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Redman15
05-12-2008, 12:04 PM
Bruce homered and doubled. 1-0 Louisville.

Matt700wlw
05-12-2008, 12:05 PM
Still not ready, I take it...

Screwball
05-12-2008, 12:08 PM
Bruce homered and doubled. 1-0 Louisville.

Awesome. Average up to .338 now.

Degenerate39
05-12-2008, 12:08 PM
Bruce homered and doubled. 1-0 Louisville.

Leave him down as Patterson only homers or doubles during the blue moon.

OesterPoster
05-12-2008, 12:22 PM
Awesome. Average up to .338 now.

Yeah, but his OBP needs to be higher. :D

flyer85
05-12-2008, 12:26 PM
Maloney with a no-hitter thru 5.

Benihana
05-12-2008, 12:30 PM
How many K's for Maloney?

When does Thompson pitch next?

Screwball
05-12-2008, 12:35 PM
Bruce doubles to left in is 3rd AB on a 2-0 pitch. He drives in Andy Green and sends Dickerson to 3rd. He's 3-3 on the day with 2 RBIs.

Screwball
05-12-2008, 12:40 PM
How many K's for Maloney?


5.

Bats breaking it open here in the 5th. Andy Green was HBP. Dickerson walked. Bruce doubled to score Green. Andy Phillips was intentionally walked. Kevin Barker singled to score Dickerson and Bruce. Luis Bolivar walked. Bases loaded again and there's still nobody out.

Drew T Anderson grounds into a 4-6-3 double play. Andy Phillips scores, though, to make it 5-0 Bats with two out in the 5th.

ETA: wild pitch allows Barker to score. 6-0 Bats after 5.

NC Reds
05-12-2008, 12:42 PM
Bruce is 3-3 and up to .343 now. Funny how some posters only show when he or Bailey slumps.

Degenerate39
05-12-2008, 12:42 PM
Bruce doubles to left in is 3rd AB on a 2-0 pitch. He drives in Andy Green and sends Dickerson to 3rd. He's 3-3 on the day with 2 RBIs.

He should've walked

Prf15
05-12-2008, 12:45 PM
Bats are facing former Red Scott Williamson.

NC Reds
05-12-2008, 12:46 PM
Bring up Bruce but keep Dusty and Jacoby away from him.

AccordinglyReds
05-12-2008, 12:49 PM
Dammit, I knew I should have gone to the game today. :(

Matt700wlw
05-12-2008, 12:52 PM
What's Corey Patterson have on this kid again?

cumberlandreds
05-12-2008, 12:55 PM
Still not ready, I take it...


Nah..he doubled his 2nd time up. He's gotta homer or walk 10 consecutive AB's to be promoted. ;)

Screwball
05-12-2008, 12:56 PM
Maloney got 'em 1-2-3 in the top of the 6th with another strikeout. 6 PEACES on the day for him so far.

Bats still up 6-0.

cumberlandreds
05-12-2008, 12:57 PM
NM

Screwball
05-12-2008, 12:58 PM
Dickerson homers off Scott Williamson to make it 7-0 bats.

Bruce up next.

Screwball
05-12-2008, 01:00 PM
Bruce singles to right. He's 4-4 on the day and just a triple short of the cycle.

NC Reds
05-12-2008, 01:01 PM
4-4 and .348 average, but no walks today. I'm sad. :(

Matt700wlw
05-12-2008, 01:01 PM
The cycle would be sweet....isn't this the 3rd time this season he was one hit away?

Benihana
05-12-2008, 01:04 PM
I think we'll see Bruce in Cincy by the end of the month.

Screwball
05-12-2008, 01:10 PM
Maloney Ks Brandon Jones to begin the 7th. 7 Ks today.

Barbaro Canizares lines a single into center (2-2 pitch) to break up the no-no. 6.1 no-hit innings for Maloney today.

New Fever
05-12-2008, 01:12 PM
I think we'll see Bruce in Cincy by the end of the month.

