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WMR
11-20-2007, 09:32 PM
At Jets Game, a Halftime Ritual of Harassment

By DAVID PICKER

At halftime of the Jets’ home game against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday, several hundred men lined one of Giants Stadium’s two pedestrian ramps at Gate D. Three deep in some areas, they whistled and jumped up and down. Then they began an obscenity-laced chant, demanding that the few women in the gathering expose their breasts.

When one woman appeared to be on the verge of obliging, the hooting and hollering intensified. But then she walked away, and plastic beer bottles and spit went flying. Boos swept through the crowd of unsatisfied men.

Marco Hoffner, an 18-year-old from Lacey Township, N.J., was expecting to see more. Not from the Jets — they pulled off a big upset over the Steelers. He wanted more from the alternative halftime show that, according to many fans, has been a staple at Jets home games for years.

“Very disappointed, because we’re used to seeing a lot,” Hoffner said.

The mood of previous Gate D crowds — captured on video clips posted on YouTube — sometimes bordered on hostile, not unlike the spirit of infamously aggressive European soccer hooligans. One clip online shows a woman being groped by a man standing next to her.

Sunday’s scene played out for about 20 minutes, and at least one woman granted the men’s request, setting off a roar as if the former star running back Curtis Martin had just scored a touchdown. Martin was actually nearby, being honored on the field in the official halftime show, which had a far less intense audience.

Throughout halftime, about 10 security guards in yellow jackets stood near the bottom of the circular, multilevel ramp, located beyond the stadium’s concourse of concession stands and restrooms. One of the guards was smoking a cigarette; many fans do the same during halftime on the giant ramps, which are located at each corner of the stadium. Another guard later said they were not permitted to do anything about the chants at Gate D because of free speech laws. Yet when a reporter tried to interview two security guards after halftime, he was detained in a holding room, threatened with arrest and asked to hand over his tape recorder.

The New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority, which provides security at Giants Stadium for Jets and Giants games, is aware of the raucous and raunchy halftime show. Patrick C. Aramini, the authority’s vice president for security, parking and traffic for the Meadowlands Sports Complex, said men and women could be expelled and even turned over to the New Jersey State Police to be arrested for their participation — although he said he did not know if anyone was cited Sunday. He added that other measures, like blocking access to the ramps, were being considered.

“The problem is, you got to watch four or five hundred people sometimes in the one particular spiral,” Aramini said.

“What do we do, arrest everybody that starts chanting?”

Such fan behavior is not uncommon at other sporting events in the United States, like Nascar races and the infield at the Kentucky Derby. There was even an infamous undressing in the National Football League’s marquee event: during the 2004 Super Bowl halftime show, a “wardrobe malfunction” exposed Janet Jackson’s right breast before a worldwide televised audience.

But the Gate D tradition at Giants Stadium apparently is unique to Jets games; the Gate D ramps are comparatively empty at Giants games. Perhaps forlorn Jets fans, who have rarely had a winning team to support, are seeking alternative entertainment on game days.

“This is the game,” said Patrick Scofield, a 20-year-old from Poughkeepsie, N.Y., who has attended several Jets games the last two seasons.

Denisse Rivera, a 23-year-old from the Bronx, was on a first date Sunday. When she arrived at the crowd at Gate D, several men pointed at her, signaling men at all levels to chant in her direction. After a brief moment of hesitation, she flashed them. Then she took a bow.

“I don’t care,” Rivera said when told that video clips of previous incidents, taken on cellphones, ended up online. “I love my body and I like what I have, so let everybody share it.”

Two security guards soon approached Rivera. The guards warned her about indecent exposure laws, she said, and let her go.

Jets officials declined to be interviewed about the halftime tradition at their home games. In a statement, the team said: “We expect our fans to comply with all rules at the stadium, and the vast majority do. For those who don’t, we expect and encourage N.J.S.E.A. security to take appropriate action.”

Greg Aiello, an N.F.L. spokesman, said, “I would defer any comment to law enforcement and the people on the stadium authority there that are in charge of fan-conduct issues.”

The State Police staffs every Jets home game. But Sgt. Stephen Jones, a spokesman, said the State Police did not make an attempt to prevent fans from congregating in Giants Stadium. But he said that there were incidents of fans throwing money into the center of the spiral ramps. Those fans then threw objects at children picking up the money. Access to the center of the ramps is now blocked off by a chain-link fence.

“Our emphasis is certainly not general security,” Jones said. “Something like you’re describing, the stairwell behavior, is a matter that the security would handle. Now if they come up with something where somebody needs to be arrested, the troops will go out there and effect that arrest.”

Some parents are not pleased with the halftime activities away from the field.

