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gobucks106
01-18-2008, 11:38 AM
I know it's not a good idea to trade within your division let alone with the team favored to win it however with the Cubs signing Leiber that could make Marquis, Gallagher, and Marshall available! Any of the guys intrigue anyone?

*BaseClogger*
01-18-2008, 12:26 PM
I know it's not a good idea to trade within your division let alone with the team favored to win it however with the Cubs signing Leiber that could make Marquis, Gallagher, and Marshall available! Any of the guys intrigue anyone?

I'm certainly intrigued by Marshall, and Marquis if the price of the trade is low...

Bip Roberts
01-18-2008, 12:31 PM
Why do so many people like Marshall? Hes a lefty but just doesnt do anything for me after that.

*BaseClogger*
01-18-2008, 02:13 PM
Why do so many people like Marshall? Hes a lefty but just doesnt do anything for me after that.

In 229 career MLB inings, Marshall has a 4.83 ERA with 9.39 H/9, 1.13 HR/9, 3.69 BB/9, and 5.66 K/9. This with a 50% GB rate, which is very good.

In 304 minor league innings, he has a 2.63 ERA with 7.57 H/9, .47 HR/9, 2.75 BB/9, and 8.82 K/9.

Since he is 25 and still improving, I think a 4.50 ERA with 9 H/9, 1 HR/9, 3.3 BB/9, and 6.25 K/9 is reasonable...

That is why I like Marshall

Bip Roberts
01-18-2008, 02:18 PM
havent a lot of his innings came as relief?

JinAZ
01-18-2008, 02:52 PM
Here's my take on Marshall from my Cubs postseason profile (http://jinaz-reds.blogspot.com/2007/10/postseason-profile-chicago-cubs.html) last fall:


Marshall, 25 seems like one of those protypical soft-tossing lefties with some history of control problems. He has five distinct pitches (http://baseball.bornbybits.com/plots/Sean_Marshall.html), and induces almost 50% of balls in play to be hit on the ground, but he doesn't strike many guys out and, while his walk rate was roughly average this season, he has a history of control issues in the minor leagues. I don't see him as much of a prospect, but he's probably an acceptable #5. He might show up as a situational lefty or long man in the postseason, but he won't be a common fixture on the mound.

I wouldn't mind acquiring him as an option, but I certainly wouldn't give up any of our Big 4 prospects for him.
-j

*BaseClogger*
01-18-2008, 03:30 PM
Here's my take on Marshall from my Cubs postseason profile (http://jinaz-reds.blogspot.com/2007/10/postseason-profile-chicago-cubs.html) last fall:



I wouldn't mind acquiring him as an option, but I certainly wouldn't give up any of our Big 4 prospects for him.
-j

I certainly was not endorsing a trade of one of our top 4 prospects. Howeverm he has had some success striking out hitters in the minors, and I certainly think he can improve in that area. Also, those groundball tendencies are very enticing...

As for Marshall pitching out of the bullpen, he has two career appearances as a reliever. He has been used almost exclusively as a starter...

BEETTLEBUG
01-18-2008, 03:37 PM
I would take Marquis cause he has contract and shouldn't have to give up as much to get him.

Bip Roberts
01-18-2008, 03:40 PM
I dont know how a guy so big as him can be so weak when it comes to speed of a pitch.

*BaseClogger*
01-18-2008, 04:12 PM
I dont know how a guy so big as him can be so weak when it comes to speed of a pitch.

well Aaron Harang is HUGE and throws like a girl :D

Bip Roberts
01-18-2008, 04:14 PM
well Aaron Harang is HUGE and throws like a girl :D

He at least can top 90

Newman4
01-18-2008, 08:15 PM
I mentioned Alex Gonzalez for Marquis and Marshall on another thread. Of course, the Kepp to SS debate could hold that one up. :D

crazybob60
01-18-2008, 09:19 PM
In my opinion, for the same reason that Boston and New York Yankees will not be getting in on the Erik Bedard talks, we will not be mentioned in talks for trade of these players if the trade talks begin for them. This would be, of course, though, on a lesser level of the Bedard talks. Did that make sense?

Also, if you are just talking about trying to acquire one of them, I wouldn't mind having Marshall at all!!!!

BEETTLEBUG
01-20-2008, 08:19 PM
Well another thrower is gone - TOMKO to Royals.

Bip Roberts
01-20-2008, 08:24 PM
Well another thrower is gone - TOMKO to Royals.

Royals will regret that

Vada Pinson Fan
01-21-2008, 01:03 AM
Tomko and Royals. A good fit. A bad pitcher and a bad team. Good match! ;)

*BaseClogger*
01-22-2008, 02:09 PM
From MLBTR:


Rosenthal agrees with the recent rumor that the Orioles will decide whether to trade Erik Bedard and Brian Roberts by month's end. He notes that Cubs starter Jason Marquis actually does have trade value, and could be part of a package for Roberts. Other teams are interested in him too - go figure. Innings are innings I guess. Marquis, 29, is owed $16.25MM over the 2008-09 seasons.


I wouldn't mind if one of those teams is the Reds as long as we don't have to give up too much...

Bip Roberts
01-22-2008, 02:11 PM
I really doubt Marquis has any trade value above like give us some junk and we will pay half the contract.