008, 02:33 PM
Agreed, obviously.

How many other teams can say they've played the #1 team in 3 conferences (not their own) as highly regarded as the Big Ten, the ACC, and the Big East?

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 02:49 PM
Agreed, obviously.

How many other teams can say they've played the #1 team in 3 conferences (not their own) as highly regarded as the Big Ten, the ACC, and the Big East?

True, but did they win any of those "tough" games???

Check Tennessee:
@ Texas
@ Xavier
@ Memphis

Check Texas:
Tennessee
@ UCLA
Wisconsin

Check Wisconsin:
@ Duke
Marquette
@ Texas

Arizona's noncon schedule was unreal. It's not like UK played an impossible schedule, particularly when you look at how weak the SEC has turned out to be.

WMR
02-27-2008, 02:53 PM
None of the schedules you listed is on par with Indiana, Louisville, and North Carolina.

WMR
02-27-2008, 02:58 PM
Plus, who's saying UK ISN'T down this year... I didn't expect them to win any of those games, to be perfectly honest.

WMR
02-27-2008, 03:03 PM
Not to mention we beat current #1 Tennessee.

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 03:09 PM
None of the schedules you listed is on par with Indiana, Louisville, and North Carolina.

Wily, Wily, Wily... not that I'm an RPI ratings slave, cause I'm really not... but you're wrong, bud.

Current RPIs:
@ IU (18)
Louisville (13)
UNC (3)

@ Texas (4)
@ Xavier (6)
@ Memphis (2)

Tennessee (1)
@ UCLA (10)
Wisconsin (12)

@ Duke (5)
Marquette (15)
@ Texas (4)

And let's not forget that when Kentucky played Louisville, the Cards' RPI was 84 and they'd just been beaten at home by Cincinnati. (No offense, UC fans.)

WMR
02-27-2008, 03:12 PM
All that proves to me is the faultiness of RPI.

What about SOS?

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 03:14 PM
All that proves to me is the faultiness of RPI.

What about SOS?

My source has UK with the 19th toughest schedule in the nation.

http://www.realtimerpi.com/rpi_357_Men.html

BRM
02-27-2008, 03:16 PM
RPIs added
I bolded those two... if they had beaten those two teams, they'd be more or less off the bubble already, IMHO.


That's the key right there. They would probably be "in" right now if they were 17-8 instead of 15-10...and they should be. Those two losses were killers.

We better enjoy it while we can though. These 'Cats are going to be tough to beat next year.

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 03:25 PM
That's the key right there. They would probably be "in" right now if they were 17-8 instead of 15-10...and they should be. Those two losses were killers.

We better enjoy it while we can though. These 'Cats are going to be tough to beat next year.

I know they'll be better, but other than Patterson (assuming he stays) and Meeks (asuming he's healthy), where's the scoring going to come from?

BRM
02-27-2008, 03:28 PM
I know they'll be better, but other than Patterson (assuming he stays) and Meeks (asuming he's healthy), where's the scoring going to come from?

Michael Porter? ;)

Good point. I forgot Bradley and Crawford were both seniors. I was thinking one of them was only a junior for some reason.

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 03:34 PM
Michael Porter? ;)


Mark Coury :cool:

BRM
02-27-2008, 03:39 PM
Coury and Porter...that's quite a dynamic duo.

WMR
02-27-2008, 03:42 PM
I hope IU has enough players to field a squad after everyone transfers.

WMR
02-27-2008, 03:43 PM
Enjoy this season Dab. Vandy is a basketball program that goes through peaks and valleys.

BRM
02-27-2008, 03:44 PM
I hope IU has enough players to field a squad after everyone transfers.

So do I. :(

It was reported on the broadcast last night that Dakich was scheduled to meet with Ebanks and Holloway next week. I hope he can convince them to keep their commitment to IU.

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 03:49 PM
Enjoy this season Dab. Vandy is a basketball program that goes through peaks and valleys.

I've enjoyed the last 2 seasons alot, thank you very much.

