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Unassisted
04-22-2008, 02:29 PM
http://charlotte.bizjournals.com/columbus/stories/2008/04/21/daily8.html


Forbes: Reds value pegged at $337M; Indians, $417M

The Cincinnati Reds and Cleveland Indians are worth upward of $300 million, according to a new Forbes magazine ranking, but that's not anywhere near top-of-the-line for Major League Baseball.
The Reds ranked 23rd out of 30 in valuation for Forbes' 2007 "The Business of Baseball" ranking. That accounts for a value of $337 million, up 10 percent from 2006, along with revenue of $161 million and operating income of $19.3 million.

The team's valuation is determined by the value of its current stadium deal without a deduction for debt.

By contrast, the Cleveland Indians ranked 15th with a valuation of $417 million, revenue of $181 million and operating income of $29.2 million.
The top-valued franchise, the New York Yankees, was pegged at $1.31 billion, up 9 percent from the year before. The lowest-ranked franchise for 2007 was the Florida Marlins, with a value of $256 million.

Other details on Ohio's two major-league teams, compared with the top-ranked Yankees:

Reds: player expenses, $86 million; gate receipts, $42 million; and average ticket price, $18.
Indians: player expenses, $82 million; gate receipts, $54 million; and average ticket price, $21.
Yankees: player expenses, $253 million; gate receipts, $171 million; and average ticket price, $29. For more details on the Forbes baseball ranking, click here. (http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/33/biz_baseball08_The-Business-Of-Baseball_Rank.html)

klw
04-22-2008, 02:33 PM
Out of my price range.

Jpup
04-22-2008, 02:45 PM
3 words:

Sell more tickets.

redsmetz
04-22-2008, 02:52 PM
Reds: player expenses, $86 million; gate receipts, $42 million; and average ticket price, $18.

Wow, the profit sharing of other revenues must be huge if the team can make up that sort of shortfall versus their payroll costs. Anybody have any idea about those numbers?

Joseph
04-22-2008, 02:58 PM
3 words:

Sell more tickets.

Winning usually takes care of that.

Jpup
04-22-2008, 03:03 PM
Winning usually takes care of that.

that was my point. :thumbup:

REDREAD
04-22-2008, 09:20 PM
Wow, the profit sharing of other revenues must be huge if the team can make up that sort of shortfall versus their payroll costs. Anybody have any idea about those numbers?

Fairly recently they announced that all clubs were getting something like 30 million per year for all the online media stuff. That's in addition to the obscene amount of cash MLB makes on TV, and in addition to revenue sharing the Reds get.

Don't worry, they're turning a profit, despite what John Allen used to say :lol:

*BaseClogger*
04-22-2008, 09:29 PM
That's in addition to the obscene amount of cash MLB makes on TV,

MLB doesn't make nearly as much as the NFL on their national TV deal with Fox, ESPN, and TBS. Most of the TV money for the Reds comes from it FSN, but other teams like the Yankees and Red Sox that have their own regional broadcast networks make MUCH more revenue...

redsrule2500
04-23-2008, 04:37 PM
MLB doesn't make nearly as much as the NFL on their national TV deal with Fox, ESPN, and TBS. Most of the TV money for the Reds comes from it FSN, but other teams like the Yankees and Red Sox that have their own regional broadcast networks make MUCH more revenue...

or the Indians with STO