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Rounding Third
04-02-2008, 01:44 PM
John Fay had a report on it, here is the link to the USA Today Salary Database

http://content.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/teamresults.aspx?team=18

Corey Patterson - $3MM
Alex Gonzalez - $4.625MM

Paying a combined total of $7.625MM for 2 players to start with OBP under .300

durl
04-02-2008, 01:49 PM
Gonzalez isn't necessarily being paid to have a huge OBP. He was obtained primarily for his defense. He had plenty of distractions last year, also.

Patterson? I'm willing to see if he is ready to become the player everyone thought he'd be. Very few people thought bringing in Brandon Phillips was a good idea because of his poor performance but now he's one of the best 2B in baseball.

Moosie52
04-02-2008, 02:06 PM
What's Valentin making?

UK Reds Fan
04-02-2008, 02:22 PM
This is why it is so hard to back what Krivsky is doing?

1. Paying 3Mil to Patterson that wasn't going to get that contract from anyone else.
2. Paying 3Mil to Patterson when you've already sunk down money for Freel and had Bruce/Hopper to do the same job for leauge minimum.

The comparison to Phillips is flawed on one premise....Phillips came at virtually no cost at all..because there was no market demand. Patterson may out perform his past and live up to his gaudy expactations, but it should have been done at small cost. Not 3 Million.

Add this to the wasted resources of Stanton, Affeldt, Freel, Gonzalez, etc...there is money to get some better free agents or at least sign the best players via draft instead of continuing to draft with signability in mind.

durl
04-02-2008, 04:31 PM
Patterson is a gamble, no doubt. I thought it was unnecessary to bring the guy into camp. But if he can carry his great Spring performance into the regular season it'll end up being a good acquisition. Hey, Baltimore was paying him $4.6 million so Cincinnati got him for a 30% less. :)

Hopper and Freel basically got the job done and Hopper at least was more affordable. Patterson's upside, while not yet reached, is higher than Hopper's and apparently was a risk Krivsky was willing to take. Phillips is a prime example of a player that ended up living up to his high potential. Hopefully Patterson can do the same in Cincinnati.