Randall Lazzaro, a 40-year-old from New Jersey, attended Sunday’s game with his wife and two sons, ages 6 and 9. He was at the base of Gate D shortly before halftime and said that cursing at games was probably the main reason parents did not want to take their kids to games.

When Lazzaro was told what was about to happen on the ramps at Gate D, he said, “That’s a disgusting practice and the police have to get involved, put a stop to it.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/20/sports/football/20fans.html?em&ex=1195707600&en=da6029e940e216f7&ei=5087%0A

MaineRed
11-20-2007, 10:23 PM
Can't argue with the article but the thread title is a little over the top. It is unfair to lump all Jet fans into one group, especially a group as vile as this. Mike Greenberg is a Jet fan, a huge Jet fan. Does he strike you as the kind of a-hole described above?

Every football team, right down to most high schools have plenty of fans who would glady join in with these Jet fans if given the opportunity.

Just like the complaining about the Patriots not losing the 49ers draft pick, imagine if this was a small group of Bengal fans. Would you accept someone calling "Bengal fans" the scum of the earth? Is that dad of the nine year old who was quoted, scum? He is a Jet fan afterall.

Gainesville Red
11-20-2007, 10:48 PM
Plenty of scum of the earth Gator fans. Many are not.

Probably plenty of scum of the earth Ohio State fans, I'm sure some of you are not.

Plenty of every team X fans are scum of the earth, many are not.

Many people are scum of the earth. Many are not.

(Not advocating the behavior displayed in the article. Go to a strip club to see naked chicks. Children are not allowed in.)

camisadelgolf
11-21-2007, 04:05 AM
This story's no good without pictures. I want proof before I start believing it.

MrCinatit
11-21-2007, 06:10 AM
I'd be surprised if such activities were native only to Giants Stadium.

Razor Shines
11-21-2007, 07:12 AM
But he said that there were incidents of fans throwing money into the center of the spiral ramps. Those fans then threw objects at children picking up the money. Access to the center of the ramps is now blocked off by a chain-link fence.
This is the worst part of the story. Baiting kids into the open with money so you can hit them with stuff? That's pretty bad. That's good enough for "Scum of the Earth" without the other part of the story.

As for the chanting, I've been to a Nascar race where a similar thing happened, I remember thinking "I'm glad I didn't bring my wife."

NJReds
11-21-2007, 10:10 AM
This story's no good without pictures. I want proof before I start believing it.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/11/20/sports/20jets-600.jpg

Blimpie
11-21-2007, 11:20 AM
Denisse Rivera, a 23-year-old from the Bronx, was on a first date Sunday. When she arrived at the crowd at Gate D, several men pointed at her, signaling men at all levels to chant in her direction. After a brief moment of hesitation, she flashed them. Then she took a bow.It sounds like I chose Mrs. Blimpie a bit too soon....

And who said "first dates" are without romance?

HotCorner
11-21-2007, 12:55 PM
Denisse Rivera, a 23-year-old from the Bronx, was on a first date Sunday. When she arrived at the crowd at Gate D, several men pointed at her, signaling men at all levels to chant in her direction. After a brief moment of hesitation, she flashed them. Then she took a bow.

“I don’t care,” Rivera said when told that video clips of previous incidents, taken on cellphones, ended up online. “I love my body and I like what I have, so let everybody share it.”


Shockingly Ms. Rivera has a MySpace page found courtesy of http://sports.rightpundits.com/?p=324

http://www.myspace.com/dalavida

camisadelgolf
11-21-2007, 01:36 PM
Thanks, NJReds, but HotCorner had more along the lines of what I was looking for.

Blimpie
11-21-2007, 05:07 PM
"Nice girl???? Nice family??? She's a......"

Highlifeman21
11-21-2007, 05:11 PM
Shockingly Ms. Rivera has a MySpace page found courtesy of http://sports.rightpundits.com/?p=324

http://www.myspace.com/dalavida

Denisse seems classy... wholesome, even.

Matt700wlw
11-21-2007, 05:13 PM
Mardi Gras north.


I'll go gas the car...






:evil:

GoReds33
11-21-2007, 05:16 PM
Denisse seems classy... wholesome, even.My thoughts exactly.:D

Degenerate39
11-21-2007, 07:18 PM
Every team has some fans that are the scum of the Earth. Except the Reds of course :D

westofyou
11-21-2007, 08:26 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/21/sports/football/21fans.html?ref=sports&pagewanted=print


November 21, 2007
Senator Decries Behavior at Jets Games
By DAVID PICKER

Richard J. Codey, the president of the New Jersey Senate, did not witness fans’ unruly behavior on a pedestrian ramp at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J., when he attended the Jets-Steelers game on Sunday, but yesterday he emerged as the public official who seemed the most determined to crack down on the activities.

