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Degenerate39
11-20-2007, 04:16 PM
Nfl Draft top 100 Prospects
1. Darren McFadden* - RB - 6'1" 220 lbs. - Arkansas
Outstanding junior feature back has the complete package for the NFL game.
2. Glenn Dorsey - DT - 6'2" 300 lbs. - LSU
Quick defensive tackle is an explosive performer from the inside.
3. Brian Brohm - QB - 6'4" 225 lbs. - Louisville
Experienced senior has the package to be an early NFL starter.
4. Chris Long - DE - 6'5" 285 lbs. - Virginia
Strong senior defender has taken his game to a new level this fall.
5. Jake Long - OT - 6'7" 320 lbs.- Michigan
Physical senior tackle has performed well on both sides of the line.
6. Kenny Phillips* - FS - 6'1" 205 lbs.- Miami
This smooth and athletic safety has the talent to declare for the draft early.
7. Sedrick Ellis - DT - 6'2" 295 lbs. - USC
Explosive senior tackle has been a dominant performer during his Trojans career.
8. Antoine Cason -CB - 6'1" 185 lbs.- Arizona
Shutdown corner has the coverage and ball skills to rank at the top of this critical position.
9. James Laurinaitis* - LB - 6'2" 245 lbs.- Ohio St
Productive inside linebacker has shown big-play ability in his three seasons.
10. Andre' Woodson - QB - 6'5" 230 lbs. - Kentucky
Big pocket passer looks to impress during Senior Bowl week to rank with the elite prospects.
11. Malcolm Jenkins* -CB - 6' 180 lbs. - Ohio St
Fast junior defender has the package to be the next blue-chip Buckeye cornerback.
12. Steve Slaton* - RB - 5'9" 200 lbs. - West Virginia
Fast junior is a versatile playmaker who is dangerous every time he touches the ball.
13. Malcolm Kelly* - WR - 6'3" 210 lbs. - Oklahoma
Athletic junior receiver has been unstoppable in the Big 12. He will consider entering the draft.
14. Dan Connor - LB - 6'2" 235 lbs. - Penn St
Rugged inside linebacker has the physical talent and savvy to start early in the NFL.
15. Rashard Mendenhall* - RB - 5'11" 215 lbs. - Illinois
Powerful junior tailback has been a workhorse runner and is the main catalyst for the Illini's resurgence.
16. Michael Oher* - OT - 6'5" 325 lbs.- Mississippi
Mobile junior left tackle has the physical package to become a top-flight pro pass protector.
17. DeSean Jackson* - WR - 5'11" 170 lbs. - California
Explosive junior has playmaking ability as a receiver and a return specialist.
18. Calais Campbell* - DE - 6'7" 280 lbs. - Miami
Rangy, athletic junior pass rusher has the burst of speed off the edge to become a difference-maker.
19. Gosder Cherilus - OT - 6'6" 320 lbs.- Boston College
Massive athletic left tackle has been a key blocker on QB Matt Ryan's blind side.
20. Reggie Smith*- DB - 6' 200 lbs.- Oklahoma
This athletic junior cornerback has the big-play ability to become a top-flight pro defender.
21. Early Doucet - WR - 6' 200 lbs. - LSU
Fast senior wideout has come on of late after being slowed by a minor leg injury this season.
22. Vernon Gholston* - DE - 6'4" 260 lbs.- Ohio St
Explosive junior edge rusher is a big-play performer who had an outstanding effort against Michigan.
23. Ryan Clady* - OT - 6'5" 320 lbs. - Boise St
Mobile junior left tackle has been flawless against WAC speed rushers this season.
24. Keith Rivers - LB - 6'3" 220 lbs. - USC
Speedy outside linebacker has the skills to play as an NFL rookie.
25. Mario Manningham* - WR - 5'11" 180 lbs. - Michigan
Fast junior receiver has been one of the nation's best playmakers over the last two months.
26. Tyson Jackson* - DE - 6'5" 290 lbs. - LSU
Powerful junior defensive end has developed nicely in the Tigers' physical front line.
27. Matt Ryan - QB - 6'4" 220 lbs.- Boston College
Strong armed senior quarterback has continued to impress over his final season.
28. Sam Baker - OT - 6'4" 310 lbs. - USC
Savvy senior left tackle has struggled through a leg injury since early in the season.
29. Derrick Harvey* - DE - 6'4" 245 lbs. - Florida
Quick junior pass rusher has the speed off the edge to harass many a passer.
30. Alex Boone* - OT - 6'7" 325 lbs. - Ohio St.
Agile junior left tackle is coming off a strong finish this fall that could lead to an early NFL career.
31. Justin King* - CB - 5'11"185 lbs. - Penn St
Quick junior corner has a fine package for the position, but has shown some inconsistent play in coverage.
32. Frank Okam - DT - 6'5" 320 lbs. - Texas
Rugged senior tackle is a fine inside run stuffer with the ability to push the pocket.
33. Kevin Smith* - RB - 5'11" 215 lbs. - Central Florida
Slashing powerful junior tailback has been a workhorse for UCF.
34. Earl Bennett* - WR - 6'1" 200 lbs.- Vanderbilt
Fast junior wideout set new SEC records this fall and has prototypical numbers for the pro game.
