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Wheelhouse
03-22-2008, 02:29 PM
Freel? Gil? Castro (I know that will be loved)? You have to thing Kiriv's on the horn with Coletti...

Chip R
03-22-2008, 02:33 PM
Mama's calling, Juan.

Highlifeman21
03-22-2008, 02:36 PM
I can't imagine the Dodgers view the Reds as a good trading partner to address any IF needs.

fearofpopvol1
03-22-2008, 02:52 PM
Scully would endorse a Castro return

KronoRed
03-22-2008, 03:23 PM
If they want to trade someone decent how bout Keppinger?

pedro
03-22-2008, 03:55 PM
If they want to trade someone decent how bout Keppinger?

I can't see how the Reds could afford to lose Keppinger without another viable SS in the system other than Gonzalez.

*BaseClogger*
03-22-2008, 04:00 PM
The Reds seeking infield help...

KronoRed
03-22-2008, 04:28 PM
I can't see how the Reds could afford to lose Keppinger without another viable SS in the system other than Gonzalez.

Sure, but right now Keppinger is a backup, if the Dodgers or any team wanted to pony up something the Reds have a desperate need of (catcher, a real CF, more BP arms) then you just have to accept a weak bench.

Highlifeman21
03-22-2008, 04:29 PM
Right now the Dodgers are set at 1B (Loney) and SS (Furcal), and should be set at 2B (Kent). 3B is a question mark with Nomar being injured. Tony Abreu (I think) currently is the backup IF for 3B, SS and 2B, and is in no way shape or form a starter.

I don't see the Reds having an extra 3B to send to the Dodgers, unless the Dodgers would consider Freel and everyday 3B, which I can't see many arguments in support for that statement. After that, we'd only have Gil, Castro, or Keppinger to offer, and I'd prefer the Reds hang onto Gil and Keppinger. As for Castro, well, we all know his story... We don't want him on our roster, and no other MLB team in their right mind would want him on theirs.

Joseph
03-22-2008, 05:14 PM
LaRoche is their 3B of the future, once he's healthy, isn't that right?

So the 3B needs to fill in for a few weeks, not all season.

pedro
03-22-2008, 05:17 PM
Sure, but right now Keppinger is a backup, if the Dodgers or any team wanted to pony up something the Reds have a desperate need of (catcher, a real CF, more BP arms) then you just have to accept a weak bench.

I don't agree. I think Gonzalez is too fragile to go without a credible back up at SS. Right now Keppinger is the only guy in the entire Reds organization who even remotely fits that bill.

TRF
03-22-2008, 06:41 PM
I'd dangle Rosales, and see what the return is. Rosales is young, could be a very good defensive 3B, and can flat out rake. He's got real value.

remdog
03-22-2008, 08:15 PM
For whatever reason I just dont' feel confident that the Reds will get even a half season out of Gonzo. Normally, an injury like he suffered last season would have healed over the off season. Instead, it catches the Reds by surprise and he sits out until 10 days before Opening Day. The fact that he was cleared by 'Doc. Hollywood' does nothing to make me feel more secure.

I think SS will be a problem all season long unless Keppinger seizes the moment and makes his bat too valuable to put anywhere else.

IMO, the only guy the Dodgers might have an interest in is Freel but I don't think they would want him at his salary.

From what I've heard, Nomar should be back by May and Dodgers think they can afford to tough it out without him till then. LaRoche's injury is more of a problem.

Rem

mth123
03-22-2008, 10:07 PM
For whatever reason I just dont' feel confident that the Reds will get even a half season out of Gonzo. Normally, an injury like he suffered last season would have healed over the off season. Instead, it catches the Reds by surprise and he sits out until 10 days before Opening Day. The fact that he was cleared by 'Doc. Hollywood' does nothing to make me feel more secure.

I think SS will be a problem all season long unless Keppinger seizes the moment and makes his bat too valuable to put anywhere else.

IMO, the only guy the Dodgers might have an interest in is Freel but I don't think they would want him at his salary.

From what I've heard, Nomar should be back by May and Dodgers think they can afford to tough it out without him till then. LaRoche's injury is more of a problem.

Rem

I agree about Gonzalez/Keppinger. Gonzalez is officially a guy who misses a lot of games now and when this heals, something else will come along to keep him out of the line-up.

