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SteelSD
11-14-2007, 11:14 PM
Just wanted to start a thread for those who've been watching "Journeyman" on NBC (Monday- 9:00 PM CST).

Yes, the show has a "Quantum Leap" (a big fave of mine) feel to it, but it's caught my eye and imagination over the last few weeks. Monday's episode (11/12/07) was some of the best fictional television I've seen in years. The plot, writing, and acting is simply superb- headed by "Rome's" Kevin McKidd (Dan Vasser). Gretchen Egolf (Katie Vasser) and Moon Bloodgood (Livia Beale) are both incredibly attractive in different enough ways to make the jealous tension believable. Dan's brother, Jack, (Reed Diamond) does an excellent job of being annoying while he's also a character with whom we can empathize.

The plot nuances are continuing to develop in a "Heroes" sort of way. Things we think might be important are positioned as being red herrings, but are then brought back later to the spotlight. The threads in this show are tied tight. Don't forget to pay attention or you might miss something. The show can be viewed as a "stand-alone" experience- one of the items I found to be enjoyable about "Quantum Leap"- but "Journeyman" does a better job of rewarding viewers for paying attention over multiple episodes. It gives more answers. Even if those answers only beg other questions, that's enjoyable TV for me.

IMHO, NBC has come up with a huge breath of fresh air here. It's as if they perfected "Quantum Leap" by giving it more edge, more intrigue, more protagonist/antagonist interaction, and then turned it loose upon itself while waiting for the viewer to scream for more. Bravo.

Unassisted
11-14-2007, 11:35 PM
Journeyman is by far my favorite new show of the season. Until this week's episode, it's ratings had been slipping. Were it not for the writers' strike, I don't think NBC would have stuck with it for this long. If some of you watch other shows during that time slot, you should check out this show. :)

On another board I frequent that discusses the show, there are posters who whine constantly that the show is "just a ripoff of Quantum Leap," as if Quantum Leap was the only show that ever dealt with time travel. QL was a fine show in its time, but I like Journeyman better.

Mutaman
11-15-2007, 12:52 AM
I'm not a big sci fi buff but McKidd is just great and makes this show worth watching.

M2
11-15-2007, 01:10 AM
What I like about it is it's had the good sense to take a "wouldn't that be cool" concept and point out that, "no, it would suck really bad." The poor guy is struggling to keep his job, to keep his marriage together. He can't be alone with his son. He's on a terrorist watch list because he disappeared off an airplane. Though it hasn't been mentioned, he's got to be terrified every time he sits on the toilet or takes a shower.

Puffy
11-15-2007, 10:46 AM
Well, since CSI: Miami has jumped the shark maybe I will give this show a try.

TeamBoone
11-15-2007, 12:36 PM
I love this show too, but never even made the QL connection. Instead, I find it's a bit similar to Dead Zone, though in reverse. And though DZ's lead character doesn't actually travel in time, his spirit does, allowing him to investigate each situation first hand without actually being observed.

Anyway, Journeyman is a great show, and I love how D.B. Cooper's money is beginning to filter into each time period. It's going to be interesting.

I'm wondering if he'll eventually get a better handle on when he's being taken back. That's gotta be just horrible. And I also think he's eventually going to have to tell/confide in his brother.

I know one thing, I'd have been asking the old girlfriend a whole lot of questions. To date, he hasn't. I would think she'd have a lot of stuff to tell him seeing as how she's been "traveling" for a long time. Anyone think she drew him into it somehow? That's a question they haven't even hinted at... why is this happening to him?

KronoRed
11-15-2007, 12:41 PM
The EX GF is in on it IMO, her showing up all the time when he needs help is a little too convenient.

I'm a big fan of this show, my only complaint is it is taking everything so slow, and with new episodes about to come to a halt due to the writers strike I'm getting ready to accept we'll never find out what's going on.

dman
11-15-2007, 04:25 PM
NBC has a couple of good shows this season. Along with Journeyman, I also like Life with Damian Lewis. Both are great shows, but it seems to me that NBC isn't doing enough to promote either.

TeamBoone
11-15-2007, 09:44 PM
NBC has a couple of good shows this season. Along with Journeyman, I also like Life with Damian Lewis. Both are great shows, but it seems to me that NBC isn't doing enough to promote either.

Very good point. I like Life too.

Unassisted
12-12-2007, 01:58 PM
It was announced yesterday that NBC has opted not to order any more episodes of Journeyman. IIRC, there are two episodes that have not aired yet and those will be the last two episodes of the series. :(

RFS62
12-12-2007, 02:01 PM
It was announced yesterday that NBC has opted not to order any more episodes of Journeyman. IIRC, there are two episodes that have not aired yet and those will be the last two episodes of the series. :(


Well, that really sucks.

I guess we need more reality crap.

FIRELEFT
12-12-2007, 02:18 PM
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

KronoRed
12-12-2007, 02:53 PM
I guess we need more reality crap.

Like 'Who wants to marry their dog?'


Laugh now..but I expect it in 2 or 3 years.

BuckeyeRed27
12-12-2007, 03:13 PM
This really is disappointing. I know it happens every season, but this was a really fun show.

jimbo
12-12-2007, 04:09 PM
This really is disappointing. I know it happens every season, but this was a really fun show.

I think it's happening more and more every season, as far as good quality television going by the wasteside in favor for more dumb, mindless, reality-based drivel.