35. Xavier Adibi - LB - 6'1" 225 lbs. - Virginia Tech
Speedy outside linebacker has a high level of development and is ready to compete in the NFL.
36. James Hardy* - WR - 6'6" 220 lbs.- Indiana
Big junior wideout has been a force over the '07 season, beating some of the nation's best cover men.
37. Shawn Crable - LB - 6'3" 245 lbs.- Michigan
Versatile senior linebacker has the ability to fill any role on the outside.
38. Aqib Talib* - CB - 6'1" 180 lbs. - Kansas
Ball-hawking junior corner makes big plays in pass coverage and the return game.
39. Ray Rice* - RB - 5'9" 200 lbs. - Rutgers
This compact and powerful junior tailback has the running skills to become a workhorse in the pros.
40. Ali Highsmith - LB - 6'1" 225 lbs. - LSU
Mobile outside linebacker has the speed and instincts to become a fine pro playmaker.
41. Brandon Flowers* - CB - 5'9" 190 lbs.- Virginia Tech
Speedy junior corner is a fine cover man with playmaking ability to become a top-flight pro.
42. Devin Thomas* - WR - 6'1" 210 lbs. - Michigan St.
Fast junior receiver has come on nicely this season, showing the ability to consistently make big plays.
43. Jonathan Hefney - FS - 5'9" 185 lbs. - Tennessee
Savvy senior safety has shown fine coverage skills against top SEC talent.
44. Lawrence Jackson - DE - 6'5" 270 lbs. - USC
Athletic senior defender needs to finish strong in order to move into the first round.
45. DeJuan Tribble - CB - 5'9" 190 lbs. - Boston College
Tough, instinctive cornerback with good coverage skills and the ability to support the run.
46. Limas Sweed - WR - 6'4" 220 lbs. - Texas
Physical wideout finished his career with a wrist injury and is preparing for big postseason this winter.
47. Jonathan Stewart* - RB - 5'11" 235 lbs.- Oregon
Aggressive junior running back can be a downhill runner with the ability to break the big play at any time.
48. Mike Jenkins - CB - 6' 200 lbs. - South Florida
Big athletic senior cornerback has impressed this fall and may move up with a big postseason.
49. James Davis* - RB - 5'10" 210 lbs. - Clemson
Explosive junior tailback is a natural runner with outstanding ability.
50. Jack Ikegwuonu* - CB - 6' 200 lbs.- Wisconsin
Physical junior corner has improved his play after an erratic start to the season.
51. Mike Hart - RB - 5'9" 200 lbs.- Michigan
Compact senior tailback struggled with an ankle sprain that has limited his production.
52. Quentin Groves - DE - 6'4" 255 lbs.- Auburn
Outside edge rusher has come on late in the season after a leg injury cost him time at midseason.
53. Felix Jones* - RB - 5'11" 200 lbs. - Arkansas
Explosive junior running back is a great role performer who can beat a defense several ways.
54. John David Booty - QB - 6'3" 210 lbs. - USC
Talented senior passer is just returning from a broken finger that cost him valuable time at midseason.
55. Keenan Burton - WR - 6'1" 205 lbs. - Kentucky
Talented receiver/return specialist has shown big-play ability in both roles.
56. Martin Rucker - TE - 6'5" 255 lbs. - Missouri
Athletic senior tight end is one of the most complete prospects at the position over recent years.
57. Philip Wheeler - LB - 6'1" 230 lbs. - Georgia Tech
Fast linebacker has the ability to blitz, run and cover from several spots in the standard 4-3 scheme.
58. Martellus Bennett* - TE - 6'6" 255 lbs. - Texas A&M
Athletic tight end has the physical package to develop further, but had a frustrating 2007 season.
59. Dwight Lowery - CB - 6' 185 lbs. - San Jose St
Instinctive cornerback has good ball skills, which should allow him to play as a rookie.
60. DeMario Pressley - DT - 6'2" 300 lbs. - North Carolina St
Powerful senior tackle can be a force in the middle when he comes off the ball quickly.
61. Chevis Jackson - CB - 5'11" 190 lbs.- LSU
Big, athletic corner has performed well in man coverage and run support vs. SEC talent.
62. John Carlson -TE - 6'5" 255 lbs. - Notre Dame
Athletic tight end is a talented receiver who has been lost in the horrible season for the Irish.
63. Chris Ellis - DE - 6'5" 260 lbs. - Virginia Tech
Quick edge rusher has shown the burst from the outside to get to the passer.
64. Andre Fluellen - DT - 6'3" 285 lbs. - Florida St
Mobile senior tackle has had an inconsistent final season, which has hurt his overall grade to this point.
65. Dorien Bryant - WR - 5'9" 175 lbs. - Purdue
Smurf receiver/return man shows big play ability in a few roles for the pro game.
66. Colt Brennan - QB - 6'3" 210 lbs.- Hawaii
Record-setting senior passer needs to shine in major All-star game to move up any higher.
67. Barry Richardson - OT - 6'7" 325 lbs. - Clemson
Gigantic senior left tackle has the physical tools to impress against major all-star competition.
