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Danny Serafini
04-21-2008, 04:19 PM
Per team press notes. Jerry Hairston comes up, along with Belisle to fill Weathers' spot.

Benihana
04-21-2008, 04:19 PM
:thumbup:

membengal
04-21-2008, 04:20 PM
Well done Reds. Well done.

Team Clark
04-21-2008, 04:22 PM
Wow... just about 15 mins ago I wondered out loud if today would be the day Castro was released. I need to do that more often.

Ron Madden
04-21-2008, 04:22 PM
:KoolAid::rockband::jump:

RFS62
04-21-2008, 04:22 PM
The end of an era.

Raisor
04-21-2008, 04:24 PM
Don't tell Pedro, his head is big enough already.

pedro
04-21-2008, 04:24 PM
I win!

REDREAD
04-21-2008, 04:25 PM
I'm still in denial about this.. I'm sure Wayne shed a lot of tears over this one. :lol:

Better a couple years late than never.

WVRedsFan
04-21-2008, 04:25 PM
Amazing. I thought it was obvious from the beginning, re: his worth.

Question: How much money are we on the hook for and was this year the end of his contract?

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2008, 04:25 PM
Manos del Oro, meet Tarjeta de Rosa.

westofyou
04-21-2008, 04:25 PM
Wow... I was right.

me... wow... imagine that they called up Jerry Hairston.. not David Byrne, not Tina Weymoth not even Jonathon Richmond.. but Jerry Hairston.

Crazy

George Anderson
04-21-2008, 04:25 PM
I bet Jimbo has him on speed dial.

RedsManRick
04-21-2008, 04:26 PM
:beerme:

Hopefully we can retain Castro as an instructor -- I can't imagine he's going to catch on anywhere.

WVRedsFan
04-21-2008, 04:26 PM
Monday seems to be the Reds "move" day.

Chip R
04-21-2008, 04:27 PM
I'm not going to believe it till I see a link confirming it.

redsfan30
04-21-2008, 04:27 PM
Tough to argue with this one.

medford
04-21-2008, 04:28 PM
wow. So what happens when Ross finishes up his 15 day rehab assignment tomorrow? I kind of thought that is when Juan would get released. I guess there is still room for coffee to get sent back down or for Fogg to be released. I'm guessing as long as Belisle shows he's worthy of sticking in the rotation and there are no injuries or major drop off in production from the youngsters in the rotation, that Fogg will be released once Bray proves to be 100% healthy and ready for the big club.

I think Bray is ready today, but I'm not convinced the Reds are 100% certain he can go on back to back days, which I think holds the key to his advancement up to the big club.

Sea Ray
04-21-2008, 04:28 PM
I'm surprised they did this with AGon still on the shelf. Shows they valued him about as much as RZers. To think there was hysteria at one point that he'd be our starting SS...

Raisor
04-21-2008, 04:28 PM
I win!

Krono owes you 50-million bucks now. Hope you don't mind taking it in empty applejuice bottles. Well, you are in Oregon, so you'll be able to get the refund.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2008, 04:29 PM
Woohoo! Thank you Wayne!

Now get Bray up here.

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2008, 04:30 PM
I'm surprised they did this with AGon still on the shelf. Shows they valued him about as much as RZers. To think they was hysteria at one point that he'd be our starting SS...

Baker loves him some sucky players (see: Perez, Nefi).

Luckily, Castro wasn't one of HIS sucky players.

Unassisted
04-21-2008, 04:30 PM
me... wow... imagine that they called up Jerry Hairston.. not David Byrne, not Tina Weymoth not even Jonathon Richmond.. but Jerry Hairston.
This kind of thing only happens Once in a Lifetime.

Tom Servo
04-21-2008, 04:31 PM
No words...should have...sent...a poet...

Tony Cloninger
04-21-2008, 04:33 PM
IF Ross comes back this week then Javier needs to go.

When Gonzo comes back...get rid of Fogg.

Bray takes out Coffey.

This team needs to go back to 11 pitchers.

MrCinatit
04-21-2008, 04:34 PM
This kind of thing only happens Once in a Lifetime.

Same as it ever was.


I for one think this is a terrible move, as I have not yet heard Grande exclaim "Manos de Oro" after Castro managed to bravely nab a slow grounder hit right towards him.
And I was so looking forward to celebrating his first hit of the year. Now, I guess he will have to do it with another team.

pedro
04-21-2008, 04:34 PM
Baker loves him some sucky players (see: Perez, Nefi).

Luckily, Castro wasn't one of HIS sucky players.

In Dusty's defense he wasn't the GM and Perez was the arguably best SS the Cubs had.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2008, 04:34 PM
The next move should be shipping one of Freel/Hopper out and bringing up Jay Bruce to be the everyday CFer.

Guacarock
04-21-2008, 04:35 PM
This kind of thing only happens Once in a Lifetime.

Into the blue again...

pedro
04-21-2008, 04:35 PM
This kind of thing only happens Once in a Lifetime.


That's Life During Wartime.

BRM
04-21-2008, 04:37 PM
I had to check the calendar to make sure it wasn't April Fool's. I believe this calls for a celebratory beverage or two tonight.

:beerme:

RedsManRick
04-21-2008, 04:38 PM
Baker loves him some sucky players (see: Perez, Nefi).

Luckily, Castro wasn't one of HIS sucky players.

Baker loves guys who he can peg in to an archetype, sucky or not. The only archetype for Castro was former-glove-only-guy-who-doesn't-even-have-that-anymore. Even Dusty can do that math.

edabbs44
04-21-2008, 04:38 PM
Wow... just about 15 mins ago I wondered out loud if today would be the day Castro was released. I need to do that more often.

I hope that's the last time you wonder that. If you wonder it again, that means that he would have to be reacquired.

cincyinco
04-21-2008, 04:39 PM
Wow... just about 15 mins ago I wondered out loud if today would be the day Castro was released. I need to do that more often.

You should do it in reverse too...

Like "I wonder if today is the day Wayne krivsky wrangles Matt Cain from the giants for peanuts..."

Feel free to insert name of any other player you like! Maybe the mets would offer is Johan santana while picking up 80 percent of his salary if only you would try to will it more often!

Caveat Emperor
04-21-2008, 04:40 PM
IF Ross comes back this week then Javier needs to go.

Votto's claim to the 1b job has allowed Hatteberg to become the team's 1st LH-PH off the bench.

