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Grounds_Crew
03-13-2008, 02:01 PM
....traded Dunn for Volquez instead of Hamilton?

I certainly would have. I have really high hopes and expectations for Josh Hamilton. In fact, I fully expect him to live up to the hype.

Consider this: ( A bit of a stretch of the imagination...but this sums up what people think of this guy)


Scott Miller, CBS Sports
"I think Hamilton's got a chance to be maybe the best player in baseball," says a scout who has been tracking the Rangers through the Cactus League this spring. "I mean, this guy is Mickey Mantle or something."

CySeymour
03-13-2008, 02:04 PM
Well, but there was that tiny little problem of once the Reds picked up his option, they aren't able to trade him until June.

Grounds_Crew
03-13-2008, 02:05 PM
I'm just speaking theoretically here. So...would ya?

CySeymour
03-13-2008, 02:07 PM
I'm just speaking theoretically here. So...would ya?

Probably not, and to be honest, I don't think Texas makes that trade.

captainmorgan07
03-13-2008, 02:49 PM
Nope not a chance. I loved Josh but he was injured to much for my tastes. Atleast with Dunn you kno what your going to get. He's been improving more lately on his contact and going the other way with the ball. Give me Adam Dunn over Josh Hamilton everyday.

chettt
03-13-2008, 02:55 PM
Comparing Dunn & Hamilton: Power is more or less the same. On Base is in favor of Dunn, Strike Outs slight in favor of Hamilton, Batting Average is about the same. Health is in favor of Dunn, Fan Appeal is about the same. Defense is a land-slide in favor of Hamilton and so is SALARY. So I was surprise when the Reds did trade Hamilton & I have no complaints about Edison Volquez. I hope Hamilton has a great career in Texas. I, also, hope that Dunn & Volquez have long winning careers in Cincinnati.

laxtonto
03-13-2008, 03:04 PM
I have a hard time believing that texas would have taken Dunn considering 1 of the main selling points on Hamilton for Texas is the fact that they believe he can play CF for the next year or 2 while Borbon developes then move over to RF or LF. Add that to the salary constraints, and most unlikely. Unless Dunn became a decent 1B defender then that would be a whole different story.

BLEEDS
03-13-2008, 03:18 PM
I'm just speaking theoretically here. So...would ya?

Theoretically, I would rather have traded Ken Griffey Junior for Johan Santana.

In theory.

PEACE

-BLEEDS

TC81190
03-13-2008, 03:20 PM
Yes. It's no knock on Adam, but Hamilton is cheaper, lightyears ahead of him as a fielder, would've been under our control for longer, and could arguably out-produce him down the line.

dunner13
03-13-2008, 03:20 PM
josh hamilton might become a player as good as mickey mantle. Adam Dunn already is a top offensive player who will end up being a hall of famer if he continues to do what he has done. hamilton hasnt done it yet, maybe he will, maybe hes always getting hurt and finishes his career with less homeruns then dunn has right now. No one likes dunn but there are very few players who have put up the kind of numbers dunn has. He may not be the best player ever but hes a pretty good one.

AdamDunn
03-13-2008, 03:30 PM
I voted no. But I've changed my mind. The difference between the two is Hamilton is cheap, good defensively, and a little less dependable. I'd have kept Hamilton because the Reds could use that money on someone else.

durl
03-13-2008, 03:34 PM
Trade Dunn for Volquez? No.

If I were the GM, I wouldn't trade Dunn unless I were going to get a #2 or #3 starter. Dunn's offensive output (many remember his Ks but forget his great HR/RBI numbers) should get you more than a potential starter. Hamilton is still an unknown but he has incredibly high potential. I would have loved to see him remain a Red but I can see why they traded him.

Now if the Reds could have gotten a very good starter for Dunn and kept Hamilton, I'd be perfectly happy with that.

Degenerate39
03-13-2008, 03:36 PM
Personnally no because if I were to trade Dunn it would cost alot more to give him up than Volquez. Not to mention with Dunn you know you're going to get 40 homers, 100 RBIs, etc but with Hamilton he cant go on the DL at any minute. Hamilton really is a wild card.

GoReds33
03-13-2008, 04:18 PM
I would, because Hamilton was in my eyes atleast as valuable to the Reds as Dunn was. Hamilton also was cheaper. That's why I would rather have traded Dunn.

jmac
03-13-2008, 09:22 PM
Personnally no because if I were to trade Dunn it would cost alot more to give him up than Volquez. Not to mention with Dunn you know you're going to get 40 homers, 100 RBIs, etc but with Hamilton he can go on the DL at any minute. Hamilton really is a wild card.

Sums it up pretty well except I think you meant "can" which I fixed above.

smoke6
03-13-2008, 10:04 PM
My loathing of AD's K's is well documented, but AD has proven what he can do. Hamilton is too much of a shot in the dark at this point. If Hamilton can stay healthy he could be x10 better than AD. IMO

JBChance
03-14-2008, 02:27 AM
Personnally no because if I were to trade Dunn it would cost alot more to give him up than Volquez. Not to mention with Dunn you know you're going to get 40 homers, 100 RBIs, etc but with Hamilton he cant go on the DL at any minute. Hamilton really is a wild card.

I agree with this, especially the part about Hamilton being a wild card. He has had some injuries and then there is the drug history. Now, I'd love to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I would love nothing better than seeing him keep clean, but you never know.

Al least you know what you get with Dunn, "average" D and all. I do think they won't come with the multi-year deal, though.

Besides, we need pitching in the worst way. We have a surplus of outfielders and Hamilton was the only real trade option. Bruce is the future.