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Blitz Dorsey
05-07-2008, 10:09 PM
There are going to be some very good players for us to choose from at pick No. 7 this year. Should be interesting to see how it plays out. Even if no one in the projected top 6 falls to us, there will still be a crop of studs to choose from. I like Tanner Scheppers. When in doubt, always give me the college pitcher with an "electric arm."

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-dish/2008/266044.html

Rk Player Pos. School Preseason Top 50
1 Pedro Alvarez 3b Vanderbilt 1 1
Despite down year caused by early hamate injury, Alvarez is the draft's top talent. Whether or not he's worth a major league contract in the $8.5 million neighborhood is the bigger question.
2 Tim Beckham ss Griffin (Ga.) HS 4 4
Hasn't had a huge spring, but Beckham has the best combination of tools, athleticism and projection of any player in the draft. Comparisons to the Upton brothers don't fit, however.
3 Brian Matusz lhp San Diego 2 2
Surest of the sure things, a three-pitch lefty who misses bats with more than enough fastball and excellent secondary stuff.
4
Buster Posey c Florida State 15 7
In the mix starting at No. 1 overall after hittng .477 in conference games, Posey makes a case as the draft's safest pick at its most premium position.
5
Aaron Crow rhp Missouri 3 3
As much as you could ask for in a fastball, yet Crow has fallen off the torrid pace he set in the season's first two months.
6 Eric Hosmer 1b American Heritage HS, Plantation, Fla. 8 5
Asking price is high for Boras Corporation client and Arizona State signee, who has now strength and now power. "It's like watching a college hitter," one scouting director said.
7 Justin Smoak 1b South Carolina 5 6
Recent hot streak has Smoak contending to be drafted in the top five like former prep teammate Matt Wieters.
8 Gordon Beckham ss Georgia 24 12
Posey and Smoak are catching up in terms of 2008 production, which merely makes Beckham's season outstanding instead of singular.
9 Tanner Scheppers rhp Fresno State 22 9
Still learning to harness his electric stuff; 92-96 mph fastball in recent starts, and still relatively new to pitching. Could be draft's top arm if he becomes more efficient.
10 Shooter Hunt rhp Tulane 17 8
Command issues have him a tick behind Scheppers at this time; plenty of fastball to go with a true power breaking ball.
11 Kyle Skipworth c Patriot HS, Riverside, Calif. 12 11
Dominant performance (18 hits in a row) stands out even in crowded Southern California high school ranks.
12 Yonder Alonso 1b Miami 7 13
Opponents and scouts marvel at Alonso's professional approach and hitting ability, leading to 10 homers in just 22 Atlantic Coast Conference games.
13 Tim Melville rhp Holt HS, Wentzville, Mo. 6 10
Doing a little of everything for his team of late, Melville has had a two-homer game and 14 strikeouts in recent outings for Holt High.
14 Aaron Hicks rhp/of Wilson HS, Long Beach 13 15
He's done it all in the last week, throwing a complete-game shutout with 11 strikeouts on the mound and contributing a solo homer to lead off a 34-0 romp against Compton High the next game.
15 Christian Friedrich lhp Eastern Kentucky 9 14
The draft's most polished lefty commands three pitches, including a fastball with average-to-plus velocity and a good, if slow, curveball.
16 Ethan Martin rhp/3b Stephens County HS, Toccoa, Ga. NR 16
More evidence that Martin's pitching skills have moved to the fore—he threw a complete-game no-hitter with 11 strikeouts in a start April 23.
17 Joshua Fields rhp Georgia NR 18
One-inning at a time approach has suited the nation's top closer, who just gave up his first earned run this weekend.
18 Gerrit Cole rhp Lutheran HS, Orange, Calif. 11 19
With an arm as good as any in the draft, Cole still has managed to see his stock fall due to concerns about his delivery, mound presence and secondary pitches.
19 Alex Meyer rhp Greensburg (Ind.) HS NR 22
Six-foot-7 Kentucky signee has little in common with last year's Indiana phenom, Jarrod Parker, but should join him in first round.
20 Casey Kelly ss/rhp Sarasota (Fla.) HS NR 35
Tennessee quarterback signee and son of ex-big leaguer Pat Kelly has shown first-round talent as both position player and pitcher.
21 Brett Wallace 1b/3b Arizona State NR 26
Red-hot of late, Wallace remains one of the draft's best pure hitters and has firmed up his body.
22 Conor Gillaspie 3b Wichita State NR 29
A grinder and a premium hitter, Gillaspie has built on his strong summer, when he was MVP of the Cape Cod League.
23 Jemile Weeks 2b Miami 25 20
Rickie's younger brother lacks his pure physicality but has offensive upside, including line-drive swing, speed and surprising power.
24 Andrew Cashner rhp Texas Christian NR NR
Fast-moving closer has upper-90s velocity, pushing to front of down college crop in Texas.
25 Ryan Perry rhp Arizona 16 38
Poor early performance somewhat mitigated by a move to the bullpen; still one of the draft's elite arms at 92-97 mph.
26 Reese Havens ss South Carolina NR 34
He's built on his Cape Cod League improvement; his 1.150 OPS this spring is a 400-point improvement on his first two seasons.
27 Jason Castro
c Stanford NR NR
Third-string catcher last summer in Cape Cod (behind Posey and LSU's Sean Ochinko), Castro has plenty of bat and enough ability to stay behind the plate.
28 Brett DeVall lhp Niceville (Fla.) HS 30 30
Florida's top prep pitcher saw his 18-innings scoreless streak in the postseason end when he was used on two days' rest; Niceville won 3-2 anyway.
29 Daniel Webb rhp Heath HS, West Paducah, Ky. NR 33
Despite fierce competition from the state's strongest draft crop ever, Webb remains the class of Kentucky.
30 Ike Davis 1b/of Arizona State NR
36
Before recent injury (he hasn't started for five games), Davis was making a case for Pac-10 player of the year as he's nearly matched his career home run total with 15.

