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bubbachunk
05-13-2008, 09:29 PM
Is this the clear cut option to replace Jeff Kepp?

NarrowStairs
05-13-2008, 09:31 PM
I was checking the box score from the 'Bats game going on right now. Janish was pulled in the 8th inning after a 1 for 2 night.

Methinks he's on his way to Cincinnati as we speak.

I(heart)Freel
05-13-2008, 09:47 PM
That's kind of a bummer.

I think I woulda tried Hairston for a week or so, and call up Bruce.

Hairston showed me a couple little things tonight in the field that showed me it would be worth trying. And Bruce gets an audition. If he passes, great... keep him around and make a move. If he doesn't, no biggie. Send him back down when Hopper's ready or something.

Damn shame about Kepp though. I was really looking forward to seeing him against the Indians this weekend.

Ghosts of 1990
05-13-2008, 09:52 PM
why not bruce let hairston and freel play ss

HeatherC1212
05-13-2008, 09:54 PM
They need a good defender at SS and I would rather have Jerry and Ryan be able to move around as the utility guys. It's not a bad thing to get Janish up here since we know he can defend and hit a bit too.

Kingspoint
05-13-2008, 09:56 PM
I was checking the box score from the 'Bats game going on right now. Janish was pulled in the 8th inning after a 1 for 2 night.

Methinks he's on his way to Cincinnati as we speak.


That's a pretty good clue.

Kingspoint
05-13-2008, 09:57 PM
Batting Statistics
Year Team Lg Age Org. Level Pos Ln G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO HBP IBB SH SF DP AVG OBP SLG OPS GB%
2002 Rice WAC 19 NCAA 61 197 32 59 14 1 2 30 6 0 11 13 5 2 2 1 .299 .349 .411 760 --
2003 Rice WAC 20 NCAA 68 262 42 77 14 0 4 44 4 1 21 35 12 2 3 6 .294 .369 .393 762 --
2004 Rice WAC 21 NCAA 57 235 52 81 16 2 9 60 5 3 32 23 5 2 4 8 .345 .428 .545 973 --
Billings Pio 21 Cin Rk ss 66 205 39 54 11 0 2 22 7 3 45 45 5 0 7 1 2 .263 .406 .346 752 --
2005 Dayton Midw 22 Cin A ss 55 208 30 51 10 2 5 29 5 2 29 38 5 2 8 4 1 .245 .346 .385 731 --
2006 Dayton Midw 23 Cin A ss 26 98 19 39 6 0 5 18 0 0 7 10 1 0 0 2 0 .398 .435 .612 1047 --
Sarasota FSL 23 Cin A+ ss 91 336 53 93 17 2 9 55 8 2 38 40 6 0 7 7 8 .277 .354 .420 774 --
Chattga Sou 23 Cin AA ss 4 15 1 4 1 0 0 2 0 0 1 5 0 0 0 0 1 .267 .313 .333 646 --
2007 Chattga Sou 24 Cin AA ss 88 324 46 79 21 2 1 20 10 3 50 54 9 0 5 3 5 .244 .358 .330 688 --
Louisville IL 24 Cin AAA ss 55 199 20 44 8 1 3 19 2 0 14 31 2 1 11 1 7 .221 .278 .317 595 --
2008 Louisville IL 25 Cin AAA 30 107 17 29 3 0 3 16 2 0 8 16 1 1 5 1 1 .271 .325 .383 708 --

Minor League Totals - 5 Season(s) 415 1492 225 393 77 7 28 181 34 10 192 239 29 4 43 19 25 .263 .355 .381 736 --

Kingspoint
05-13-2008, 09:59 PM
Full Name: Paul R. Janish
Born: October 12,1982 in Cypress, Texas
Height: 6-2 Weight: 180 Bats: Right Throws: Right
High School: -
College: Rice University

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Drafted: Selected by Cincinnati Reds in 5th Round (138th overall) of 2004 amateur entry draft (June-Reg)

Transactions: [Jun 16,2004] - signed

bubbachunk
05-13-2008, 10:00 PM
Jerry has only 9 total games at shortstop. Do we really want someone that inexperienced at the most important infield position?

