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Cyclone792
12-03-2007, 09:16 PM
Most sports fans are fans of multiple sports, some fans being fans of a wide array of teams or individuals in a wide array of sports. Any given sports fan is usually a fan of two, three, four, sometimes even more different sports teams among different sports. RedsZone is a Reds board, but reach outside MLB's reigns and RZers oftentimes are quite different in who their favorite teams are in other sports.

So I'll ask a question here that I've asked to others before, and to me it's an interesting question that oftentimes yields some pretty interesting answers because it cuts right down to which single sports team an individual is tied to the most emotionally.

You have the choice of only one of your favorite sports teams - across any and all sports - winning its respective league championship. You get to experience that full season - regular season and any playoffs - in whatever way would be the most fulfulling to you, but you only get to experience it for one season and for only one of your favorite teams.

Which team would you want to win its respective league championship in the future, and why?

Would it be a Reds World Series victory? A Bengals Super Bowl? An NCAA hoops championshp? A BCS Championship? Your favorite NBA team winning the NBA Finals, or your favorite NHL team winning the Stanley Cup? Perhaps something else?

I expect this to be a little bit biased in one certain direction because of the type of sports forum I'm posting this on, but I still expect the answers to be interesting.

redsfan1966
12-03-2007, 09:20 PM
Reds World Series victory in 1990...actually got to go to all of the playoff games between Cincy and Pittsburgh and the two games at home vs. Oakland....lots of great memories... hanging with Ohio U students who also made the trek to Pittsburgh...the celebration in downtown Cincy after the NL playoffs....sleeping in my car to get World Series tix the next morning. Unfortunately I get the feeling it may have been a once in a lifetime moment.

RedFanAlways1966
12-03-2007, 09:31 PM
I am a die-hard Bengals, Ohio State and REDS fan. But the REDS (and baseball) have always been #1 in my heart. I was a 9-10 year old when the BRM won it, but I didn't really get it. I am plenty old enough to remember 1990 and loved that feeling. I want that 1990 feeling again in my middle-age years. So much so that I'd give my left... uhh, umm, left pinky toe to have it.

WMR
12-03-2007, 09:37 PM
I love the Reds and Bengals dearly... but UK basketball is number one for me.

KronoRed
12-03-2007, 09:37 PM
From this list the Reds obviously, but Florida at most sports would be 1st, not that I don't love the Reds but I grew up with Florida.

WMR
12-03-2007, 09:43 PM
From this list the Reds obviously, but Florida at most sports would be 1st, not that I don't love the Reds but I grew up with Florida.

Do you keep this information secret from your neighbors?? ;) :laugh:

MaineRed
12-03-2007, 09:54 PM
I'll gladly take a Reds championship but I voted other and would say the Celtics. Been 21 years since their last title.

OnBaseMachine
12-03-2007, 09:57 PM
The Reds, easily. I was only three years old when the Reds last won a World Series. The Reds always have and always will be my favorite sports team, by far.

KronoRed
12-03-2007, 10:00 PM
Do you keep this information secret from your neighbors?? ;) :laugh:

Bunch of Bengal fans near me, what are they gonna say? :D

MWM
12-03-2007, 10:01 PM
Reds
Bengals
Buckeye Football
UC Basketball
My alma mater in any sport (will NEVER happen. This one would be second to the Reds if there was any chance in hell of it ever happening).

BuckWoody
12-03-2007, 10:04 PM
So I'll ask a question here that I've asked to others before, and to me it's an interesting question that oftentimes yields some pretty interesting answers because it cuts right down to which single sports team an individual is tied to the most emotionally.
Great topic Cyclone. One thing though, I'm not so sure about the part of your post that I've quoted. I don't necessarily think that it reveals which team that you're most emotionally attached to rather, for me at least, it's the team that I've endured the most hardships with. Let me elaborate.

I'm old enough to have seen the Big Red Machine play and have great memories of them. Obviously I remember the 1990 title as well. Three World Series championships in my lifetime is more than most fans my age can claim of their favorite team.

I got to see the Buckeyes win a title just a few years back and, quite frankly, it's not very tough to be a Buckeye fan. They are consistently contending for league and national titles and their down periods are few and far between.

