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VR
04-28-2008, 10:09 PM
Perhaps it's my old age failing me...but tonight's game seems like the first time this year we get to see the bullpen get a big chance to show their worth....ala the nasty boy years?

RedFanAlways1966
04-28-2008, 10:27 PM
You are not old, VR, you are right. Only 3 saves and no blown saves. Only one of those saves seemed "legit"...

(1) Game 3 vs. ARZ: 3-2 win. Legit.
(2) Game 10 @ MIL: 4-1 win. 3 run lead.
(3) Game 25 @ SF: 10-9 win. Coffey gives up 4 runs in the 9th.

The bullpen has 4 losses. They all happened when they took over in a tied game.

(1) Game 8 @ MIL: Lose 3-2 in 10 innings. Weathers.
(2) Game 11 @ PIT: Lose 1-0. Burton.
(3) Game 12 @ PIT: Lose 4-3. Lincoln.
(4) Game 18 vs. MIL: Lose 5-3 in 10 innings. Weathers.

reds44
04-28-2008, 10:30 PM
God bless EE's defense right there.

Saved the game, for now.

VR
04-28-2008, 10:43 PM
You are not old, VR, you are right. Only 3 saves and no blown saves. Only one of those saves seemed "legit"...

(1) Game 3 vs. ARZ: 3-2 win. Legit.
(2) Game 10 @ MIL: 4-1 win. 3 run lead.
(3) Game 25 @ SF: 10-9 win. Coffey gives up 4 runs in the 9th.

The bullpen has 4 losses. They all happened when they took over in a tied game.

(1) Game 8 @ MIL: Lose 3-2 in 10 innings. Weathers.
(2) Game 11 @ PIT: Lose 1-0. Burton.
(3) Game 12 @ PIT: Lose 4-3. Lincoln.
(4) Game 18 vs. MIL: Lose 5-3 in 10 innings. Weathers.

thanks 66, that's kind of odd w/ all the solid performances from the Reds starters

Spitball
04-28-2008, 10:47 PM
Affeldt seems to be a very nice addition. When all is said and done, he may be viewed as one of Krivsky's key additions.

OldXOhio
04-28-2008, 10:52 PM
FC about to earn his worth right thru the meat of their order.

Something just tells me that the BP baserunning error is going to come back to haunt us. If it can happen against anyone, it's the Cardinals.

PuffyPig
04-28-2008, 10:56 PM
You are not old, VR, you are right. Only 3 saves and no blown saves. Only one of those saves seemed "legit"...


Don't forget that every hold a bullpen guy gets is also a potential blown save.

So, way more chances for blown saves than just 3.

VR
04-28-2008, 11:02 PM
Reds bully held a 1 run lead over 3 innings. Feels like 1990 again :thisyear:

RedFanAlways1966
04-28-2008, 11:04 PM
Don't forget that every hold a bullpen guy gets is also a potential blown save.

So, way more chances for blown saves than just 3.

True. But a lot of the REDS wins (and holds) have come with a decent lead. One came in extras and two were 9th inning walkoffs. Very few games have seen a slim REDS lead when the bullpen took over on the mound.

Matt700wlw
04-28-2008, 11:05 PM
I can live with this!!

OnBaseMachine
04-28-2008, 11:08 PM
Affeldt was dominant tonight. What a great 8th inning that was.

VR
04-28-2008, 11:11 PM
Affeldt was dominant tonight. What a great 8th inning that was.

Reds bullpen....dominant....8th inning.

Who ever imagined those words would be in the same sentence

reds44
04-28-2008, 11:11 PM
Affeldt is a good pickup as a reliever. A big lefty who can throw in the middle 90's has a spot in my bullpen, IMO.

RFS62
04-28-2008, 11:12 PM
Reds bullpen....dominant....8th inning.

Who ever imagined those words would be in the same sentence



Yeah, no kidding.

RedFanAlways1966
04-28-2008, 11:12 PM
Reds bullpen....dominant....8th inning.

Who ever imagined those words would be in the same sentence

That Wayne guy... what was his name?!? ;)

PuffyPig
04-28-2008, 11:13 PM
True. But a lot of the REDS wins (and holds) have come with a decent lead. One came in extras and two were 9th inning walkoffs. Very few games have seen a slim REDS lead when the bullpen took over on the mound.

Holds can't come with that much of a lead. They have to be in save situations.

RedFanAlways1966
04-28-2008, 11:19 PM
Holds can't come with that much of a lead. They have to be in save situations.

Okay. I don't take much credence in it (ESPN/USA TODAY stat), but I should understand it! :)

SteelSD
04-28-2008, 11:20 PM
That Wayne guy... what was his name?!? ;)

His last name is Krivsky. He's the same guy who spent a ton of resources (both money and talent) to produce awful bullpens over the past two seasons.

PuffyPig
04-28-2008, 11:24 PM
His last name is Krivsky. He's the same guy who spent a ton of resources (both money and talent) to produce awful bullpens over the past two seasons.

Well,I think hemay have finally got it right.

With tons of potential help in the minors.

paulrichjr
04-29-2008, 12:19 AM
His last name is Krivsky. He's the same guy who spent a ton of resources (both money and talent) to produce awful bullpens over the past two seasons.

How much of the awful bullpen was due to Narron? I say more than most believe! That man was awful. It corrected itself after he left - last year.