That pretty much eliminates the need to carry Javy, as far as I'm concerned.

BRM
04-21-2008, 04:41 PM
Hopefully we can retain Castro as an instructor -- I can't imagine he's going to catch on anywhere.

I can agree with that.

Chip R
04-21-2008, 04:41 PM
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/redsinsider/ :beerme:

I wonder if everyone in the press box is going to be wearing black armbands tonight.

Tom Servo
04-21-2008, 04:42 PM
And you may find yourself, releasing a bad shortstop
And you may find yourself, eating his million dollar contract
And you may find yourself, behind the wheel of a large baseball organization

mbgrayson
04-21-2008, 04:43 PM
Good luck Juan! It always seemed like you were a good guy, and I wish you luck in your career. Hopefully you were careful with your money....

We would be willing to write you a reference for the Cards, the Astros, the Cubs or anyone else....Good luck!

Cyclone792
04-21-2008, 04:44 PM
I think I might have to not only have a celebratory beer when I get home, but I might also have to dance a celebratory jig when I get home!

fearofpopvol1
04-21-2008, 04:44 PM
Hairston isn't exactly great, but he is an upgrade over Castro and has at least been tearing it up in 3a. It's a marginal upgrade, but an upgrade no less.

I am also curious about Ross. I would have to think that Coffey is the odd man out, but I'd really like to see Bray get up here. I just don't know at this juncture how that would work unless the Reds punt Fogg, and I'm just not envisioning that happening.

Reds Fanatic
04-21-2008, 04:45 PM
Good luck Juan! It always seemed like you were a good guy, and I wish you luck in your career. Hopefully you were careful with your money....

We would be willing to write you a reference for the Cards, the Astros, the Cubs or anyone else....Good luck!
Well he is a former Red now so I know at least one team that might be interested.

lollipopcurve
04-21-2008, 04:48 PM
Going to make life easy for redszone

RFS62
04-21-2008, 04:50 PM
It appears we now have a "whipping boy" position open.

BuckeyeRedleg
04-21-2008, 04:51 PM
Good news. I guess I wonder why Castro made the team in the first place coming out of Spring Training? What has Wayne seen in these first three weeks that he didn't already know regarding Castro?

The only explanation I can think of is that he wasn't sure how Kepp would handle the SS duties fulltime and once he proved he could handle it, that was all he needed to let Castro go.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2008, 04:51 PM
It appears we now have a "whipping boy" position open.

Hello Corey Patterson.

(and he deserves it);)

CrackerJack
04-21-2008, 04:52 PM
I can't believe this is a sticky.

Somewhere George Grande is shedding a tear at the thought of no longer watching Oro scamper around the basepaths...2-3 times a year.

BRM
04-21-2008, 04:52 PM
Hello Corey Patterson.

(and he deserves it);)

I don't know. I was thinking Javy Valentin.

BuckeyeRedleg
04-21-2008, 04:52 PM
It appears we now have a "whipping boy" position open.

Step right up Ryan Freel and Norris Hopper.

Benihana
04-21-2008, 04:53 PM
It appears we now have a "whipping boy" position open.

Corey Patterson, come on down!

(And for the record, I like Corey)

nate
04-21-2008, 04:53 PM
Wow... I was right.

me... wow... imagine that they called up Jerry Hairston.. not David Byrne, not Tina Weymoth not even Jonathon Richmond.. but Jerry Hairston.

Crazy

Bernie Worrell will get the call when he comes off the DL.

Benihana
04-21-2008, 04:53 PM
Step right up Ryan Freel and Norris Hopper.

Hopefully they'll be the next to go.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2008, 04:55 PM
Sound the trumpets!!! Release the doves!!!!!

http://katnagel.typepad.com/photos/tpc_choir_tour/choir22004.jpg

BuckeyeRedleg
04-21-2008, 04:56 PM
Hopefully they'll be the next to go.

At least one of them needs to go yesterday.

flyer85
04-21-2008, 04:57 PM
castro has been the invisible man ... it was only a matter of time. Not sure that Hairston really solves the RHB off the bench issue, but then I don't think anyone in AAA really would.

BRM
04-21-2008, 04:59 PM
WMR plans to hang his Juan Castro jersey on the wall to remember the glory days.

Hap
04-21-2008, 04:59 PM
I can't wait to hear George Grande crying about it.

pedro
04-21-2008, 05:02 PM
And you may find yourself, releasing a bad shortstop
And you may find yourself, eating his million dollar contract
And you may find yourself, behind the wheel of a large baseball organization

nice work

Always Red
04-21-2008, 05:03 PM
castro has been the invisible man ... it was only a matter of time. Not sure that Hairston really solves the RHB off the bench issue, but then I don't think anyone in AAA really would.

I'm not sure this solves much of anything, because Dusty wasn't using Castro anyway; if anything, it gives him a spare part. It's hard for me to get excited about Jerry Hairston.

It needed to be done, and like flyer said, it was only a matter of time, but IMO this doesn't solve any of the real problems of this team.

pedro
04-21-2008, 05:04 PM
Good news. I guess I wonder why Castro made the team in the first place coming out of Spring Training? What has Wayne seen in these first three weeks that he didn't already know regarding Castro?

The only explanation I can think of is that he wasn't sure how Kepp would handle the SS duties fulltime and once he proved he could handle it, that was all he needed to let Castro go.

Hairston has horrible career numbers. I think Wayne wanted him to prove in AAA that ST wasn't a complete mirage.

TMBS, I wouldn't expect much out of Hairston.

klw
04-21-2008, 05:06 PM
Wow... I was right.

me... wow... imagine that they called up Jerry Hairston.. not David Byrne, not Tina Weymoth not even Jonathon Richmond.. but Jerry Hairston.

Crazy

Stop Making Sense!

Roy Tucker
04-21-2008, 05:09 PM
Paul Daugherty talked to AAA Bats manager Rick Sweet on the radio Friday who was highly complementary of Hairston. He said this is the first time Hairston has been healthy in a couple years.

flyer85
04-21-2008, 05:12 PM
TMBS, I wouldn't expect much out of Hairston.somewhat Freel-like with less speed. Now the Reds have a triplicate.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2008, 05:15 PM
Hairston may suck...Castro sucked worse.

coachw513
04-21-2008, 05:16 PM
nm

919191
04-21-2008, 05:19 PM
Can Hairston bat second?:)

flyer85
04-21-2008, 05:21 PM
Giants DFA Rajai Davis ... he and his good BB rate is likely a better answer in CF than any of the Hopper/Freel/Patterson triumvirate.