My answer without hesitation would be to see the Bengals win a Super Bowl. We as Bengals fans have been the epitome of "long suffering". We've cheered for a team that was a national joke for the better part of a decade due to their ineptitude on the field. Then we get a small taste of success and it's right back to punchline status with their troubles off the field. Tell someone you're a Bengals fan and it elicits laughs, smirks, and any number of dismissive comments. It seems like you're constantly defending your status as a fan. I've been through a lot with that team and I'm still on board. A Super Bowl win (however unlikely) would be about the sweetest sports experience that I can think of.

That doesn't necessarily mean I have more of an emotional attachment to the Bengals though. I don't "love" them any more than the Reds or Buckeyes, but a title sure would put a lot of demons to rest...if only for a season or two.

Raisor
12-03-2007, 10:05 PM
ATLANTA THRASHERS~!

I've been around for a few Reds WS wins, and while I always want another one, I need a Stanley Cup in Atlanta.

Need.

OldRightHander
12-03-2007, 10:13 PM
The Reds are far and away my favorite sports team, but for many of the same reasons BuckWoody mentioned I think a Super Bowl win by the Bengals would be the most satisfying. I'm also a fan of the St. Louis Blues, who have never won a Stanley Cup. If the Bengals could win the Super Bowl and the Blues win the Stanley Cup, I would be a very happy man. I am more emotionally invested in the Reds, but I can remember three championships. That's pretty darn good and more than a lot of sports fans can say.

Degenerate39
12-03-2007, 10:44 PM
Easily the Reds and the Bengals at a close 2nd.

will5979
12-04-2007, 12:09 AM
No question about it, the Reds are my #1...

a close #2 is my WV Mountaineers Football team
a long shot #3 are the Bungals, they are my fav. NFL team but compared to the top 2 I could really care less what they do! So really the Reds and Mountaineers are the only teams I will shed tears for, and yes I have shed for both of them!

Highlifeman21
12-04-2007, 01:39 AM
1. Reds win another World Series
2. Xavier wins a Men's Hoops NCAA Championship
3. Syracuse wins another Men's Hoops NCAA Championship
4. Ernie Els wins another Major
5. Bengals win a Super Bowl.

That's my Top 5 wish list.

Caseyfan21
12-04-2007, 01:50 AM
I've seen OSU win a national championship, and get to now 2 others.

Gotta go with the Reds because I was too young to remember 1990. I barely remember 1995 so my only vivid memory of winning Reds baseball is 1999.

Jpup
12-04-2007, 04:45 AM
The Reds and it's not even close.

My 2nd choice would, of course, be the Tennessee Titans winning the Super Bowl. I could care less about basketball anymore. I used to be a huge Carolina fan from about the age of 12 to 20, but then I just got over it. I can't hardly watch basketball for more than 10 minutes. I wouldn't mind seeing UK win a football national title. I'm a Yankee fan to a point, but the Reds are "my" team. If it came down to the Yankees and Reds, it would be the Reds without hesitation.

Roy Tucker
12-04-2007, 09:51 AM
I think because of the everyday aspect of baseball, a MLB World Championship is the biggest reward.

The question "how did the Reds do today?" is one asked from April 1 through October 1.

Reds ballgames are part of every day life and a baseball season is a marathon.

Danny Serafini
12-04-2007, 10:12 AM
I'd take a Bengals Super Bowl, simply because all of my other teams have won a title at some point.

RichRed
12-04-2007, 10:25 AM
This is a tough one but I'd have to give the edge to the Redskins winning a Super Bowl, followed VERY closely by the Reds winning the World Series. I just live and die a little more by each Redskins game than I do with the Reds.

Also, it was pretty awesome when my alma mater, James Madison, won the I-AA National Championship in '04 and if they were to go on some kind of miracle George Mason-like run in the NCAA basketball tournament, that would top everything just because of the improbability of it all.

But realistically, it's gotta be the Skins at #1 and the Reds at #1A.

bucksfan2
12-04-2007, 10:40 AM
Great topic.

I really don't rank the teams I follow as #1,2,3 or so on. It really is a seasonal thing. I am big time reds, bengals, and buckeye fans. I have seen a buckeye championship, and two title game losses in basketball and football. I remember the reds 90 world series title and the bengals super bowl. But if I had to pick a favorite championship I would want to see the bengals win the super bowl. I just think that it is the least likely to happen. I think with the dymanics of college athetics OSU has an advantage over most universities because of their budget and facilities. I think the reds will eventually get their chance to win. I just think the large scale that the super bowl is played on would be the ultimate. The thing that turns me off right now about the reds is that football is full swing when the baseball playoffs roll around.

