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AtomicDumpling
05-15-2008, 03:29 AM
Adam Dunn hit his 7th homer of the season and 245th of his career today. That moves him into a tie for 194th place on the all-time list with Deron Johnson and Mickey Tettleton.

If you are wondering "Who the heck is Deron Johnson" you are not alone.

Next up on the list at #193 is Ken Singleton, who retired with 246 career home runs.

Deron Johnson - Played Until Age: 37 Career HR: 245 Career AB: 5941 AB/HR: 24.2
Johnson was actually a former Cincinnati Red who played 16 years in the majors with 8 different teams: Yankees, Athletics, Reds, Braves, Phillies, Brewers, Red Sox and White Sox. Even though he played until 1976 I still don't remember him at all. He played for the Reds for 4 years in the 1960's including the year he led the NL in RBIs in 1965.

Mickey Tettleton - Played Until Age: 37 Career HR: 245 Career AB: 4698 AB/HR: 19.2
Tettleton played 14 seasons for the Athletics, Orioles, Tigers and Rangers. He was known as one of the best hitting catchers of his era. He made the All-Star team twice. He was similar to Dunn in batting style because he had a low batting average, struck out a lot, walked a lot and hit a lot of home runs. Tettleton was recognized by his unusual batting stance: he stood almost straight up at the plate, bending only when the pitcher began his delivery. He was also distinguished by the huge wad of chewing tobacco he kept in his cheek during games, as well as his claim that Froot Loops were the source of his hitting power and kept monkey balls in his back pocket for good luck.

Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 245 Career AB: 3475 AB/HR: 14.2


Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
244 Hack Wilson, Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella, Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente, Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill

I will leave it up to Big Klu to post Dunn's ranks among the Reds' all-time team leaders because Dunn's homer today was a big milestone.

Here is a photo of today's home run #245 of Adam Dunn's career:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080515/capt.210b1fb00dde4b81a6456a24ea05dfad.marlins_reds _baseball_csb113.jpg

Ron Madden
05-15-2008, 04:05 AM
Bill DeWitt thought Frank Robinson was "an old 30" and that Deron Johnson could pick up the slack if he traded Robinson to Baltimore for Milt Pappas.


It was a bad move.

;)

RedsBaron
05-15-2008, 07:35 AM
Bill DeWitt thought Frank Robinson was "an old 30" and that Deron Johnson could pick up the slack if he traded Robinson to Baltimore for Milt Pappas.


It was a bad move.

;)

Exactly. Johnson had a terrific season in 1965, hitting .287 with 32 HRs and a major league leading 130 RBI. He finished 4th in the NL MVP voting that year, when he was only 26 years old. He slumped in 1966. In 1967 the Reds tried moving him from third base to the outfield, without success, and he was traded after the 1967 season. Johnson died in 1992, only age 53.

Big Klu
05-15-2008, 07:44 AM
Dunn is also now in sole possession of fifth place on the Reds home run list, passing George Foster.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. Adam Dunn - 245
6. George Foster - 244
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 199
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

AtomicDumpling
05-15-2008, 03:03 PM
Thanks for the updates on Deron Johnson guys. He seems like a guy I should be familiar with, but for whatever reason I hadn't heard of him before. I didn't become a Reds fan until 1981 when I was 12, but I familiar with Reds history back to 1970 or so.

Well it looks like Adam Dunn could move into 3rd place in Reds history this season by passing Ted Kluszewski and Tony Perez. That is pretty impressive at the age of only 28.

OnBaseMachine
05-15-2008, 03:09 PM
Well it looks like Adam Dunn could move into 3rd place in Reds history this season by passing Ted Kluszewski and Tony Perez. That is pretty impressive at the age of only 28.

Dunn would have to hit 50 homeruns this season to move into third place, and with the slow start he's off to, I don't see him hitting that many. He'll probably hit 40-42 this season and finish with around 280 career homeruns. If he's signed to a LTC then he should move into third place and maybe even second place next season and then maybe become the greatest homerun hitter in Reds history sometime in 2011.

AtomicDumpling
05-17-2008, 03:27 AM
Adam Dunn hit his 8th homer of the season and #246 of his career on Friday.

