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BLEEDS
03-26-2008, 06:35 PM
"C. Trent has the link on his blog.

Quote:
The Phillies would love to be able to trade Helms. The Giants (for veteran lefthander Steve Kline) and the Reds (for experienced lefty Mike Stanton) are among the teams they are believed to be talking to. "


If there is a Reds God in Heaven, he will grant us this one Miracle!!!:pray:

PEACE

-BLEEDS

krm1580
03-26-2008, 07:05 PM
Guys I live in Philly and I can say without question we do not want Wes Helms. He actually makes more than Stanton (3.5 Million) and is equally worthless with the bat (career .761OPS) and glove (.932 fielding%).

I agree Stanton has to go but if you trade a turd for a turd at the end of the day you still have a pile of crap on your hands.

Can't we just leave Stanton out but the curb and hope the garbage truck picks him up?

Johnny Cueto
03-26-2008, 07:58 PM
I would take helms over stanton any day. Stanton = :bash:

CarolinaRedleg
03-26-2008, 08:10 PM
I think at this point, I'd take a bucket of batting practice balls and a fungo bat for Stanton.

REDblooded
03-26-2008, 08:31 PM
I agree with the stinky hands theory

SultanOfSwing
03-26-2008, 08:43 PM
Guys I live in Philly and I can say without question we do not want Wes Helms. He actually makes more than Stanton (3.5 Million) and is equally worthless with the bat (career .761OPS) and glove (.932 fielding%).

I agree Stanton has to go but if you trade a turd for a turd at the end of the day you still have a pile of crap on your hands.

Can't we just leave Stanton out but the curb and hope the garbage truck picks him up?
But he wouldn't be asked to be the 3B. He would be used as a platoon partner for Votto and occasionally sub in other positions (3B, LF).

I wouldn't be worried about his defense. I would concentrate on these career numbers:

vs LHP
.280 .359 .476 .835

2nd Half of Season
.282 .346 .468 .814

81 PA at GABP
.338 .407 .521 .928

Looks like a pretty useful platoon/bench player to me. Sign me up!

Degenerate39
03-26-2008, 08:44 PM
Helms would strengthen the bench and the Reds would get rid of Stanton. I would do it in a heart beat.

FreelFanatic
03-27-2008, 04:43 PM
According to Hal's blog (http://www.daytondailynews.com/o/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/index.html, dated this morning:


Are we missing a name here? Oh, yeah. Mike Stanton and his $3 million contract (with a $500,000 buyout). The Phillies inquired about his availability, offering first baseman/third baseman Wes Helmes. The Reds said no.

Wow. I would've liked this one.

BLEEDS
03-27-2008, 04:55 PM
According to Hal's blog (http://www.daytondailynews.com/o/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/index.html, dated this morning:

Are we missing a name here? Oh, yeah. Mike Stanton and his $3 million contract (with a $500,000 buyout). The Phillies inquired about his availability, offering first baseman/third baseman Wes Helmes. The Reds said no.



:confused::angry::bang::confused::angry::bang:

:explode:

PEACE

-BLEEDS

Rounding Third
03-27-2008, 05:13 PM
If the Reds said no to getting rid of Stanton like that then you can probably bet on having him on the 25 man roster. I am still pulling for Dusty on this though.

NDReds9
03-27-2008, 08:40 PM
Wes is a stupid name.
He's fat.
He's ugly.
He's slow.
HE SUCKS.

LouisvilleCARDS
03-27-2008, 09:18 PM
You gotta be kidding me. Stanton sucks, he should have been CUT last year. Getting ANYTHING AT ALL for him has to be an improvement. What makes the Reds organization think that he's going to improve any from last year, getting a year older?

Johnny Cueto
03-28-2008, 02:17 AM
Yea, and he's already looking like his 07 self with his spring training performance. At best he is mediocre and ineffective. RELEASE HIM NOW!!!!!!!! I would much rather have Mercker or one of the younger guys make the team.

UPRedsFan
03-28-2008, 10:30 AM
Stanton hasn't pitched in awhile has he?

I wonder if that means Wayne's trying to work a trade and doesn't want to risk blowing it by letting him pitch and have a bad outing.

UPRedsFan
03-28-2008, 11:15 AM
I checked all the box scores and Stanton hasn't pitched since March 10 against the Yankees, unless I'm missing a game.

FreelFanatic
03-28-2008, 11:22 AM
I checked all the box scores and Stanton hasn't pitched since March 10 against the Yankees, unless I'm missing a game.


According to the official Game Notes,

DATE OPP IP H R ER BB SO
3/10 at NYY 1.0 - - - 1 -
3/13 vs Phi 1.0 - - - 1 1
3/15 Minor league 1.0 (19 pitches)
3/17 vs New Britain 2.0 2 1 1 - 3
Fri at Pit 1.0 2 1 1 - -
Sat Simulated 1.0 - - - - -

Sorry I couldn't space this out, but the gist is the games, like you asked.

CySeymour
03-28-2008, 11:48 AM
I wonder if they are wanting to move Stanton/Freel et al for someone who they don't have to put on the 40 man roster. If you look at the roster, there isn't a lot of wiggle room, and the team is still going to have to add Patterson and maybe Merker. Yeah, I know, they could just cut Castro, but really, do you THINK they would do that? No, I don't think they will either. Still, someone is going to have to go off of the 40 man.

shREDded29
03-28-2008, 11:58 AM
http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080326&content_id=2460201&vkey=spt2008news&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Bottom of the article: Two Reds left camp this week because of personal issues. Both outfielder Norris Hopper and pitcher Mike Stanton are dealing with family emergencies.

I(heart)Freel
03-28-2008, 05:23 PM
This rumor becomes more interesting in light of the Stanton release today.

Guess the Reds thought so little of Helms - or more liked someone else in the system for that spot on the roster - to do the trade. It's interesting.

It has to come down to a bball decision.

Here's Helms contract situation:

07:$2.05M
08:$2.15M
09:$3.75M club option ($0.75M buyout)