Maybe Tomorrow

HotCorner
05-12-2008, 01:17 PM
Maybe Tomorrow

Can they call him up tonight? :D

Screwball
05-12-2008, 01:25 PM
Maloney gives up another single after Canizares' base knock but gets the next two batters to fly out. 7 IP of 0 run ball for Maloney today, lowering his ERA to 5.23.

Doubleheader today, so they only played 7 innings. Bats win 7-0. Maloney came 2 outs away from throwing a no hitter, and Bruce went 4-4 with a HR, 2 2B, 1B, and 2 RBIs.

Maloney's line: 7 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 7 K, 5.23 ERA

NJReds
05-12-2008, 01:25 PM
I wonder if Maloney will get a shot at the 5th spot in the rotation.

Belisle reminds me of what the Mets went through with Heilman. They almost cut Heilman as a failed starter at one point before converting him to the bullpen, where he's been quite effective.

New Fever
05-12-2008, 01:27 PM
Jay Bruce is 16 for 25 (.640) in the last 7 games, one game he pinch hit. He has hit 4 doubles, a triple, and two homers in that span as well.

NJReds
05-12-2008, 01:27 PM
Bruce went 4-4 with a HR, 2 2B, 1B, and 2 RBIs.

Hacker. Obviously he was out too late last night partying with Bailey. ;)

HBP
05-12-2008, 01:37 PM
Maybe Tomorrow

He should but I doubt it happens for awhile. It's a shame too; watching him with Harang, Votto and Volquez are about the only things that aren't utterly depressing on this team.

danforsman
05-12-2008, 01:38 PM
I can tell you first hand that Jay Bruce and Tom Shearn made a lot of kids (and adults) very happy on Saturday by spending their morning at the Special Olympics at Fairdale H.S. in Louisville. I could not have been more impressed with either of them. Not just arriving bright and early on a Saturday morning, but speaking from the heart during the opening ceremonies and spending all the time it took to sign every autograph, shake every hand and to interact sincerely with the athletes and their families.

OesterPoster
05-12-2008, 01:45 PM
What's Corey Patterson have on this kid again?

Compromising photos of Dusty Baker? :p:

Blue
05-12-2008, 02:06 PM
If Bruce gets his OPS up over 1.000, you can't justify keeping him in the minors no matter the separation between his BA and OBP. He's at .991 as of the end of the first game this afternoon, and is to this point 0-1 in the second game.

fearofpopvol1
05-12-2008, 02:16 PM
I wonder if Maloney will get a shot at the 5th spot in the rotation.

Belisle reminds me of what the Mets went through with Heilman. They almost cut Heilman as a failed starter at one point before converting him to the bullpen, where he's been quite effective.

After a performance like today, I was thinking the exact same thing. He's not been very good this season, though. But it looks like his last few starts have been better.

Benihana
05-12-2008, 02:29 PM
I would give Belisle another couple starts in the rotation, and likewise for Maloney in Louisville. If Belisle continues to struggle and Maloney continues his upswing, I'd give Maloney a shot in the rotation after the draft. However, I would still be shopping him (Maloney) heavily at the moment to see if anyone would bite on the strikeout southpaw. If no significant offers come in, then I'd give him a shot in the bigs.

Bailey needs to remain in AAA to straighten himself out for the forseeable future.

Nugget
05-12-2008, 02:33 PM
Was this not the same freneticism that was going on last year to have Bailey called up - I know this never has any traction here but could it be Bruce does need some seasoning in AAA so he can become an everyday player for the REDS once he comes up and does not need to be sent down to AAA to straighten himself out.

fearofpopvol1
05-12-2008, 02:43 PM
I would give Belisle another couple starts in the rotation, and likewise for Maloney in Louisville. If Belisle continues to struggle and Maloney continues his upswing, I'd give Maloney a shot in the rotation after the draft. However, I would still be shopping him (Maloney) heavily at the moment to see if anyone would bite on the strikeout southpaw. If no significant offers come in, then I'd give him a shot in the bigs.

Bailey needs to remain in AAA to straighten himself out for the forseeable future.