Besides, Vandy has only 3 losing seasons in the last 20 years. Just two more than UK. :D

WMR
02-27-2008, 03:51 PM
I know they'll be better, but other than Patterson (assuming he stays) and Meeks (asuming he's healthy), where's the scoring going to come from?

Scotty Hopson - 5 star recruit

...

DeAndre Liggins - 5 star recruit

...

Darius Miller - 4 star recruit

...

Kevin Galloway (best PG Juco in the nation ... 6' 7" with sick handles)

WMR
02-27-2008, 03:53 PM
I've enjoyed the last 2 seasons alot, thank you very much.

Besides, Vandy has only 3 losing seasons in the last 20 years. Just two more than UK. :D

;)

Build a normal gym.

BRM
02-27-2008, 03:53 PM
What, is one of those guys supposed to be the next Michael Beasley or something?

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 03:56 PM
Wily -- I think you know this, but I was born and raised a UK fan. Even when I started school at Vandy I thought I'd never root against UK.

But then I found it impossible to root against guys I actually knew personally and liked. And now, well... I know how hard it is just to be a student at Vandy, much less a student-athlete, what with no social work, recreation management, or phys ed majors available :) so it's hard to root against the current crop of Vandy guys too.

Nice article on that theme re: Ogilvy -- http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080225/SPORTS0602/802250337/1002

BRM
02-27-2008, 03:58 PM
I was born and raised a UK fan.

I'm sorry...

WMR
02-27-2008, 03:58 PM
HELL NO I DIDN'T KNOW THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BENEDICT DABVU!!!!!!!!!!

:( :( :cry: :cry: :( :(

WMR
02-27-2008, 04:00 PM
What, is one of those guys supposed to be the next Michael Beasley or something?

I wish.

Just saying, it's going to be much easier to reload from the loss of Bradley and Crawford than is being stated.

BRM
02-27-2008, 04:01 PM
I wish.

Just saying, it's going to be much easier to reload from the loss of Bradley and Crawford than is being stated.

I do think UK is going to be tough next year as I've already stated. I would be a tad concerned about the offense though, as dab pointed out.

WMR
02-27-2008, 04:06 PM
Oh I agree. I think a healthy Meeks will make a world of difference. Also, remember, Jasper is practically playing on one leg this year. I expect him to take a big step forward next year as well when he is fully healthy. He has shot over 50% from 3-pt range this year and last season his driving ability was sick.

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 04:07 PM
Scotty Hopson - 5 star recruit

...

DeAndre Liggins - 5 star recruit

...

Darius Miller - 4 star recruit

...

Kevin Galloway (best PG Juco in the nation ... 6' 7" with sick handles)


Assuming UK gets Hopson, right???

Still, it's alot to ask a freshman to come in and score double figures in the SEC. Especially a guard.

WMR
02-27-2008, 04:08 PM
Assuming UK gets Hopson, right???

Still, it's alot to ask a freshman to come in and score double figures in the SEC. Especially a guard.

Oh I agree.

I'm not really expecting too much from UK until the season after next.

WMR
02-27-2008, 04:09 PM
Assuming UK gets Hopson, right???

Still, it's alot to ask a freshman to come in and score double figures in the SEC. Especially a guard.

Assuming? More like praying. :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:

BRM
02-27-2008, 04:11 PM
Oh I agree.

I'm not really expecting too much from UK until the season after next.

I'm not expecting an SEC title next year but they will be a tough out. That's all I'm saying.

WMR
02-27-2008, 04:13 PM
Agree. Better hope you got some good intramural players on campus to fill in for your lost players, b/c we'll be looking for revenge next season. :evil: :evil: :evil:

BRM
02-27-2008, 04:22 PM
I hear Razor has been working on his jump hook lately. I hope he's ready to step in next year.

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 04:22 PM
HELL NO I DIDN'T KNOW THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BENEDICT DABVU!!!!!!!!!!

:( :( :cry: :cry: :( :(

Oh yes. Born in Bowling Green, KY. Both sides of the family from Ky. I've been called alot worse than that by family members for rooting against the Cats.

When I first got to Vandy, I was very conflicted by who to root for, but like I said, I couldn't root against guys I knew personally and liked.

