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Spike
02-09-2008, 09:59 PM
I know we are rumored to be actively pursuing Joe Blanton, and there is talk of Votto or one of Bailey/Cueto, but I would rather look accross the Bay towards the Giants.

Noah Lowry is coming off a good year, but has some injury concerns. At one time, he was looked at only being slightly behind Dan Haren (his college teamate) in potential. What would it take to get this southpaw? I am not sure. If we could, netting Lowry for Freel, Hatteberg and Maloney would be great for us. They are short at first and third and there has been some talk of a Lowry for Crede deal with Chicago. My guess, we would have to substitute Encarnacion for Freel, or Votto for Hatteberg, or Cueto/Bailey for Maloney to get the deal done. But I like Lowry over Blanton, so I might just pony up. Lowry would make a nice #3 starter for us.

AmarilloRed
02-10-2008, 12:17 AM
Giants officials have stated that #4478 Noah Lowry# is expected to arrive this spring without any limitations, according to the San Jose Mercury News. Several teams are expected to keep an eye on Lowry this spring to see if he's over last year's elbow strain. If he is, he could well be dealt for a position player. In particular, the Giants are interested in Joe Crede.

http://www.rototimes.com/mlb/player/4478

The Giants seem to believe they have enough pitching, and are looking for a position player in exchange for Lowry.

mlbfan30
02-10-2008, 12:30 AM
We've been through this. Lowry would be a disaster and his ERA is a pure gimmick. Just look at K/BB splits and that's all you need to know. Blanton has much better control and is much more durable. It's interesting to compare there stats, and they are very very similar in age, playing time, and stats. But looking at the career stats doesn't prove everything. Lowry has been on the decline, while Blanton on the incline. Blanton will pitched 7+ innings many times (18x in 2007), while Lowry will rarely pitch 7+ (8x in 2007). Blanton only had 7 starts less than 6IP, while Lowry 11. This is a trend throughout their careers, and is one of the biggest reasons why Blanton is a much better choice.

Bip Roberts
02-10-2008, 02:08 AM
Please god no

HokieRed
02-10-2008, 10:07 AM
Lowry's horrible. I wouldn't trade Maloney straight up for him.

Spike
02-10-2008, 10:44 AM
Lowry is fragile, not horrible. He is 27 and left-handed. I don't think he would cost as much as Blanton. My original offer would be our spare parts. The guy has a career ERA of 4.00.

Again, a decent #3

BigRedMachine2
02-10-2008, 12:09 PM
No Thanks !!!!

TC81190
02-10-2008, 01:09 PM
Huh? Nobody here wants Noah Lowry? He's been an above average pitcher every year since he's come up with the exception of '06. He's always shown, at the very least, a decent hit rate and seems to be able strikeout some batters.

AmarilloRed
02-10-2008, 06:01 PM
If he is healthy, it would be worth looking into. He is the definition of a #3, and can be expected to give you 6 good innings. I would talk to the Giants if he is healthy, and see what it would take to get him.

Bip Roberts
02-10-2008, 06:12 PM
I see zero reasons why people would want Lowry over Belisle

BEETTLEBUG
02-10-2008, 07:14 PM
I am game how much and how was he with Baker?

ChatterRed
02-10-2008, 07:43 PM
Lowry's career stats:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7226/career;_ylt=AvEWtyiA5.Eu7foKc.N5M.mFCLcF

I don't get what all the negativity is about. The person who started this thread wasn't offering our best prospects for him.

If we could get Lowry for spare parts, I'd welcome more competition. Of course, it all depends on him being healthy.

We definitely need a lefty in the rotation. That is why we were pursuing Bedard so hard.

SMcGavin
02-10-2008, 07:54 PM
Lowry circa 2005 would be a respectable #3, Lowry the past two seasons is very bad. Pure smoke and mirrors. As others have said, Belisle is a much better option.

kentjett
02-10-2008, 08:32 PM
I think we are going to trade for a halfway proven pitcher instead of a high risk high reward type of guy, we have plenty of them type of players.

Bip Roberts
02-10-2008, 08:34 PM
Im pretty sure Lowry fits in the high risk low reward category

Spike
02-10-2008, 09:14 PM
I see zero reasons why people would want Lowry over Belisle

CBS Sportsline projected 2008 season.
Team INN GS W L S K BBI HA ERA WHIP
SF 199.0 33 13 12 0 125 85 190 4.025 1.382

It ain't about Lowry over Belisle. It is about starting the best 5 starters we can for 2008. If Bailey and Cueto fire it up, all the better. Wouldn't you like to have the problem of 6 or 7 starting pitchers?


I think we are going to trade for a halfway proven pitcher instead of a high risk high reward type of guy, we have plenty of them type of players.

Lowry's Stats:

Team INN GS W L S K BBI HA ERA WHIP
2007 SF 156.0 26 14 8 0 87 87 155 3.923 1.551
2006 SF 159.1 27 7 10 0 84 56 166 4.752 1.395
2005 SF 204.2 33 13 13 0 172 76 193 3.790 1.317

Blanton's Stats:

2007 OAK 230.0 34 14 10 0 140 40 240 3.952 1.217
2006 OAK 194.1 31 16 12 0 107 58 241 4.822 1.540
2005 OAK 201.1 33 12 12 0 116 67 178 3.536 1.218

Durability and innings pitched go to Blanton

Both are 27 years old

Lowry is left handed; Blanton is Right

What it would take to get Lowry over Blanton: Priceless! (Okay, got carried away, but it would take a lot less!)

Bip Roberts
02-10-2008, 09:26 PM
Yea im not very interested in knocking out of Bailey or Volquez for Noah Lowry and his injured arm and declining numbers.

SMcGavin
02-11-2008, 12:41 PM
Yea im not very interested in knocking out of Bailey or Volquez for Noah Lowry and his injured arm and declining numbers.

Bip you have found a topic on which we're in complete agreement. The problem with trading for someone like Lowry is that if you trade for him, you have to put him in the rotation. If we already had him he'd be fine as a #6/7 guy in case of injuries or whatever. But you don't actively go get a guy like that to block your youngsters. For example the Affeldt signing makes sense because we can just shift him back to the bullpen when/if Cueto and Bailey show they are ready to come up and join the rotation. That wouldn't happen with Lowry.

And the reason it costs a lot more to get Blanton than Lowry because Blanton is actually pretty good, and Lowry is not.