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minus5
11-14-2007, 12:15 PM
The list of "The 50 Greatest TV Icons," compiled by TV Land network and Entertainment Weekly magazine:
50. Larry Hagman
49. Calista Flockhart
48. Jimmy Smits
47. Simon Cowell
46. Lassie
45. Sarah Michelle Gellar
44. Susan Lucci
43. Flip Wilson
42. James Gandolfini
41. Jon Stewart
40. Sally Field
39. Jennifer Aniston
38. Bea Arthur
37. George Clooney
36. Diahann Carroll
35. Michael J. Fox
34. Bob Barker
33. Ellen DeGeneres
32. Henry Winkler
31. Sarah Jessica Parker
30. Alan Alda
29. John Ritter
28. Howard Cosell
27. Regis Philbin
26. Farrah Fawcett
25. Heather Locklear
24. Michael Landon
23. Barbara Walters
22. Milton Berle
21. Kermit
20. Carroll O'Connor
19. Andy Griffith
18. William Shatner
17. Bob Newhart
16. David Letterman
15. "Not Ready for Primetime Players"
14. Ed Sullivan
13. Jackie Gleason
12. Dick Van Dyke
11. Roseanne
10. Dick Clark
9. Homer Simpson
8. Jerry Seinfeld
7. Mary Tyler Moore
6. Carol Burnett
5. Walter Cronkite
4. Bill Cosby
3. Oprah Winfrey
2. Lucille Ball
1. Johnny Carson


Calista Flockhart???? Sarah Jessica Parker?????Heather Locklear???? Yeah there are some on this list are definitely icons but who the hell decided some of the others? Did they know what "icon" meant? Let's see Dean Martin spent from 1965 until 1984 (or so) on TV and before that with specials and the Colgate Comedy Hour with Jerry Lewis in the mid 50's.Bing Crosby and Bob Hope had countless specials over the years. I still can't think of Christmas television without thinking of either of them. How does Sarah Michelle Geller make the list and not Ron Howard?!?!? Two decades with two iconic characters?!?!? Simon Cowell and Jimmy Smits but they don't have Don Knotts? They have George Clooney for his 2 or 3 seasons of ER and they don't have Jerry Mathers or Paul Lynde? They have Ellen Degeneress but not Merv Griffin?! There are some good ones and they at least did make Johnny Carson #1 but over all this list is terrible. Hell the robot from Lost In Space deserves a spot over Roseanne

Nugget
11-14-2007, 12:54 PM
I don't see Kelsey Grammar or James Arness who hold the record for the longest running characters on prime time television.

Seems to be 50 people you can see on TV Land.

Tom Servo
11-14-2007, 12:57 PM
No Ed O'Neil as Al Bundy = bad list

George Anderson
11-14-2007, 01:10 PM
Andy Griffith is only two spots higher than a frog???? :rolleyes:

RichRed
11-14-2007, 01:43 PM
Andy Griffith is only two spots higher than a frog???? :rolleyes:

A frog puppet.

pedro
11-14-2007, 01:49 PM
Heather Locklear is a TV icon for sure.

She was on Dynasty and TJ Hooker at the same time.

Melrose Place? 'nuff said.

that's the stuff of legends.

MWM
11-14-2007, 02:00 PM
No Ted Danson? 'Nuf said.

Rojo
11-14-2007, 02:12 PM
Good call on Grammar, Arnes and Danson. I'm kinda surprised Flip Wilson made the list. The guy had one successful show and disappeared. Half the people on this board probably don't even know who he is.

I'm also surprised by the inclusion of Howard Cosell. If your just doing "entertainment", fine, it is TV Land/Entertainment Weekly after all. But how do you include Coselll and not Bob Costas, Al Michaels, Keith Jackson, Pat Summerall, John Madden or Joe Garagiola? Those guys have been in people's living rooms for years.

And Cronkite opens up the possibility of Rather/Brokaw/Jennings/Wallace over such piffles as Flockhart, Gellar.

RichRed
11-14-2007, 02:16 PM
The Fonz is ranked too low.

cumberlandreds
11-14-2007, 02:22 PM
Andy Griffith,Carol O'Connor and Alan Alda should be top ten. That they are not makes this a very flawed poll. I'm sorry but Oprah is not an icon. A nuisance maybe but not an icon. They got the top two correct but after that it is very flawed.

minus5
11-14-2007, 02:48 PM
Good call on Grammar, Arnes and Danson. I'm kinda surprised Flip Wilson made the list. The guy had one successful show and disappeared. Half the people on this board probably don't even know who he is.

I'm also surprised by the inclusion of Howard Cosell. If your just doing "entertainment", fine, it is TV Land/Entertainment Weekly after all. But how do you include Coselll and not Bob Costas, Al Michaels, Keith Jackson, Pat Summerall, John Madden or Joe Garagiola? Those guys have been in people's living rooms for years.

And Cronkite opens up the possibility of Rather/Brokaw/Jennings/Wallace over such piffles as Flockhart, Gellar.

I'm not too surprised at Cosell. Back in 60s & 70s he was sports to most people. All of the impersonators did him, he did the Ali boxing matches on top of everything else. He was pretty huge in his day.

Johnny Footstool
11-14-2007, 02:58 PM
Henry Winkler and Roseanne should switch spots.

Roy Tucker
11-14-2007, 03:10 PM
Heather Locklear is a TV icon for sure.

She was on Dynasty and TJ Hooker at the same time.

Melrose Place? 'nuff said.

that's the stuff of legends.

She was on "Hannah Montana" the other night as a potential Billy Ray Cyrus beau.

She's still got it.