That moves him into a tie for 193rd place on the all-time list with Ken Singleton.

Dunn's big blast traveled down the right field line and hit at the very back of the visitor's bullpen, almost going completely out of the stadium.

Here is a photo of Dunn's homer #246:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080517/capt.f5f0b716c6624d5fb0464761d63de96e.indians_reds _baseball_csb101.jpg

Next up on the list at #191 are Matt Stairs and Vern Stephens, who both have 247 career home runs. I have never heard of Vern Stephens, so I will look him up and post his bio when Dunn catches him. Stairs is an active player with the Blue Jays.

Ken Singleton - Played Until Age: 38 Career HR: 246 Career AB: 7189 AB/HR: 29.2
Singleton played 15 seasons with the Mets, Expos and Orioles in the 70's and 80's. He was an outfielder/DH and made the All Star team three times. His highest finish in MVP balloting was in 1979, when he finished 2nd to Don Baylor. He was third in 1977, behind Al Cowens and the winner Rod Carew. Singleton was the 3rd overall pick of the draft in 1967. He is currently a broadcaster for the Yankees.

Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 246 Career AB: 3475 AB/HR: 14.1
Dunn is #37 amongst active players in career homers. The only one ahead of him that is younger is Albert Pujols (2 months younger) with 290 dingers. Of the 36 active players ahead of Adam Dunn on the list only 4 have hit more homers than Dunn so far this season:
Lance Berkman (age 32) 15 homers this season, 274 career
Chipper Jones (age 36) 11 homers this season, 397 career
Derrek Lee (age 32) 10 homers this season, 248 career
Carlos Lee (age 31) 9 homers this season, 262 career
Adam Dunn (age 28) 8 homers this season, 246 career

Here are Dunn's all-time ranks in other stats:

#6 in AB/HR with 14.14
#64 in OPS with .896
#163 in Ks with 1126
#193 in HRs with 246
#320 in BBs with 705
#728 in RBIs with 594
#827 in Runs with 639
#838 in Total Bases with 1795
#1041 in 2B with 182
#1196 in SB with 58
#1381 in Hits with 859
#3156 in 3B with 8

With a couple more quick homers Dunn could pass Ralph Kiner and move into 5th place in career AB/HR ratio. Kiner finished at 14.11 in his career. Only McGwire, Ruth, Bonds and Thome are better.

I won't be able to easily get his ranks in OBP and AVG until he gets 5000 ABs. I was only able to get OPS because he is in the top 100. Maybe there is a better site to find that information than mlb.com -- anybody have a good source for such data?


Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson, Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella, Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente, Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill

Big Klu
05-17-2008, 03:50 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. Adam Dunn - 246
6. George Foster - 244
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 199
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

RedsBaron
05-17-2008, 08:09 AM
Next up on the list at #191 are Matt Stairs and Vern Stephens, who both have 247 career home runs. I have never heard of Vern Stephens, so I will look him up and post his bio when Dunn catches him.

Vern Stephens was a terrific player in the 1940s and an eight-time all star shortstop. He came up with the St. Louis Browns and was a member of the 1944 Browns team that won its only AL pennant (they lost the World Series to their home town rival Cardinals). As noted by his playing in 1944, Stephens didn't serve in the military in World War II. He lead the AL in RBI in 1944 with 109 and in HRs in 1945 with 24.
Stephens was acquired by the Boston Red Sox prior to the 1948 season. His triple crown stats for his first three seasons as a Red Sox were loaded:
.269 29 137
.290 39 159
.295 30 144
Despite those fantastic power numbers for a shortstop, Stephens' reputation as a shortstop was severely harmed by the Red Sox' late season failures in 1948-50. In 1948 Boston lost a one game playoff against Cleveland for the AL title. In 1949, having a one game lead over the Yankees, Boston lost the final two games of the season, both against New York, and the pennant. In 1950, despite a late season rally, Boston again fell short to the Yankees.
Even though Stephens had tied for the AL RBI lead in both 1949 and 1950, giving him three RBI crowns for his career, it became conventional wisdom that he was inferior to the Yankees shortstop, Phil Rizzuto, who did the "little things" (at the time Stephens was knocking in nearly 100 more runs a season than the "Scooter").
Stephens faded quickly after 1950, when he was only age 29. He never again had a 400 at bat season. He finished his career with a .286 average, 247 HRs, 1174 RBI, a .355 OBP and a .460 S.PCT.
Stephens, born October 23, 1920, died November 3, 1968, age 48.
Of the ten hitters most comparable to Stephens in baseball history, four are in the Hall of Fame: Gabby Hartnett, Tony Lazzeri, Bobby Doerr and Bill Dickey. Two others are near Hall of Famers: Joe Gordon and Joe Torre. His Hall of Fame Monitor score is only 75, primarily because of his short career.

