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HalMorrisRules
02-19-2008, 09:04 PM
ESPN's Page 2 has issued their preseason "Power Rankings" and are, of course, based upon total nonsense. They have the Reds at #10 and they wax poetic about one Ryan Freel:

10. Cincinnati Reds
Ryan Freel is healthy. For the moment. Ryan Freel is to the Reds as John Belushi was to the world of '70s American comedy: all-out, reckless, entertaining as hell, and sadly, poetically, undeniably doomed. He will get hurt. He will go down. He will go Rodney McCray on some outfield wall, or Derek Jeter on some unsuspecting bystander, and he will end up wounded. It will be sad when it happens, as it is every year, but it will be noble and inspiring too. And we will comfort ourselves, as we do every year, with the memory of his style and spirit. (There are rumors, by the way, that Dusty Baker is contemplating someone other than Freel in his everyday lineup, and is still trolling for some rickety replacement like Kenny Lofton. Mark our words: If Baker goes this route, the baseball gods, who admire the Icarusian gusto with which young Freel so much as ties his shoes and administers his eye black, will make him pay dearly for his own temerity.)

I love the Derek Jeter line. ;)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=neel/080219

Bip Roberts
02-19-2008, 09:10 PM
More like Derek Jeter will go ryan freel on people :o

gedred69
02-19-2008, 09:17 PM
If Freel proves to be "back" from his knee woes in ST, I expect him to be traded before OD. There are a lot of teams that could use a healthy Ryan Freel. That opens up CF for the best lead-off option the Reds currently have, Hopper. Because of the lack of anybody else to hit lead-off, Bruce starts the season at Louisville regardless of a decent ST, unless he is so spectacular that the Reds can't omit him from the OD roster. Bummer.....

Degenerate39
02-19-2008, 09:22 PM
Jay Bruce > Ryan Freel simple as that. Bruce should be the starting Centerfielder unless he completely bombs in Spring Training. I really don't see that happening though.

GoReds33
02-19-2008, 09:25 PM
If Freel proves to be "back" from his knee woes in ST, I expect him to be traded before OD. There are a lot of teams that could use a healthy Ryan Freel. That opens up CF for the best lead-off option the Reds currently have, Hopper. Because of the lack of anybody else to hit lead-off, Bruce starts the season at Louisville regardless of a decent ST, unless he is so spectacular that the Reds can't omit him from the OD roster. Bummer.....Let's not forget that Freel was the leadoff man for us for quite a while. I think there should be an open competition in Spring training for the leadoff position, and if Freel doesn't make it they should explore trading him.

Though I love Jay Bruce, he'd have to be a monster to make the big club out of Spring training. There's no doubt he has the talent, but if he's not 100% ready he shouldn't be here on Opening Day.

Bip Roberts
02-19-2008, 09:32 PM
I really never had a problem with Freels .360 obp while leading off :dunno:

Blue
02-20-2008, 01:45 PM
Ryan Freel doesn't go Derek Jeter on bystanders. Ryan Freel goes Ryan Freel on bystanders. My favorite Freel moment was when he made a catch while diving into the stands, and moments later made a catch in the same place leaning into the stands, prompting a terrified little kid to cry, having twice been threatened by the spectre of Farney.

SMcGavin
02-20-2008, 07:12 PM
I really never had a problem with Freels .360 obp while leading off :dunno:

Yeah if 2004-06 Freel is back he's not a bad option in CF, but I still don't think you can hold back a talent like Jay Bruce to play Freel. Keep in mind Freel will be 32 on Opening Day, not exactly a spring chicken out there anymore.

Bip Roberts
02-20-2008, 07:16 PM
Yeah if 2004-06 Freel is back he's not a bad option in CF, but I still don't think you can hold back a talent like Jay Bruce to play Freel. Keep in mind Freel will be 32 on Opening Day, not exactly a spring chicken out there anymore.

No doubt about it if Bruce is ready you have to play him. I also dont think its a problem if hes showing any sign of struggling that we hold him back for the start of the season and let him go through some more in AAA. Its not like we are looking Bruce being 25 and being blocked by someone ala Ryan Howard

SMcGavin
02-20-2008, 07:24 PM
No doubt about it if Bruce is ready you have to play him. I also dont think its a problem if hes showing any sign of struggling that we hold him back for the start of the season and let him go through some more in AAA. Its not like we are looking Bruce being 25 and being blocked by someone ala Ryan Howard

Yeah I agree, if he looks bad in the spring starting him in AAA is no big deal. I think he will be just fine in the spring though, and if that's the case I'd like to see him in CF on Opening Day.

gedred69
02-20-2008, 10:21 PM
A lot of good points. Bruce spectacular in ST= bring him on. Otherwise its Freel or Hopper. Freel healthy I think makes for a trade because of all the positions he plays adequately. There are teams that could use that and offer at the least some quality prospect in return.

Hey Meat
02-21-2008, 11:54 AM
ESPN's Page 2 has issued their preseason "Power Rankings" and are, of course, based upon total nonsense. They have the Reds at #10 and they wax poetic about one Ryan Freel:

10. Cincinnati Reds
Ryan Freel is healthy. For the moment. Ryan Freel is to the Reds as John Belushi was to the world of '70s American comedy: all-out, reckless, entertaining as hell, and sadly, poetically, undeniably doomed. He will get hurt. He will go down. He will go Rodney McCray on some outfield wall, or Derek Jeter on some unsuspecting bystander, and he will end up wounded. It will be sad when it happens, as it is every year, but it will be noble and inspiring too. And we will comfort ourselves, as we do every year, with the memory of his style and spirit. (There are rumors, by the way, that Dusty Baker is contemplating someone other than Freel in his everyday lineup, and is still trolling for some rickety replacement like Kenny Lofton. Mark our words: If Baker goes this route, the baseball gods, who admire the Icarusian gusto with which young Freel so much as ties his shoes and administers his eye black, will make him pay dearly for his own temerity.)

I love the Derek Jeter line. ;)

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=neel/080219


Oh my, Make it stop, that was some of the funniest stuff that I have read in a while. I still love Freel and have to disagree with some of the nay sayers who scough at his hustle. You have to love a guy like that. I know that doesn't help us get to October with him getting hurt, but I still think he would help more than some of the aforementioned washed up players.