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Doc. Scott
01-04-2008, 09:12 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=699

Cincinnati Reds
Signed: RHP Dan Denham, LHP Chris Michalak, LHP Luca Panerati, LHP Adam Pettyjohn, LHP Matteo Pizziconi, 1B Kevin Barker, 1B Andy Phillips, 2B Andrew Green, 3B Jolbert Cabrera
Released: RHP Thomas Pauly, 2B Billy Rojo


Dilbert Cabrera! Had no idea he was still around.

TRF
01-04-2008, 09:30 PM
Keep Michalek and release Pauly? ok....

I hope he catches on somewhere. Bet JimBo grabs him. He had good K numbers in '07. so the arm strength must be returning. Still wild and still at high A. He must have been more severely injured than Gardner.

Doc. Scott
01-04-2008, 09:41 PM
No idea why Michalak was listed- I thought he'd resigned with the Nats after spending 2007 with them.

Doc. Scott
01-04-2008, 09:43 PM
Forgot to post the text about the two Italian players the Reds signed in that batch.
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The Reds signed two players from Italy, Panerati and Pizziconi, and it is the former who has the higher ceiling. The 6-foot-1, 156-pound Panerati, who turned 18 in December, pitched for Italy in the World Cup in Taiwan, the highlight coming when he struck out Cardinals top prospect Colby Rasmus. Panerati had struggled a year earlier against Team USA at the IBAF World Junior Championship in Cuba. He was named the top pitcher at the European Junior Championships when he was 17, pitching 12 1/3 scoreless innings with 14 strikeouts. Panerati’s fastball currently tops out at 86 mph with some life, and the pitch should gain velocity as his frame fills out. His go-to pitch is his changeup, which sits in the mid-70s and tails away from righthanders. He also throws a curveball. Pizziconi turned 18 in October, and at 6-foot-2 and 165 pounds he is another slender Italian lefthander. His delivery has some deception and his fastball tops out in the high-80s, but his secondary stuff is rudimentary. (Ben Badler)
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Doc. Scott
01-04-2008, 09:46 PM
Incidentally, the Tigers signed UT Caonabo Cosme, the Marlins INF Jorge Cantu, the Blue Jays RHR Bubba Nelson, Texas OF Jason Ellison, Pittsburgh RHR Elmer Dessens and C Miguel Perez, and the Mets RHR Juan Padilla.

TRF
01-04-2008, 09:55 PM
Why did I just KNOW Cantu would end up with the fish?

Tom Servo
01-04-2008, 10:56 PM
Michalak is fine as AAA fodder, but he better not get another start with the Reds.

Gallen5862
01-04-2008, 11:33 PM
Who are the best players out of that group of signings? Which of the pitchers and which of the position players do you seeing as having the highest ceilings or best chance of being called up to the majors?

Patrick Bateman
01-04-2008, 11:50 PM
Michalak is fine as AAA fodder, but he better not get another start with the Reds.

Well the point of AAA fodder is to make the odd major league appearance in emergency situations. If you can't trust a guy there, he makes for bad fodder.

It really doesn't matter one way or another, but it's funny having slow pitch guys like Michalek in that role just for kicks Any of the fodder guys are likely to get blasted anyways.

11larkin11
01-04-2008, 11:56 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=699

Cincinnati Reds
Signed: RHP Dan Denham, LHP Chris Michalak, LHP Luca Panerati, LHP Adam Pettyjohn, LHP Matteo Pizziconi, 1B Kevin Barker, 1B Andy Phillips, 2B Andrew Green, 3B Jolbert Cabrera
Released: RHP Thomas Pauly, 2B Billy Rojo


Dilbert Cabrera! Had no idea he was still around.


NOOOOOOOOO

Better be for some ST innings. Think about it. You have the current rotation as, seemingly, Harang-Arroyo-Belisle-Volquez-Bailey, then the AAA rotation as Cueto-Maloney-Gardner-LeCure-Fisher/Shearn...all 6 guys better than Michalak, unless hes going to the pen.

HokieRed
01-05-2008, 12:17 AM
I would like to have seen us give Dessens a shot.

Highlifeman21
01-05-2008, 01:03 AM
Maybe they signed Michalak so they can have him pitch BP in ST.

Soft tossing LHP simply eat us alive, and Chris Michalak is the epitome of a soft tossing LHP.