coachw513
05-17-2008, 12:50 PM
You mean Rizzuto had that veteran scrapiness :)...

FWIW, thanks for a fascinating, informative thread...

AtomicDumpling
05-18-2008, 03:56 AM
Adam Dunn's walkoff blast on Saturday was #247 of his career and moves him into a tie for 191st place on the all-time career home run list. He is tied with Matt Stairs and Vern Stephens.

Next up on the list at 188th place with 248 career homers are Goose Goslin, Ted Simmons and Derrek Lee.

Dunn's blast today was the 6th walk-off home run of his young career. Compare that to Ken Griffey Jr's total of 7 game ending hits (of any type). Dunn has certainly had more than his share of critical clutch homers.

Todays #247 almost went out of the stadium and into the river. A fan in the very top row of the sun deck snagged the ball on the fly and kept it in Ohio.

This is a photo of Dunn hitting the clutch shot:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080517/capt.e6e2a64d0e184b6eb46ea61049fb66d4.indians_reds _baseball_ohtu105.jpg

And here are his teammates beating the crap out of him in celebration of his heroics:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080517/capt.b1d1fb74bbcc4530a4567e7201be19f8.indians_reds _baseball_ohtu108.jpg

Vern Stephens - Played Until Age: 34 Career HR: 247 Career AB: 6497 AB/HR: 26.3
Stephens played 15 seasons with the Browns, Red Sox, White Sox and Orioles in the 40's and 50's. He made the All Star team 8 times. See two posts up in this thread for lots more interesting information on Stephens as posted by RedsBaron.

Matt Stairs - Current Age: 40 Career HR: 247 Career AB: 4717 AB/HR: 19.1
Stairs is an active player currently with the Blue Jays. He has also played as an outfielder and DH for many teams -- Expos, Red Sox, Athletics, Cubs, Brewers, Pirates, Royals, Rangers, Tigers and now the Blue Jays. He is a rare player originally from Canada (like our Joey Votto) and played on the Canadian Olympic team in 1988. He has never made the All Star team. Stairs spent his prime years with the Athletics when they were loaded with players like Rickey Henderson, Mark McGwire, Jose Canseco, Miguel Tejada, Jason Giambi and Eric Chavez so he never really got the playing time he would have received with any other team. The most ABs he ever had in a season was 531, so his fans are left to wonder what might have been if he had ever been an everyday player.

Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 246 Career AB: 3479 AB/HR: 14.08
Dunn has now hit a home run in the last three games and has nine for the season. He has really started to heat up and has been carrying the team in the current winning streak against 1st-place teams. Dunn's 9 homers and 25 RBI both lead the team and he is now on a pace to hit 34 HRs and 94 RBIs this season. Maybe Marty will get off his back now. Yeah, right.

In his career Adam Dunn has hit a home run every 14.08 at-bats, which is the 5th best ratio in major league history behind Mark McGwire, Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds and Jim Thome. Dunn passed Ralph Kiner today with the walk-off blast.


Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson, Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella, Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente, Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill

Big Klu
05-18-2008, 09:28 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. Adam Dunn - 247
6. George Foster - 244
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 199
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

GAC
05-18-2008, 09:35 AM
Where's the pics of Adam trying to bunt? :lol:

AtomicDumpling
05-19-2008, 12:46 AM
Adam Dunn's home run on Sunday was #248 of his career and moves him into a tie for 188th place on the all-time career home run list. He is tied with Goose Goslin, Ted Simmons and Derrek Lee.

Next up on the list at 187th place with 249 career homers is Jose Valentin, Javier's brother.