68. Quintin Demps - FS - 6' 205 lbs. - UTEP
Aggressive free safety can support the run and play man coverage.
69. Travis Beckum* - TE - 6'3" 225 lbs.- Wisconsin
Fluid receiving tight end has been unstoppable in the passing game over his fine Big Ten career.
70. John Greco - OT - 6'5" 320 lbs. - Toledo
Physical left tackle has a fine combination of power, technique and quickness.
71. Ian Johnson* - RB - 5'10" 210 lbs. - Boise St
Tough junior workhorse tailback is making a nice recovery from a bruised kidney.
72. Tony Hills - OT - 6'5" 310 lbs. - Texas
Big mobile left tackle has developed over his long Texas career.
73. Marcus Freeman* - LB - 6'1" 245 lbs. - Ohio St
Speedy junior linebacker couples with Laurinaitis to form an imposing tandem for the Buckeyes.
74. Zack Bowman - CB - 6'1" 200 lbs. - Nebraska
Athletic senior corner continues to make nice progress since returning from a serious 2006 knee injury.
75. Tom Zbikowski - SS - 5'10" 205 lbs. - Notre Dame
Tough senior safety has performed well in both run support and pass coverage this season.
76. Fred Davis - TE - 6'4" 255 lbs. - Southern Cal
Athletic senior tight end has shown top receiving skills over his final season.
77. Vince Hall - LB - 5'11" 240 lbs. - Virginia Tech
Aggressive senior Mike backer has been a sideline-to-sideline tackler with the ability to finish.
78. Tracy Porter - CB - 5'10" 190 lbs. - Indiana
Aggressive senior cover man has been one of the more complete corners in the tough Big Ten.
79. Matt Forte - RB - 6'1" 220 lbs. - Tulane
Strong workhorse tailback has had a dominant season, which has improved his stock significantly.
80. DJ Hall - WR - 6'2" 190 lbs.- Alabama
Athletic wideout has interesting pro potential with fine triangle numbers and playmaking ability.
81. Terrell Thomas - CB - 6' 200 lbs. - USC
Strong senior cornerback has the physical package to become a fine NFL starter with some development.
82. Chase Coffman* - TE - 6'5" 245 lbs. - Missouri
Big, mobile junior tight end has proven to be a dangerous receiver, especially in the red zone.
83. Chad Henne - QB - 6'2" 230 lbs.- Michigan
Strong-armed senior passer has battled a shoulder injury that has hindered his play over his final season.
84. Marcus Monk - WR - 6'5" 220 lbs.- Arkansas
Huge senior receiver has shown big play ability lately after dealing with a knee injury for most of the season.
85. Allen Patrick - RB - 5'11" 195 lbs.- Oklahoma
Quick tailback shows a fine burst to the hole and has the natural running skills to get to the second level.
86. Trae Williams - CB - 5'9" 190 lbs.- South Florida
Tough, smallish cornerback matches up well in man coverage, where he displays quickness and speed.
87. Owen Schmitt - FB - 6'3" 260 lbs. - West Virginia
Throwback player with incredible blocking strength and nicely developed skills to run and catch.
88. Josh Barrett - SS - 6'2" 235 lbs. - Arizona St
He's a linebacker-type safety who has been a catalyst in many of the Sun Devils' fine defensive performances.
89. Simeon Castille - CB - 5'11" 195 lbs. - Alabama
Physical senior cornerback has fine instincts and ball skills, in addition to sure tackling ability.
90. Wesley Woodyard - LB - 6'1" 215 lbs.- Kentucky
Speedy outside linebacker is an every-down playmaker for the Wildcats defense.
91. Will Franklin - WR - 6'1" 205 lbs. - Missouri
Athlete displays fine speed, hands and the triangle numbers to become a solid pro receiver.
92. Kendall Langford - DE - 6'6" 290 lbs.- Hampton
Athletic small-college defender has fine production and triangle numbers. He should impress in the postseason.
93. J Leman - LB - 6'1" 240 lbs. - Illinois
Savvy senior middle linebacker makes plays all over the field and has been a leader for the Illini.
94. Red Bryant - DT - 6'4" 330 lbs. - Texas A&M
Massive defensive tackle flashes big play ability but has been inconsistent just like the Aggies program.
95. Harry Douglas - WR - 5'10" 170 lbs. - Louisville
Fast, sure-handed senior receiver has been a huge playmaker during his Cardinals career.
96. Ben Moffitt - LB - 6' 240 lbs. - South Florida
This tough inside linebacker is always around the ball to finish plays.
97. Tashard Choice - RB - 6' 210 lbs. - Georgia Tech
Tough natural runner made a successful return after a midseason knee injury cost him a few games.
98. Davone Bess* - WR - 5'10" 195 lbs.- Hawaii
Explosive smallish junior receiver has been a vital part of the incredible Hawaii passing game.
99. Trey Brown - CB - 5'9" 190 lbs. - UCLA
Tough senior cornerback has graded out well over his Pac 10 career against highly rated receivers.
100. Tommy Blake - DE - 6'3" 255 lbs.- TCU
Hoping to recover for lost time and prove he is a big-time defender, especially as a pass rusher.