I think Maloney is going to have to level off that ERA quite a bit before he's shoppable for anything of value. He's not had a good season and presently, isn't worth much.

dougdirt
05-12-2008, 02:48 PM
Bruce singled in the second game in the 4th inning. He is 1-2 in the second game.

membengal
05-12-2008, 02:50 PM
Wait, he made an out in the first at-bat in the second game? He should be busted back to Sarasota. This bent he has to make "outs" is really unfortunate.

You know who else used to make "outs" as he moved through the farm system? Brandon Larson.

Just sayin'.

The comparison is eerie.

indy_dave00
05-12-2008, 02:54 PM
I think Jay is picking a good day to show his skills, Reds director of Scouting Terry Reynolds is at the games today.

dougdirt
05-12-2008, 02:58 PM
Bats scored 2 and took a 2-1 lead.

indy_dave00
05-12-2008, 02:59 PM
Since May 1st Jay counting 1 for 2 in games 2 is now 17 for 39 --.435 with 17 hits and 4 walks , reached base 21 times in 43 at bats a.488 on base % in 11 games.

Guess Reds would prefer 12 hits and 9 walks ? He is reaching base thats the key , hard to have an ob% 60% higher when your batting average approaches .350

Matt700wlw
05-12-2008, 03:06 PM
I think Jay is picking a good day to show his skills, Reds director of Scouting Terry Reynolds is at the games today.

Good timing!

HBP
05-12-2008, 03:07 PM
Was this not the same freneticism that was going on last year to have Bailey called up - I know this never has any traction here but could it be Bruce does need some seasoning in AAA so he can become an everyday player for the REDS once he comes up and does not need to be sent down to AAA to straighten himself out.

Have you seen who roams the three OF spots for the Reds? I'd put good money on that Bruce could best at least two of them right now.

He's played close to 90 games at AAA now and has shown he's better than 99% of the players in the minors. Not much left for him to prove IMO and I think his walk rate will get higher as he gets older.

princeton
05-12-2008, 03:11 PM
"I think Cueto should be a verb."
- C. Trent Rosecrans, 4/3/08



(kwae'-toe). 1. Failure to coddle a pitcher (baseball); 2. overzealous promotion. The team cuetoed its prize prospect, and his career suffered.

Screwball
05-12-2008, 03:15 PM
Bruce flied out to left in his 3rd AB. 1-3 in the 2nd game.

Blue
05-12-2008, 03:15 PM
Are the Bats batting out of order or is Gameday messed up? I'll bet Gameday is messed up, no one ever bats out of order.

Blue
05-12-2008, 03:21 PM
"I think Cueto should be a verb."
- C. Trent Rosecrans, 4/3/08



(kwae'-toe). 1. Failure to coddle a pitcher (baseball); 2. overzealous promotion. The team cuetoed its prize prospect, and his career suffered.

I'm not worried about Johnny, nor do I think he was promoted too soon. His problem is too many HRs (perhaps a matter of focus or overconfidence). That's about it. Judging by his performance across three levels last season, that wasn't a problem in the minor leagues. He's not going to gain the capability to get that number down by facing minor leaguers.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 03:22 PM
Great day by Bruce. Please get him to Cincy, now.

BTW Daryl Thompson pitches tonight.

Nugget
05-12-2008, 03:24 PM
Have you seen who roams the three OF spots for the Reds? I'd put good money on that Bruce could best at least two of them right now.

He's played close to 90 games at AAA now and has shown he's better than 99% of the players in the minors. Not much left for him to prove IMO and I think his walk rate will get higher as he gets older.

i think its a case of making sure that he has no development left to make as a batter that they are worried about. Pitching in the big leagues is a lot different to pitching in the minors so there may be somthing that they want him to show he has really got a hang of before he makes it to the bigs and be found out by major league pitching.

Matt700wlw
05-12-2008, 03:34 PM
Bruce flied out to left in his 3rd AB. 1-3 in the 2nd game.

More evidence that he's not ready...he can't bat 1.000 for games at a time.