Dunn's blast today was his 4th homer in the last 4 games. If you are going to be in the right field seats any time soon you'd better bring your glove. Dunn is really swinging a hot bat lately. In fact he has been carrying the team during the winning streak.

Here is today's shot off AL ERA leader Cliff Lee:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080518/capt.7c6620ab677b4e579e358d04a8991df5.indians_reds _baseball_ohtu107.jpg


Here are some bios of the players Adam Dunn caught with today's homer:

Goose Goslin - Played Until Age: 38 Career HR: 248 Career AB: 8656 AB/HR: 34.9
Goslin played 18 seasons as a left fielder with the Senators, Browns and Tigers in the 20's and 30's. He made the All Star team 1 time but most of his career was played before the 1st All Star Game. He finished his career with a .316 BA and 1609 RBIs. He was elected to the Hall of Fame in 1968. Goslin’s difficulty in judging fly balls contributed to his nickname "Goose." Opposing players said Goslin resembled a bird flapping its wings when he ran after a ball with his arms waving. From Wikipedia: "The 1928 batting title was not decided until the last day of the season. Goslin and Heinie Manush of the Browns were tied going into the final game, and the Senators and Browns played each other in the final game. Goslin was leading Manush when his turn came to bat in the ninth inning. If Goslin made an out, he would lose the batting crown. In Lawrence Ritter's 1966 oral history, "The Glory of Their Times," Goslin described the events that followed. Manager Bucky Harris left the decision to Goslin on whether to bat or sit. Goslin decided to sit and take the batting crown, but his teammates (particularly Joe Judge) goaded him that he would appear yellow if he didn't bat. Goslin was persuaded to bat and promptly took two strikes. At that point, Goslin recalled that he unsuccessfully tried to get ejected from the game, as the at bat would then disappear. Goslin began berating the home plate umpire about the strike calls, only to have the umpire tell him that he was not going to get ejected, and wasn't going to get a walk, so he better step back up and swing. Goslin ended up with what he called a "lucky hit" to beat Manush by a fraction of a point." He was traded for Manush the following season. Goslin ranks in the all-time top 50 in each of these categories: batting average, slugging percentage, total bases, hits, extra-base hits, RBIs, doubles and triples. He was certainly one of the best players ever. Dunn has already passed him in homers at the age of 28.

Ted Simmons - Played Until Age: 39 Career HR: 248 Career AB: 8680 AB/HR: 35.0
Simmons played 21 seasons as a catcher and DH with the Cardinals, Brewers and Braves in the 60's, 70's and 80's. He made the All Star team 8 times. Simmons was one of the best offensive catchers of his era. He served as GM of the Pirates for two years but left after he suffered a heart attack and is now the bench coach of the Brewers.

Derrek Lee - Current Age: 32 Career HR: 248 Career AB: 5002 AB/HR: 20.2
Lee is an active player currently with the Cubs. He has also been a first baseman for the Padres and Marlins. He has made the All Star team twice, won three Gold Glove awards and won the 2005 batting title. Lee and Dunn have both hit 10 home runs this season and began the season tied at #209 on the all-time list with 238 homers.

Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 248 Career AB: 3485 AB/HR: 14.05
Dunn has 10 homers on the season, including 4 in the last 4 games. He has raised his OPS from .739 to .845 in the last 4 games. He now leads the team in RBIs, HRs, BBs and is 4th in Runs Scored despite being only 5th on the team in plate appearances.

Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson, Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella, Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente, Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill

Big Klu
05-19-2008, 01:06 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. Adam Dunn - 248
6. George Foster - 244
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 199
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

AtomicDumpling
05-19-2008, 07:10 PM
Here are Dunn's all-time ranks in other stats:

#5 in AB/HR with 14.05
#62 in SLG% with .5177
#65 in OPS with .898
#161 in Ks with 1127
#162 in OBP with .380
#188 in HRs with 248
#320 in BBs with 706
#721 in RBIs with 598
#821 in Runs with 641
#829 in Total Bases with 1804
#1041 in 2B with 182
#1196 in SB with 58
#1291 in ABs with 3485
#1379 in Hits with 862
#3157 in 3B with 8

There have been a total of 16,766 players in MLB history.