Kingspoint
05-13-2008, 10:01 PM
Fielding Glossary / Show/Hide Level Summary
Year Age Tm Lg Lvl Aff Pos G PO A E DP FP RFg PB
+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+----+----+----+----+-----+-----+---+
2005 22 DTN MWL A CIN SS 55 96 188 11 34 .963 5.16
2006 23 TOT SS 114 184 341 12 73 .978 4.61
DTN MWL A CIN SS 26 41 74 3 19 .975 4.42
SAR FSL A+ CIN SS 84 135 251 9 51 .977 4.60
CNG SOU AA CIN SS 4 8 16 0 3 1.000 6.00
2007 24 TOT SS 123 155 364 19 69 .965 4.22
CNG SOU AA CIN SS 68 93 205 8 37 .974 4.38
2B 13 21 33 2 7 .964 4.15
3B 6 4 14 0 1 1.000 3.00
LOU INT AAA CIN SS 55 62 159 11 32 .953 4.02
2008 25 LOU INT AAA CIN SS 32 61 80 3 13 .979 4.41
2B 1 2 2 0 1 1.000 4.00
+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+----+----+----+----+-----+-----+---+
Level Totals A SS 81 137 262 14 53 .966 4.93
A+ SS 84 135 251 9 51 .977 4.60
AA SS 72 101 221 8 40 .976 4.47
2B 13 21 33 2 7 .964 4.15
3B 6 4 14 0 1 1.000 3.00
AAA SS 87 123 239 14 45 .963 4.16
2B 1 2 2 0 1 1.000 4.00
+-----------------+---+-------+----+----+----+----+----+-----+-----+---+
Position Totals SS 324 496 973 45 189 .970 4.53
2B 14 23 35 2 8 .967 4.14
3B 6 4 14 0 1 1.000 3.00
+-----------------+-----------+----+----+----+----+----+-----+-----+---+
Overall Totals 344 523 1022 47 198 .970 4.49 0

_Sir_Charles_
05-13-2008, 10:51 PM
Marty just now said that Janish was told he's coming up. No "official" announcement yet though.

ChatterRed
05-14-2008, 01:36 AM
Cool. Unless something miraculous happens, otherwise, this season is lost. Let's see what we got. We'll be losing Dunn and Junior either this year or at the end of the season. No reason not to try the young guys.

Homer Bailey
05-14-2008, 03:04 AM
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/J/Paul-Janish.shtml

mlbfan30
05-14-2008, 03:18 AM
Janish is a good option. He'll help a lot in defense, but also has shown some OBP skills. The loss of Keppenger hurts, but it's not the difference between a winning and losing team.

ChatterRed
05-14-2008, 08:31 AM
Janish is a good option. He'll help a lot in defense, but also has shown some OBP skills. The loss of Keppenger hurts, but it's not the difference between a winning and losing team.

......uh.......when you're hurting for offense, saying that the loss of your best hitter (in my opinion) won't make a difference in wins and losses doesn't make much sense to me.

Kepp has been very solid and one of the top 3 key components to this team scoring at all.

Ghosts of 1990
05-14-2008, 08:34 AM
Janish will be like having 2 pitchers bat... hopefully he's perfect defensively. Would still rather call up Bruce and go with Hairston at SS everyday. I'm biased.

bubbachunk
05-14-2008, 09:34 AM
Janish will be like having 2 pitchers bat... hopefully he's perfect defensively. Would still rather call up Bruce and go with Hairston at SS everyday. I'm biased.

Then your only backup shortstop would be Ryan Freel... eww

Rounding Third
05-14-2008, 09:35 AM
I don't want to see the lineup start out like this for the next couple months

Patterson
Hairston
Junior

Give me Janish and let him start. I don't want Hairston at shortstop.

Could be worse, were is Nefi Perez?

FreelFanatic
05-14-2008, 10:05 AM
It's unofficially official:

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080514/SPORTS/805140922/1002/SPORTS

I(heart)Freel
05-14-2008, 10:54 AM
Jerry has only 9 total games at shortstop. Do we really want someone that inexperienced at the most important infield position?

Worth noting that Keppinger wasn't a true shortstop last July when he got the nod to replace AGon.

Hmm.

Also worth noting that, like Kepp, Hairston came through college as a shortstop.

Hmm.

I know the writing's on the wall for Janish, and I wish him well, but I totally woulda used this opportunity for a Bruce callup.

TheBigLebowski
05-14-2008, 11:14 AM
I like it. Slick glove albeit an average bat. Hate to lose Keppinger but I think Janish will do fine until JK returns.

HeatherC1212
05-14-2008, 11:50 AM
It's official now. Janish up, Kepp to DL.

http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/redsinsider/2008/05/keppinger-janish.asp

bubbachunk
05-14-2008, 12:35 PM
Worth noting that Keppinger wasn't a true shortstop last July when he got the nod to replace AGon.

Hmm.

Also worth noting that, like Kepp, Hairston came through college as a shortstop.

Hmm.

I know the writing's on the wall for Janish, and I wish him well, but I totally woulda used this opportunity for a Bruce callup.

Kepp had proven himself as a consistent hitter by then, there is your difference

mlbfan30
05-14-2008, 01:23 PM
......uh.......when you're hurting for offense, saying that the loss of your best hitter (in my opinion) won't make a difference in wins and losses doesn't make much sense to me.

Kepp has been very solid and one of the top 3 key components to this team scoring at all.

Keppenger is a below average SS. He might even be close to around -1 to -1.5 Wins in defense. While Janish is at the very worst average, but most like +.5 to +1 Wins.

So being conservative, Janish is worth 1.5 more Wins on defense. Keppenger might be 2.5 to 3 Wins better on offense.

Overall Keppenger is better obviously, but over the entire season maybe only 1.5 Wins at best. 1.5 Wins doesn't really matter this year considering the team we have. If anything, it'll help us get a better draft pick next year.