Benihana
05-12-2008, 03:35 PM
"I think Cueto should be a verb."
- C. Trent Rosecrans, 4/3/08



(kwae'-toe). 1. Failure to coddle a pitcher (baseball); 2. overzealous promotion. The team cuetoed its prize prospect, and his career suffered.

Until this year, I thought that was to "edinson" somebody? Just sayin...

NJReds
05-12-2008, 03:38 PM
"I think Cueto should be a verb."
- C. Trent Rosecrans, 4/3/08



(kwae'-toe). 1. Failure to coddle a pitcher (baseball); 2. overzealous promotion. The team cuetoed its prize prospect, and his career suffered.

There aren't a lot of Doc Goodens out there that step on the mound and dominate from day one. Many very good pitchers struggled at times during their first year in the majors.

Reds pitchers don't get any help from the OF defense, either. In fact, except for Phillips, they don't get help from their defense, period.

NYMoose
05-12-2008, 04:07 PM
Until this year, I thought that was to "edinson" somebody? Just sayin...

Prior to Edinson, it was "Reithed"

Aronchis
05-12-2008, 04:09 PM
Prior to Edinson, it was "Reithed"

Please, Reith was a no talent hack. Cueto has better stuff than Reith could ever dream of.

Blue
05-12-2008, 04:12 PM
There aren't a lot of Doc Goodens out there that step on the mound and dominate from day one. Many very good pitchers struggled at times during their first year in the majors.

Reds pitchers don't get any help from the OF defense, either. In fact, except for Phillips, they don't get help from their defense, period.

Don't forget Votto. Patterson is pretty good out there too, but since range is the only skill he has, it is overlooked. I agree with your overall point though. Range is a problem at all positions but 1B, 2B, and CF. Poor arms all over the outfield, with poor strength in RF and CF, and poor accuracy in LF. Too many errors at 3B. The defense is a mess. I hope that can be fixed if we are selling at the trade deadline.

Redman15
05-12-2008, 04:17 PM
I see Danny Dorn is activated and wearing No. 22 on the Sarasota roster. He should play tonight.
Daniel Perales is on Daytons roster and wearing No.12.

JaxRed
05-12-2008, 04:27 PM
Nice catch Redman

OesterPoster
05-12-2008, 04:34 PM
More evidence that he's not ready...he can't bat 1.000 for games at a time.

Well, he did lower his average by only going 1 for 3...with a run scored. :D

He also added an outfield assist by nailing a runner at 2nd...but the Reds don't need his kind of defense right now. They've got Dunn-Patterfreel-Griffey.

Matt700wlw
05-12-2008, 04:47 PM
I'm guessing the fact that he leads the IL league in hits (48) means nothing as well...

SMcGavin
05-12-2008, 04:49 PM
Matt Maloney is good at pitching. 41 IP, 37 K, 13 BB, 1 HR allowed

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 04:52 PM
After today Jay Bruce is hitting .348 with a .984 OPS.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 04:57 PM
Maloney regaining form after rough start
Louisville lefty comes within two outs of a seven-inning no-hitter
By Benjamin Hill / Special to MLB.com

Matt Maloney got off to a rocky start this season, but he seems to be returning to what made him a premier pitching prospect.

In the first game of Monday afternoon's doubleheader, the 24-year-old southpaw pitched 6 1/3 no-hit innings but had to settle for a two-hit shutout as the Lousiville Bats cruised to a 7-0 win over the Richmond Braves.

"I threw a no-hitter in high school, but in the pros I had never gone so deep into the game without allowing a hit," said Maloney. "Today, I was thinking about pitching a no-hitter from about the fourth or fifth inning on. It's hard not to think that. I was just trying to remain calm, get ahead of the hitters and let them get themselves out."

After compiling a 7.24 ERA over his first six starts of the season, Maloney has finally settled into a groove. The former third-round Draft pick yielded two runs over seven innings against Norfolk on May 7, and followed that up with Monday's bid for immortality. Maloney struck out seven and walked two in the seven-inning contest. He struck out Brandon Jones to start the seventh frame, but then yielded Barbaro Canizares' hard-hit single up the middle.