Not bad at all considering he is only 28 years old.

I was surprised to notice that Dunn actually has scored more runs than he has driven in. People tend to think of him as an RBI guy, but he is also a prolific run scorer due to his very high on-base percentage. It is a strong argument for moving him up to the #2 or #3 slot in the lineup.

I couldn't get a rank for batting average because Dunn is not in the top 1000 and hasn't reached 5000 ABs yet.

The stats show that Dunn is way ahead of an average pace in almost every stat. Dunn ranks only #1291 in at-bats, but is ranked much higher in most other categories. It all depends on how long he plays of course, but if Dunn ends up with 7000 or more ABs he could easily rank in the top 50-100 in most of the major categories like HRs, RBIs, Runs, BBs, Ks, TBs, OBP and SLG%. Those numbers would be Hall of Fame worthy, but because sports writers still tend to put a lot of emphasis on old-fashioned stats like batting average Dunn likely won't have a strong shot at induction. His defense and the fact he plays in a small, midwestern town won't help his chances either.

macro
05-19-2008, 09:22 PM
Lotsa interesting stuff in this thread. Thanks for sharing the research, Atomic. (I originally was going to call you "Dumpling", but that sounded a bit too...too...sweet? :laugh:

I updated the thread title for you, BTW.

AtomicDumpling
05-19-2008, 11:33 PM
Lotsa interesting stuff in this thread. Thanks for sharing the research, Atomic. (I originally was going to call you "Dumpling", but that sounded a bit too...too...sweet? :laugh:

I updated the thread title for you, BTW.

Thanks for the comments and the updated title.

You have to buy me dinner before you can call me "Dumpling".:p:

AtomicDumpling
05-20-2008, 03:36 AM
Adam Dunn's home run on Monday was #249 of his career and moves him into a tie for 187th place on the all-time career home run list. He is tied with Jose Valentin.

Next up on the list at 183rd place with 251 career homers are Tony Armas, Robin Yount, Cy Williams and Alfonso Soriano. Nobody currently has 250 homers, so Dunn will have to hit two dingers before catching anybody else.

It seems like I have been updating this thread every day with a new group of players that Dunn has passed. It seems that way because it is that way. Dunn's blast today was his 5th homer in the last 5 games, which ties a Reds team record. He now shares the franchise mark with Ted Kluszewski (1954), Johnny Bench (1972) and teammate Ken Griffey Jr. (2003). The major league record of 8 consecutive games with a homer is shared by Dale Long, Don Mattingly and Griffey, whose 8 game streak came with the Seattle Mariners.

Here is Monday's "Adam Bomb" against Brad Penny of the Dodgers:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080520/capt.526bb1205fa747a7b9c0b7b7ba4f0fbf.reds_dodgers _baseball_cadm104.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080520/capt.b0563ce08e43452e9052415019d9fd86.reds_dodgers _baseball_cadm106.jpg

Here is a bio of the player Adam Dunn caught with today's homer:

Jose Valentin - Played Until Age: 38 Career HR: 249 Career AB: 5539 AB/HR: 22.2
Valentin played 16 seasons as a shortstop and second baseman with the Brewers, White Sox, Dodgers and Mets. He is still under contract with the Mets but has not played this season. In 1992 as a minor leaguer he was traded from the Padres to the Brewers for Gary Sheffield. Jose is the older brother of the Reds' Javier Valentin.

Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 249 Career AB: 3489 AB/HR: 14.01
Dunn has 11 homers on the season, including 5 in the last 5 games. He has raised his OPS from .739 to .872 in the last 5 games. The hot streak has gotten Adam back on his normal production schedule. He is on a pace to hit 40 home runs, 107 RBI, 81 Runs, and 114 walks. Over the last four seasons he has averaged 42 homers, 100 RBI, 103 Runs and 109 walks.


Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
248 Goose Goslin, Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson, Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella, Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente, Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill

Big Klu
05-20-2008, 08:00 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. Adam Dunn - 249
6. George Foster - 244
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 199
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

redsmetz
05-20-2008, 09:56 AM
The way Dunner's going right now, he could pass Big Klu before the week is out!