I actually have some Cats gear and one of my hounds wears a UK collar.

WMR
02-27-2008, 04:24 PM
You are dead to me!!!!!

WMR
02-27-2008, 04:25 PM
Just when you think you get to know a guy....

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 04:25 PM
UK fans complaining about Vandy's gym set-up continue to make it harder for me to root for UK. :)

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 04:26 PM
Also, my heart follows my money.

WMR
02-27-2008, 04:26 PM
UK fans complaining about Vandy's gym set-up continue to make it harder for me to root for UK. :)

I'm not really complaining... there's no excuse losing to those nerds.

BRM
02-27-2008, 04:27 PM
A good friend of mine is in a similar boat. Born and raised an IU fan but he's a U of L grad. Those two never play each other and they are in separate conferences though so it's not a big deal. He roots for both schools.

You're in a tough spot with both teams playing in the SEC.

WMR
02-27-2008, 04:28 PM
Yanno, that wouldn't matter to me at all, honestly. I might feel affection for a school that I attended, but no way in hell would it ever come close to supplanting the love that I feel towards the University of Kentucky.

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 04:31 PM
I'm not really complaining... there's no excuse losing to those nerds.

Yeah... ask the 2006-2007 Furman Paladins how hard it is to win in Memorial.

BRM
02-27-2008, 04:31 PM
Yanno, that wouldn't matter to me at all, honestly. I might feel affection for a school that I attended, but no way in hell would it ever come close to supplanting the love that I feel towards the University of Kentucky.

He's an IU fan first, except for baseball. He played baseball at U of L so there is a true soft spot for him in that sport, which I understand.

WMR
02-27-2008, 04:32 PM
Yeah... ask the 2006-2007 Furman Paladins how hard it is to win in Memorial.

You'll have to explain that one to me.

WMR
02-27-2008, 04:33 PM
He's an IU fan first, except for baseball. He played baseball at U of L so there is a true soft spot for him in that sport, which I understand.

I get that.

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 04:34 PM
Yanno, that wouldn't matter to me at all, honestly. I might feel affection for a school that I attended, but no way in hell would it ever come close to supplanting the love that I feel towards the University of Kentucky.

I thought the same thing. then I got to know Drew Maddux and Austin Bates, Atiba Prater and Langhi and some of those guys.

And like BRM said, it wouldn't be as big a deal if they weren't in the same conference.

You're telling me if Georgetown College got a game with Uk, you wouldn't root for Georgetown?

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 04:35 PM
You'll have to explain that one to me.

Furman won at Memorial last year.

BRM
02-27-2008, 04:35 PM
You're telling me if Georgetown College got a game with Uk, you wouldn't root for Georgetown?

I'm betting he wouldn't.

BRM
02-27-2008, 04:36 PM
I get that.

Loves IU, roots for his alma mater. That's the best way to explain it I guess.

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 04:37 PM
Loves IU, roots for his alma mater. That's the best way to explain it I guess.

See, I love my alma mater, root for UK (when not playing each other).

BRM
02-27-2008, 04:37 PM
See, I love my alma mater, root for UK (when not playing each other).

That's because you are "Backwards Man". :p:

WMR
02-27-2008, 04:38 PM
I thought the same thing. then I got to know Drew Maddux and Austin Bates, Atiba Prater and Langhi and some of those guys.

And like BRM said, it wouldn't be as big a deal if they weren't in the same conference.

You're telling me if Georgetown College got a game with Uk, you wouldn't root for Georgetown?

They actually DID play them two years ago in a pre-season exhibition. Yes, I would root for Gtown, only because of their miniscule size in comparison to UK. If I went to Alabama though? Or Florida? (Puke) Or TENNESSEE?? GROSS ME OUT DUDE!!!

I see what you're saying as far as knowing the guys on the team, but it seems like after those guys graduated your allegiances would revert to their original standings.

BRM
02-27-2008, 04:39 PM
They actually DID play them two years ago in a pre-season exhibition. Yes, I would root for Gtown,

I stand corrected.