757690
05-14-2008, 01:34 PM
Keppenger is a below average SS. He might even be close to around -1 to -1.5 Wins in defense. While Janish is at the very worst average, but most like +.5 to +1 Wins.

So being conservative, Janish is worth 1.5 more Wins on defense. Keppenger might be 2.5 to 3 Wins better on offense.

Overall Keppenger is better obviously, but over the entire season maybe only 1.5 Wins at best. 1.5 Wins doesn't really matter this year considering the team we have. If anything, it'll help us get a better draft pick next year.

Also to back your point, Kepp is a single hitter, so most of his value is in his OBP, of which Jarnish has a decent history. I think .355 lifetime in the minors.

They're really won't be that much of a difference offensively between the two. I'd say less than 2 wins.

Kepp is definitely a better choice, but not by a huge margin.

I think psychologically, it will have more of an effect than in actual stats.

Rounding Third
05-14-2008, 01:37 PM
Also to back your point, Kepp is a single hitter, so most of his value is in his OBP, of which Jarnish has a decent history. I think .355 lifetime in the minors.

They're really won't be that much of a difference offensively between the two. I'd say less than 2 wins.

Kepp is definitely a better choice, but not by a huge margin.

I think psychologically, it will have more of an effect than in actual stats.

Ichiro is a singles hitter as well, its not a bad thing.

Kingspoint
05-14-2008, 04:44 PM
Also to back your point, Kepp is a single hitter, so most of his value is in his OBP


Keppinger leads the team in RBI's despite not batting from an RBI position. He's a lot more than a OBP value player to this team.

His BA with RISP is around .450.

Lockdwn11
05-14-2008, 04:48 PM
Ichiro is a singles hitter as well, its not a bad thing.

I don't recall anyone saying it was a bad thing but I will add that Keppinger is not on Ichiro's level

757690
05-14-2008, 04:59 PM
Keppinger leads the team in RBI's despite not batting from an RBI position. He's a lot more than a OBP value player to this team.

His BA with RISP is around .450.

Agree that Kepp's clutch bat will be missed, but if the he had played a full season and led the team in RBI's, then this season would not have mattered. No way this team contends with Kepp being the team's RBI guy, he should be an OBP value player and any RBI's he gets are gravy. The fact that he is the main RBI guys says volumes about why this team has struggled.

Kingspoint
05-14-2008, 05:24 PM
Agree that Kepp's clutch bat will be missed, but if the he had played a full season and led the team in RBI's, then this season would not have mattered. No way this team contends with Kepp being the team's RBI guy, he should be an OBP value player and any RBI's he gets are gravy. The fact that he is the main RBI guys says volumes about why this team has struggled.

So, true. With Keppinger on pace for 84 RBI's and that's leading the team....that's sad.

On a positive note, those last two RBI's by Dunn were some of the best at-bats I've ever seen from him, and Junior's been hitting well the last few games.

HeatherC1212
05-14-2008, 10:55 PM
OK, after watching the game tonight, I think Janish may stick around for a while! He played great in the field, had a GREAT first mlb hit, and a great ending to a crazy up and down night, LOL :jump:

CarolinaRedleg
05-14-2008, 11:00 PM
Good debut anyway.:thumbup:

Jack Burton
05-14-2008, 11:38 PM
Nice to see this kid get the game winner tonight, congrats fella. He's got more clutch hits this year than Dunn and Griffey combined.

goreds2
05-14-2008, 11:47 PM
Nice to see this kid get the game winner tonight, congrats fella. He's got more clutch hits this year than Dunn and Griffey combined.

He also "went with the pitch".

fugowitribe
05-15-2008, 12:07 AM
Nice to see this kid get the game winner tonight, congrats fella. He's got more clutch hits this year than Dunn and Griffey combined.

Doesn't Griffey have a game winning single?

Degenerate39
05-15-2008, 06:25 AM
Doesn't Griffey have a game winning single?

Yes he does. And the team wouldn't have won the last few games if it wasn't for Griffey and Dunn getting some important RBIs.

schmidty622
05-15-2008, 08:06 AM
Maybe this will build some confidence for the guy, turn him into a major leaguer. Who knows maybe he'll be one of those guys that was solid as a minor leaguer but when he comes up he has another level. I doubt it but it could happen.

Jack Burton
05-15-2008, 11:42 AM
Obviously I was joking about having more clutch hits than Griff and Dunn.....but honestly, he's not far behind. :redszone:

Maldez
05-15-2008, 03:45 PM
I think until Hairston cools off we're only going to see Janish come into games late for defense. Dusty likes that hot stick Hairston is swingin' and I can't balne him.

BTW, did anybody else catch the knee that Freel threw into Janish to give him the bloody nose? What a little maniac.

bleacherbum
05-15-2008, 06:09 PM
what a thrill for that young man!

gilpdawg
05-15-2008, 08:15 PM
nevermind