That's the only justification I can see for this move.

mth123
01-05-2008, 04:58 AM
Who are the best players out of that group of signings? Which of the pitchers and which of the position players do you seeing as having the highest ceilings or best chance of being called up to the majors?

These guys are probably all just organizational fodder and I hope that the team does better but...

I think Pettyjohn has a shot at being a long reliever/swingman for the Reds. He can go starters innings and is a lefty who can turn line-ups around. He would keep the team from stunting the growth of the prospects in that role. In AAA in 2007, his K/9 was over 7 and his BB/9 was under 2 but he gives up a lot of HR which doesn't bode well.

Phillips could be the RH half of a 1B Platoon with Votto or Hatte. If the Reds move Encarnacion and put Keppinger at 3B they will need a RH 1B. He's probably the most likely to be useful of this group.

The 2 Italian LH are kids who will probably play in te GCL. Barker and Cabrera are career AAAA types who could get a shot with lots of injuries but should be behind other guys. Denham is a failed prospect that the team picked up from the A's last year in the Kirk Saarloos trade. They acquired him and brought him back so maybe they see something but I have doubts he'll even see AA. Don't know much about Green.

princeton
01-05-2008, 06:18 AM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=699

Cincinnati Reds
Signed: RHP Dan Denham, LHP Chris Michalak, LHP Luca Panerati, LHP Adam Pettyjohn, LHP Matteo Pizziconi, 1B Kevin Barker, 1B Andy Phillips, 2B Andrew Green, 3B Jolbert Cabrera
Released: RHP Thomas Pauly, 2B Billy Rojo.

I see the real motivation here. The Italians are center Defenders. Petr Cech is already around to play goalie. I'm waiting for the announced signing of Brazilian outfielders wink wink (midfielders)

lollipopcurve
01-05-2008, 12:01 PM
The Reds may well be the most active team in signing Europeans these days. Lutz, from Germany, the Italians, a Czech, Smit from the Netherlands, and they had that Ruzic guy (who I think has signed elsewhere), from Eastern Europe somewhere. Pretty funky.

dougdirt
01-05-2008, 12:13 PM
The Reds may well be the most active team in signing Europeans these days. Lutz, from Germany, the Italians, a Czech, Smit from the Netherlands, and they had that Ruzic guy (who I think has signed elsewhere), from Eastern Europe somewhere. Pretty funky.

Pretty sure Ruzic is from Australia.

lollipopcurve
01-05-2008, 02:01 PM
Pretty sure Ruzic is from Australia.

Oh yeah. Maybe his lineage qualifies as European.

gedred69
01-05-2008, 02:26 PM
I see the real motivation here. The Italians are center Defenders. Petr Cech is already around to play goalie. I'm waiting for the announced signing of Brazilian outfielders wink wink (midfielders)

Ha! Ha! Ha! Man you are brutal!:D

JaxRed
01-05-2008, 02:47 PM
And they signed Mariekson Gregorius from Netherlands Antilles that played for Netherlands in some Eurpoean tourney

Heath
01-05-2008, 02:51 PM
Ok, since I saw his name as a potential AAA starter, is Sam LeCure ready for prime time?

JaxRed
01-05-2008, 03:00 PM
No, in fact I think the chances of him starting at AAA are almost nil. He'll almost certainly start in AA.

dougdirt
01-05-2008, 04:00 PM
No, in fact I think the chances of him starting at AAA are almost nil. He'll almost certainly start in AA.

I agree. He battled some injuries last year and will likely return to AA, but keep an eye on him, he has talent.

Javy Pornstache
01-06-2008, 12:12 AM
Oh yeah. Maybe his lineage qualifies as European.

No, you're right. He's Croatian. Signed out of Australia though, which has a heavy percentage of Croatians.

redsmetz
01-06-2008, 10:05 PM
The Reds may well be the most active team in signing Europeans these days. Lutz, from Germany, the Italians, a Czech, Smit from the Netherlands, and they had that Ruzic guy (who I think has signed elsewhere), from Eastern Europe somewhere. Pretty funky.

It seems to me that we're signing them fairly young (equivalent to our high school grads) which should, if I'm thinking correctly, that we can train them in our ways and help them develop further.

Doc. Scott
01-07-2008, 10:37 AM
I don't really understand why we need *two* replacement-level 1Bs for AAA. Anyone figure that out?

camisadelgolf
01-07-2008, 01:01 PM
I don't really understand why we need *two* replacement-level 1Bs for AAA. Anyone figure that out?