RedsManRick
04-21-2008, 05:21 PM
Hairston looks a lot like Jeff Keppinger with less contact...

remdog
04-21-2008, 05:22 PM
Sad to see Jaunito go. He may never get another chance to put 'hit by pitch' on his resume. :p:

Rem

remdog
04-21-2008, 05:24 PM
BTW, I could never understand how Juan kept a job with the Dodgers. Then it turned out that he couldn't 'cause they traded him to my beloved Reds. Curse 'Dodger Blue'! :eek:

Rem

Spring~Fields
04-21-2008, 05:27 PM
castro has been the invisible man ... it was only a matter of time. Not sure that Hairston really solves the RHB off the bench issue, but then I don't think anyone in AAA really would.

You made me stop, think and realize with your post.

Castro was the "invisible man" and now Hairston takes over that role. If he doesn’t take that role then who will he be taking playing time and Abs away from? (Keppinger, Votto, Encarcion, Phillips?)

Surely Dusty will be wanting to get Hairston some playing time so who sits, and if he doesn’t get Hairston playing time then his timing and hitting will regress, of course we expect that. I don’t know that the Reds have done anything except take one yard sale item out of the closet to replace it with another yard sale item.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=3966

pedro
04-21-2008, 05:28 PM
The really interesting thing about this is that Hairston is 32 and has played exactly 6 games in the majors leagues at SS.

flyer85
04-21-2008, 05:31 PM
Surely Dusty will be wanting to get Hairston some playing time so who sitsthe large majority of his career has been spent playing either 2b or CF. hard to see him getting ABs in 2B, welcome to CF(it's why I posted we now have RHB CF in triplicate). I expect he will mainly be limited to PH appearances. I would hope he is a short term bridge to something more productive.

WMR
04-21-2008, 05:32 PM
Praise Jesus.

REDREAD
04-21-2008, 05:32 PM
http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/redsinsider/ :beerme:

I wonder if everyone in the press box is going to be wearing black armbands tonight.

:lol:

Marty has no reason to buy a ticket to see the team anymore.

(Recall Marty constantly saying "I'd pay money to watch Castro play defense". He said that as recently as last season).

I will have to listen tonight to hear Marty's reaction to the sad news.
I wonder if Marty will claim that poor Castro was the misguided scapegoat of the teams' poor start and someone else should have been cut instead. :lol:

REDREAD
04-21-2008, 05:34 PM
It appears we now have a "whipping boy" position open.

Fogg and Patterson have applied for the opening. :lol:

flyer85
04-21-2008, 05:34 PM
Recall Marty constantly saying "I'd pay money to watch Castro play defense".I guess you could say Juan was a pickin' and Marty was a grinnin'.

SirFelixCat
04-21-2008, 05:35 PM
Castro had his moments. No doubt that he needed to go as he wasn't helping the Reds in any way, but I remember his walk-off HR last year...squirrel, nut, yeah yeah, but still, he helped the Reds in the past. I'm glad he is helping the Reds now by not being on the roster.

I nominate Patterson for whipping boy. He's holding Bruce back now....

flyer85
04-21-2008, 05:37 PM
I nominate Patterson for whipping boy. He's holding Bruce back now....then be mad at Wayne, Corey is just being Corey.

Vada Pinson Fan
04-21-2008, 05:37 PM
Glad the dead wood that is Juan Castro is now a former Red (for the 2nd time). Even with the Hairston call-up the Reds bench is still weak; primarily lacking right-handed power. There have been rumors of interest in Mike Piazza. I wonder, what, if anything, Frank Thomas could add as a late inning pinch-hitting threat? Sure, right now Thomas is hitting under .200 but if he knew his role and joined old pal Griffey, it may rejuvenate FT and his bat. Toronto signed Thomas to a two-year, $18-million contract in November 2006. The deal includes a $10 million option for 2009, but only if Thomas makes 376 plate appearances this season. So the Reds pay him minimum this year and are not obligated for further payment because no way can he qualify for the 2009 option needing 376 PA's this year. So we rent a right-handed bat for 1 year. Very few options out there to improve the Reds bench.

KoryMac5
04-21-2008, 05:40 PM
This move may actually change RedsZone as we know it, a new era has started.

Joseph
04-21-2008, 05:41 PM
Juan Castro hit a game winning home run on Cinco De Mayo a few years back [04 maybe?] when I was there. I'll keep that memory of him at least. :)

klw
04-21-2008, 05:45 PM
It appears we now have a "whipping boy" position open.

No because Coffey is still here taking abuse.

HumnHilghtFreel
04-21-2008, 05:46 PM
What the hell am I supposed to complain about now?! ;)

Spring~Fields
04-21-2008, 05:51 PM
I nominate Patterson for whipping boy. He's holding Bruce back now....

It is as flyer said, Hairston has played most of his games at 2b, CF and LF, so both Patterson and Hairston can be in the way of Bruce now along with Hopper and Freel. Guess I could be wrong in thinking that today Bruce is better than all five of them.

BRM
04-21-2008, 05:51 PM
Here's what Wayne had to say about the move.

Per Fay's blog:



Reds GM Wayne Krivsky said Castro was informed at about 2:35 p.m. today.

“That was really difficult. He makes any team better that he’s on. It’s not a good day when you have to tell him you’re making a change,” Krivsky said. “Hopefully we can find him something in the Major Leagues and go forward, but I can’t say enough about him as a person, as a man and as a teammate. I just think the world of the guy.”

“Hairston’s been playing really well, hitting .420. We decided to bring him up here, and he gives us a little more versatility from the standpoint that he can play the infield and the outfield, and he can run. He’s swinging a hot bat right now, so there he is," Krivsky said. "Good day for Jerry, and tough day when you have to tell Juan Castro goodbye for now.”

Raisor
04-21-2008, 05:53 PM
I feel a Juan Castro size hole in my soul.

Strikes Out Looking
04-21-2008, 05:53 PM
Stop Making Sense!

Juan's career seems to be on the Road to Nowhere. I just hope he isn't too upset with the move and becomes a Psyco Killer.

Chip R
04-21-2008, 05:54 PM
“That was really difficult. He makes any team better that he’s on. It’s not a good day when you have to tell him you’re making a change,” Krivsky said.


