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WMR
02-17-2008, 02:48 AM
I would love to see the SEC add Memphis, but not lose anyone so the SEC would need to add a few/couple more teams.

Memphis joining the SEC would catapult their sports programs into the next stratosphere.

Gainesville Red
02-17-2008, 02:55 AM
Memphis to the West.

Louisville to the East.

WMR
02-17-2008, 02:56 AM
GA, another interesting team to consider... one that would significantly expand the TV audience: Houston.

WMR
02-17-2008, 02:57 AM
Another interesting team to consider: FSU.

Another: South Florida?

Another: The U?

WMR
02-17-2008, 02:57 AM
I would love--LOVE--to get DaVille in the SEC.

Bip Roberts
02-17-2008, 03:56 AM
Memphis will never leave CUSA they will be a top 10 for years as long as they are in that conf

MaineRed
02-17-2008, 08:18 AM
What makes the argument interesting? The SEC already has 12 teams. Adding 2 more would just make the football schedules even more unbalanced. Instead of not playing 3 teams from the other side now it would be 4. And other than every blue moon, Memphis is going to be a Vanderbilt-esque doormat in football. Same with just about anyone you bring in because it is unlikely a Miami or FSU is going to jump ship when they are more than fine where they are.

For basketball, Memphis would make the SEC better. For football it would just give the haters some more ammo as it would pull the number of crappy teams in the SEC closer to the number of crappy teams in the Big Ten.

WVRed
02-17-2008, 08:35 AM
Memphis will never leave CUSA they will be a top 10 for years as long as they are in that conf

The only thing saving Memphis is playing Tennessee and Gonzaga midway through the season. They play such a weak conference schedule that it will show up in the NCAA tournament, regardless of who they have playing.

I am all for Memphis in the SEC, but I don't see it happening.

Highlifeman21
02-17-2008, 08:42 AM
Memphis should have followed UC to the Big East.

BoxingRed
02-17-2008, 09:59 AM
My Dad is a college administrator and was involved in picking teams to be added to a conference at one time. I started rattling off names of teams that had performed well recently in sports as good programs to consider.
After a couple minutes he said, "Son, you have to realize that athletics plays a small role in this decision. Conferences are looking for schools that fit well with their culture, academics and revenue. Being good at a particular sport really doesn't carry as much water as you might think."
Memphis is a commuter school with very little tradition and a fair weather fan base. IMO they are a bad fit.

KronoRed
02-17-2008, 12:02 PM
Another interesting team to consider: FSU.

Another: South Florida?

Another: The U?

FSU and the u both rejected SEC membership back in the early 90's, they both felt it would be too hard to win national titles in the conference.

Ha.

Anyway conferences shouldn't get bigger then 12 teams, just makes scheduling too hard beyond that, and nobody in the SEC really deserves to be kicked out.

Reds4Life
02-17-2008, 12:47 PM
Memphis should have followed UC to the Big East.

I think they will in time. If Memphis leaves CUSA, it will be for the Big East.

Falls City Beer
02-17-2008, 01:00 PM
The Big East teams are largely urban teams, universities with heavy black populations, and Catholic schools.

SEC teams are largely white public schools that bring in black folk from the city to their pastoral campuses.

Memphis would be a much better fit in the Big East.

But make no mistake: the SEC would be much more competitive by adding Memphis. The Tigers'd go immediately to the head of the class in that now-weak conference.

Outside of Florida, the SEC has been an absolute dog for about 5 years.

Sea Ray
02-17-2008, 01:07 PM
I like the SEC at 12 teams. They don't need to expand

Highlifeman21
02-17-2008, 04:04 PM
Current CUSA teams
East Carolina
Houston
Marshall
Memphis
Rice
Southern Methodist
Southern Miss
Tulane
Tulsa
UAB
UCF
UTEP

Current SEC Teams
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi State
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

Swap Memphis with Mississippi and UCF with Mississippi State and you have a better SEC, and more balanced (chock full o' suck) CUSA. If you're only going to swap 2 teams, Memphis and Mississippi make the most sense.

guttle11
02-17-2008, 05:20 PM
Memphis would drag the SEC down in every sport but basketball. They would never have a competitive football team on a yearly basis in the SEC. They're right where they belong in C-USA, even if their basketball team is so dominant.

The only program that would make sense in the SEC is Clemson.

Falls City Beer
02-17-2008, 05:54 PM
Memphis would drag the SEC down in every sport but basketball. They would never have a competitive football team on a yearly basis in the SEC. They're right where they belong in C-USA, even if their basketball team is so dominant.

The only program that would make sense in the SEC is Clemson.

And what exactly does a team like South Carolina contribute to the SEC from the basketball end of things (or the football for that matter)? Talk about a crap sports institution.

dabvu2498
02-18-2008, 08:20 AM
And what exactly does a team like South Carolina contribute to the SEC from the basketball end of things (or the football for that matter)? Talk about a crap sports institution.

Carolina had nine sports programs make NCAA tournament appearances in 2007.

Falls City Beer
02-18-2008, 08:30 AM
Carolina had nine sports programs make NCAA tournament appearances in 2007.

I was picking on Carolina in the same way guttle was picking on Memphis. Just as Carolina doesn't, Memphis wouldn't "drag down" the SEC. Memphis *would* be a great competitive addition to the SEC, but there are a number of other factors that would likely prevent Memphis from joining the SEC.

Sea Ray
02-18-2008, 05:02 PM
And what exactly does a team like South Carolina contribute to the SEC from the basketball end of things (or the football for that matter)? Talk about a crap sports institution.


Didn't they win back to back NIT titles? Impressive, huh?

guttle11
02-18-2008, 05:05 PM
I was picking on Carolina in the same way guttle was picking on Memphis. Just as Carolina doesn't, Memphis wouldn't "drag down" the SEC. Memphis *would* be a great competitive addition to the SEC, but there are a number of other factors that would likely prevent Memphis from joining the SEC.

In what sport would Memphis compete besides basketball?