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 04:39 PM
That's because you are "Backwards Man". :p:

My best friend is a UK fan, but he went to Miami. He used to give me a gangload of ____ about rooting for Vandy... until Miami played UK in the Sweet 16 a few years ago. Then he understood.

BRM
02-27-2008, 04:42 PM
This is interesting. I'll have to ask my buddy who he would root for if U of L played IU. I always assumed he would stick with the Hoosiers but I could be wrong.

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 04:45 PM
I see what you're saying as far as knowing the guys on the team, but it seems like after those guys graduated your allegiances would revert to their original standings.

Nahhh... cause those guys are like me... not 5 star recruits that are coddled with athletic dorms, $500 handshakes, cushy classes and the like.

It'd be like rooting against myself.

WMR
02-27-2008, 04:49 PM
Nahhh... cause those guys are like me... not 5 star recruits that are coddled with athletic dorms, $500 handshakes, cushy classes and the like.

It'd be like rooting against myself.

:lol:

I see why your family gives you hell.

BRM
02-27-2008, 04:49 PM
Nahhh... cause those guys are like me... not 5 star recruits that are coddled with athletic dorms, $500 handshakes, cushy classes and the like.

It'd be like rooting against myself.

Are you implying that certain SEC schools do those things? ;)

WMR
02-27-2008, 04:50 PM
Hey BRM, when my grandfather started Bevins Motor Co. in 1946 we were originally an International Harvester dealer.

BRM
02-27-2008, 04:50 PM
I see why your family gives you hell.

You two are like brothers. You're both hard-headed.

BRM
02-27-2008, 04:51 PM
Hey BRM, when my grandfather started Bevins Motor Co. in 1946 we were originally an International Harvester dealer.

When did you guys switch to Deere?

dabvu2498
02-27-2008, 04:54 PM
Are you implying that certain SEC schools do those things? ;)

Obviously, you never say never, but I don't think I'll ever have to be embarassed of something that comes out of my alma mater's athletic department. Oh... wait... we don't have an athletic department.

I'm sure that's something you, as an IU fan, can appreciate. :D

BRM
02-27-2008, 04:54 PM
Obviously, you never say never, but I don't think I'll ever have to be embarassed of something that comes out of my alma mater's athletic department. Oh... wait... we don't have an athletic department.

I'm sure that's something you, as an IU fan, can appreciate. :D

The low blows continue to fly in this thread...

WMR
02-27-2008, 07:33 PM
The low blows continue to fly in this thread...

I love this thread. :D

WMR
02-27-2008, 07:33 PM
Who would have thought the biggest smack talker would be a Vandy fan?!?!?! LMAO LMAO ;)

WMR
02-27-2008, 07:34 PM
When did you guys switch to Deere?

My dad took over the business in the 80's and oversaw the switch-over to Massey Ferguson... they became a Deere dealership in the early 90's.

WMR
02-27-2008, 07:37 PM
I'm sure you'd be perfectly fine with ABC cutting away from an Ohio State football game with a minute left with the game still in the balance.

Guttle?? Come in, Guttle? Still waiting for you to tell me how you wouldn't care about something similar happening during an Ohio State football game...

WMR
02-27-2008, 08:36 PM
UK has come out and straight up kicked Ole Miss' ass so far tonight.

Blimpie
02-27-2008, 09:29 PM
Why?Some in the know felt that Pelphrey did most of the heavy lifting on the Florida recruiting trail while he was an assistant under Billy Donovan.

IMO, Travis Ford simply does not have the same skillset as Pelphrey when it comes to landing the big fish.

WMR
02-27-2008, 09:30 PM
Some in the know felt that Pelphrey did most of the heavy lifting on the Florida recruiting trail while he was an assistant under Billy Donovan.

IMO, Travis Ford simply does not have the same skillset as Pelphrey when it comes to landing the big fish.

Interesting.

That being said, I would bet that Pelphrey will be the next coach at UK after BCG.

Blimpie
02-27-2008, 09:37 PM
Interesting.

That being said, I would bet that Pelphrey will be the next coach at UK after BCG.Just my opinion about his recruiting prowess, not exactly a fact.