Then we must have a helluva team if we're releasing him.

Reds Freak
04-21-2008, 05:55 PM
If you notice in the quote, Wayne is only telling Juan good bye "for now". What's that supposed to mean? Hopefully, as others have said, it means he sticks around somewhere in the organization as an instructor if he wishes...

Raisor
04-21-2008, 05:55 PM
Krivsky said. "Good day for Jerry, and tough day when you have to tell Juan Castro goodbye for now.”

He's already trying to figure out how to bring him back!

OldRightHander
04-21-2008, 06:00 PM
Well, I'm glad he's gone as a player. There was a time when his defense was better and he actually found an acorn at times, but those times are gone. So while I'm glad he's gone, I'm not what you would call jubilant because I've always had some respect for him as a person, baseball ability aside. I wish the best for him. If the team could find an off the field job for him that he would be happy with, that would be great.

MrCinatit
04-21-2008, 06:03 PM
He's already trying to figure out how to bring him back!

Castro passes through waivers, is sent to Louisville and is called up in late May.

reds44
04-21-2008, 06:06 PM
It's a miracle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In all honestly, it was a move that needed to be made. I'd love to see Juan stay in the organization as a coach. Definatley a great guy, but like I said this needed to happen.

Spring~Fields
04-21-2008, 06:08 PM
Castro passes through waivers, is sent to Louisville and is called up in late May.

Never thought of that in my jubilation, he could be down there blocking the way of younger promising players.

Kc61
04-21-2008, 06:15 PM
Hairston may suck...Castro sucked worse.


No problem with this move. It was time for Castro to depart.

But he hardly ever played and only had 10 at bats. 8-11 was not his doing.

So now people need someone else to blame for all the ills of the world. . . .

reds44
04-21-2008, 06:16 PM
Jerry Hairston Jr. is a better (or less bad) baseball player than Juan Castro.

That is really all that needs to be said.

Matt700wlw
04-21-2008, 06:17 PM
The only thing that he effected was the fact that when it came down to needeing the bench, he was an option.

He is no longer an option. I am with other on here who would like to see him stick around in a coaching/instructor role. I think he'd be VERY good at that.

dfs
04-21-2008, 06:19 PM
How many multi-position "not good enough with the glove to be in the infield, but not good enough with the bat to be in the outfield" guys does that make now?
Freel, Hopper, Hairston. ....I mean, versatility is great and all, but there is something to be said for having guys on your bench that really do something well.

At least Hopper can bunt.

pay no attention to me. Juan Castro has been released and here I am complaining. never mind.

Sea Ray
04-21-2008, 06:23 PM
8-11 was not his doing.


8-11???

MrCinatit
04-21-2008, 06:28 PM
8-11???

The Reds' present record.

gm
04-21-2008, 06:28 PM
So...who plays SS when Keppinger needs a blow, until AGon is back? (surely not Hairston or Freel) Are they considering sliding Phillips over?

Two more memories of JuanGone...a GW hit to RF against the Yankees...Castro's momentum-shifting HR that preceeded Dunn's GW grand slam vs C-town

reds44
04-21-2008, 06:33 PM
Hairston.

REDREAD
04-21-2008, 06:34 PM
Krivsky said. "Good day for Jerry, and tough day when you have to tell Juan Castro goodbye for now. ” :

Thank goodness Wayne is leaving the door open to resign Castro next year :lol:

REDREAD
04-21-2008, 06:37 PM
How many multi-position "not good enough with the glove to be in the infield, but not good enough with the bat to be in the outfield" guys does that make now?
Freel, Hopper, Hairston. ....I mean, versatility is great and all, but there is something to be said for having guys on your bench that really do something well.
.

Great point. Ideally you want a bench player to do one thing well..Even if it's just pinch running or fielding. The Reds load up on guys that really don't do anything that well, with the exception of Hat, who can at least hit acceptably.

gm
04-21-2008, 07:06 PM
Hairston.

Really?


The really interesting thing about this is that Hairston is 32 and has played exactly 6 games in the majors leagues at SS.

If that's the case, the Red's SS defense is in the worst hands since...Lopez?

Kc61
04-21-2008, 07:09 PM
Let's hope Keppinger stays healthy to play SS.

So, Castro is gone. But David Ross is due back very soon.

Who's next? Will they keep three catchers? Bako has been good.

Javy? Hatteberg? Hopper?

flyer85
04-21-2008, 07:13 PM
Bako has been good.but we know he is not. Then again Javy isn't either.

3 catchers is really dumb ... but them again I don't expect that to stop them.

gm
04-21-2008, 07:15 PM
Let's hope Keppinger stays healthy to play SS.

So, Castro is gone. But David Ross is due back very soon.

Who's next? Will they keep three catchers? Bako has been good.

Javy? Hatteberg? Hopper?

I suspect WK has been trying to deal Freel and Hatteberg since March, but he's not getting any (legit) offers. If Hatte is dealt, Javy still has the LH ph role

and Keppinger can't play every inning at SS 'til June...Paul Janish could be an option at some point...

WVRedsFan
04-21-2008, 07:32 PM
"Good day for Jerry, and tough day when you have to tell Juan Castro goodbye for now.”

This begs the question (that some have answered) why was it so tough to say goodbye to Juan? What has he done to make this team better? Why "for now?" What on God's green earth does WK see in him?

It makes no sense. Ah heck. Another million down the drain for a player who no one else will ever want. So, like posted earlier, he'll pass through waivers, be sent to the minors where he will keep some younger player of worth from playing only to be called up the first chance WK has to get him up here. And for what?

*BaseClogger*
04-21-2008, 07:32 PM
Giants DFA Rajai Davis ... he and his good BB rate is likely a better answer in CF than any of the Hopper/Freel/Patterson triumvirate.

:thumbup:

WVRedsFan
04-21-2008, 07:34 PM
I suspect WK has been trying to deal Freel and Hatteberg since March, but he's not getting any (legit) offers. If Hatte is dealt, Javy still has the LH ph role

and Keppinger can't play every inning at SS 'til June...Paul Janish could be an option at some point...

I do too. We have so many players no one else even sniffs at. Castro, Freel, Hatteberg, Patterson, Mercker, Hopper,etc. All but Mercker got nice contracts and makes them almost impossible to move. Wow, that's just wonderful.

Unassisted
04-21-2008, 07:34 PM
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pedro
04-21-2008, 07:50 PM
If that's the case, the Red's SS defense is in the worst hands since...Lopez?