GoReds33
11-20-2007, 04:25 PM
Start watching the top 10. The Bengals will likely be taking somebody up there.

redsfanmia
11-20-2007, 05:25 PM
James Hardy should be higher than 36th he will be an absolute force in the redzone on sundays.

Hoosier Red
11-20-2007, 05:53 PM
Admittedly biased, but I was surprised that Tracy Porter was as low as he was.
Kiper had him 19th of all seniors.

WMR
11-20-2007, 06:51 PM
GLENN DORSEY PLEASE

Pretty please, Marvin, YOU CAN DO IT

redsfanmia
11-20-2007, 07:04 PM
Admittedly biased, but I was surprised that Tracy Porter was as low as he was.
Kiper had him 19th of all seniors.

How about two of our boys in the top 100? Things are looking up in Hoosier land.

Reds Fanatic
11-20-2007, 07:12 PM
The worst thing about next years draft is the Patriots get the 49ers pick because of a trade. If the standings ended up like they are now the Patriots would have the 2nd pick in the draft. They got their own first round draft pick taken away but keep that pick.

WMR
11-20-2007, 07:15 PM
The worst thing about next years draft is the Patriots get the 49ers pick because of a trade. If the standings ended up like they are now the Patriots would have the 2nd pick in the draft. They got their own first round draft pick taken away but keep that pick.

Are you freakin' serious????

I thought they'd take away whichever one was higher.

Hoosier Red
11-20-2007, 07:15 PM
How about two of our boys in the top 100? Things are looking up in Hoosier land.