Joseph
12-04-2007, 10:59 AM
I complain about the Reds not winning. I complain about the Bengals not winning. But, as I look at it, I've been blessed as a sports fan.

I'm 33. In my lifetime I've seen my baseball team win a World Series [techincally 3, but I was too little to root, care, or notice 75 and 76]. I've seen my favorite NBA team win six championships. I've seen my college team win two championships [again technically 3, but I don't remember 1978 as I was 3 going or 4]. I've seen my NFL team reach two Superbowls, and I've seen my Hockey team play for a Stanley Cup.

So realistically in 33 years I've seen 12 championships. Thats not the worst ratio in the world.

I hope I see a lot more especially from the Reds.

Oh, my teams are the Reds, Bengals, UK, Bulls, and Blackhawks.

BRM
12-04-2007, 11:32 AM
Well, the Colts just won their first Super Bowl that leaves it between the Reds and Hoosiers. I'd call it a tie between the Reds winning a World Series again and the Hoosiers winning another NCAA championship in hoops.

For now, I'll settle for an IU victory this Saturday over those evil Wildcats. :)

Puffy
12-04-2007, 11:45 AM
The Giants winning another Superbowl. It used to be a toss-up between the Giants and the Reds and the Reds might have even been my favorite favorite team, but Lindner, Boone, Miley and Krivsky have beaten me into submission and now it is no longer even close - The Giants are clearly my favorite of the favorites.

cumberlandreds
12-04-2007, 02:41 PM
Tough one for me. I have equal amount of passion for UK basketball and the Reds. I have been very fortunate to see both of those teams win multiple (3 each) championships in my life. But if forced, I would lean just a little to UK basketball.

WMR
12-04-2007, 02:42 PM
Tough one for me. I have equal amount of passion for UK basketball and the Reds. I have been very fortunate to see both of those teams win multiple (3 each) championships in my life. But if forced, I would lean just a little to UK basketball.

GOOD MAN

Javy Pornstache
12-04-2007, 02:50 PM
Tough one for me. I have equal amount of passion for UK basketball and the Reds. I have been very fortunate to see both of those teams win multiple (3 each) championships in my life. But if forced, I would lean just a little to UK basketball.

Agreed, my fren.

BRM
12-04-2007, 02:51 PM
GOOD MAN

:rolleyes:

Only in your warped brain...:p:

WMR
12-04-2007, 03:03 PM
:rolleyes:

Only in your warped brain...:p:

GET YOUR SHOTS IN WHILE YOU STILL CAN, BIG BOY

MaineRed
12-04-2007, 03:05 PM
Did you spill some super glue on your caps button or are you yelling :)?

WMR
12-04-2007, 03:09 PM
Did you spill some super glue on your caps button or are you yelling :)?

Hehe yelling. I am a very expressive typer. :laugh:

I also considered typing like t-h-i-s.

Yanno, you gotta speak slowly to Indiana fans... they're not the brightest bunch. They get confused easily. Sort of like their Coach's understanding of phone call restrictions. hahahahah

MaineRed
12-04-2007, 03:11 PM
Y o u s h o u l d t y p e l i k e t h i s w h e n y o u f e e l t h e u r g e t o t a l k LIKE THIS.

:beerme:

BRM
12-04-2007, 03:12 PM
Yeah, you need to speak slow and loud to us. Wait, that's just the normal speech pattern for Kentuckians isn't it?

WMR
12-04-2007, 03:12 PM
hehe don't make me bust out my enlarged font on ya

I usually saved that for Milton pitching appearances. lmao

WMR
12-04-2007, 03:13 PM
Yeah, you need to speak slow and loud to us. Wait, that's just the normal speech pattern for Kentuckians isn't it?

I knew that was coming!!

BRM
12-04-2007, 03:13 PM
GET YOUR SHOTS IN WHILE YOU STILL CAN, BIG BOY

Billy G's got a train wreck going on in Lexington with the defections. I just hope he has enough kids left to play come Saturday.

MaineRed
12-04-2007, 03:13 PM
:cool:

WMR
12-04-2007, 03:15 PM
Billy G's got a train wreck going on in Lexington with the defections. I just hope he has enough kids left to play come Saturday.