I think Keppinger is a better SS than Lopez.

deltachi8
04-21-2008, 07:58 PM
No problem with this move. It was time for Castro to depart.

But he hardly ever played and only had 10 at bats. 8-11 was not his doing.

So now people need someone else to blame for all the ills of the world. . . .


Come on now, plenty blame Adam Dunn....

NC Reds
04-21-2008, 07:59 PM
"Ode to Joy" is playing in my head.

Far East
04-21-2008, 08:05 PM
Like Marty, I'd pay to watch Castro play defense.

But he'd have to pay me to watch him bat.:)

Seriously, the man had quick and accurate eye-hand coordination, making bad hops look easy.

For example, this March, during one ST batting practice, an errant throw came skipping toward the on deck circle, covered by a tarp of some kind. Castro barely had time at the last second to catch a glimpse of the ball speeding at him, then (seemingly) effortlessly snagged it bare-handed, despite the fact that the ball took one kind of skip on the grass then an extremely different wicked hop hitting off the tarp surface. Spectators left and right of me could do nothing but shake our heads in amazement.

Manos de oro for certain!

NC Reds
04-21-2008, 08:05 PM
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:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

corkedbat
04-21-2008, 08:49 PM
This kind of thing only happens Once in a Lifetime.

I believe that this is third time for this particular "Once in a Lifetime." event. Never say never again. (But I do believe it's the Twimkies turn to do a stint for a while) :evil:

gm
04-21-2008, 08:51 PM
I think Keppinger is a better SS than Lopez.

Jeff's more steady, for sure. But let's face it, Kepp has to bust his tail just to be average at that position. Currently there's not an above-average defensive SS on the active roster who's not named Phillips

pedro
04-21-2008, 08:53 PM
Jeff's more steady, for sure. But let's face it, Kepp has to bust his tail just to be average at that position. Currently there's not an above-average defensive SS on the active roster who's not named Phillips

I think it comes down to more than athleticism.

Keppinger just seems to have his head in the game all the time.

Lopez? Not so much.

Tony Cloninger
04-21-2008, 08:55 PM
From John Fay....Is Wayne kidding....good grief his comments are beyond pitiful and scary. Especially the last quote!

Today the contract of IF/OF Jerry Hairson Jr. was selected from Class AAA Louisville and IF Juan Castro was designated for assignment.

Reds GM Wayne Krivsky said Castro was informed at about 2:35 p.m. today.

“That was really difficult. He makes any team better that he’s on. It’s not a good day when you have to tell him you’re making a change,” Krivsky said. “Hopefully we can find him something in the Major Leagues and go forward, but I can’t say enough about him as a person, as a man and as a teammate. I just think the world of the guy.”

Castro made two starts, both at SS (April 7 vs. Philadelphia and Sunday at Pittsburgh). Last season he appeared in 54 games, including 18 starts (11 at SS, 5 at 3B and 2 at 2B).

Hairston, who will wear No. 15, hit .421 in Louisville in 14 games. He had seven doubles, two triples, three homers, 15 RBI and one stolen base.

“Hairston’s been playing really well, hitting .420. We decided to bring him up here, and he gives us a little more versatility from the standpoint that he can play the infield and the outfield, and he can run. He’s swinging a hot bat right now, so there he is," Krivsky said. "Good day for Jerry, and tough day when you have to tell Juan Castro goodbye for now.”

redsrule2500
04-21-2008, 08:59 PM
So did Wayne start reading redszone or what? :D

redsrule2500
04-21-2008, 09:02 PM
From John Fay....Is Wayne kidding....good grief his comments are beyond pitiful and scary. Especially the last quote!
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Meh, he's just being a nice guy about the situation. I don't see anything wrong with what he said.

Tony Cloninger
04-21-2008, 09:05 PM
Wait until he brings him back.. RR2500! :D

vaticanplum
04-21-2008, 09:18 PM
Well, there is a small part of me that does mourn the loss of Juan Castro, because the good-looking quotient of the Reds decreases with his departure. There, I said it.

If this is paradise, I wish I had a lawnmower.

jojo
04-21-2008, 09:35 PM
From John Fay....Is Wayne kidding....good grief his comments are beyond pitiful and scary. Especially the last quote!

Today the contract of IF/OF Jerry Hairson Jr. was selected from Class AAA Louisville and IF Juan Castro was designated for assignment.

Reds GM Wayne Krivsky said Castro was informed at about 2:35 p.m. today.

“That was really difficult. He makes any team better that he’s on. It’s not a good day when you have to tell him you’re making a change,” Krivsky said. “Hopefully we can find him something in the Major Leagues and go forward, but I can’t say enough about him as a person, as a man and as a teammate. I just think the world of the guy.”

Castro made two starts, both at SS (April 7 vs. Philadelphia and Sunday at Pittsburgh). Last season he appeared in 54 games, including 18 starts (11 at SS, 5 at 3B and 2 at 2B).

Hairston, who will wear No. 15, hit .421 in Louisville in 14 games. He had seven doubles, two triples, three homers, 15 RBI and one stolen base.

“Hairston’s been playing really well, hitting .420. We decided to bring him up here, and he gives us a little more versatility from the standpoint that he can play the infield and the outfield, and he can run. He’s swinging a hot bat right now, so there he is," Krivsky said. "Good day for Jerry, and tough day when you have to tell Juan Castro goodbye for now.”

This is very likely the end of Castro's professional career as a ballplayer. What Krivsky said was very classy.

Highlifeman21
04-21-2008, 10:14 PM
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That is phenomenal.

Words escape me.

I'm beside myself in jubilee!

savafan
04-21-2008, 10:42 PM
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I tried to buy one, but apparently the shirts no longer have the range to move into my shopping cart.

KronoRed
04-21-2008, 10:45 PM
It's a great day to be a Reds fan, sure we have Hairston who is just as bad as Castro and sure the Dodgers are beating the Reds like Paul Wilson is out there..but the symbol of the early decade Reds teams is no longer here.

WOo.

4256 Hits
04-21-2008, 11:12 PM
Comending Wayne on releasing Castro is like comending someone for who stopped hitting themself with a hammer; you should have never started doing either one!

Sea Ray
04-22-2008, 12:03 AM
I think it comes down to more than athleticism.

Keppinger just seems to have his head in the game all the time.

Lopez? Not so much.

