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SidneySlicker
02-25-2008, 10:38 AM
I haven't been able to check in much. Has anything been written or said about Homer Bailey's velocity at training camp thus far? I would be concerned if his fast ball isn't more than the 90-92mph that it was towards the end of the year last year. It's pretty obvious that his offspeed is not good enough to support that kind of fastball. Hopefully he was just going through a dead arm period.

redhawk61
02-25-2008, 11:48 AM
acctually his fb was running 93-97 towards the end of last year....

Blue
02-25-2008, 12:22 PM
He had excellent velocity his last 3 starts after coming back from the groin injury.

RSNtransplant
02-25-2008, 12:39 PM
Forget velocity, does he have a third pitch?

Bip Roberts
02-25-2008, 01:02 PM
I haven't been able to check in much. Has anything been written or said about Homer Bailey's velocity at training camp thus far? I would be concerned if his fast ball isn't more than the 90-92mph that it was towards the end of the year last year. It's pretty obvious that his offspeed is not good enough to support that kind of fastball. Hopefully he was just going through a dead arm period.

I never understood how people say his FB was only 90-92. Did you just not watch the games or something?

AmarilloRed
02-25-2008, 02:17 PM
Forget velocity, does he have a third pitch?

He has always had 3 pitches. 2 plus pitches in his fastball and curve, and an average change-up. It is true he needs to continue refining his change-up in the future.

RSNtransplant
02-25-2008, 02:23 PM
He has always had 3 pitches. 2 plus pitches in his fastball and curve, and an average change-up. It is true he needs to continue refining his change-up in the future.

So he has two mlb caliber pitches, developing that 3rd mlb pitch is what needs to happen if he is going to produce consistently at the major league level. I cannot think of (m)any aces that feature a curve and have no 3rd mlb caliber pitch.

REDblooded
02-25-2008, 02:27 PM
doesn't he have two fastballs?

Bip Roberts
02-25-2008, 02:32 PM
doesn't he have two fastballs?

Hes got a cutter that is 92-94 and i think a 4 seamer or maybe its a 2 seamer is 95-97

SidneySlicker
02-25-2008, 03:31 PM
The games that I watched on FSN I rarely if, ever saw him throw harder than say 94 and that was by far more rare than it was common. My memory could very well be mistaken, I just had the impression that his fastball normally ended up in the 94-97 range from what I was hearing and that didn't seem to be the case in his starts I watched. Again this is just from memory.

redhawk61
02-25-2008, 03:56 PM
nope he def. was hitting 94-97

Bip Roberts
02-25-2008, 03:56 PM
even when he was injured he was still throwing harder than 92

elfmanvt07
02-25-2008, 03:57 PM
Hes got a cutter that is 92-94 and i think a 4 seamer or maybe its a 2 seamer is 95-97

I'm almost positive it's a 4 seamer.

Bip Roberts
02-25-2008, 03:58 PM
I'm almost positive it's a 4 seamer.

There really isnt much of a difference anyways but Im pretty sure its a 4 seamer too

HBP
02-25-2008, 04:24 PM
There really isnt much of a difference anyways but Im pretty sure its a 4 seamer too

IMO there is. If the 4 seam is as straight as an arrow, most MLB hitters can hit it even if it is 97 mph.

ChatterRed
02-25-2008, 06:54 PM
Who cares about Bailey when we have Cueto.

tbball10
02-25-2008, 06:59 PM
The games that I watched on FSN I rarely if, ever saw him throw harder than say 94 and that was by far more rare than it was common. My memory could very well be mistaken, I just had the impression that his fastball normally ended up in the 94-97 range from what I was hearing and that didn't seem to be the case in his starts I watched. Again this is just from memory.

i remember those starts as well and he was in the low 90's sometimes even high 80's (which may have been his cutter).

however, im not worried. i think he is completely healthy this year and he should be much improved!