However, I DO know for a fact that Pelphrey was UK's choice before they settled for BCG. This was during the period of time when Donovan's reps were playing coy about whether they would discuss the UK job.

The big hiccup came when Tubby refused to bring on Pelphrey as his assistant (successor-in-waiting). Nothing against Pelphrey--Tubby just was adamant that he would not cut loose his entire assistant staff.

Next thing you know, Tubby is off to Minnesota, Pelphrey is at a press conference in Fayettville, and BCG is on a private flight to Bluegrass Airport.

WMR
02-27-2008, 09:41 PM
W-O-W

WMR
02-27-2008, 10:09 PM
How lucky were we to win that game?

Very, very, VERY lucky.

Absolutely pathetic second-half performance.

Can't wait till Coach Gillispie gets these boys in a film session for that second half 'performance.'

durl
02-27-2008, 10:13 PM
Someone please help me with a rule here. At the end of the game, Stevenson brings down a rebound then an Ole Miss player (Curtis, I believe) comes through and runs through Stevenson's arms and dislodges the ball. Why is that not a foul? Is it because they believe Curtis touched the ball first? After rewinding and going slo-mo, it's evident that he makes strong contact.

I know players can go for loose balls but this one wasn't loose. I'm just curious.

WMR
02-27-2008, 10:13 PM
Oh it absolutely was a foul. It was a RIDICULOUS non-call.

WVRed
02-27-2008, 10:36 PM
Just my opinion about his recruiting prowess, not exactly a fact.

However, I DO know for a fact that Pelphrey was UK's choice before they settled for BCG. This was during the period of time when Donovan's reps were playing coy about whether they would discuss the UK job.

The big hiccup came when Tubby refused to bring on Pelphrey as his assistant (successor-in-waiting). Nothing against Pelphrey--Tubby just was adamant that he would not cut loose his entire assistant staff.

Next thing you know, Tubby is off to Minnesota, Pelphrey is at a press conference in Fayettville, and BCG is on a private flight to Bluegrass Airport.

IIRC, didn't Arkansas name Pelphrey after UK hired Gillispie?

WMR
02-27-2008, 11:04 PM
" " = Represent actual quotes...

Billy Clyde Gillispie: "I want to play for Championships."

THAT MAN WANTED VANDY TO WIN!!!

"I'm not a 'safe-haven' guy"

I LOVE THIS MAN!!!

"I CAME HERE TO CUT DOWN NETS"

I LOVE THIS MAN!!!

George Foster
02-27-2008, 11:21 PM
Kentucky played a good 1st half, but this team has not learned how to play with a lead.

I still think we beat S.C. and Florida. If we lose to Tennessee by less than 10 and win two games in the SEC tournament, we have 20 wins, and 12 regular season wins in the SEC. If that happens, we are in the NCAA...no doubt. No SEC team has ever been left out of the NCAA with more than 10 regular SEC wins.

dabvu2498
02-28-2008, 07:58 AM
That looked like two bad basketball teams last night. I'm beyond ticked that Vandy lost to both of them and would love another shot at em.

BRM
02-28-2008, 09:05 AM
Who would have thought the biggest smack talker would be a Vandy fan?!?!?! LMAO LMAO ;)

No kidding. He's quite good at it. :)

BRM
02-28-2008, 09:08 AM
My dad took over the business in the 80's and oversaw the switch-over to Massey Ferguson... they became a Deere dealership in the early 90's.

You didn't stay with Massey Ferguson very long then. I'm sure Deere is the biggest seller anyway.

I actually own an old International tractor that I use around the place. It's a '52 Farmall Super M. I'd love to own a new Deere but I can't afford it right now. I do have a John Deere riding mower though. :)

dabvu2498
02-28-2008, 09:08 AM
No kidding. He's quite good at it. :)

It's that Ivy League of the South Edjamakayshun.

durl
02-28-2008, 09:14 AM
Oh it absolutely was a foul. It was a RIDICULOUS non-call.