Thom noted at the beginning of today's game that Kepp is the only SS in the league to not have an error this year. That's commendable. Like Votto, I think Kepp has gotten a bad rap defensively. The same could be said about Bret Boone at the time we acquired him. I'm very comfortable with Kepp at SS. That's not one of the numerous holes on this team

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2008, 12:09 AM
Thom noted at the beginning of today's game that Kepp is the only SS in the league to not have an error this year. That's commendable. Like Votto, I think Kepp has gotten a bad rap defensively. The same could be said about Bret Boone at the time we acquired him. I'm very comfortable with Kepp at SS. That's not one of the numerous holes on this team

Kepp makes all the plays that are hit to him but his range at SS is very, very average. But I prefer his bat and limited range to the other options at SS.

Sea Ray
04-22-2008, 12:16 AM
Kepp makes all the plays that are hit to him but his range at SS is very, very average. But I prefer his bat and limited range to the other options at SS.

I agree with everything you wrote above. If his range is average but his errors are below avg then in sum total you're ahead of the curve defensively. Even if we decide his range is below average, his lack of errors bring his total defense up to average.

I don't think there's any debating the fact that his offense is above avg for a SS, so that combined with even avg Defense, he grades out above avg overall. Offensively I like him as well as any SS in the league today.

REDREAD
04-22-2008, 12:21 AM
Did anyone catch Marty's tribute at the start of the game?

Marty said " Castro had an amazing personally and adept skills which will solely be missed by this organization " :lol: I think it ruined Marty's entire season. :lol:

Big Klu
04-22-2008, 01:18 AM
I think some people here are taking just a little too much enjoyment from this. It is never funny or a cause for celebration when someone loses a job, especially someone who is respected and well-liked by his peers. Juan Castro is a decent person, a good teammate, and a better ballplayer than any of us could hope to be. Was it time for him to go? Likely, yes. Does this player move make the club better? Probably. But to take perverse pleasure in belittling him and poking fun at Wayne and Marty because they aren't throwing him under a bus is petty.

Juan wore the Reds uniform with class. I hope he will return to the organization in some capacity after his playing career is over, whenever that may be. I think he would be an outstanding coach, especially in the minors, where he could be a very positive influence on young players of all cultural backgrounds, and particularly to Latino players who may be struggling with the language barrier and the culture shock of playing in the USA for the first time.

savafan
04-22-2008, 01:50 AM
I think some people here are taking just a little too much enjoyment from this. It is never funny or a cause for celebration when someone loses a job, especially someone who is respected and well-liked by his peers. Juan Castro is a decent person, a good teammate, and a better ballplayer than any of us could hope to be. Was it time for him to go? Likely, yes. Does this player move make the club better? Probably. But to take perverse pleasure in belittling him and poking fun at Wayne and Marty because they aren't throwing him under a bus is petty.

Juan wore the Reds uniform with class. I hope he will return to the organization in some capacity after his playing career is over, whenever that may be. I think he would be an outstanding coach, especially in the minors, where he could be a very positive influence on young players of all cultural backgrounds, and particularly to Latino players who may be struggling with the language barrier and the culture shock of playing in the USA for the first time.

:clap:

Reds1
04-22-2008, 01:50 AM
My birthday is next Sat. I guess I got an early present. Who knows he'll probably accept an assignment to AAA and be back. :) sorry! Off to Disneyworld tomorrow. I'll be in Reds withdrawl when I'm back. Hopefully my leaving will cause a great winning streak! We can sure use one!

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2008, 01:58 AM
I think some people here are taking just a little too much enjoyment from this. It is never funny or a cause for celebration when someone loses a job, especially someone who is respected and well-liked by his peers. Juan Castro is a decent person, a good teammate, and a better ballplayer than any of us could hope to be. Was it time for him to go? Likely, yes. Does this player move make the club better? Probably. But to take perverse pleasure in belittling him and poking fun at Wayne and Marty because they aren't throwing him under a bus is petty.

Juan wore the Reds uniform with class. I hope he will return to the organization in some capacity after his playing career is over, whenever that may be. I think he would be an outstanding coach, especially in the minors, where he could be a very positive influence on young players of all cultural backgrounds, and particularly to Latino players who may be struggling with the language barrier and the culture shock of playing in the USA for the first time.

Good post. I didn't like him as a player but you can tell that he is a great guy and loved by his teammates. And I agree with you about him being an outstanding coach - I hope he's brought back when he decides his playing career is over.

cincinnati chili
04-22-2008, 03:09 AM
I think some people here are taking just a little too much enjoyment from this . . . to take perverse pleasure in belittling him.

That pretty much describes me. A pervert wallowing in the misfortune of others.

I'm wide awake, but these memories... these memories of Juan being released can't wait. [the Living Colour version was better, btw]

mth123
04-22-2008, 05:23 AM
I don't want to pile on Castro. Big Klu's post is right on. But, Hairston is a much better fit on the roster right now and hopefully the Reds can ride him while he's hot. Long Term, I'm skeptical that Hairston will be some one we want to keep around, but his last two seasons were plagued by an undetected injury (a broken rib in his back that healed incorrectly) so maybe now that he's healthy he'll prove better than his stats show. Meanwhile, the Reds still possess an abundance of 11th and 12th pitchers and 25th man types (Hairston included). Hopefully some of the glut can be converted to a better "long-term" solution. I wouldn't stop looking just because Hairston is here, that's for sure.

Big Klu
04-22-2008, 07:47 AM
A bit of trivia regarding Hairston:

Jerry Hairston, Jr. becomes the fourth third-generation player to play for the Reds, following Bret Boone, Aaron Boone, and Mike Bell. There have been only six third-generation players so far in MLB--the only ones who have not played for the Reds are David Bell, and Jerry's brother Scott Hairston.

Jerry's father, Jerry Hairston, Sr., was an outfielder who played 14 seasons with the Chicago White Sox. His grandfather, Sam Hairston, was a catcher who played 4 games with the White Sox in 1951.

deltachi8
04-22-2008, 08:33 AM
I think some people here are taking just a little too much enjoyment from this. It is never funny or a cause for celebration when someone loses a job, especially someone who is respected and well-liked by his peers. Juan Castro is a decent person, a good teammate, and a better ballplayer than any of us could hope to be. Was it time for him to go? Likely, yes. Does this player move make the club better? Probably. But to take perverse pleasure in belittling him and poking fun at Wayne and Marty because they aren't throwing him under a bus is petty.