I knew things were turning around when I started groaning at Senior Days. Players that have actually made contributions leaving but still being replaced by capable back ups.
IU's really going to struggle in the secondary though. The top 3 cornerbacks are all seniors I believe.

Reds Fanatic
11-20-2007, 07:17 PM
Are you freakin' serious????

I thought they'd take away whichever one was higher.

No that is what the NFL should have done but they took the Patriots own pick and left them the pick they got from the 49ers.

WMR
11-20-2007, 07:18 PM
No that is what the NFL should have done but they took the Patriots own pick and left them the pick they got from the 49ers.

:angry:

:rant:

:bang:

MaineRed
11-20-2007, 07:37 PM
No that is what the NFL should have done but they took the Patriots own pick and left them the pick they got from the 49ers.

Why is that what they should have done?

Tell me that you'd be on this "they should have taken the 49ers pick" kick if the 49ers had a better record than the Pats right now?

The penalty was the loss of THEIR draft pick, not the highest one they happen to obtain before the draft.

I really don't think the commish has the right to take away a pick that was acquired by trading the previous years pick. Why should the Pats or any other team for that matter be penalized for something they wouldn't have been penalized for if they just made the pick instead of trading it? Would you guys be advocating that they should take away the guy the Pats just drafted?

Had the Pats used that pick they'd have a first rounder on their team right now. They made the astute trade with the Niners and deserve the windfall. And in Goodell's mind they deserve to have their pick taken away.

You guys are just upset that a team you hate has hit the jackpot with that trade with the Niners. If your team was in this situation you'd have a fit of rage if Goodell was going to take away the Niners pick and you know it.

NJReds
11-20-2007, 07:44 PM
I agree with Maine. The league took away the Pats pick, not the one that they obtained via trade. Belichick picked a good year to get caught cheating.

MWM
11-20-2007, 07:45 PM
I'm going to hate to lose Lauranitis, Jenkins, and Gholston. I'm just hoping Boone sticks around for his senior season. He'll be tougher to replace than the other guys.

blumj
11-20-2007, 08:22 PM
I agree with Maine. The league took away the Pats pick, not the one that they obtained via trade. Belichick picked a good year to get caught cheating.
It's always stupid to get caught cheating, but he did pick a damn good year to bet on the 49ers being crappy.

Highlifeman21
11-20-2007, 09:00 PM
GLENN DORSEY PLEASE

Pretty please, Marvin, YOU CAN DO IT

Trade Rudi Johnson for some D, draft McFadden.

redsfanmia
11-21-2007, 01:00 PM
Trade Rudi Johnson for some D, draft McFadden.

Im sure Rudi has all kinds of trade value about now. He is done.

Benihana
11-21-2007, 01:49 PM
My Bengals wish list goes like this:

1. Glenn Dorsey, DT LSU The best defensive player in the draft will most likely be off the board, although I would love to see Bengals trade up to get him. He could be Richard Seymour-like.

2. Chris Long, DE Virginia Howie's son is the second best defender in the draft, and his pass rush abilities will allow the Bengals to forget Justin Smith.

3. Sedrick Ellis, DT USC The consolation prize to the Dorsey derby, Ellis is more of a 3-4 DT, but the Bengals can't afford to be picky when it comes to stopping the run. Also a high-character guy.

4. Calais Campbell, DE Miami Another guy that will bring life to the Bengals pass rush.

5. Kenny Phillips, S Miami The Bengals could use a guy that comes from a lineage that includes Ed Reed and Sean Taylor to team with Madieu Williams in the defensive backfield.

6. Dan Connor LB Penn St. Higher than Laurinitis because he plays on the outside. The latest star from Linebacker U.

7. James Laurinitis, ILB Ohio St. A high-character guy. Would be higher but with the return of Brooks and possibly Thurman, Bengals need OLB's more than ILB's.

8. Keith Rivers, OLB USC Only like him if all the other guys are off the board. He would still provide much-needed boost to Bengals weak corps of LBs.

Benihana
11-21-2007, 01:51 PM
Trade Rudi Johnson for some D, draft McFadden.

If anything I would trade Watson this offseason for some defensive help. He is cheap, his value is at an alltime high, and hopefully replaceable when Irons and Perry come back.