OesterPoster
05-08-2008, 08:41 AM
I don't see Jack Armstrong, Jr. on the list, so I'm assuming he's pretty committed to attending Vanderbilt?

JaxRed
05-08-2008, 08:46 AM
Bums me out that we don't have a supplemental or 2nd round pick this year.....

Benihana
05-08-2008, 09:52 AM
I would be happy with any of those listed in the Top 8, although I doubt Posey is a possibility. Matusz has always been my favorite because he would be such a great fit, while Crow is probably my least favorite of the bunch.

Joseph
05-08-2008, 09:54 AM
How great would Matusz look in a Reds uni?

princeton
05-08-2008, 10:00 AM
an overpriced Pedro Alvarez sounds like a Walt Jocketty pick.

We will just have to change name from the Cincinnati Designated Hitters to the Cincinnati Third Sackers

NorrisHopper30
05-08-2008, 10:28 AM
I'd rather have Scheppers or Hunt than Crow.

Benihana
05-08-2008, 10:34 AM
an overpriced Pedro Alvarez sounds like a Walt Jocketty pick.

We will just have to change name from the Cincinnati Designated Hitters to the Cincinnati Third Sackers

I'd happily take Alvarez. You don't like him?

Benihana
05-08-2008, 10:35 AM
I'd rather have Scheppers or Hunt than Crow.

Scheppers? Maybe. Hunt? No way.

dougdirt
05-08-2008, 12:28 PM
Just stay away from Crow.

Blue
05-09-2008, 01:49 AM
an overpriced Pedro Alvarez sounds like a Walt Jocketty pick.

We will just have to change name from the Cincinnati Designated Hitters to the Cincinnati Third Sackers

Not sure how much the GM would be involved in the selection. Gordon Beckham is the available (by BA's rankings) Chris Buckley pick. However, the BA draft blog indicates that Beckham won't make it past the fourth pick (Baltimore). I wouldn't mind Alvarez, but he won't be around.

LoganBuck
05-09-2008, 07:26 AM
The question has to be asked: Will Jocketty and Castellini pay a premium for a player like Alvarez or are they stuck looking at players who will accept slot money? If they choose for slot which players need to be eliminated from the equation?

princeton
05-09-2008, 09:08 AM
Not sure how much the GM would be involved in the selection. Gordon Beckham is the available (by BA's rankings) Chris Buckley pick. However, the BA draft blog indicates that Beckham won't make it past the fourth pick (Baltimore). I wouldn't mind Alvarez, but he won't be around.

GM will be involved-- the SD needs to know how much he can spend, and whether that number gets adjusted if a certain player is available.

but I've long thought that Gordon Beckham sounded like the most Buckley-like pick. If he's not available and the Reds don't go for a high-priced guy, then things might get really interesting.

lollipopcurve
05-09-2008, 09:13 AM
G. Beckham's definitely the Buckley pick -- I'm thinking at least 1 of Crow, Matusz and Tim Beckham will slip and be available to the Reds

Benihana
05-09-2008, 09:40 AM
G. Beckham's definitely the Buckley pick -- I'm thinking at least 1 of Crow, Matusz and Tim Beckham will slip and be available to the Reds

Please let it be Matusz or Beckham. I would be ecstatic with either

Benihana
05-09-2008, 09:42 AM
The question has to be asked: Will Jocketty and Castellini pay a premium for a player like Alvarez or are they stuck looking at players who will accept slot money? If they choose for slot which players need to be eliminated from the equation?