Me too! :eek:

BRM
12-04-2007, 03:18 PM
They wouldn't have this problem with unhappy players if they had only hired Mike Davis.

WMR
12-04-2007, 03:19 PM
They wouldn't have this problem with unhappy players if they had only hired Mike Davis.

I can't believe you guys let him get away.

BRM
12-04-2007, 03:21 PM
I can't believe you guys let him get away.

Yeah, the Hoosiers have been in a downward spiral ever since...

cumberlandreds
12-04-2007, 03:24 PM
Yeah, the Hoosiers have been in a downward spiral ever since...

Yes, but the telephone bills are on an upward spiral.;)

WMR
12-04-2007, 03:26 PM
Yes, but the telephone bills are on an upward spiral.;)

Hahahahahahahahaha...

"Now our night-time rates start at 6 p.m.!!"

http://www.turtletrack.org/Issues02/Co05042002/Art/sampson.jpg

Chip R
12-04-2007, 03:31 PM
If you UK and IU fans want to talk smack, start your own thread and stop hijacking this one.

BRM
12-04-2007, 03:33 PM
Yes, but the telephone bills are on an upward spiral.;)

:laugh:


If you UK and IU fans want to talk smack, start your own thread and stop hijacking this one.

Sorry boss. I didn't realize we were intruding so badly.

RedsBaron
12-04-2007, 10:31 PM
The Reds are always the team I most want to see win a championship, but my favorite championship teams over the years come from a variety of sports:
My top ten:
10. Green Bay Packers 1996 (actually the Super Bowl win was in Jan. 1997). I didn't really start following pro football unitl just after the Lombardi era ended in Green Bay, but through books such as "Instant Replay" I felt as if I had been a Packers fan anyway. I really enjoyed seeing Favre, White & Co. bring the Lombardi Trophy back home to Green Bay.
9. Los Angeles Lakers 1972. I've never been a big NBA fan, but I did follow the Lakers teams of the early 1970s. If you are a West Virginian, you have to be a fan of Jerry West, but I was also a big Wilt fan, in part because it seemed as if no one else cheered for him. Wilt once lamented that "no one roots for Goliath." I did.
8. Rick Mears 1991 Indy 500 win. Okay, Indy car racing isn't normally thought of as a team sport, but I was a big fan of Mears and his winning a record tying fourth Indy 500 was special.
7. Cincinnati Reds 1990. I enjoyed it, but this World Series didn't mean as much to me as two others, perhaps because I was older.
6. Oakland Raiders 1976 (The Raiders Super Bowl rout of the Vikings was actually in Jan. 1977). I was a huge Raiders fan during the John Madden era and it was great to see Snake Stabler, "Kick 'Em In The Head Ted," Biletnikoff, Upshaw, Shell, Old Man Willie, et al, finally win the big one.
5. Marshall Thundering Herd 1992. The Herd's victory in the 1992 1-AA championship game brought a national title home to the city and school devastated by the plane crash of two decades earlier. I wasn't at the game though because of family obligations, although I did get to see the winning field goal on TV.
4. Marshall Thundering Herd 1996. I was at Marshall Stadium for the Herd's second 1-AA title, a 49-29 win that wasn't that close (MU lead 46-6 at one point).
3. Wayne Pioneers 2006. Most people wouldn't care that much about a high school team winning a state football championship 33 years after graduating high school, but I still live in the Wayne community, and my sons attend Wayne High School just like their mom and dad, and their grandparents, did. While Wayne had won state titles in other sports, the Pioneers had never captured a state football championship until that bitterly cold night in Wheeling, WV, in December 2006, winning 33-6. Even at age 51, that one was special.
2. Cincinnati Reds 1976. My joy in the Reds sweep was tempered only my the thought that I was witnessing the peak, that the Reds would never ever be so dominant again.
1. Cincinnati Reds 1975. I had grown up watching Rose, Perez, Bench, Nolan and Carroll; Anderson, Morgan, Concepcion, Gullett, Foster, Griffey, Geronimo, Borbon and Billingham had all been added while as I was still a teenager. I had suffered with them in their post-season defeats of 1970, 1972 and 1973, and the disappointment of 1974. One of my sweetest memories is watching game seven with my dad and seeing the Big Red Machine finally win it all. This One Belongs To The Reds!