Juan wore the Reds uniform with class. I hope he will return to the organization in some capacity after his playing career is over, whenever that may be. I think he would be an outstanding coach, especially in the minors, where he could be a very positive influence on young players of all cultural backgrounds, and particularly to Latino players who may be struggling with the language barrier and the culture shock of playing in the USA for the first time.

well said. thank you.

REDREAD
04-22-2008, 09:59 AM
I think some people here are taking just a little too much enjoyment from this. It is never funny or a cause for celebration when someone loses a job, especially someone who is respected and well-liked by his peers. Juan Castro is a decent person, a good teammate, and a better ballplayer than any of us could hope to be..

I see your point. I do admit Juan that he remained humble. I remember reading that despite making a MLB salary, he still has a fairly modest house in Mexico.. I think it was a 100k house and still lives like a normal guy in the offseason. Probably a great person.

At the same time, thanks to the Reds, he's made millions of dollars. I'm sure Juan will be the first to tell you that he was very fortunate that the Reds were desperate for someone that could backup Larkin at SS after trying guys that could not field the position. I remember when Bowden offered Juan his first long term contract. Juan's response was literally "Where do I sign?" and he was genuinely surpised and greatful.

A great guy, but the game has treated him extremely well. Many guys in baseball history have had similiar skill sets and were unable to hang on for even one full season. So, while I'm sure Castro is a great guy, it's kind of hard to feel sorry for him. I have more sympathy for a guy like Maj who is trying very hard but will probably never make it back to the show and never cash in big.

REDREAD
04-22-2008, 10:03 AM
Good post. I didn't like him as a player but you can tell that he is a great guy and loved by his teammates. And I agree with you about him being an outstanding coach - I hope he's brought back when he decides his playing career is over.

While I'm sure Castro is a great guy, I'm not so sure he would make a good coach. Wayne said that one of the reasons he traded for Juan was to help EdE with fielding. While it's certainly not Juan's fault that EdE is still a poor fielder, it's hard to credit Juan with actually helping him. Perhaps EdE is not coachable. I realize it's only one data point, but since we only have a limited number of coaching spots, we can't bring back every nice guy as a coach.

jojo
04-22-2008, 10:05 AM
I kind of think the point is though at what time do we as fans quit piling on a guy and congratulate him for achieving a career so few accomplish? He's done it the right way and maybe at the end of such a guy's career, it's time to bite our tongues and clap a little.

cumberlandreds
04-22-2008, 10:16 AM
A bit of trivia regarding Hairston:

Jerry Hairston, Jr. becomes the fourth third-generation player to play for the Reds, following Bret Boone, Aaron Boone, and Mike Bell. There have been only six third-generation players so far in MLB--the only ones who have not played for the Reds are David Bell, and Jerry's brother Scott Hairston.

Jerry's father, Jerry Hairston, Sr., was an outfielder who played 14 seasons with the Chicago White Sox. His grandfather, Sam Hairston, was a catcher who played 4 games with the White Sox in 1951.

Doesn't Hairston have a brother that played/plays in the majors? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else?
Very good post Klu about Castro.:thumbup: His time may have come and gone but by all accounts he was a great team player that helped the young guys out. If he doesn't catch on somewhere else I hope the Reds find room for him as a coach either in the Majors or Minors.

westofyou
04-22-2008, 10:19 AM
Doesn't Hairston have a brother that played/plays in the majors? Maybe I'm thinking of someone else?
Very good post Klu about Castro.:thumbup: His time may have come and gone but by all accounts he was a great team player that helped the young guys out. If he doesn't catch on somewhere else I hope the Reds find room for him as a coach either in the Majors or Minors.

Scott is on the Padres.

And yes the glee is overboard... but paradigm shifts often cause giddy reactions.

mbgrayson
04-22-2008, 10:34 AM
Jerry Hairston Jr. is your current batting leader in the International League (http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=l_bat&lid=117). His current line is .421/.450/.721 for an OPS of 1.222. Certainly this is due to small sample size....at least to some degree.

However, Hairston has hit 3 HRs, 7 doubles, and 2 triples in 57 ABs in Louisville this year. Castro hasn't hit 3 or more HRs in a single season since 2005 in Minnesota, when he hit 5 HRs in 272 ABs. Hairston will be a significant improvement in hitting off the bench, even though there is no way he can continue at the pace he was on in Louisville.

jojo
04-22-2008, 10:43 AM
but paradigm shifts often cause giddy reactions.

You do realize that they are dumping Castro to promote Hairston????? :cool:

nate
04-22-2008, 10:43 AM
I think some people here are taking just a little too much enjoyment from this. It is never funny or a cause for celebration when someone loses a job, especially someone who is respected and well-liked by his peers. Juan Castro is a decent person, a good teammate, and a better ballplayer than any of us could hope to be. Was it time for him to go? Likely, yes. Does this player move make the club better? Probably. But to take perverse pleasure in belittling him and poking fun at Wayne and Marty because they aren't throwing him under a bus is petty.

Juan wore the Reds uniform with class. I hope he will return to the organization in some capacity after his playing career is over, whenever that may be. I think he would be an outstanding coach, especially in the minors, where he could be a very positive influence on young players of all cultural backgrounds, and particularly to Latino players who may be struggling with the language barrier and the culture shock of playing in the USA for the first time.

Very nicely done. :thumbup:

cumberlandreds
04-22-2008, 10:58 AM
Scott is on the Padres.

And yes the glee is overboard... but paradigm shifts often cause giddy reactions.


Thanks, I thought he had brother playing somewhere. :)

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2008, 11:40 AM
While I'm sure Castro is a great guy, I'm not so sure he would make a good coach. Wayne said that one of the reasons he traded for Juan was to help EdE with fielding. While it's certainly not Juan's fault that EdE is still a poor fielder, it's hard to credit Juan with actually helping him. Perhaps EdE is not coachable. I realize it's only one data point, but since we only have a limited number of coaching spots, we can't bring back every nice guy as a coach.

I didn't say bring him back as a major league coach. Guys who retire often start out as a minor league instructor or coach, and that's where I'd assign him.

Team Clark
04-22-2008, 11:48 AM
I hope that's the last time you wonder that. If you wonder it again, that means that he would have to be reacquired.


You should do it in reverse too...

Like "I wonder if today is the day Wayne krivsky wrangles Matt Cain from the giants for peanuts..."