If they're not going to break the bank, count Alvarez and Hosmer out for sure. My guess is you'll see a guy like Scheppers, Hunt, or Freiderich if they're going for slot guys. And with all the great players available in this draft, I would be less than enthused with any of those guys.

bucksfan2
05-09-2008, 10:55 AM
If they're not going to break the bank, count Alvarez and Hosmer out for sure. My guess is you'll see a guy like Scheppers, Hunt, or Freiderich if they're going for slot guys. And with all the great players available in this draft, I would be less than enthused with any of those guys.

I don't know about breaking the bank. I would imagine any owner or GM would have to evaluate each player based upon the skill and then decide whether the investment is worth it.

How many "expensive" draft picks pan out?

princeton
05-09-2008, 11:00 AM
it'd be nice if the "Buckley pick" and the "best available pick" would overlap this year.

got a chance

BuckeyeRedleg
05-09-2008, 11:05 AM
My preferred order:

1. Matusz
2. Alvarez
3. T. Beckham
4. Smoak
5. G. Beckham

Benihana
05-09-2008, 11:32 AM
My preferred order:

1. Matusz
2. Alvarez
3. T. Beckham
4. Smoak
5. G. Beckham

I agree, although it would be a very tough call between Alvarez and Tim Beckham.

fearofpopvol1
05-09-2008, 03:20 PM
Matusz would be great...but I'm just not convinced he'll be there by the time the Reds pick. One of the Beckham's would do. I'd continue to eye Scheppers as well.

Az. Reds Fan
05-10-2008, 05:28 PM
For anyone looking for good draft sites, which are extremely difficult to find, this one is really good.

http://www.mlb-draft.com/index.html

FYI, it's got the Reds picking Aaron Crow in their mock draft

Blue
05-10-2008, 10:33 PM
For anyone looking for good draft sites, which are extremely difficult to find, this one is really good.

http://www.mlb-draft.com/index.html

FYI, it's got the Reds picking Aaron Crow in their mock draft

Thanks for that.

Grande Donkey
05-11-2008, 12:02 PM
Just stay away from Crow.
What is wrong with Crow? Just wondering.

Az. Reds Fan
05-11-2008, 12:21 PM
What is wrong with Crow? Just wondering.

A Boras client ?

dougdirt
05-11-2008, 01:10 PM
What is wrong with Crow? Just wondering.

Real rough and dirty mechanics. Arm injury waiting to happen if you ask me (and others for that matter).

camisadelgolf
05-11-2008, 02:28 PM
I had a dream last night that the Reds drafted Alvarez. I don't know if that means anything, but if any of you put stock in that, I just thought I'd share.

LoganBuck
05-11-2008, 04:27 PM
I keep debating pitcher versus hitter. I want both badly. I just keep thinking the Reds wouldn't have had to trade Hamilton if they had been developing their own pitching talent the last fifteen years. Hitters can be acquired, pitching is so valuable.

11larkin11
05-14-2008, 02:44 PM
A teammate of mine went down to Georgia for a predraft showcase. I asked him if anyone stood out there, and he told me that Todd (I had to correct him and say Tim) Beckham pretty much made everyone there, including himself, look stupid.

M2
05-14-2008, 03:03 PM
A teammate of mine went down to Georgia for a predraft showcase. I asked him if anyone stood out there, and he told me that Todd (I had to correct him and say Tim) Beckham pretty much made everyone there, including himself, look stupid.

Is that good or bad?

Blue
05-14-2008, 03:18 PM
Is that good or bad?

I don't know the answer, but I'm pretty sure its going to be a matter of perspective.

11larkin11
05-14-2008, 03:23 PM
It is speaking highly of Beckham. My friend isn't really a big draft prospect, he will be playing college ball in Cleveland next year, but I just wanted to show a little bit of first hand perspective.

M2
05-14-2008, 04:17 PM
It is speaking highly of Beckham. My friend isn't really a big draft prospect, he will be playing college ball in Cleveland next year, but I just wanted to show a little bit of first hand perspective.

That's fine. I appreciate the perspective. I just wasn't sure what you meant about Beckham making himself look stupid.

Tommyjohn25
05-14-2008, 04:30 PM
That's fine. I appreciate the perspective. I just wasn't sure what you meant about Beckham making himself look stupid.

I think the "himself" in that post was referring to his prospect friend, not Beckham.