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MWM
12-20-2007, 10:56 PM
I'm watching the ceremony right now as St. Louis is retiring his humber. It occurred to me that I'm not sure if he's appreciated by a lot of football fans for being as great as he was. He was truly one of the great players to ever play the football, and I don't know that anyone has been more classy.

The NFL needs more Marshall Faulks.

paintmered
12-20-2007, 10:59 PM
"With the first pick in the 1994 NFL draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Dan Wilkinson, defensive tackle, Ohio State......."

:bang:

deltachi8
12-20-2007, 11:33 PM
The trade that sent him to St Louis was one of those win-wins.

jmcclain19
12-20-2007, 11:52 PM
He got royally jobbed of the Heisman like no other.

George Anderson
12-20-2007, 11:57 PM
I'm watching the ceremony right now as St. Louis is retiring his humber. It occurred to me that I'm not sure if he's appreciated by a lot of football fans for being as great as he was. He was truly one of the great players to ever play the football, and I don't know that anyone has been more classy.

The NFL needs more Marshall Faulks.


What I like about Faulk is how incredibly humble he is. Its refreshing to hear him in the broadcast booth with Gumbel and Sanders and not wanting to talk about himself. Its not a real common trait amongst the NFL elite nowadays.

Caveat Emperor
12-21-2007, 12:06 AM
He's not a terrible color commentator either.

He makes listening to Bryant Gumble almost bearable.

MWM
12-21-2007, 12:16 AM
He's not a terrible color commentator either.
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Agree. I heard him for the first time last week in the Bengals game and didn't know I was listening to for a while, but really liked what I was hearing. When I realized it was Marshall Faulk it make total sense. He was always a really smart guy. As a commentator, he was thoughtful and insightful and didn't try to sensationalize everything. I tink he could become another Tom Jackson. He's great in the booth. I wish ESPN would put him on the pregame show instead of Keyshawn or Emmitt.

I knew someone from St. Louis in grad school who had several opportunities to interact with Marshall in a casual, non-professional setting and she said he was just a fantastic guy.

People who are looking for role models and athletes to idolize should look no further. Unfortunately, he was too Tim Duncan like to ever become a meadi darling.

Caveat Emperor
12-21-2007, 01:32 AM
Agree. I heard him for the first time last week in the Bengals game and didn't know I was listening to for a while, but really liked what I was hearing. When I realized it was Marshall Faulk it make total sense. He was always a really smart guy. As a commentator, he was thoughtful and insightful and didn't try to sensationalize everything. I tink he could become another Tom Jackson. He's great in the booth. I wish ESPN would put him on the pregame show instead of Keyshawn or Emmitt.

He's the first color commentator I've ever heard that was able to, pre-snap, read a defense and identify the correct target for the quarterback to hit with a pass. He did it several times during tonight's broadcast and really brought genuine insight to the game. His analysis didn't "dumb" the game down -- he talked to viewers operating from the assumption that they are NFL fans and already know what he means when he says "Base Cover 3 shell, 1 deep safety" or "Running the '4' route, deep inside cut" as a means of breaking the Tampa-2. I, for one, appreciate the hell out of it.

I hope he doesn't go to to ESPN, because he'd likely be under mandate to yell a lot more and bring less thoughtful insight to the table. I'm looking forward to hearing his work with NFLN the rest of the season.

cumberlandreds
12-21-2007, 08:14 AM
He's the first color commentator I've ever heard that was able to, pre-snap, read a defense and identify the correct target for the quarterback to hit with a pass. He did it several times during tonight's broadcast and really brought genuine insight to the game. His analysis didn't "dumb" the game down -- he talked to viewers operating from the assumption that they are NFL fans and already know what he means when he says "Base Cover 3 shell, 1 deep safety" or "Running the '4' route, deep inside cut" as a means of breaking the Tampa-2. I, for one, appreciate the hell out of it.

I hope he doesn't go to to ESPN, because he'd likely be under mandate to yell a lot more and bring less thoughtful insight to the table. I'm looking forward to hearing his work with NFLN the rest of the season.


Another commentator who could tell you the plays before they happened was Hank Stram. I used turn down the sound on MNF and listen to him and Jack Buck on the radio broadcast. He was uncanny at telling you what was going to be run. He almost never missed either. I really liked that. It helped understand the game better. Mostly theses guys now are nothing more than windbags who tell you nothing.

Dom Heffner
12-21-2007, 11:13 AM
"With the first pick in the 1994 NFL draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select Dan Wilkinson, defensive tackle, Ohio State......."


You'll still find Dave Shula apologists who defend that stupid, stupid, pick.

If a guy like Marshall Faulk is there, you take him. I want to say the Bengals had Harold Green at RB at the time.

It would be like the Texans passing up Carson Palmer because they already have Matt Schaub in the fold.

Dom Heffner
12-21-2007, 11:16 AM
He's the first color commentator I've ever heard that was able to, pre-snap, read a defense and identify the correct target for the quarterback to hit with a pass. He did it several times during tonight's broadcast and really brought genuine insight to the game.

I thought the same exact thing. Both he and Deion called things before they happened. It was super cool.

Someone please get rid of Bryant Gumbel as play by play man. Is there anyone else in the history of broadcasting who is so awful at calling a ball spot?

"Al Gore for 3 yards," he'll say as the back gets 2 or 4 yards. It's awful.

The only thing I didn't like was how they were not mentioning TJ's passing of Pickens and the way they were ragging the Bengal's defense. The D deserves to be shamed but you have to be more professional, IMHO.

redsfanmia
12-21-2007, 05:03 PM
I'm watching the ceremony right now as St. Louis is retiring his humber. It occurred to me that I'm not sure if he's appreciated by a lot of football fans for being as great as he was. He was truly one of the great players to ever play the football, and I don't know that anyone has been more classy.

The NFL needs more Marshall Faulks.

As a Colts fan I will argue with your assesment of someone being more classy. He flat didnt care if the team won or lost when he was here and has admitted as much during his first season or two with the Rams. He changed his ways with the Rams and redeemed himself.

gilpdawg
12-23-2007, 11:42 PM
As a Colts fan I will argue with your assesment of someone being more classy. He flat didnt care if the team won or lost when he was here and has admitted as much during his first season or two with the Rams. He changed his ways with the Rams and redeemed himself.
As a Colts fan, you gotta admit, those were some crappy teams he played on, except for the 95 & 96 teams. I'd be selfish too if I had to play on that team that started, what, 0-11 that one year? Heck, I've been a Colts fan since 1987 (I was 9) so it still seems weird to me that we are actually GOOD now.

LoganBuck
12-24-2007, 12:45 AM
You'll still find Dave Shula apologists who defend that stupid, stupid, pick.

If a guy like Marshall Faulk is there, you take him. I want to say the Bengals had Harold Green at RB at the time.

It would be like the Texans passing up Carson Palmer because they already have Matt Schaub in the fold.

What is wrong with taking the physical freak that was the consensus number one pick at a position of pressing need? The Bengals have been trying to fix that position since Krumrie retired. Big Daddy had a long productive career, he just never lived up to the expectations of greatness. Granted I would have rather have had Faulk and then Boselli the next year, instead of Kijana, but hindsight is 20-20