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OnBaseMachine
04-09-2008, 01:40 PM
Johnny Cueto is the first pitcher since 1900 to strikeout at least 18 batters in his first two starts and not walk a batter. Wow. That puts it in perspective to just how amazing he has really been in those first two starts. 13.1 innings, only six hits (one should have an error), three runs, no walks, and 18 strikeouts. What a special pitcher this kid is going to be. Keep him healthy and he's got a chance to go where no Reds pitcher has gone before - Cy Young award winner. And to think the Reds signed him for 3,500 dollars. I'd say that is the steal of the century.

OnBaseMachine
04-09-2008, 01:44 PM
Hardy said both of his singles off Cueto broke his bats.

"I saw a little bit of his performance his first outing and I was a little bit intimidated by the way he was throwing," Hardy said. "He has really good stuff."

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280408108

RedsManRick
04-09-2008, 01:53 PM
Never underestimate the value of a pitcher who can locate his heat.

Edskin
04-09-2008, 01:55 PM
Never underestimate the value of a pitcher who can locate his heat.

Well said. His location is phenomenal. I'll wait to go nuts over him until he's been through the league a few times, but man, he looks straight filthy out there. Never been more excited about a Reds pitcher.

Screwball
04-09-2008, 01:58 PM
Johnny Cueto is the first pitcher since 1900 to strikeout at least 18 batters in his first two starts and not walk a batter. Wow. That puts it in perspective to just how amazing he has really been in those first two starts. 13.1 innings, only six hits (one should have an error), three runs, no walks, and 18 strikeouts. What a special pitcher this kid is going to be. Keep him healthy and he's got a chance to go where no Reds pitcher has gone before - Cy Young award winner. And to think the Reds signed him for 3,500 dollars. I'd say that is the steal of the century.

Wow. Cueto might be one of those rare cases where a guy actually outperforms the hype.

RBA
04-09-2008, 01:58 PM
One consolation last night, at least Cueto was not tagged with a loss.

RBA
04-09-2008, 02:00 PM
I will write a check for $3500 right now for the Reds to go out and sign another one just like him.

George Anderson
04-09-2008, 02:05 PM
And to think the Reds signed him for 3,500 dollars. I'd say that is the steal of the century.

I don't know the name of the scout that discovered Cueto, but if I ever run into him I am going to buy him a beer ..................... scratch that make it a keg.

OnBaseMachine
04-09-2008, 02:08 PM
I don't know the name of the scout that discovered Cueto, but if I ever run into him I am going to buy him a beer ..................... scratch that make it a keg.

Johnny Almarez.

BRM
04-09-2008, 02:13 PM
Johnny Almarez.

He's finding the next Cueto for someone else now.

MrCinatit
04-09-2008, 02:14 PM
What is the record for most innings at the start of a career without issuing a walk?
But that 18/0 K/W ration is unreal.

Screwball
04-09-2008, 02:15 PM
He's finding the next Cueto for someone else now.

Did he make any other notable signings for the Reds either out of the Dominican or elsewhere? (no snark, honest question)

fearofpopvol1
04-09-2008, 02:17 PM
Did he make any other notable signings for the Reds either out of the Dominican or elsewhere? (no snark, honest question)

Paul Bako

klw
04-09-2008, 02:18 PM
Here is Kerry Wood's first season gamelog as a comparison.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=woodke02&t=p&year=1998
Here are his first 6 games


