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dougdirt
11-26-2007, 12:42 PM
Milb.com is starting to release its Top 50 Prospect list today with #41-50. Surprisingly they have Johnny Cueto at #47 overall (http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/news/top50/y2008/profile.jsp?t=p_top&pid=456501).

I have Cueto at #15 overall on my list, but could see him falling somewhere between 10-25 on mosts lists, but 47 is way too low for me. Yeah, he is short.... but is that really dropping him that far down the list?

pahster
11-26-2007, 12:56 PM
Cueto's not tall enough to sell a nice pair of jeans.

Benihana
11-26-2007, 02:15 PM
I would think of him (and Votto) more in the 20-30 range. 47 does seem a bit low.

fearofpopvol1
11-26-2007, 02:36 PM
47 seems ridculously low. I won't pretend to know all the players that will make the top 50, but I would've thought Cueto would've been a top 25 kind of guy.

dougdirt
11-26-2007, 02:38 PM
47 seems ridculously low. I won't pretend to know all the players that will make the top 50, but I would've thought Cueto would've been a top 25 kind of guy.

I will be VERY surprised if he is any lower than 30 on any list that comes out from this point forward.

GoReds33
11-26-2007, 03:52 PM
I can't stand these things. The only reason he isn't higher is because he's not 4 inches taller. Don't give me that. He's still dominant. I hope he continues to tear it up, and shows those people they were wrong.

RedsManRick
11-26-2007, 05:05 PM
Last year they had Tim Lincecum at #26. Lincecum was otherworldly dominant, as opposed to Cueto's merely being really really good, but he's also got two years on him.

Ahead of him
#3 Bailey, CIN
#4 Hughes, NYY
#10 Gallardo, MIL
#11 Elbert, LAD
#12 Pelfrey, NYM
#14 Adam Miller, CLE
#19 Andrew Miller, DET
#20 Adenhart, LAA
#21 Garza, MIN

Behind him:
#30 Hochevar, KC
#34 Danks, CHW
#39 Lofgren, CLE
#42 Kershawm LAD
#45 Rogers, MIL
#46 Volstad, FLA
#47 Slowey, MIN
#48 Hirsch, HOU (now COL)

Roughly 1/3 of that full list hit the majors to stay last year, much less so in terms of pitchers however.

Benihana
11-27-2007, 11:17 AM
Votto comes in at #34 on this year's rankings. IMO he and Cueto should be very close to each other, about ten spots higher than this.

HBP
11-27-2007, 11:47 PM
I think Votto at #34 is about right. His defensive rep - deserved or not - probably stops him from getting top 25.

Benihana
11-30-2007, 11:04 AM
Bruce #1
Bailey #9
Votto #34
Cueto #47

I think Bruce and Bailey are exactly where they should be. Votto and Cueto should be in the 20-30 range IMO.

dougdirt
11-30-2007, 12:18 PM
That list is an ABSOLUTE JOKE. Seriously. Adam Miller in the top 10? One scout pretends as if he has never even heard of Jay Bruce with the comment in his write up


When told that Bruce would be topping our Top 50 list, one scout said, "Wow, that's got to be one special bat for a corner outfielder to be No. 1." The implication is that since Bruce won't end up playing a premium position and isn't as pure a five-tool player as some other outfielders on this list, he must be able to flat-out rake if the scouting industry considers him to be the best prospect in all baseball.
How can I honestly take a list serious when one of the people involved in making it says he must have a special bat if....? It comes off like the guy doesn't even know who he is. I think Bruce is the #1 prospect in baseball and would be very surprised if any list didn't have him at #1, but just wow.
Adam Miller was #14 last year. This year he pitches 65 innings, allows 68 hits, a .265 BAA and a 4.82 ERA in AAA and moves up 4 spots?!
Cameron Maybin at #3.... simply wow is all I can say.
Andrew McCutchen at #8? I like the kid and all, but no way is he this high.

*BaseClogger*
11-30-2007, 12:33 PM
That list is an ABSOLUTE JOKE. Seriously. Adam Miller in the top 10? One scout pretends as if he has never even heard of Jay Bruce with the comment in his write up

How can I honestly take a list serious when one of the people involved in making it says he must have a special bat if....? It comes off like the guy doesn't even know who he is. I think Bruce is the #1 prospect in baseball and would be very surprised if any list didn't have him at #1, but just wow.
Adam Miller was #14 last year. This year he pitches 65 innings, allows 68 hits, a .265 BAA and a 4.82 ERA in AAA and moves up 4 spots?!
Cameron Maybin at #3.... simply wow is all I can say.
Andrew McCutchen at #8? I like the kid and all, but no way is he this high.

I agree. I understand that we need scouting to compliment statistical analysis, but it seems that this list was put together with TOTAL DISREGARD to statistical analysis...

*BaseClogger*
11-30-2007, 12:34 PM
I can't stand these things. The only reason he isn't higher is because he's not 4 inches taller. Don't give me that. He's still dominant. I hope he continues to tear it up, and shows those people they were wrong.

Are we talking about Troy Smith?

GoReds33
11-30-2007, 11:20 PM
Luke Hochevar... hah. Thank God Cueto's not behind that guy.

Matt700wlw
12-01-2007, 08:32 PM
Look who's #1!

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/news/top50/y2008/