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AmarilloRed
12-05-2007, 11:05 PM
Cubs Aggressively Pursuing Brian Roberts

UPDATE, 12-5-07 at 8:17pm: ESPN's Steve Phillips says the Orioles "would get Rich Hill and Sean Marshall" for Roberts. Not sure if that means the Cubs offered it. Seems like a lot, but I am an unabashed Rich Hill fan.

AmarilloRed
12-05-2007, 11:06 PM
Brian Roberts is an All-Star at second base, but this seems like an awful lot of pitching to give up for a middle infielder.

Bip Roberts
12-05-2007, 11:16 PM
Great news for the reds i think

AmarilloRed
12-05-2007, 11:21 PM
I would have liked to land either Rich Hill or Sean Marshall. I would have been ecstatic if we could have gotten both. I see how it weakens the Cubs as far as starting pitching, though.

757690
12-05-2007, 11:22 PM
10:03 p.m., from Amy Nelson
• If Brian Roberts is traded to the Cubs, it's believed that it might not happen until the Orioles complete a trade for either Erik Bedard or Miguel Tejada. According to a source with knowledge of Baltimore's trade talks, the O's have had so much interest in their players that they "have a lot on their table." But the relationship between Andy McPhail and Cubs GM Jim Hendry dates back several years, so a trade could happen faster than it would with other clubs. Rich Hill, originally thought to be part of a deal, is currently not in the discussions. Instead, Chicago likely would send upper-level prospects to Baltimore. Among the names being considered are Sean Marshall, Sean Gallagher, Felix Pie and Donnie Veal .


So Hill is not part of the proposed deal. This seems more likely.

Bip Roberts
12-05-2007, 11:23 PM
Felix Pie has to be one of the most over hyped players in baseball right now. The dude is almost the equivalent of Dickerson

ED44
12-05-2007, 11:23 PM
It definitely seems like the Cubbies would be overpaying...so, I am all for it. Roberts is a good leadoff man, but giving up two quality young arms for an aging middle-infielder seems crazy.

AmarilloRed
12-05-2007, 11:26 PM
Rich Hill seems to be out of the deal, so it looks a little different. Sean Marshall or one of the others seems a more equitable deal.

*BaseClogger*
12-05-2007, 11:27 PM
Felix Pie has to be one of the most over hyped players in baseball right now. The dude is almost the equivalent of Dickerson

who is more overhyped... Pie or Maybin?

Bip Roberts
12-05-2007, 11:29 PM
who is more overhyped... Pie or Maybin?

Pie to me just because Maybin is younger

ED44
12-05-2007, 11:31 PM
who is more overhyped... Pie or Maybin?


I would say Pie, because he is a Cubbie...it seems like they ALWAYS overhype their youngsters...just like they did with Patterson before him. Maybe it's because we are in the same division and I follow them more than the Tigers though. I still think Maybin will be player (too bad no one will know it now he's a Marlin).

TN Red Fan
12-05-2007, 11:32 PM
I said this in another thread, but if the Orioles trade Roberts, doesn't that make Brandon Phillips extremely attractive to them in a deal for Bedard?

Natty Redlocks
12-05-2007, 11:36 PM
I said this in another thread, but if the Orioles trade Roberts, doesn't that make Brandon Phillips extremely attractive to them in a deal for Bedard?

I'm totally with you here. I'd rather give up Phillips than Hamilton, Votto, or Encarnacion. Removing speedy guys with low OBP is the best way to Dusty-proof your lineup.

TN Red Fan
12-05-2007, 11:37 PM
The Orioles are sure to get some pitching out of the Angels for Tejada as well.

hippie07
12-05-2007, 11:51 PM
Well, if the Reds trade Phillips .... they dumped Cantu... so, that leaves Kepp & Castro... that seems shaky, but honestly I have no problem w/ Kepp playing on a regular basis, our defense would suffer, though, and WK said he expects Kepp to platoon w/ Votto... but honestly I'm not sure he means that ...
If we traded Phillips we'd shed some payroll in order to make room for Bedard... Phillips is due a big raise..
but I just don't this happening ... Who knows though.

*BaseClogger*
12-05-2007, 11:52 PM
We can still trade Hatteberg for a RH 1b or a 2b in that scenario... Ryan Freel can play 2b too...

757690
12-06-2007, 12:02 AM
Phillips is not going anywhere. Calm down guys.
First, why would you want to trade a proven 30-30 guy instead of unproven talent?
Second, it doesn't matter. The Orioles, are showing with this proposed trade for Roberts, that they are rebuilding. The do not want big salaries, they want close to major league ready prospects.

*BaseClogger*
12-06-2007, 12:04 AM
Phillips is not going anywhere. Calm down guys.
First, why would you want to trade a proven 30-30 guy instead of unproven talent?
Second, it doesn't matter. The Orioles, are showing with this proposed trade for Roberts, that they are rebuilding. The do not want big salaries, they want close to major league ready prospects.

I want to trade a proven 30/30 guy who is overrated and is coming off of a career year and I doubt he will ever equal the same output... What does "757690" mean anywho?

757690
12-06-2007, 12:06 AM
What does "757690" mean anywho?

Think World Series.

Natty Redlocks
12-06-2007, 12:08 AM
I want to trade a proven 30/30 guy who is overrated and is coming off of a career year and I doubt he will ever equal the same output... What does "757690" mean anywho?

Okay, I wasn't even a Reds fan then, but even I know what that means.

The guy has a point; they're looking to add cheap players, plus the Reds love Phillips. Reds fans love Phillips. And if Dusty doesn't love Phillips I'll eat my dog.

*BaseClogger*
12-06-2007, 12:16 AM
I really didn't think very hard did I? Did I not notice this because everytime I wanted to write his name in a post I thought of it as "757" and "690" when I memorized it? Why do I keep talking in questions? Is this Who's Line is it Anyway?

Bip Roberts
12-06-2007, 12:28 AM
I didnt connect the dots either

TN Red Fan
12-06-2007, 12:41 AM
but I just don't this happening ... Who knows though.

Maybe it's something like Hamilton, Cueto, and Freel for Bedard.

Freel takes over for Roberts at 2B and as the leadoff hitter and Hamilton fills their hole in center.

I just know that last night the rumors were that the Reds and Orioles almost had a deal (Bruce/Cueto was too much, Hamilton/Cueto too little) and today I wake up and the Reds have made some strange releases and the Orioles are looking for pitching...

Very suspicious.

hippie07
12-06-2007, 01:45 AM
Maybe it's something like Hamilton, Cueto, and Freel for Bedard.

Freel takes over for Roberts at 2B and as the leadoff hitter and Hamilton fills their hole in center.

I just know that last night the rumors were that the Reds and Orioles almost had a deal (Bruce/Cueto was too much, Hamilton/Cueto too little) and today I wake up and the Reds have made some strange releases and the Orioles are looking for pitching...

Very suspicious.

And LH pitching at that ;)

ChatterRed
12-06-2007, 01:50 AM
The Marlins trade with the AL.

I suppose the Orioles want to trade with the NL so they don't have to face Bedard and hear it about from their fans.