CarGm TmG Date Opp DR GmReslt Pitcher Result IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA BF Pit Str StC StS StL GB FB LD ?? GmSc IR IS SB CS Pk AB 2B 3B IW HB SH SF RE DP WPA LevI
+-----+---+---------+----+--+-------+--------------+----+--+--+--+--+--+--+------+--+---+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+--+----+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-----+-----+
1 12 Apr 12 @MON - L 1-4 GS-5 ,L 0-1 4.2 4 4 4 3 7 0 7.71 21 102 62 32 13 17 4 1 5 0 44 0 0 0 17 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 -4% 0.91
2 17 Apr 18 LAD 5 W 8-1 GS-5 ,W 1-1 5 4 0 0 3 7 0 3.72 21 102 61 33 13 15 5 3 3 0 63 0 0 1 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8% 0.35
3 22 Apr 24 @LAD 5 L 4-12 GS-2 ,L 1-2 1.2 2 7 7 4 2 1 8.74 12 53 26 14 5 7 3 1 1 0 21 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 -46% 1.51
4 27 Apr 30 STL 5 W 8-3 GS-7 ,W 2-2 7 5 1 1 2 9 0 5.89 27 107 69 34 13 22 7 5 4 0 70 1 1 0 25 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 16% 0.67
5 32 May 6 HOU 5 W 2-0 SHO9 ,W 3-2 9 1 0 0 0 20 0 3.95 29 122 84 30 24 30 5 3 0 0 105 0 0 0 27 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 67% 1.07
6 37 May 11 @ARI 4 W 4-2 GS-7 ,W 4-2 7 5 1 1 1 13 1 3.41 27 107 77 39 21 17 5 3 5 0

rotnoid
04-09-2008, 02:18 PM
That is an impressive stat. Just thinking back on the sheer number of guys to pitch in the last 108 years. Astounding. he's the kind of guy that could keep it up too. Bring on the Cy Youngs.

Cyclone792
04-09-2008, 02:23 PM
In comparison, by the time Homer Bailey recorded strikeout #18 last season, he had already walked 22 batters.

Command is such a beautiful thing.

OnBaseMachine
04-09-2008, 02:23 PM
Did he make any other notable signings for the Reds either out of the Dominican or elsewhere? (no snark, honest question)

Almaraz began his baseball career as a pitcher in the Reds organization, but blew out his shoulder after two years and turned to scouting and had been with the Reds for 16 years.

He began with the Reds in player development in 2001 and was instrumental in signing outfielder Adam Dunn and catcher Jason LaRue and many Latino players.

He was instrumental in establishing the team's Latin American academies in Venezuela and the Dominican Republic.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/sports/pro/reds/2006/12/12/ddn121306reds2.html

Off the top of my head Cueto, Pedro Viola, and maybe Juan Francisco are the only Latin players the Reds signed under Almarez who could help the Reds.

redsmetz
04-09-2008, 02:25 PM
He's finding the next Cueto for someone else now.

Here's what Fay wrote about the signing of Cueto. The guy to thank is the friend who kept after Almarez to have a look at the player.


In March 2004, Johnny Almaraz, then the Reds' director of international scouting and player development, was in the Dominican Republic, helping to set up the Reds' academy there.

"We were fielding a team in the Dominican Summer League," Almaraz said, "so we needed players."

Almaraz left most of the signing to his scouts. But a friend kept trying to get him to look at a little right-hander named Johnny Cueto who threw 90-91 mph.

"Nobody wanted to sign Johnny because they thought he was too small," Almaraz said.

Almaraz told his buddy the only time he had available to see Cueto was on his way to airport.

"I told him if he could get together a game at 7 in the morning, I'd look at the kid," Almaraz said.

OldRightHander
04-09-2008, 02:36 PM
I will write a check for $3500 right now for the Reds to go out and sign another one just like him.

Not too many of those out there.

bucksfan2
04-09-2008, 02:45 PM
Never underestimate the value of a pitcher who can locate his heat.

Not only is his location very very impressive but he is very good at keeping the ball down. His fastballs hover right around the lower part of the strike zone. Unlike any reds pitcher that I can remember he backs plays off the plate. If he misses he misses low. This kid knows how to pitch. He knows how to used all the parts of the plate. Its odd seing Cueto display characteristics that no red developed pitcher for years has shown.

Always Red
04-09-2008, 03:19 PM
Its odd seing Cueto display characteristics that no red developed pitcher for years has shown.

Not since the days of Mario Soto.

Last nights game was the first one I have watched in some time where I watched every single pitch that a Reds pitcher threw, and then went and took care of things I needed to do while the Reds were at bat.

That struck me as odd, since usually I do things the other way, watching the Reds hit and recoiling in horror, running and hiding, or flipping the channel when the Reds are pitching...:eek: