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Big Klu
04-18-2008, 07:51 AM
50 years ago (1958), a 4-1 win at Forbes Field in Pittsburgh.

Cincinnati
Johnny Temple 2b
Vada Pinson rf
Frank Robinson lf
George Crowe 1b
Don Hoak 3b
Gus Bell cf
Ed Bailey c
Roy McMillan ss
Bob Purkey p

Pittsburgh
Bill Virdon cf
Dick Groat ss
Bob Skinner lf
Ted Kluszewski 1b
Frank Thomas 3b
Roberto Clemente rf
Bill Mazeroski 2b
Hank Foiles c
Ron Kline p


WP: Bob Purkey (1-0)
LP: Ron Kline (0-1)
Sv: Hal Jeffcoat (1)
HR: CIN - Vada Pinson (1).

Rookie RF Vada Pinson hit his first major-league home run in this game--a grand slam with one out in the third inning to account for all four of the Reds' runs.

Big Klu
04-18-2008, 07:51 AM
40 years ago (1968), a 4-3 12-inning win at Crosley Field vs. the Cardinals.

St. Louis
Lou Brock lf
Curt Flood cf
Bobby Tolan rf
Orlando Cepeda 1b
Johnny Edwards c
Mike Shannon 3b
Julian Javier 2b
Dal Maxvill ss
Ray Washburn p

Cincinnati
Pete Rose rf
Alex Johnson lf
Vada Pinson cf
Tony Perez 3b
Lee May 1b
Johnny Bench c
Tommy Helms 2b
Leo Cardenas ss
George Culver p


WP: Bob Lee (2-1)
LP: Larry Jaster (0-1)
HR: CIN - Pete Rose (2).

Big Klu
04-18-2008, 07:52 AM
35 years ago (1973), a 4-2 loss at San Diego Stadium.

Cincinnati
Pete Rose lf
Joe Morgan 2b
Bobby Tolan rf
Johnny Bench c
Tony Perez 1b
Cesar Geronimo cf
Phil Gagliano 3b
Dave Concepcion ss
Roger Nelson p

San Diego
Enzo Hernandez ss
Derrel Thomas 2b
Leron Lee lf
Nate Colbert 1b
Dave Marshall rf
Johnny Grubb cf
Dave Hilton 3b
Fred Kendall c
Steve Arlin p


WP: Steve Arlin (1-1)
LP: Roger Nelson (1-1)
Sv: Bill Greif (1)
HR: None.

The Reds committed five errors in this game--two by 3B Phil Gagliano, two by P Ed Sprague, and one by P Pedro Borbon.

Big Klu
04-18-2008, 07:53 AM
30 years ago (1978), an 11-3 win at Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles.

Cincinnati
Pete Rose 3b
Ken Griffey rf
Joe Morgan 2b
George Foster lf
Dan Driessen 1b
Johnny Bench c
Dave Concepcion ss
Cesar Geronimo cf
Fred Norman p

Los Angeles
Davey Lopes 2b
Bill Russell ss
Reggie Smith rf
Ron Cey 3b
Steve Garvey 1b
Dusty Baker lf
Rick Monday cf
Steve Yeager c
Don Sutton p


WP: Fred Norman (2-0)
LP: Don Sutton (1-1)
Sv: Dale Murray (2)
HR: CIN - Ken Griffey (1), George Foster (3), Joe Morgan (3), Johnny Bench (4). LA - Steve Garvey (2).

Dale Murray picked up his second 3-inning save of the season for the Reds.

Big Klu
04-18-2008, 07:53 AM
20 years ago (1988), a 6-3 12-inning loss at Riverfront Stadium vs. the Giants.

San Francisco
Brett Butler cf
Kevin Mitchell 3b
Will Clark 1b
Candy Maldonado rf
Jeffrey Leonard lf
Bob Brenly c
Robby Thompson 2b
Jose Uribe ss
Mike Krukow p

Cincinnati
Barry Larkin ss
Jeff Treadway 2b
Kal Daniels lf
Eric Davis cf
Nick Esasky 1b
Bo Diaz c
Paul O'Neill rf
Chris Sabo 3b
Tom Browning p


WP: Craig Lefferts (1-0)
LP: Pat Perry (1-2)
Sv: Joe Price (1)
HR: CIN - Chris Sabo (1).

Rookie 3B Chris Sabo hit his first major-league home run in this game.

Big Klu
04-18-2008, 07:54 AM
15 years ago (1993), a 3-2 win at Riverfront vs. the Mets.

New York Mets
Vince Coleman lf
Tony Fernandez ss
Eddie Murray 1b
Bobby Bonilla rf
Howard Johnson 3b
Jeff Kent 2b
Ryan Thompson cf
Todd Hundley c
Bret Saberhagen p

Cincinnati
Roberto Kelly cf
Jeff Branson 2b
Barry Larkin ss
Kevin Mitchell lf
Chris Sabo 3b
Randy Milligan 1b
Reggie Sanders rf
Joe Oliver c
Tim Pugh p


WP: Steve Foster (1-2)
LP: Bret Saberhagen (2-1)
Sv: Rob Dibble (3)
HR: NY - Howard Johnson (2).

Tim Pugh, Steve Foster, and Rob Dibble combined on a five-hitter for the Reds. Bret Saberhagen pitched a complete-game nine-hitter in a losing effort for the Mets.

Big Klu
04-18-2008, 07:54 AM
10 years ago (1998), a 5-4 10-inning loss at Riverfront vs. the Metropolitans.

New York Mets
Rich Becker lf
Edgardo Alfonzo 3b
John Olerud 1b
Butch Huskey rf
Brian McRae cf
Carlos Baerga 2b
Alberto Castillo c
Rey Ordoñez ss
Masato Yoshii p

Cincinnati
Chris Stynes lf
Jon Nunnally rf
Barry Larkin ss
Eddie Taubensee c
Dmitri Young 1b
Willie Greene 3b
Bret Boone 2b
Reggie Sanders cf
Pete Harnisch p


WP: Mel Rojas (1-0)
LP: Stan Belinda (0-2)
Sv: John Franco (4)
HR: CIN - Eddie Taubensee (1), Jon Nunnally (1).

cumberlandreds
04-18-2008, 09:30 AM
35 years ago (1973), a 4-2 loss at San Diego Stadium.

Cincinnati
Pete Rose lf
Joe Morgan 2b
Bobby Tolan rf
Johnny Bench c
Tony Perez 1b
Cesar Geronimo cf
Phil Gagliano 3b
Dave Concepcion ss
Roger Nelson p

San Diego
Enzo Hernandez ss
Derrel Thomas 2b
Leron Lee lf
Nate Colbert 1b
Dave Marshall rf
Johnny Grubb cf
Dave Hilton 3b
Fred Kendall c
Steve Arlin p


WP: Steve Arlin (1-1)
LP: Roger Nelson (1-1)
Sv: Bill Greif (1)
HR: None.

The Reds committed five errors in this game--two by 3B Phil Gagliano, two by P Ed Sprague, and one by P Pedro Borbon.


I may have mentioned this before but Steve Arlin's grandfather broadcast the first MLB game ever on radio back in 1921 for KDKA in Pittsburgh.
The Reds problems at 3b continue. Gags is a good PH but not an everyday 3b. Need to bring up that kid, Driessen, from AAA and give him a shot.

George Anderson
04-18-2008, 11:02 AM
35 years ago (1973), a 4-2 loss at San Diego Stadium.

Cincinnati
Pete Rose lf
Joe Morgan 2b
Bobby Tolan rf
Johnny Bench c
Tony Perez 1b
Cesar Geronimo cf
Phil Gagliano 3b
Dave Concepcion ss
Roger Nelson p

San Diego
Enzo Hernandez ss
Derrel Thomas 2b
Leron Lee lf
Nate Colbert 1b
Dave Marshall rf
Johnny Grubb cf
Dave Hilton 3b
Fred Kendall c
Steve Arlin p


WP: Steve Arlin (1-1)
LP: Roger Nelson (1-1)
Sv: Bill Greif (1)
HR: None.