“No authoritative body seems willing or capable of addressing the situation, and security personnel that witnessed the harassment appear to have turned a blind eye,” Codey wrote in the letter to Col. Joseph R. Fuentes, the State Police superintendent, and to Dennis Robinson, who is scheduled to take over next month as president and chief executive of the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority.

An article in The New York Times yesterday described how hundreds of male fans on a ramp near Gate D shouted at women to expose their breasts, and then threw plastic beer bottles when they did not. “It seems like for some Jet fans, that Gate D stands for drunk and disgusting,” Codey said in a telephone interview.

He called on the state police and the sports authority to investigate the fans’ behavior — which, according to many fans and some stadium workers, has been a halftime staple at Jets games for years — and to implement steps to ensure that the harassment stops. Codey also spoke with N.F.L. Commissioner Roger Goodell and Woody Johnson, the Jets’ owner, to express his displeasure.

Matt Higgins, the Jets’ senior vice president for business operations, said: “We feel we have an obligation to create an environment for our fans where they can enjoy the game. Now some of that, we don’t have direct control over, like security. But that does not mean in any way we shrink from our responsibility to create that environment.” He added that the Jets would do “whatever we can” to improve security.

Officials from the Jets and the sports authority will meet to discuss the issue next week.

George Zoffinger, the outgoing president and chief executive of the sports authority, disputed Codey’s contention that the authority had turned a blind eye to the fans’ behavior.

In a telephone interview, Zoffinger said that the security staff at Giants Stadium had received the highest marks from the N.F.L. for the safety it provided. He added that 280 security guards and 90 state troopers regularly work N.F.L. games at Giants Stadium.

In talking about what the sports authority knew about the fan behavior on the pedestrian ramp, he said that his security staff had never received a letter of complaint about women being harassed and that he was unaware of whether this type of behavior was ongoing. But he then indicated that he was cognizant of previous incidents.

“We’re aware of this,” Zoffinger said. “We’ve had numerous arrests. We’re doing everything we can in conjunction with the teams to make sure that people’s experience at the games is a proper one.”

Zoffinger added that there was little that could be done to stop large groups of men from chanting obscenities, other than reasoning with them. Blocking access to the ramps is one step being considered.

In the first six Jets home games this season, he said, 7 of the 148 ejections were women who were kicked out for indecent exposure. Of the 174 ejections at the five Giants home games this season, one was a woman for indecent exposure, he added.

Sgt. Stephen Jones, a spokesman for the State Police, said that uniformed troopers will be reallocated at future N.F.L. games at Giants Stadium to provide a greater presence at all spiral pedestrian ramps. Jones said that the State Police had not turned a blind eye to harassment.

Greg Aiello, an N.F.L. spokesman, said that as far as he and other league officials knew, the type of behavior exhibited near Gate D has not been a problem with other N.F.L. teams.

“The conduct described is unacceptable,” Aiello said in a statement. He added, “We are confident that the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority will address this matter in an aggressive and appropriate way.”

In Codey’s conversation with Goodell, the commissioner told him that he expected the Jets to “step in and do the right thing,” Codey said.

Codey said that Johnson, the Jets’ owner, told him: “‘If any fans engage in this conduct, we’ll have their tickets revoked. And if it’s a violation of law, we want them arrested.’”

WVRed
11-22-2007, 08:39 AM
Shockingly Ms. Rivera has a MySpace page found courtesy of http://sports.rightpundits.com/?p=324

http://www.myspace.com/dalavida

If she really loves to show off her body, why would she put her pictures on private?:confused:

camisadelgolf
11-22-2007, 08:53 AM
If she really loves to show off her body, why would she put her pictures on private?:confused:

Maybe it's related to the fact that if she publicly shows nudity, MySpace will ban her account.

MaineRed
11-22-2007, 09:40 AM
Are you guys that are trying to view this chicks pictures, Jet fans?

WMR
11-22-2007, 10:20 AM
Are you guys that are trying to view this chicks pictures, Jet fans?

Don't feel left out, MaineRed, I think 49er fans are the scum of the Earth as well. :)

Gainesville Red
11-22-2007, 10:42 AM
Are you guys that are trying to view this chicks pictures, Jet fans?

In my defense, I thought we were talking about the "baby chicken" type of chicks.

They're so cute.

WVRed
11-22-2007, 11:08 AM
In my defense, I thought we were talking about the "baby chicken" type of chicks.

They're so cute.

Hot Chicks!!!
http://www.moyerschicks.com/MC-Web/Portals/57ad7180-c5e7-49f5-b282-c6475cdb7ee7/baby_chicks.jpg

And no, I am a Bengals fan.:)