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Johnny Footstool
05-02-2008, 10:39 AM
Just saw it on Rotoworld.

The $3.2 million price tag is a little steep for a guy who needs work, but his K/9 has been eye-popping for several years.

Would you take a flyer on him?

I probably would, but then again, I'm a sucker for power bullpen arms, even ones with control problems.

RedsManRick
05-02-2008, 10:42 AM
He's Kyle Farnsworth with a better temperament. I'd pass. I don't want him taking innings from somebody we've already got. I'm guessing he ends up in Philly.

Benihana
05-02-2008, 10:43 AM
Todd Coffey with less control (and more heat). I'd probably pass.

oneupper
05-02-2008, 10:55 AM
Wow. Success as a reliever is fleeting, isn't it.

This guy was rescued from the scrapheap, worked his way to closer and then lost it in what...3 years?

GoReds
05-02-2008, 11:04 AM
If we could get him on a split major/minor-league deal with a promise to bring him up once he had some success at the AAA level, I'd be willing. I'm sure he would enjoy going up against the Brewers several times/year.

flyer85
05-02-2008, 11:18 AM
when he was throwing the other night against Chicago he was topping at 90-91 with no command. He's either injured or finished.

Team Clark
05-02-2008, 11:32 AM
when he was throwing the other night against Chicago he was topping at 90-91 with no command. He's either injured or finished.

Amazing what happened to these types of players once Baseball got tough on the Steroid policy. :p:

lollipopcurve
05-02-2008, 11:42 AM
good move by the Brewers

Turnbow's as unreliable as they come

PuffyPig
05-02-2008, 11:52 AM
He is really, really bad. Assuming no one picks him up (I doubt they will), no harm signing him to a minor league deal, but I certainly don't expect much.

There's generally no harm in signing anyone to a minor league deal.

ramp101
05-02-2008, 12:34 PM
I think I read that assuming he wasn't claimed, he would be back in AAA. If he refused his assignment, it would make him a FA where he would forfeit his salary

Joseph
05-02-2008, 12:54 PM
I'd think Colorado would take a flyer on him with Corpas struggling as he is they could use a set up guy for Fuentes.

CTA513
05-02-2008, 12:54 PM
I would only pick him up if he would go to AAA first.

fearofpopvol1
05-02-2008, 01:57 PM
Believe it or not (and this is the 1st time I can say this in a long time), there isn't 1 arm in the Reds bullpen I would swap out for Turnbow.

Johnny Footstool
05-02-2008, 02:13 PM
If his velocity is down to 90, then I'd probably stay away after all.

MrCinatit
05-02-2008, 02:50 PM
No way. Even in the year the guy was in the All-Star game, the guy's been horrible for three years.

LoganBuck
05-02-2008, 03:25 PM
I saw him a couple weeks ago hitting 98mph. Maybe he has something wrong with his arm. Maybe it is something minor, a couple phone calls may not hurt. If he is working through some tendinitis maybe he bounces back.

Sea Ray
05-02-2008, 07:57 PM
No question the Brewers have bullpen problems. No one fears Gagne anymore. Kerry Wood just blew another save. Amazing to think that the Cubs and the Brewers, clearly the teams to beat in the division, have bigger bullpen problems than we do.

jmcclain19
05-27-2008, 10:43 AM
FWIW - Be glad the Reds passed on Turnbow


Even though Derrick Turnbow's control problems have gotten worse since he was demoted to Class AAA Nashville, Milwaukee Brewers general manager Doug Melvin said there are no plans to release the embattled reliever.

Sent down at the beginning of the month after getting off to a horrible start, Turnbow has suffered a near-total command meltdown at Nashville. In 4 1/3 innings entering Saturday, he had walked an astounding 15 hitters, while allowing five hits and seven earned runs (14.54 ERA) in six outings.

That's insane territory. 15BB in 4 1/3 innings? Right now that guy couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

westofyou
05-27-2008, 11:03 AM
FWIW - Be glad the Reds passed on Turnbow



That's insane territory. 15BB in 4 1/3 innings? Right now that guy couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

That's impressive... even Blass (85 in 84 IP) and Ankiel (25/24 IP) cannot claim such a bad ratio and they are the poster children for losing it.

Others...

Rob Dibble 1995 CWS - 16.95 BB per 9 - 27 walks in 14.1 IP (Post Reds)

Mark Wohlers - 1998 Braves - 14.61 per 9 - 33 walks in 20.1 IP (Pre Reds)

Brad Pennington - 96 O's / Angels - 13.72 per 9 - 33 walks in 20.1 IP (Post Reds)

Moral of the story?


Maybe it's time to pick up those Real Estate Books?

Gary Bell - Ball Four

Roy Tucker
05-27-2008, 11:05 AM
FWIW - Be glad the Reds passed on Turnbow



That's insane territory. 15BB in 4 1/3 innings? Right now that guy couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

I keep score at my daughter's softball game. We had a game where the other team walked 23 batters in 6 innings.

PuffyPig
05-27-2008, 11:27 AM
I keep score at my daughter's softball game. We had a game where the other team walked 23 batters in 6 innings.


Maybe Turbow's daughter was pitching?