The Reds committed five errors in this game--two by 3B Phil Gagliano, two by P Ed Sprague, and one by P Pedro Borbon.

Why is Phil Gagliano playing so much? Was Dennis Menke hurt?

MrCinatit
04-18-2008, 03:42 PM
40 years ago (1968), a 4-3 12-inning win at Crosley Field vs. the Cardinals.
St. Louis
Lou Brock lf
Curt Flood cf
Bobby Tolan rf
Orlando Cepeda 1b
Johnny Edwards c
Mike Shannon 3b
Julian Javier 2b
Dal Maxvill ss
Ray Washburn p
Cincinnati
Pete Rose rf
Alex Johnson lf
Vada Pinson cf
Tony Perez 3b
Lee May 1b
Johnny Bench c
Tommy Helms 2b
Leo Cardenas ss
George Culver p
WP: Bob Lee (2-1)
LP: Larry Jaster (0-1)
HR: CIN - Pete Rose (2).

My dad was in the hospital waiting room waiting for his son to be born - dad says he was listening to the game and Johnny Bench got a couple of doubles that night and knew he would turn into a pretty good player.
So by that logic, I should have grown up to be a Bench fan. Instead, I chose to root for the guy who hit a homer in that game.


I may have mentioned this before but Steve Arlin's grandfather broadcast the first MLB game ever on radio back in 1921 for KDKA in Pittsburgh.
The Reds problems at 3b continue. Gags is a good PH but not an everyday 3b. Need to bring up that kid, Driessen, from AAA and give him a shot.

They could call up that Driessen kid. There's been talk of moving the left fielder to third, but that is crazy talk (though it is interesting that now, there is discussion of moving the 3rd baseman to left).

redsrule2500
04-18-2008, 03:44 PM
10 years ago (1998), a 5-4 10-inning loss at Riverfront vs. the Metropolitans.

New York Mets
Rich Becker lf
Edgardo Alfonzo 3b
John Olerud 1b
Butch Huskey rf
Brian McRae cf
Carlos Baerga 2b
Alberto Castillo c
Rey Ordoņez ss
Masato Yoshii p

Cincinnati
Chris Stynes lf
Jon Nunnally rf
Barry Larkin ss
Eddie Taubensee c
Dmitri Young 1b
Willie Greene 3b
Bret Boone 2b
Reggie Sanders cf
Pete Harnisch p


WP: Mel Rojas (1-0)
LP: Stan Belinda (0-2)
Sv: John Franco (4)
HR: CIN - Eddie Taubensee (1), Jon Nunnally (1).

Awesome, Chris Stynes and Eddie Taubansee! First lineup listed I can actually remember.

Hoosier Red
04-18-2008, 03:58 PM
They could call up that Driessen kid. There's been talk of moving the left fielder to third, but that is crazy talk (though it is interesting that now, there is discussion of moving the 3rd baseman to left).

Left fielder to 3rd? That'll never work, don't people understand how the defensive spectrum works. You move left to right, not right to left! :D

Big Klu
04-18-2008, 05:47 PM
Why is Phil Gagliano playing so much? Was Dennis Menke hurt?

Maybe it's because Denis Menke just wasn't very good anymore. For the season, he hit only .191 with 3 HR's and 26 RBI's in 241 AB's. He did have a respectable .368 OBP, thanks to 69 BB's, but he managed only a .270 SLG (only 13 extra-base hits) and a .638 OPS. Other than the ability to take a walk (which is less valuable in the #8 spot in the order, except that it turns the lineup over), he contributed next to nothing offensively.

cumberlandreds
04-18-2008, 11:40 PM
My dad was in the hospital waiting room waiting for his son to be born - dad says he was listening to the game and Johnny Bench got a couple of doubles that night and knew he would turn into a pretty good player.
So by that logic, I should have grown up to be a Bench fan. Instead, I chose to root for the guy who hit a homer in that game.



They could call up that Driessen kid. There's been talk of moving the left fielder to third, but that is crazy talk (though it is interesting that now, there is discussion of moving the 3rd baseman to left).

IIRC, the Reds did give George Foster a try at 3rd base in the minors after they picked him up from SF. Obviously it didn't work out.