It seemed like a bad no-call to me but I wondered if the refs let it go because they deemed to ball to be not secured by Stevenson. But if that were the case, that would mean an opponent can slap at a ball, making a player re-grip the ball, but run him over to get possession. I didn't think that was legal.

BRM
02-28-2008, 12:32 PM
Rick Bozich:



10 SEC wins might not be enough for UK

The Southeastern Conference split into two six-team divisions before the 1991-92 season. Since then, 16 teams have finished the regular season with 10-6 league records. Of those 16 teams, every one made the NCAA Tournament -- three after winning the SEC Tournament and 13 with at-large bids.

End of history lesson. Please resume the most unrelenting debate of this unrelenting winter.

Kentucky outlasted Mississippi 58-54 last night in Rupp Arena. That bumped coach Billy Gillispie's team into the 10-win club in the SEC.

The next question is automatic: Do 10 SEC victories assure the same thing for Kentucky that they did for Vanderbilt last season and for Alabama two years ago?

"I have no idea," Gillispie said. "I haven't spent one second worrying about those kinds of things. You win as many games as you can, add them up at the end of the season and see where you are."

Maybe it's better to ask Mississippi coach Andy Kennedy, who has seen other SEC teams that are NCAA locks.

"(Kentucky) reminds me a lot of those teams I was a part of at Cincinnati with Bob Huggins," said Kennedy, a former Bearcats assistant.

I'll take that as a yes. Those Cincinnati teams consistently crashed the NCAA Tournament.


More here (http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080228/COLUMNISTS01/802280456/1002/SPORTS).

dabvu2498
02-28-2008, 12:49 PM
How many at-large NCAA tourney teams will have 42 point losses on their resumes??? :)

BRM
02-28-2008, 01:10 PM
How many at-large NCAA tourney teams will have 42 point losses on their resumes??? :)

Are you trying to make WMR snap?

dabvu2498
02-28-2008, 01:17 PM
Are you trying to make WMR snap?

Who? Me??? :cool:

dabvu2498
02-28-2008, 01:23 PM
To counteract all that, I'll post some positive stuff about Billy G.:

http://www.sportsline.com/columns/story/10674223

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008802220394

http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/15741667.html

The second one is particularly poignant to me.

cumberlandreds
02-28-2008, 01:29 PM
How many at-large NCAA tourney teams will have 42 point losses on their resumes??? :)

If UK is an at large they won't have a 42 point loss but they will have a 41 point one(93-52). ;)

dabvu2498
02-28-2008, 01:36 PM
If UK is an at large they won't have a 42 point loss but they will have a 41 point one(93-52). ;)

I'm glad you got to that before WMR did.

WMR
02-28-2008, 01:36 PM
Wow... having Kennedy compare this UK team to Huggy Bear's Bearcat teams is high praise, IMO. What were the trademarks of those teams? Toughness and GRIT.

dabvu2498
02-28-2008, 01:38 PM
Wow... having Kennedy compare this UK team to Huggy Bear's Bearcat teams is high praise, IMO. What were the trademarks of those teams? Toughness and GRIT.

And most definitely not losing by 41 or giving up 23 point leads at home. :D

WMR
02-28-2008, 01:38 PM
Who? Me??? :cool:

He hasn't told you about all the psychology courses he took at his Ivy League of the South school????

BRM
02-28-2008, 01:39 PM
Wow... having Kennedy compare this UK team to Huggy Bear's Bearcat teams is high praise, IMO. What were the trademarks of those teams? Toughness and GRIT.

Players driving Cadillac Escalades?

BRM
02-28-2008, 01:39 PM
And most definitely not losing by 41 or giving up 23 point leads at home. :D

We are going to hear a loud snap any minute now...

dabvu2498
02-28-2008, 01:40 PM
Players driving Cadillac Escalades?

Or punching police horses?

WMR
02-28-2008, 01:41 PM
And most definitely not losing by 41 or giving up 23 point leads at home. :D

That was one of the most thorough ass-kickings I have ever witnessed, what can I say...

And yes, this team demonstrated again last night that they do not possess the ability to "put a team away." They are so "uncomfortable" playing with a lead... that's the only way I know to describe it. They just lack a killer instinct...