I'm to the point where I'm not even bothering watching any of the new shows in the fall, I've just gotten tired of really getting into a shows that have no hope of lasting. Firefly, Invasion, Jericho (before the fan revolt), the list goes on.

TeamBoone
12-12-2007, 04:35 PM
Crap! One of my favorites (as was Invasion and I'm awaiting the return of Jericho). I don't remember Firefly.

pahster
12-12-2007, 04:37 PM
Crap! One of my favorites (as was Invasion and I'm awaiting the return of Jericho). I don't remember Firefly.

Do yourself a favor and pick up a copy of the series on DVD. After you've finished it, watch Serenity, the movie.

jimbo
12-12-2007, 04:43 PM
Crap! One of my favorites (as was Invasion and I'm awaiting the return of Jericho). I don't remember Firefly.

Jericho returns on Tuesday, Feb. 12th at 10 pm.

And I echo pahster's suggestion. You can find the series DVD of Firefly at about any video rental store, and the follow-up movie Serenity was excellent also.

Unassisted
12-12-2007, 04:54 PM
The last two episodes of Journeyman will air next Monday and Wednesday. The writers anticipated that the show might not be renewed, so there is some closure to important plot points. If you want a less vague, spoilerish explanation of what that last sentence means, Entertainment Weekly (http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2007/12/journeyman-spoi.html?xid=rss-todayslatest-20071212-The+fate+of+%27%27Journeyman%27%27%3F) has an article that will provide it. :)

SteelSD
12-12-2007, 07:26 PM
Dang it! This show has been awesome. I hate TV executives.

M2
12-12-2007, 09:35 PM
I imagine NBC will be getting a lot of letters about this decision. It wouldn't surprise me if the show returns next year, if not on NBC then on one of its satellites like USA or Sci-Fi.

SteelSD
12-12-2007, 10:30 PM
I imagine NBC will be getting a lot of letters about this decision. It wouldn't surprise me if the show returns next year, if not on NBC then on one of its satellites like USA or Sci-Fi.

I'd love to see it picked up by HBO. But Sci-Fi is a great target too. They're going to need something to replace Battlestar Galactica.

Unassisted
12-14-2007, 04:40 PM
From Journeyman creator Kevin Falls on his blog at NBC.com (http://blog.nbc.com/journeyman/):


Well, this is the message I didn't want to post. I'm sure as most of you know by now, Journeyman will likely not be getting a back nine order. Rather than dwell on the reasons behind this decision, my fellow Executive Producer, the great Alex Graves and myself would rather remind people that our last two episodes will air next Monday night, December 17 th at 10 PM and Wednesday December 19th at 10 PM. These two episodes will provide some answers, plenty of speculation, a few surprises and hopefully some satisfying closure. They are, I promise you, very entertaining.

I want to thank the tireless and talented Kevin McKidd and the entire cast (in my opinion, the best on television and guess what, the kindest and most professional). Yes, it was hard breaking stories on this show, but it would have been harder without the collective genius of the writing staff. Every guest director that passed through said our crew was the best they ever worked with, basically telling me something I already knew. Some producers loathe their relationships with studio and networks, maybe that's because they never worked for the executives at 20th Century Fox and NBC. My sincerest thanks.

And finally, to the fans. Thank you for appreciating a different kind of show that sought to not only entertain, but to provoke and inspire. I'd like to think it says a lot about you. When the numbers slipped and we sometimes seconded guessed ourselves, you gave us validation and so we stayed the course.

Oh, and your fight to save Journeyman has humbled and moved us. I'm certainly not going to tell you to stop now. Again, our sincere gratitude and a deep bow from the waist.

It's been fun. I wish you all the Happiest of Holidays.

Kevin Falls

Unassisted
12-20-2007, 06:02 PM
There is a campaign underway at http://savejourneyman.net/campaign/ and some other online places to send the president of NBC large quantities of Rice-a-Roni along with a letter urging the network to bring Journeyman back to the schedule.

I listened to a podcast (http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=56095&cmd=tc) today that featured an interview with Kevin Falls. He said on the podcast that the letter-writing and Rice-a-Roni were being noticed by the decisionmakers at NBC. In a roundabout way, he encouraged fans of the show to join the campaigns and to do more of that kind of thing.

When the fans of "Jericho" sent packages of nuts to CBS, I never thought it would work and yet it did. That's why it's hard to believe that I'm actively considering sending NBC some Rice-a-Roni to make my opinion known about this show.

SteelSD
12-25-2007, 10:12 PM
Finally got around to watching the final episode online at nbc.com. Fantastic show. I have to say that Kevin McKidd has been a breath of fresh air for TV audiences over the past three years. His stint as Lucius Vorenas in "Rome" was fantastic and his "Journeyman" performance demonstrates depth and range rarely seen in US television.

He's come a long way from his work in "Trainspotting" (Tommy) and even if Journeyman doesn't survive, I'll be excited for his future enterprises (including a rumored lead role in a "Thor" film). And Moon Bloodgood? Please. Give. Me. More.

And thanks for posting the save Journeyman link, UA. My wife will be picking me up a box of Rice-a-Roni tomorrow.

HeatherC1212
12-26-2007, 12:46 AM
I love this show and it really upsets me that it didn't get picked up. This was one of the most creative shows on TV this year and I loved it being packaged along with Chuck and Heroes. NBC was must see for me every single Monday this year! I hope the letter writing and Rice-A-Roni helps (that's a fabulous idea! I think I need to send some to them too) and maybe, just maybe, we can save this show like the fans did with Jericho last year. :)