Cyclone792
12-04-2007, 10:50 PM
Great topic Cyclone. One thing though, I'm not so sure about the part of your post that I've quoted. I don't necessarily think that it reveals which team that you're most emotionally attached to rather, for me at least, it's the team that I've endured the most hardships with. Let me elaborate.

I'm old enough to have seen the Big Red Machine play and have great memories of them. Obviously I remember the 1990 title as well. Three World Series championships in my lifetime is more than most fans my age can claim of their favorite team.

I got to see the Buckeyes win a title just a few years back and, quite frankly, it's not very tough to be a Buckeye fan. They are consistently contending for league and national titles and their down periods are few and far between.

My answer without hesitation would be to see the Bengals win a Super Bowl. We as Bengals fans have been the epitome of "long suffering". We've cheered for a team that was a national joke for the better part of a decade due to their ineptitude on the field. Then we get a small taste of success and it's right back to punchline status with their troubles off the field. Tell someone you're a Bengals fan and it elicits laughs, smirks, and any number of dismissive comments. It seems like you're constantly defending your status as a fan. I've been through a lot with that team and I'm still on board. A Super Bowl win (however unlikely) would be about the sweetest sports experience that I can think of.

That doesn't necessarily mean I have more of an emotional attachment to the Bengals though. I don't "love" them any more than the Reds or Buckeyes, but a title sure would put a lot of demons to rest...if only for a season or two.

For a lot of people, you may very well be right.

One thing that went through my mind when I thought about this question was "how does the effect of a recent championship for one specific sports team alter a fan's opinion?" Many Reds fans into their 30s and older have a pretty good memory of the 1990 squad, and many Reds fans even older have fond memories of the Big Red Machine so the desire for another Reds championship may not be as great.

Another thing that went through my mind, for example, was if somebody ever asked this same question to New England sports fans prior to 2004 when the Red Sox won the World Series.

I really had no idea just how much those people absolutely loved that baseball club until the 2004 postseason. The infamous "Win it for ... " Sons of Sam Horn thread from that postseason is perhaps some of the greatest sports writing I've ever read. It was pure emotion, straight from the heart, from legions of lifetime Red Sox fans. The Red Sox just weren't a baseball team to those people, but something much more. There were hundreds and hundreds of stories of fans just breaking down when the Red Sox won it, because all they could think of in that moment was all the time growing up they had spent with their dad or grandfather and all the times they had shared watching their favorite baseball team. It became apparent to me that to those fans, that baseball team was much more than a simple baseball team. It was a connection to their youth, to their family, to whole bunch of things they cherished in life at one time or another.

In a way, I think Reds fans experienced something similar with the outpouring of emotion surrounding Joe Nuxhall's passing. It seemed to me that when people asked Joe, he'd simply say he was a pretty good pitcher who went on to be a pretty good radio announcer, and he had a ton of fun doing it. But for thousands of Reds fans, Joe Nuxhall was much, much more than just that.

Caveat Emperor
12-04-2007, 11:00 PM
I've been lucky enough, in my lifetime, to see each of my favorite professional sports teams (Cincinnati Reds, Pittsburgh Penguins, Tampa Bay Buccaneers) win a championship.

Due to the current two-tier divide in college sports, between BCS and non-BCS, it's impossible for my alma mater Tulane University to ever win a football national championship.

I therefore want most to see the Green Wave make the Final Four. I think, given random chance (think: George Mason), I've got maybe a 2-3% shot of seeing that happen in my lifetime.

You Buckeye-type fans don't realize how good you have it. ;)

WebScorpion
12-06-2007, 04:26 PM
Always the Reds. They have always been, and always will be #1 in my heart. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to see the Bengals win it all after all these years of suffering and the two close calls snuffed out by Joe Frickin-Montana, but the Reds always come first. While we're wishing, could it be in a season where the Reds are HUGE longshots and could I be blessed with the certain knowledge that they'd win it before the season began? That'd sure go a long way toward my enjoying it and basking in the money, er, glory in the following years. :fineprint

BuckeyeRedleg
12-06-2007, 05:29 PM
The Buckeyes barely, and I mean just barely nip the Reds.

If I had to rate them:

OSU football 100
Cincinnati Reds 99
OSU basketball 90

huge drop off here....

Cincinnati Bengals 60
Columbus Blue Jackets 50

another drop off...