"I hung a changeup, and I knew it was a bad pitch the moment it left my hand," said Maloney. "I was hoping he wouldn't swing at it, but he shot it back up the middle where nobody could make a play."

Following Canizares' single, Maloney yielded Joe Borchard's bloop hit before settling down and retiring the game's final two batters. The complete game was his first since June 20, 2007, when he was pitching for the Reading Phillies.

"I located my fastball away pretty well today, was throwing the curveball for strikes, and had a good changeup," said Maloney, who was traded to the Cincinnati Reds organization last July, as part of the deal that brought right-hander Kyle Lohse to Philadelphia. "A big improvement for me over the past two starts has been eliminating the big inning, where I give up three or four runs and let the game get out of hand."

The Bats' offense provided Maloney with plenty of support in the contest, and chief among the contributors was Jay Bruce. The 2005 first-round Draft pick went 4-for-4 with a home run, two doubles, two RBIs, and two runs scored to raise his average to an International League-leading .348. Kevin Barker hit a two-run single as part of the Bats' five-run fifth frame, while Chris Dickerson blasted his first home run of the year in the sixth.

Mat DeSalvo (1-5) took the loss, yielding two runs on three hits and three walks over four frames. Jeff Ridgway allowed four runs on two hits and three walks while retiring just two batters.

The Bats (23-16) went on to sweep the twinbill, eking out a 2-1 win over the R-Braves (20-17) in Game 2.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080512&content_id=397852&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp

NJReds
05-12-2008, 05:00 PM
Don't forget Votto. Patterson is pretty good out there too, but since range is the only skill he has, it is overlooked. I agree with your overall point though. Range is a problem at all positions but 1B, 2B, and CF. Poor arms all over the outfield, with poor strength in RF and CF, and poor accuracy in LF. Too many errors at 3B. The defense is a mess. I hope that can be fixed if we are selling at the trade deadline.

No doubt that Patterson is a good CF, but Freel was backing up Cueto yesterday.

Spring~Fields
05-12-2008, 05:17 PM
Bring up Bruce but keep Dusty and Jacoby away from him.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: five thumbs up for you. :)

Spring~Fields
05-12-2008, 05:21 PM
Jay Bruce is 16 for 25 (.640) in the last 7 games, one game he pinch hit. He has hit 4 doubles, a triple, and two homers in that span as well.

Sweet,

gives me hope unless Patterson has pictures on someone. ;)

Spring~Fields
05-12-2008, 05:27 PM
I think Jay is picking a good day to show his skills, Reds director of Scouting Terry Reynolds is at the games today.

So he is doing well hitting under pressure to.

Redman15
05-12-2008, 06:54 PM
Frazier playing 3rd and Dorn is at 1st for Sarasota tonight.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 07:10 PM
Shaun Cumberland is not in the starting lineup again tonight for Chattanooga. I don't understand why guys like Jerry Gil continues to play everyday over an actual solid prospect like Cumberland.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 07:12 PM
BTW Daniel Perales is in the Dayton lineup tonight most likely on rehab.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 07:22 PM
Alexander Smit K's the side in the first inning.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 07:35 PM
Daryl Thompson throws a scoreless first inning with a walk and strikeout.

Strait: 1-for-1 double
Gutierrez: 1-for-1 double

Thompson: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K

dougdirt
05-12-2008, 07:44 PM
Kevyn Feiner singled and scored after an Angel Cabrera double got him to third and a Justin Reed ground out scored him. 1-0 Dragons

Kc61
05-12-2008, 07:47 PM
Gutierrez needs to be moved up a notch immediately. I want this done before the next inning. The guy is the OBP king of AA ball.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 07:49 PM
I've always been a fan of Gutierrez because of his OBP skills. He doesn't have the power to be an everyday 1B but he can play some outfield and could serve as a solid bat off the bench.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 07:56 PM
Thompson: 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K

Degenerate39
05-12-2008, 07:58 PM
When Thompson has a bad start will he be an alcoholic all of a sudden?