Feel free to insert name of any other player you like! Maybe the mets would offer is Johan santana while picking up 80 percent of his salary if only you would try to will it more often!

:D Ok. I just wondered outloud if the Reds will acquire a RH bat for the bench, trade Freel and get an upgrade at Catcher. Also, my lottery picks are......

REDREAD
04-22-2008, 11:48 AM
I didn't say bring him back as a major league coach. Guys who retire often start out as a minor league instructor or coach, and that's where I'd assign him.

That's a good idea. Start him off in the minors and see how he does.
The minor leaguers will probably appreciate having a nice guy like Castro down there after having to endure Oester! and Naehring's "tough guy" style.

Jpup
04-22-2008, 03:01 PM
So...who plays SS when Keppinger needs a blow, until AGon is back? (surely not Hairston or Freel) Are they considering sliding Phillips over?

Two more memories of JuanGone...a GW hit to RF against the Yankees...Castro's momentum-shifting HR that preceeded Dunn's GW grand slam vs C-town

How about Keppinger every day. I am continually surprised that guys can't play every day anymore. I think that should be the plan.

LoganBuck
04-22-2008, 03:55 PM
When I woke up this morning I checked Redszone again to make sure it was still true.

Creamy Goodness.

westofyou
04-22-2008, 04:08 PM
How about Keppinger every day. I am continually surprised that guys can't play every day anymore. I think that should be the plan.

Guys can play every day, however time and time again it has been proven that it's not always the best thing.. just ask the 1969 Cubs.

Jpup
04-22-2008, 04:10 PM
Guys can play every day, however time and time again it has been proven that it's not always the best thing.. just ask the 1969 Cubs.

my point is that it's not wise to just sit a guy for no reason.

deltachi8
04-22-2008, 10:14 PM
my point is that it's not wise to just sit a guy for no reason.

perhaps sitting a guy for no apparent reason is to prevent needing to give a guy a day off when on a more crucial junction of the schedule.

KronoRed
04-23-2008, 12:30 AM
my point is that it's not wise to just sit a guy for no reason.

Days off are good things at the end of the year

gm
04-23-2008, 01:51 AM
And yes the glee is overboard... but paradigm shifts often cause giddy reactions.

This is Juan we're talking about who's leaving, not Fidel

I think WK found out that Coffey stole the "compromising" pictures from Juan...so there was no longer any reason to keep Castro around...Todd will be safe until Javy steals the photos

and finally, Castro has to get picked up by the Cubs...for Marty's sake, and to make Chicago a "much better team";)

Will M
04-23-2008, 05:06 PM
From an LA newspaper:

Former Dodgers shortstop prospect Juan Castro, now a veteran utility man, was designated for assignment by the Cincinnati Reds on Monday and might be getting close to returning to his original organization. Castro can play all four infield positions, which is really two more than the Dodgers' current backup infielder, Chin-lung Hu.

Once Castro clears waivers - something multiple sources said he already has done - the Reds will try to trade him. But they have until the middle of next week to do so, so general manager Wayne Krivsky probably will hold out as long as he can to get the best deal in return.

There is believed to be a handful of clubs interested in Castro, with the Dodgers prominent among them. Castro lives in Glendale, Ariz., where the Dodgers will begin training next spring, and is said to prefer the Dodgers to any of the other teams involved.

Castro is in the second season of a two-year, $2 million contract that pays him $975,000 this year. Any club that trades for him would assume the remainder of that salary, plus the $100,000 buyout on his $1.1 million club option for 2009.

But if the Reds can't trade him before their 10-day window expires May1, they will be forced to release him. At that point, another club could simply sign him for a prorated share of the major-league minimum ($390,000), with the Reds still responsible for the rest.

Hu is the Dodgers' top shortstop prospect and is at a crucial development stage, meaning he would benefit from regular playing time in the minors.

RichRed
04-23-2008, 05:16 PM
There is believed to be a handful of clubs interested in Castro

http://www.megatonik.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/inconceivable-1.jpg

flyer85
04-23-2008, 05:19 PM
There is believed to be a handful of clubs interested in CastroI heard the Mexico City Red Devils have been on the line. :D

Always Red
04-23-2008, 08:40 PM
From an LA newspaper:

Former Dodgers shortstop prospect Juan Castro, now a veteran utility man, was designated for assignment by the Cincinnati Reds on Monday and might be getting close to returning to his original organization. Castro can play all four infield positions, which is really two more than the Dodgers' current backup infielder, Chin-lung Hu.

Once Castro clears waivers - something multiple sources said he already has done - the Reds will try to trade him. But they have until the middle of next week to do so, so general manager Wayne Krivsky probably will hold out as long as he can to get the best deal in return.

There is believed to be a handful of clubs interested in Castro, with the Dodgers prominent among them. Castro lives in Glendale, Ariz., where the Dodgers will begin training next spring, and is said to prefer the Dodgers to any of the other teams involved.

Castro is in the second season of a two-year, $2 million contract that pays him $975,000 this year. Any club that trades for him would assume the remainder of that salary, plus the $100,000 buyout on his $1.1 million club option for 2009.

But if the Reds can't trade him before their 10-day window expires May1, they will be forced to release him. At that point, another club could simply sign him for a prorated share of the major-league minimum ($390,000), with the Reds still responsible for the rest.

Hu is the Dodgers' top shortstop prospect and is at a crucial development stage, meaning he would benefit from regular playing time in the minors.

oh, come on, everyone who ever reads here knows that Castro couldn't play any spot in the infield for your local neighborhood American Legion team. ;)

klw
05-02-2008, 10:44 PM
released, signed with Colorado today

per mlbtraderumors.com


Rockies Sign Juan Castro
FRIDAY: The Rockies win the Castro sweepstakes. Ken Rosenthal notes in a sidebar that the silver lining to the Tulo injury could be Barmes getting a chance to build up trade value. Rosenthal doesn't see the Rox pursuing Brian Roberts for second base help unless they battle their way into contention first.

THURSDAY: Tony Jackson of the L.A. Daily News has been all over the Juan Castro situation. The 35 year-old shortstop became a free agent today, and four clubs are in pursuit. The Dodgers, Padres, Orioles, and Rockies are all after him. Jackson says the Dodgers and Rockies would want him to do a brief Triple A stint. Troy E. Renck confirms Colorado's interest.

The Rockies received devastating news today