WMR
02-28-2008, 01:42 PM
Players driving Cadillac Escalades?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

WMR
02-28-2008, 01:43 PM
The first half was SOOOOOoooo tantalizingly good... and then the 2nd half was soooooooooo frustratingly bad. hehe.

dabvu2498
02-28-2008, 01:44 PM
That was one of the most thorough ass-kickings I have ever witnessed, what can I say...

And yes, this team demonstrated again last night that they do not possess the ability to "put a team away." They are so "uncomfortable" playing with a lead... that's the only way I know to describe it. They just lack a killer instinct...

Yeah. Gotta give em credit though. The way they played in Nov, Dec, and early Jan, they'd have lost 5 of the last 9, instead of winning 8.

Hate to say it, but Crawford and Bradley have been the main reasons.

BRM
02-28-2008, 01:45 PM
And yes, this team demonstrated again last night that they do not possess the ability to "put a team away." They are so "uncomfortable" playing with a lead... that's the only way I know to describe it. They just lack a killer instinct...

Sounds like poor coaching...

dabvu2498
02-28-2008, 01:46 PM
The first half was SOOOOOoooo tantalizingly good... and then the 2nd half was soooooooooo frustratingly bad. hehe.

Ole Miss wasn't going to keep missing so many bunnys and open j's.

Obviously it's easy for me to say this sitting in front of a TV, but I'd zone the snot out of UK and dare em to shoot 3s.

BRM
02-28-2008, 01:47 PM
Hate to say it, but Crawford and Bradley have been the main reasons.

A couple of Tubby's players. Go figure.

dabvu2498
02-28-2008, 01:47 PM
A couple of Tubby's players. Go figure.

Don't use up all your good material just yet.

WMR
02-28-2008, 01:54 PM
:lol: You guys are killing me today.

TeamSelig
02-28-2008, 02:30 PM
go away

Blimpie
02-28-2008, 05:07 PM
IIRC, didn't Arkansas name Pelphrey after UK hired Gillispie?Technically, yes. If you go by press conferences, Gillispie's was on Friday, April 6th and Pelphrey's was something like 72 hours later (Monday, April 9th).

My point is that, in early March 2007, UK wanted to hire Pelphrey for the 2007-08 season--but only as Tubby's assistant coach. However, once Tubby balked at the mandated purge of his current assistants, it was clear that he was not going to be able to work things out with Mitch & Company.

When Tubby announced in late March that he would be leaving UK, it pretty much spelled the end of Pelphrey's chances at UK and made the Arkansas job an easy decision for him.

The week after Tubby resigned was a flurry of activity and conversation between Donovan's "people" and several UK boosters. Donovan rebuffs UK. So, even if UK had decided to offer Pelphrey the head coaching "gig" (cannot confirm that happened), Pelphrey had already narrowed his sites on Arkansas. Next on the list was Billy Clyde, who needed approximately 15 minutes to accept the position (not really, it just seemed that way).

:cool:

Falls City Beer
02-28-2008, 09:21 PM
Go Cards.

jmac
02-28-2008, 11:31 PM
That was one of the most thorough ass-kickings I have ever witnessed, what can I say...

And yes, this team demonstrated again last night that they do not possess the ability to "put a team away." They are so "uncomfortable" playing with a lead... that's the only way I know to describe it. They just lack a killer instinct...
WMR, I think I dont know if you can call it inability to put teams away or just mainly as I like to call "lack of depth ".
I think if this team had a couple more players coming off the bench, you would see a different second half than we are witnessing.
Billy G is having to play PP-Bradley-Crawford-Stevenson-Jasper the majority of the minutes and these guys are clearly wearing down.
Some guys are playing a few minutes but not the quality minutes you need.
I told someone today, we may be a top 15 team for the first 25 minutes of a game but after that, the lack of depth hurts us big time.
If Meeks was healthy or at least able to contribute a little right now that would have a made a big difference with this team. If only coming off bench and playing 10-15 quality minutes would give this team the boost it needs but I am not counting on him the reast of the season.