OSU baseball 30
Cleveland Cavaliers 20
OSU Hockey 20
Columbus Crew 10

GAC
12-06-2007, 09:30 PM
While baseball, and the Reds, are my #1 passion, and for football it's the Browns and OSU, in my lifetime I've witnessed the Reds winning WS (3 times), and OSU winning a national title (twice), so I'd still like to see the Browns win a Super Bowl.

http://www.finalplaysports.com/prodimages/AF%20NFL/AFBR%20Cleveland%20Browns%20lg.jpg

deltachi8
12-06-2007, 11:05 PM
I've seen the Reds win three (75, 76, 90), my Steelers win 3 (79, 80, 06), Syracuse Basketball win in 2003 ....what I am missing...what I need...

A Stanley Cup in Buffalo.

Although it is my second favorite sport, it is my favorite Championship.

WVRed
12-06-2007, 11:13 PM
I'm with WMR and Kentucky, as much as I love the Reds and Bengals.

1998 was the year that did it for me. Tubby Smith inherited a team that had pretty much lost all of the key components to the 97 runner up team, and played IMO the game that justified the Duke heartbreaker in 92, coming back from 17 down with 9:38 to go. They also came back from a double digit halftime deficit against Stanford and Utah to win it all.

GoGoWhiteSox
12-06-2007, 11:28 PM
Well, since I've already seen the White Sox win it all, the Reds would be my next pick, and I voted for them. I was just 2 when the Reds last won a World Series, so I obviously don't remember that.

I would really love to see the White Sox win it again though! :D

BuckeyeRedleg
12-07-2007, 12:10 AM
I've seen the Reds win three (75, 76, 90), my Steelers win 3 (79, 80, 06)

Didn't the Steelers win in '75 and '76 as well?

deltachi8
12-07-2007, 12:42 AM
Didn't the Steelers win in '75 and '76 as well?

Yes, but I started following them in 1977 when I was 8 - football came after baseball in becoming a fan.

BuckeyeRedleg
12-07-2007, 12:54 AM
Yes, but I started following them in 1977 when I was 8 - football came after baseball in becoming a fan.

So you were like so many of my friends and jumped on the Steelers wagon in the 70's. I was no better as I picked the other team of the that day, the Cowboys. The sad thing is that I picked the wrong one. I gave up on the Cowboys the day they broke my heart for the last time, when Dwight Clark made "the catch" from Montana. I cried like a little baby that day. Probably because I knew all my little Steeler friends were going to laugh at me on the playground the next day.

So, I did what any 10 year old would do that had their heart broken by Montana, I went with the Bengals as they made it the SB that year against Montana's 49'ers. I figured I'm already a Reds fan, why not just make it complete and go with the Bengals as my NFL team. Little did I know back then what kind of turmoil that catch by Clark would do to my NFL fandom for the next three decades. The Cowboys would win three SB's in the 90's and I had the pleasure of rooting on arguably the worst franchise in professional sports. What a big mistake that was. But now it's too late, I can't leave them as much as it pains me to see them continue their losing ways for another decade.

Fil3232
12-07-2007, 03:44 PM
Miami University National Championship
Reds World Series
Bengals Super Bowl
Philly Mick winning a major again.

WVPacman
12-07-2007, 06:54 PM
1)WVU Mountaineers football
2)Redskins
3)Reds
4)Georgetown Hoyas basketball
5)New York Knicks

Favorite championship
1)Redskins superbowl wins
2)Reds World Series wins
3)Georgetown national championship

Patrick Bateman
12-07-2007, 07:05 PM
Reds (Barely)
Blackhawks (Hockey)
Bengals

BuckeyeRed27
12-07-2007, 07:30 PM
Buckeyes have to be first for me. There just isn't anything else I'm more passionate about. Reds would be a very close second. After that it would be the Utah Jazz and then the Bengals.

deltachi8
12-07-2007, 08:02 PM
So you were like so many of my friends and jumped on the Steelers wagon in the 70's.

Yes, I guess that's fair. I grew up between Rochester and Buffalo, NY when the Bill's were just awful most of the time. That meant home games didn't sell out and were rarely on TV and most adults around just complained about how bad they were. So why did I want to root for them I thought? The Steelers, were usually on TV and I kept hearing good things about the.

The first game I can remember watching was a Steeler loss to the Broncos in 77 in the snow. After that, when ever pick up football was played, I wanted to be Lynn Swan on offense and Donnie Shell on defense.