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Spring~Fields
05-07-2008, 02:00 PM
Just Stats & Splits To Consider

Indicates the frequencies, the outcomes, possible indicators of probabilities.

Corey Patterson cf
Batting #1 - 77 AB .195 .259 .429 .688
Lead Off Inning - 35 AB .171 .256 .343 .599
vs. Left - .091 .167 .091 .258
vs. Right - .215 .276 .481 .757
Runners On - 36 AB .194 .268 .361 .629

Jerry Hairston Jr. ss
Small sample:
Batting #1 - 14 AB .500 .533 .643 1.176
Batting #2 - 7 AB .143 .143 .143 .286
vs. Left - .375 .444 .625 1.069
vs. Right - .313 .313 .313 .626
Runners On - AB 9 .444 .444 .556 1.000

Ken Griffey Jr. rf
Batting #2 - 17 AB .176 .176 .176 .352
Batting #3 - 101 AB .257 .339 .426 .765
vs. Left - 29 AB .138 .194 .207 .401
vs. Right - 85 AB .259 .347 .435 .782
Runners On - 46 AB .239 .345 .500 .845

Brandon Phillips 2b
Batting #2 - 9 AB .111 .111 .111 .222
Batting #3 - 25 AB .200 .200 .240 .440
Batting #4 - 95 AB .295 .346 .526 .872
vs. Left - 30 AB .433 .485 .867 1.352
vs. Right - 100 AB .220 .255 .350 .605
Runners On - 56 AB .321 .361 .446 .807

Joey Votto 1b
Batting #4 - 10 AB .100 .308 .100 .408
Batting #6 - 12 AB .167 .231 .417 .648
Batting #7 - 61 AB .361 .391 .607 .998
vs. Left - 26 AB .385 .467 .654 1.121
vs. Right - 63 AB .238 .273 .413 .686
Runners On - 37 AB .297 .366 .541 .907

Adam Dunn lf
Batting #4 - 14 AB .071 .235 .071 .306
Batting #5 - 74 AB .243 .406 .446 .852
Batting #6 - 11 AB .273 .273 .636 .909
vs. Left - 26 AB .192 .364 .346 .710
vs. Right 73 AB .233 .374 .438 .812
Runners On - 37 AB .256 .400 .513 .913

Edwin Encarnacion 3b
Batting #5 - 13 AB .154 .353 .154 .507
Batting #6 - 88 AB .273 .366 .477 .843
Batting #7 - 8 AB .500 .500 1.750 2.250
vs. Left - 30 AB .300 .432 .367 .799
vs. Right - 82 AB .256 .344 .573 .917
Runners On - 49 AB .204 .350 .388 .738

Paul Bako c
Batting #8 - 83 AB .301 .370 .518 .888
vs. Left - 32 AB .250 .250 .531 .781
vs. Right - 51 AB .333 .433 .510 .943
Runners On - 34 AB .265 .324 .382 .706

Keppinger
Batting #2 - 88 AB .295 .326 .420 .746
Batting #3 - 3 AB .333 .600 .333 .933
Batting #5 - 19 AB .316 .381 .421 .802
Batting #6 - 6 AB .167 .250 .167 .417
Batting #7 - 10 AB .400 .400 .400 .800
vs. Left - 30 AB .472 .467 .939
vs. Right - 97 AB .278 .297 .381 .678
Runners On - 46 AB .348 .404 .435 .839

Freel
Batting #1 - 41 AB .317 .378 .366 .744
Batting #2 - 10 AB .400 .364 .400 .764
Batting #7 - 7 AB .429 .429 .571 1.000
Batting #9 - 7 AB .143 .250 .286 .536
vs. Left - 32 AB .382 .438 .820
vs. Right - 36 AB .278 .325 .306 .631
Runners On - 24 AB .375 .407 .458 .865

flyer85
05-07-2008, 02:08 PM
design your batting order to get your best hitters the most ABs

RedsManRick
05-07-2008, 02:14 PM
design your batting order to get your best hitters the most ABs

Couldn't agree more. Everything else is secondary.

While of course guys are going to have different performances by spot in the lineup, more than anything else that's just random variation. Guys are who they are. Get your best ones the most plate appearances.

Team Clark
05-07-2008, 02:15 PM
design your batting order to get your best hitters the most ABs

Seems simple doesn't it?

flyer85
05-07-2008, 02:17 PM
Seems simple doesn't it?it is

Spring~Fields
05-07-2008, 02:22 PM
Couldn't agree more. Everything else is secondary.

While of course guys are going to have different performances by spot in the lineup, more than anything else that's just random variation. Guys are who they are. Get your best ones the most plate appearances.

You made me think more and since that day when we were posting (I guess we could call it what/if thoughts) so I have tried to look and think deeper by the data vs. opinions that may or may not be a realistic factor, I believe that you are right in that we can trust the numbers, if we interpret them correctly to apply them.

KronoRed
05-07-2008, 06:40 PM
design your batting order to get your best hitters the most ABs

That'll be the day, managers design the batting order like it's a football lineup with everyone in their place.

Spring~Fields
05-08-2008, 05:19 PM
it is

It is easy........

I had to check to make sure. :D


Vs. Right handed pitching - 3 year splits 2005-2007 - OBP, SLG, OPS
Keppinger - .384 .434 .818
Dunn - .391 .559 .950
Votto - .387 .638 1.025
Griffey - .378 .554 .932
Encarcion - 340 .452 .792
Phillips - .310 .425 .735
Patterson - .300 .403 .703 / Freel -.356 .382 .738
Bako - .286 .252 .538 / Valentin -.335 .464 .799

Against left handed pitching - 3 year splits 2005-2007 - OBP, SLG, OPS
Keppinger - .387 .521 .908
Dunn - .356 .467 .823
Phillips - .364 .529 .893
Encarcion - .367 .447 .814
Votto - .407 .500 .778 1.278 Current Yr
Hairston - .274 .302 .576 / Griffey -.312 .458 .770
Freel - .345 .363 .708
Bako - .238 .225 .463 / Ross -.325 .570 .895

Fielder Options
Griffey - vs. Left .312 .458 .770 vs. Right .378 .554 .932
Hairston - vs. Left .274 .302 .576 vs. Right .318 .337 .655
Freel - vs. Left .345 .363 .708 vs. Right .356 .382 .738
Patterson - vs. Left .268 .365 .633 vs. Right .300 .403 .703
Hatteberg - vs. Left .309 .321 .630 vs. Right .385 .434 .819

Catcher
Bako - vs. Left .238 .225 .463 vs. Right .286 .252 .538
Ross - vs. Left .325 .570 .895 vs. Right .293 .411 .704
Valentin - vs. Left .343 .345 .688 vs. Right .335 .464 .799