Cyclone792
05-20-2008, 10:27 AM
Just want to stop in and say really great thread, Atomic. All the info about various players Dunn is passing up is fantastic. It looks like Dunn's already eclipsed five Hall of Famers this year in HR totals, and it's only May.

WMR
05-20-2008, 10:45 AM
Just want to stop in and say really great thread, Atomic. All the info about various players Dunn is passing up is fantastic. It looks like Dunn's already eclipsed five Hall of Famers this year in HR totals, and it's only May.

I'll second that. This is a sweet, sweet thread. Really nice work.

AtomicDumpling
05-21-2008, 02:06 AM
Thanks for the nice comments Cyclone792 and WilyMoROCKS. I am glad the effort is appreciated.

Since you mentioned the number of Hall of Famers Adam Dunn has passed this season I will indicate them on the list henceforth. Good idea. Hopefully I will be updating it frequently!

Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

buckeyenut
05-21-2008, 08:30 AM
No home run last night. Dunn's a bum! ;)

cincyinco
05-22-2008, 07:21 AM
I'll third the sentiments... I often skipped these posts in the past as I thought it was a plain Jane thread tracking his HOUR totals which I could just look up easily. I gave it another shot and was surprised at all the awesome info contained within. Its now one of my favorite threads.

AtomicDumpling
05-26-2008, 02:56 AM
Adam Dunn's home run on Sunday was #251 of his career and moves him into a tie for 184th place on the all-time career home run list. He is tied with Robin Yount, Cy Williams and Tony Armas.

Next up on the list at 180th place with 252 career homers are Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer and Alfonso Soriano.

The homer was the 5th time Dunn has taken future Hall of Famer Greg Maddux deep. Here are the pitchers that Adam has victimized most often:
6 homers vs. Carlos Zambrano, Kevin Millwood and Glendon Rusch
5 homers vs. Greg Maddux, Mark Mulder, Kerry Wood, Woody Williams
4 homers vs. Josh Fogg
3 homers vs. Roy Oswalt, Tomo Ohka, Oliver Perez and Wayne Franklin

Looks like Dunn has hit very well against some of the best pitchers in the game, eh? Josh Fogg is not surprising though.

Sunday's home run was also a big milestone in Cincinnati Reds history. I will let Big Klu post that information.

Here is Sunday's "Adam Bomb" #251 off Greg Maddux:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080525/capt.60d32128308b44059e12518198a04b44.reds_padres_ baseball_cacl109.jpg

Here are some bios for the former great players that Dunn caught today:

Robin Yount - Played Until Age: 38 Career HR: 251 Career AB: 11,008 AB/HR: 43.9
Yount played all 20 of his seasons with the Brewers. He played many years as a shortstop, but later moved to centerfield. He debuted in the majors at age 18 and holds the record for most games played as a teenager. Yount made the All Star team 3 times and was the AL MVP twice (1982 and 1989). Of course the Brewers were still in the American League back then. Yount is one of four players to have won the MVP award at two different positions (Hank Greenberg, Stan Musial and Alex Rodriguez are the others). He is a member of the Hall of Fame.


Cy Williams - Played Until Age: 42 Career HR: 251 Career AB: 6780 AB/HR: 27.0
Williams played 19 seasons as an outfielder with the Cubs and Phillies. From 1915 through 1927 Williams was one of the National League's most prolific sluggers, winning or sharing four home run titles and finishing among the league's top three in homers 11 times. An architecture student at Notre Dame, Williams was a collegiate sprinter and hurdler and played football with Knute Rockne. Yet it was as a strong-hitting centerfielder that he gained the attention of the Cubs, who brought him directly to the majors after his graduation. Williams tied New York's Dave Robertson for the NL lead with 12 HR in 1916. Nevertheless, in one of the worst deals in Cubs history, he was traded to Philadelphia for 36-year-old Dode Paskert. Williams starred for the Phillies. His dead-pull, lefthanded stroke was ideally suited to Baker Bowl. It was for Williams that the first infield overshift was created; managers would load up the right side with fielders, knowing it was unlikely he would hit the ball to left. Of course we often see teams do that to Griffey, but apparently it is nothing new. Williams's 15 homers in 1920 won him his second crown. In 1923 he hit 41, 19 more than the NL runner-up, and tied Babe Ruth for the ML lead. He shared his last title with Chicago's Hack Wilson, hitting 30 in 1927. He hit 12 inside-the-park homers and seven grand slams. His 11 pinch homers were a record until 1960. From 1918 through his last season, he raised his career batting average every year. He topped the .300 mark six times, with a high of .345 in 1926. In each of his first 14 seasons, Williams played for a different manager, including Tinker, Evers, and Chance.