Redman15
05-12-2008, 07:58 PM
Fraizer RBI single. 1-1 B4.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 08:00 PM
I look forward to the day when Jay Bruce and Todd Frazier are in the Reds lineup.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 08:15 PM
1-2-3 3rd inning for Thompson:

3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K

2-0 Chattanooga.

Redman15
05-12-2008, 08:16 PM
Heisey Double,Denove RBI single,Castro single,DeJesus 2 RBI Triple,Turner RBI single,Francisco RBI single.
6-1 Sarasota T5.

Benihana
05-12-2008, 08:27 PM
Some may take this as blasphemy, but now might be a great time to trade Thompson for Matt LaPorta.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 08:29 PM
Frazier was HBP in his third PA. He's 1-for-2.

Grande Donkey
05-12-2008, 08:31 PM
Some may take this as blasphemy, but now might be a great time to trade Thompson for Matt LaPorta.
I'd take it.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 08:31 PM
Thompson: 4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 3 K

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 08:52 PM
6-0 Chattanooga after 5.

Strait: 2-for-3 double
Valaika: 1-for-3
Gutierrez: 2-for-2 two doubles, walk

Thompson: 5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 3 K...9 GO/3 FO

Kc61
05-12-2008, 08:52 PM
Gutierrez now with two doubles and a walk tonight. His OBP is now 90,000.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 09:11 PM
7-1 Sarasota in the 7th inning.

DeJesus: 3-for-4 triple, 2 RBI
Turner: 1-for-3 walk
Frazier: 1-for-3 HBP
Francisco: 2-for-4
Stubbs: 2-for-4 triple

Smit: 6 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 8 K

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 09:13 PM
Thompson: 6 IP, 4 H, 0 ER, 4 BB, 5 K...9 GO/4 FO

Grande Donkey
05-12-2008, 09:14 PM
Got a pitch count for Thompson OBM?

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 09:19 PM
Got a pitch count for Thompson OBM?

Nope. :)

Thompson's day is done.

fearofpopvol1
05-12-2008, 09:26 PM
Is Thompson hot sheet material yet???

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 09:30 PM
Great outing by Valiquette out of the Dayton bullpen tonight:

2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 5 K

2-1 Dayton in the 9th.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2008, 09:35 PM
Valiquette saves it. Dayton wins 2-1.

3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 6 K

Slyder
05-12-2008, 10:17 PM
What's Corey Patterson have on this kid again?

Patterson has the Dusty Baker seal of CRAPproval that is binding until armaggedon or until the time that Baker is fired/released from his responsibilities. At which point Patterson gets dropped like a bad habit.

AmarilloRed
05-12-2008, 10:21 PM
Let's hope Dusty doesn't talk Jocketty into picking up Patterson after he becomes a free agent. 1 year of Patterson is enough for me.

PuffyPig
05-12-2008, 10:26 PM
Thompson: 6 IP, 4 H, 0 ER, 4 BB, 5 K...9 GO/4 FO


I guess Thompson layed off the sauce tonight.....

11larkin11
05-12-2008, 11:19 PM
Is he finally getting it right?

Sean Watson has only given up 1 ER in his last 6 appearances

Screwball
05-13-2008, 12:11 AM
DeJesus: 3-for-4 triple, 2 RBI
Turner: 1-for-3 walk
Frazier: 1-for-3 HBP
Francisco: 2-for-4
Stubbs: 2-for-4 triple


Pitchers' league or not, that's a tough lineup for an A ball (albeit high A) pitcher to face.

roborobj
05-13-2008, 01:15 AM
what in the world is wrong with the Chattanooga bullpen? Thompson pitched a gem only to be given up.:confused:

LincolnparkRed
05-13-2008, 12:45 PM
I guess Thompson layed off the sauce tonight..... so what's with the drinking references?? Is he another Farnsworth?

klw
05-13-2008, 01:04 PM
so what's with the drinking references?? Is he another Farnsworth?

No it is reference to this now closed thread in which there was discussion that another pitcher's troubles were related to excessive partying.
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67009&page=11