Maybe it's because the Reds had zero to begin with, and the only internal option who could play AAA is Tonys Gutierrez.

In other news, I prefer Chris Michalak to Tom Shearn.

dougdirt
01-07-2008, 01:07 PM
Maybe it's because the Reds had zero to begin with, and the only internal option who could play AAA is Tonys Gutierrez.

In other news, I prefer Chris Michalak to Tom Shearn.

Adam Rosales could handle first base in AAA just fine I would imagine. Maybe they have other plans for him though.

camisadelgolf
01-07-2008, 01:23 PM
Maybe it's because the Reds had zero to begin with, and the only internal option who could play AAA is Tonys Gutierrez.

I just realized that my tone in this post could be misinterpreted--I'm not trying to demean Doc. Scott or anything like that.

RedsManRick
01-07-2008, 01:56 PM
Adam Rosales could handle first base in AAA just fine I would imagine. Maybe they have other plans for him though.

Where does Andy Phillips fit in? Surely not in the majors...

camisadelgolf
01-07-2008, 04:20 PM
Andy Phillips will probably be a starter in Louisville. Whether he ends up at first base or second base depends on whether the Reds put Drew Anderson in AA or AAA, in my opinion.

TRF
01-10-2008, 05:56 PM
I found this at redlegnation from Thomas Pauly...
Tell everyone thanks for all the support. ihad a lot of fun with this adventure and it was nice to know people were behind me regardless of whether i was healthy or hurt. i also wish i could have made the reds investment in me worth it and i feel like i let them down, but i did everything i possibly could and my arm just couldnít come around. the reds have been great to me the whole time though. as for my future, iím really excited about the next phase of my life. i applied to harvard business school and am pursuing a chemical engineering job with a start up tattoo ink company called freedom 2 ink. they created the product that iíve had the idea for since college but hadnít been able to act on because of baseball, so now i at least can possibly join in their entrepreneurial adventure. could be fun, but i know for a fact it wonít be as fun as playing ball. i might even keep throwing too. who knows. thanks again.

TOBTTReds
01-10-2008, 10:50 PM
I found this at redlegnation from Thomas Pauly...

He will do very well with whatever he does. He is VERY smart. Princeton grad in chem engineering I believe.

redsmetz
03-13-2012, 08:02 AM
He will do very well with whatever he does. He is VERY smart. Princeton grad in chem engineering I believe.

I'm generally not a fan of pulling up old random threads, but I couldn't figure out a better place to put this little tidbit.

I noticed Detroit cutting David Pauley and it made me wonder about what Thomas Pauly is doing. I saw this thread and another about him in 2007 after he was coming back from various surgeries.

I found him on LinkedIn where he's working at a capital management company in Jacksonville, but besides listing his current title was this under former employment: Pitcher / Rehab Specialist at Cincinnati Reds. :laugh:

cinreds21
03-25-2012, 04:02 PM
Left-handed pitcher Matt Fairel was released last week.

mth123
03-25-2012, 05:14 PM
Left-handed pitcher Matt Fairel was released last week.

Wow. I thought he and Sulbaran were the sleepers from that draft. Didn't see them releasing him so soon.


Its crowded with journeyman in the high minors, so there will probably be more.

cinreds21
03-25-2012, 05:19 PM
He's coming back from injury and must have just not had it still. That's just my guess.

redsmetz
03-25-2012, 07:25 PM
FYI, you posted these latest updates in an old thread I pulled forward about Thomas Pauly. You may want to move the notes over to this year's update thread. Sorry, didn't mean to cause any confusion.

cinreds21
03-25-2012, 09:27 PM
I don't see it?

muddie
03-26-2012, 09:31 AM
Matt Klinker, one of the good guys, retired from baseball.

JaxRed
03-26-2012, 09:37 AM
I talked to him a few times. He was a good guy. I wonder if Reds had told him they were cutting him loose.

JaxRed
03-26-2012, 09:39 AM
Left-handed pitcher Matt Fairel was released last week.

I saw him pre-injury and was not impressed. After that point I was never high on him.

muddie
03-26-2012, 09:50 AM
I talked to him a few times. He was a good guy. I wonder if Reds had told him they were cutting him loose.

The Westchester Buzz did a piece on his retirement. Good article.

http://westchesterbuzz.com/2012/03/15/lakota-west-grad-matt-klinker-retires-from-pro-baseball/

cinreds21
03-26-2012, 01:46 PM
Wooooooo. I am shocked.