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RedLegSuperStar
03-27-2008, 04:40 PM
MLBTradeRumors.com -


Rays Trade Talks To Pick Up?
Joe Smith of the St. Petersburg Times says the Rays' trade talks for an outfielder "should intensify in the next couple days." Smith suggests the Mariners, Dodgers, and Angels as teams with outfielders to spare. He believes the Rays might part with an out of options pitcher like Edwin Jackson or Jason Hammel. Hat tip to DRays Bay, which speculates on Andre Ethier, Delwyn Young, Reggie Willits, Juan Rivera, and Jeremy Reed as possibities. The Halos seem like a pretty good match.

Additional outfielders the Rays could consider: Matt Murton, Gabe Gross, Xavier Nady, Jason Bay, Jay Payton, Coco Crisp, Shin-Soo Choo, David Dellucci, Randy Winn, Dave Roberts, Kevin Mench, Nathan Haynes, Nelson Cruz, and Ryan Freel. Whew.

Highlifeman21
03-27-2008, 04:43 PM
Edwin Jackson for Ryan Freel would be a heist, to say the least.

The Rays can't possibly be that stupid.

redsfan30
03-27-2008, 04:45 PM
The Rays would "consider" Jason Bay for Edwin Jackson?

:laugh:

Matt700wlw
03-27-2008, 04:47 PM
:wave: I'm in!

RedLegSuperStar
03-27-2008, 04:49 PM
Reds would no doubt have to include cash if they want to get Jackson.

Another thing is who do you send down to make room for Jackson? He's out of options and Coffey and Bray look good. Burton has been tarnished a bit this spring but he was the most relible arm in the pen after the break last year. Stanton looks like he's going to make it by default.

camisadelgolf
03-27-2008, 04:51 PM
Edwin Jackson for Ryan Freel would be a heist, to say the least.

The Rays can't possibly be that stupid.

Huh?

reds44
03-27-2008, 04:51 PM
If we could send Freel + cash for Jackson sign me up and put Edwin in the bullpen. He has sick stuff.

puca
03-27-2008, 05:06 PM
Edwin Jackson for Ryan Freel would be a heist, to say the least.

The Rays can't possibly be that stupid.

I don't get the love for Edwin Jackson. No, not at all.

I might be willing to trade Ryan Freel for him, but seriously Edwin Jackson's star faded a long time ago. Maybe he has just been miscast as a starter, but he has been nothing short of awful in his major league career.

M2
03-27-2008, 05:08 PM
Edwin Jackson might top the list of pitchers I don't want. He's all kinds of awful, a Luke Hudson wannabe.

lollipopcurve
03-27-2008, 05:13 PM
Freel won't do it. I'm guessing they'll get a better, cheaper player. Jackson has plus stuff and youth still on his side.

savafan
03-27-2008, 05:31 PM
Jackson has had a pretty good spring from what I hear. I wouldn't hate that deal.

camisadelgolf
03-27-2008, 05:31 PM
Am I the only person here who would rather have Freel over Jackson?

WMR
03-27-2008, 05:37 PM
I think Edwin would be an intriguing arm to take a chance on. Certainly wouldn't mind moving Freel to get him. Put him in the pen, use him in low-pressure situations and see what you've got.

M2
03-27-2008, 05:39 PM
Jackson has had a pretty good spring from what I hear. I wouldn't hate that deal.

23.2 IP, 20 H, 1 HR, 9 BB, 11 K, 4.56 ERA this spring.

Nothing much to write home about.

M2
03-27-2008, 05:39 PM
Am I the only person here who would rather have Freel over Jackson?

No, I'd rather have Freel too.

OnBaseMachine
03-27-2008, 05:40 PM
Edwin Jackson has been a huge bust to this point in his career but he's still only 24 years old and throws in the mid 90's with a great slider. So yeah, I'd trade Ryan Freel for him. If he has options remaining then I'd send him to Louisville and let him work on being a reliever down there.

RedlegJake
03-27-2008, 06:02 PM
I don't believe he has options left - and if he did then he wouldn't be trade bait most likely. The guy has been an enormous bust to this point. Last year's Reds might've been served well to take a flier on him but not this year's team.

OnBaseMachine
03-27-2008, 06:06 PM
I just looked it up. Jackson is out of options.

Highlifeman21
03-27-2008, 06:14 PM
Freel's not a long-term solution for the Reds, whereas Jackson could be.

It would be a low expectation move, while addressing the log-jam. I look at this at a potential win-win.

reds44
03-27-2008, 06:17 PM
You can't teach the stuff that Jackson has. Put him in the bullpen and have Pole work with him.

M2
03-27-2008, 06:38 PM
You can't teach the stuff that Jackson has.

Straight fastball, hanging curve, inconsistent delivery, lack of control ...

jojo
03-27-2008, 06:43 PM
I'd give Freel's contract to Tampa. Adding a low cost/stuff-oozing arm to the pen would be gravy.

Tampa could have Bay on the next flight to Florida if they decided they wanted him.

Murton/Willits/Nady probably are the guys they'd actually "target".

Freel probably isn't high on Tampa's list.

RedsManRick
03-27-2008, 06:43 PM
Matt Belisle is a piece of crap and yet we should pursue Edwin Jackson. I'm not sure I follow... I'd trade Freel for him only if he took Stanton's place in the pen.

Highlifeman21
03-27-2008, 06:44 PM
Straight fastball, hanging curve, inconsistent delivery, lack of control ...

Hmmmmmm.

Maybe you're right. We already have one of those: Homer Bailey.


And that's not a cheap shot at Homer. It's an honest observation. I just caught myself up to speed on Edwin Jackson, and I still think he's a low risk, high reward type arm, but not to expect miracles immediately. Maybe Freel might be a bit too much to pay for Jackson, but I still wouldn't mind getting Jackson.

Bottomline, I'd like to see the Reds trade away surplus in order to obtain more pitching. Hopefully along the way they actually obtain some quality pitching.

reds44
03-27-2008, 06:49 PM
Straight fastball, hanging curve, inconsistent delivery, lack of control ...
That sounds amazingly like Homer Bailey.

I'd still like to see what he (Jackson) could do in the pen.

RedsManRick
03-27-2008, 06:53 PM
The Jackson:Bailey comp is scary.

lollipopcurve
03-27-2008, 07:09 PM
Jackson is fastball/hard slider with little to no offspeed.

Bailey is fastball, big curve, developing change, embryonic slider.

They're quite different in terms of repertoire.

OnBaseMachine
03-27-2008, 07:12 PM
Edwin Jackson never put up the H/9 or K/9 rates that Bailey put up in the minors.

Homer Bailey

7.15 H/9
9.85 K/9

Edwin Jackson

8.35 H/9
7.74 K/9

reds44
03-27-2008, 07:14 PM
Jackson is fastball/hard slider with little to no offspeed.

Bailey is fastball, big curve, developing change, embryonic slider.

They're quite different in terms of repertoire.
That's why I think he'll never be anything as a slider. However with his mid 90's heat, and if he can control his 83-85 MPH slider he could be an effective bullpen pitcher.

mth123
03-27-2008, 07:46 PM
Am I the only person here who would rather have Freel over Jackson?

I'd rather have Freel. Jackson wouldn't make the team.

flyer85
03-27-2008, 07:49 PM
maybe the Reds could use a dangling jackson

LINEDRIVER
03-27-2008, 10:49 PM
Edwin Jackson?? No Thanks.

2007 with TampaBay 161 innings 5.76 ERA 1.76 WHIP