KronoRed
11-14-2007, 03:12 PM
Boy I didn't read past #49

Rojo
11-14-2007, 03:18 PM
I'm not too surprised at Cosell. Back in 60s & 70s he was sports to most people. All of the impersonators did him, he did the Ali boxing matches on top of everything else. He was pretty huge in his day.

I understand that. I'm not saying everyone I listed should have made it but surely Keith Jackson, who is college football, is more of an icon than Ellen Degeners or Sarah Jessica Parker. And Mike Wallace? How do you leave him off?

Even though 2/3 of the list is men, I'm guessing that more women than men voted. You know many dudes who read Entertainment Weekly?

MWM
11-14-2007, 03:36 PM
She was on "Hannah Montana" the other night as a potential Billy Ray Cyrus beau.

She's still got it.


Heather Locklear on Hannah Montana? Oh, Sweet Niblets!!!

:evil:

minus5
11-14-2007, 03:43 PM
Even though 2/3 of the list is men, I'm guessing that more women than men voted. You know many dudes who read Entertainment Weekly?

I'd agree with that for sure. It answers why for a LOT of people on that list.

Chip R
11-14-2007, 03:53 PM
I would leave out Jimmy Smits, Maybe Calista Flockhart and Sarah Michelle Geller, Bea Arthur, Ellen DeGeneres, John Ritter, Regis, and Heather Locklear. I'm kind of confused about the SNL bunch. Are they including everyone who has been a cast member or just the original bunch. Either way, I would exclude them as a group. Maybe include John Belishi or Chevy Chase but probably not anyone else except maybe Eddie Murphy.

minus5
11-14-2007, 04:02 PM
I'm kind of confused about the SNL bunch. Are they including everyone who has been a cast member or just the original bunch. Either way, I would exclude them as a group. Maybe include John Belishi or Chevy Chase but probably not anyone else except maybe Eddie Murphy.

One thing I read implied that it was the original NRFPTPs

Chip R
11-14-2007, 04:06 PM
One thing I read implied that it was the original NRFPTPs


That would make sense.

texasdave
11-14-2007, 04:17 PM
Mel Blanc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Blanc

redsfanmia
11-14-2007, 04:48 PM
How does Sally Field make the list? She was in what the Flying Nun and what else? Syble was a made for tv movie but im at a lost for anything else.

MWM
11-14-2007, 05:04 PM
Gigdet

redsfanmia
11-14-2007, 05:41 PM
Gigdet

oh yeah but how long was that on?

NJReds
11-14-2007, 05:59 PM
Howard Cosell

minus5
11-14-2007, 06:00 PM
Howard Cosell

He was on the list

NJReds
11-14-2007, 06:07 PM
He was on the list

Yikes. I need glasses. I saw Calista Flockhart on the list and it lost credibility from there.

klw
11-14-2007, 06:15 PM
I have no problem with Sarah Michelle Gellar being on the list. Buffy was a fantastic show and I can understand having a few newer entries. No Ted Danson nor Kellsey Grammar though is pretty shocking.

nate
11-14-2007, 06:30 PM
How about Marlin Perkins? He was on Wild Kingdom from 1963-1985.

AmarilloRed
11-14-2007, 07:30 PM
I think Buffy should have been a lot higher than 45.

GAC
11-14-2007, 09:21 PM
Calista Flockhart???? Sarah Jessica Parker?????Heather Locklear???? Yeah there are some on this list are definitely icons but who the hell decided some of the others? Did they know what "icon" meant? Let's see Dean Martin spent from 1965 until 1984 (or so) on TV and before that with specials and the Colgate Comedy Hour with Jerry Lewis in the mid 50's….Bing Crosby and Bob Hope had countless specials over the years. I still can't think of Christmas television without thinking of either of them. How does Sarah Michelle Geller make the list and not Ron Howard?!?!? Two decades with two iconic characters?!?!? Simon Cowell and Jimmy Smits but they don't have Don Knotts? They have George Clooney for his 2 or 3 seasons of ER and they don't have Jerry Mathers or Paul Lynde? They have Ellen Degeneress but not Merv Griffin?! There are some good ones and they at least did make Johnny Carson #1 but over all this list is terrible. Hell the robot from Lost In Space deserves a spot over Roseanne

Fully agree. Well said.

No mention of Jack Benny or Sid Caesar? Sid was a pioneer!

Howdy Dowdy or Captain Kangaroo?

Regis Philbin? Give me a break!

Capt Kirk, but no Spock?

And how a mention of various cartoon "icons" like the Flintsones who was the first primetime halfhour cartoon series?

I hate lists like this. How was it compiled?

vaticanplum
11-15-2007, 05:18 PM
I have no problem with Sarah Michelle Gellar being on the list. Buffy was a fantastic show and I can understand having a few newer entries.

Definitely hugely iconic in my generation. And I've never even seen the show.

I'm having a hard time separating "icon" from "memorable character" on this list, which makes it hard for me to judge. They're two very different things but the list doesn't seem to make a distinction.

MrCinatit
11-15-2007, 08:41 PM
Any television icon list missing Rod Serling is a joke.

GAC
11-15-2007, 08:54 PM
TVLand says that they compiled this list based on TV personalities that were seen as "trailblazers". So I though "OK", makes sense. Then I went back over the list with that in mind. I see even less trailblazers on that list.....

Calista Flockhart
Jimmy Smits
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Jon Stewart
Sally Field
George Clooney
Heather Locklear
Regis Philbin

trailblazers????

GAC
11-15-2007, 08:59 PM
Any television icon list missing Rod Serling is a joke.

Very true.

And how about....

http://www.geocities.com/alcus2/hitchcock.jpeg

Rojo
11-15-2007, 09:46 PM
Any television icon list missing Rod Serling is a joke.


Chick list, I'm tellin' ya.