Rudi's salary and decline in production make him virtually untradeable. Although he is a great clubhouse presence, I wouldn't be shocked if he were cut before next season.

Either way though, I doubt a trade will be made. Football trades are a lot harder to come by than baseball. The Bengals can't afford to take McFadden (although I think he'll be very, very good.) They need to bolster their defense or they'll never contend in this conference.

camisadelgolf
11-21-2007, 02:05 PM
Here's my prediction: since the Bengals had a down year, Mike Brown will ignore all of Marvin Lewis' suggestions with the draft picks and in the first day, Brown will draft a quarterback, running back, and defensive back in that order.

bucksfan2
11-21-2007, 02:14 PM
There are 3 positions that I don't touch in the first round. DT, RB, C. DT just doesn't seem to translate to the next level all that well. DT just seems like the position you find later in the draft and develp rather than take with your top pick. RB's are a dime a dozen if you ask me. There are very few RB's in today's game that aren't replaceable. Even the best RB LT has a replaceable backup. C's just aren't drafted in the first round. Don't know why but they don't warrent a first round pick.

Benihana
11-21-2007, 02:23 PM
There are 3 positions that I don't touch in the first round. DT, RB, C. DT just doesn't seem to translate to the next level all that well. DT just seems like the position you find later in the draft and develp rather than take with your top pick. RB's are a dime a dozen if you ask me. There are very few RB's in today's game that aren't replaceable. Even the best RB LT has a replaceable backup. C's just aren't drafted in the first round. Don't know why but they don't warrent a first round pick.

I don't know, Richard Seymour and Albert Haynesworth have been pretty strong DTs that were taken in the first round.

camisadelgolf
11-21-2007, 02:39 PM
There are 3 positions that I don't touch in the first round. DT, RB, C. DT just doesn't seem to translate to the next level all that well. DT just seems like the position you find later in the draft and develp rather than take with your top pick. RB's are a dime a dozen if you ask me. There are very few RB's in today's game that aren't replaceable. Even the best RB LT has a replaceable backup. C's just aren't drafted in the first round. Don't know why but they don't warrent a first round pick.

For DTs, I either take them with a top-15 pick, or I draft "projects" in the lower rounds. I agree with you on running backs--they are too replaceable to take in the first round. Centers are worth taking with a second round pick or late first round pick as long as they are clearly going to be one of the best centers in the NFL.

bucksfan2
11-21-2007, 04:08 PM
I don't know, Richard Seymour and Albert Haynesworth have been pretty strong DTs that were taken in the first round.

I always thought Seymour was more of a DE than a DT. It just seems that there have been more misses than hits by taking DT's in the first round.

Degenerate39
11-21-2007, 05:08 PM
If the Bengals can get him in a later round I'd love to see them get Owen Schmitt.

Highlifeman21
11-21-2007, 05:14 PM
If anything I would trade Watson this offseason for some defensive help. He is cheap, his value is at an alltime high, and hopefully replaceable when Irons and Perry come back.

Rudi's salary and decline in production make him virtually untradeable. Although he is a great clubhouse presence, I wouldn't be shocked if he were cut before next season.

Either way though, I doubt a trade will be made. Football trades are a lot harder to come by than baseball. The Bengals can't afford to take McFadden (although I think he'll be very, very good.) They need to bolster their defense or they'll never contend in this conference.


Trade both Rudi and Watson.

Perry and Irons will be fine once they come off the IR. Get a true feature back.

The Bengals just have too many holes to fill, so if they are at the top of the draft, they need to take the best available player, rather than trying to fill a need.

blumj
11-21-2007, 05:17 PM
I always thought Seymour was more of a DE than a DT. It just seems that there have been more misses than hits by taking DT's in the first round.
The whole Pats line is really 3 DTs, all 1st round picks. Their OLBs are kind of more like 4-3 DEs.

Redhook
11-21-2007, 07:38 PM
Trade both Rudi and Watson.

Perry and Irons will be fine once they come off the IR. Get a true feature back.

The Bengals just have too many holes to fill, so if they are at the top of the draft, they need to take the best available player, rather than trying to fill a need.

If McFadden falls to the Bengals pick they should trade down with someone. In no way shape or form should the Bengals draft any offensive player in the first 3 rounds next year. They need defense and a lot of it.