Freel could be useful in LA. Jeff Kent is probably going to start on the DL in addition to Laroche and Garciaparra. They could probably uses Freel to help out. When those guys are back, Freel can be a help in the OF. In the meantime the Dodgers are likely to move one of two OF that they have now. They'd love to move Pierre's contract, but that isn't likely so they may move Andre Eithier to get help elsewhere. Freel would be a perfect 4th OF for them.

Delwyn Young is another OF who is out of options, but he can really hit. He is a switch hitter who put up an OPS of 1.014 as a RH batter against LHP and an OPS of .945 as a LH Batter against RH Pitching in AAA last year. Young has proved inadequate at 2B and 3B so the Dodgers may be willing to exchange him for Freel to gain Freel's versatility whle the injuries are mounting. Young probably won't play much in LA behind Kemp, Jones, Pierre and Ethier.

Chip R
03-22-2008, 10:10 PM
IMO, the only guy the Dodgers might have an interest in is Freel but I don't think they would want him at his salary.


I'm sure a certain grandmother with seats down the RF line would have objections too.

KronoRed
03-22-2008, 10:44 PM
I'm sure a certain grandmother with seats down the RF line would have objections too.

Never know, maybe she wants payback :D

remdog
03-23-2008, 01:42 AM
Delwyn Young is another OF who is out of options, but he can really hit. He is a switch hitter who put up an OPS of 1.014 as a RH batter against LHP and an OPS of .945 as a LH Batter against RH Pitching in AAA last year. Young has proved inadequate at 2B and 3B so the Dodgers may be willing to exchange him for Freel to gain Freel's versatility whle the injuries are mounting. Young probably won't play much in LA behind Kemp, Jones, Pierre and Ethier.

Well, I'd like that trade on the surface but I think the Reds might have to kick in some cash and then there is a problem with Young being out of options. Do the Reds really need another outfielder if the guy can't play the infield? And, if he can play the infield wouldn't the Dodgers have at least a little reason to keep him for the first couple of weeks of the season until Nomar gets back?

From the LA Times:

If Garciaparra goes on the DL, that could open a roster spot for versatile Delwyn Young. He has struggled this spring but is out of options, meaning the team would have to make him available to the 29 other clubs on waivers before he could be outrighted to the minors.

Young, who has played second and the outfield this spring, leads the team with three errors and is hitting .156 with nearly twice as many strikeouts (13) as hits (seven).

Rem

mth123
03-23-2008, 06:12 AM
Well, I'd like that trade on the surface but I think the Reds might have to kick in some cash and then there is a problem with Young being out of options. Do the Reds really need another outfielder if the guy can't play the infield? And, if he can play the infield wouldn't the Dodgers have at least a little reason to keep him for the first couple of weeks of the season until Nomar gets back?

I don't think he can play the IF acceptably. But he is a legitimate bat that can play both corner OF spots. He can be the guy to caddy for for Griffey and/or Dunn with his ability to hit right handed. Meanwhile, his ability to hit LH would allow the team to move Hatteberg down the road without depleting the bench of its only lefty hitter. If Dunn isn't signed, he could be the LF in 2009. I like Freel's versatility and OB skills, but the rest of his skills are redundant with Hopper and they need to change one of those guys to more of a power threat. Of course, I'd prefer keeping Freel and moving Hopper, but Hopper's lack of power and pedestrian defense in CF makes him near replacement level. Keppinger, Cabrera, Hairston, Gil and eventually Rosales provide lots of versatility for the bench. If LA wants some cash, I'd give it to them but the Reds should still get some salary relief from a deal like this.





From the LA Times:

If Garciaparra goes on the DL, that could open a roster spot for versatile Delwyn Young. He has struggled this spring but is out of options, meaning the team would have to make him available to the 29 other clubs on waivers before he could be outrighted to the minors.

Young, who has played second and the outfield this spring, leads the team with three errors and is hitting .156 with nearly twice as many strikeouts (13) as hits (seven).

Rem

His errors are mostly while attempting to play IF, and its the reason they are looking because they know he isn't a legit option there. His spring numbers don't concern me. Guy can hit.

Topcat
03-23-2008, 06:32 AM
Freel? Gil? Castro (I know that will be loved)? You have to thing Kiriv's on the horn with Coletti...


Can he be sold for a dollar, Castro is whom I am referring to.