Tony Armas - Played Until Age: 36 Career HR: 251 Career AB: 5164 AB/HR: 20.6
Armas played 14 seasons as an outfielder with the Pirates, Athletics, Red Sox and Angels. He made the All Star team twice, led the AL in homers twice and led the AL in RBIs once. He holds the record for putouts in a game by a right fielder with 11. Armas' brother Marcos played with the A's in 1993 and his son Tony Armas Jr. is a major league pitcher.


Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 251 Career AB: 3505 AB/HR: 13.96
In the last 11 games Dunn has hit 7 homers with 13 RBIs and 11 Runs Scored. He also raised his batting average from .203 to .252 and his OPS from .739 to .954. He now leads the team in RBIs, HRs, BBs, OBP, and SLG -- and is 2nd in Runs Scored despite being only 4th on the team in plate appearances. Dunn is on a pace for 41 home runs, 102 RBIs, 89 Runs and 121 BBs.


Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
251 Robin Yount (HOF), Cy Williams, Tony Armas
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

Adam Dunn has passed 6 Hall of Famers this season.

Big Klu
05-26-2008, 12:13 PM
Adam Dunn's homer on Sunday ties him with Ted Kluszewski for fourth place on the Reds all-time home run list with 251. Dunn also ties Big Klu for the club record in career homers by a left-handed hitter.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
4. Adam Dunn - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 200
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

AtomicDumpling
05-26-2008, 07:09 PM
In my last post I listed the pitchers that Adam Dunn has homered against the most. Apparently I left out a few that Dunn has homered against 3 times.

6 homers vs. Carlos Zambrano, Kevin Millwood and Glendon Rusch
5 homers vs. Greg Maddux, Mark Mulder, Kerry Wood, Woody Williams
4 homers vs. Josh Fogg
3 homers vs. Roy Oswalt, Tomo Ohka, Oliver Perez, Wayne Franklin, John Lieber, Brian Lawrence, Derrick Turnbow, Mike Bacsik,
2 homers vs 23 pitchers

Adam Dunn has also homered against the following Reds pitchers:
4 homers vs. Josh Fogg
2 homers vs. Kent Mercker
1 homer vs. Mike Lincoln
1 homer vs. David Weathers

The pitcher that Dunn has owned more than any other is Kevin Millwood. Dunn has faced Millwood 18 times and has 6 home runs and a 2.029 OPS.

Here are Dunn's stats against some notable pitchers:
The good:
0.921 OPS with 3 home runs in 69 PA vs. Roy Oswalt
0.976 OPS with 6 home runs in 69 PA vs. Carlos Zambrano
1.078 OPS with 5 home runs in 49 PA vs. Kerry Wood
0.905 OPS with 5 home runs in 47 PA vs. Greg Maddux
1.205 OPS with 4 home runs in 34 PA vs. Josh Fogg
1.033 OPS with 1 home runs in 30 PA vs. Tom Glavine
1.403 OPS with 5 home runs in 25 PA vs. Mark Mulder
1.125 OPS with 0 home runs in 24 PA vs. Roger Clemens
0.933 OPS with 1 home runs in 20 PA vs. Brad Lidge
2.029 OPS with 6 home runs in 18 PA vs. Kevin Millwood
0.833 OPS with 1 home runs in 15 PA vs. John Smoltz

The not so good:
0.542 OPS with 1 home runs in 52 PA vs. Matt Morris
0.523 OPS with 1 home runs in 39 PA vs. Ben Sheets
0.472 OPS with 0 home runs in 34 PA vs. Ray King
0.651 OPS with 2 home runs in 31 PA vs. Brad Penny
0.374 OPS with 1 home runs in 29 PA vs. Wade Miller
0.542 OPS with 1 home runs in 28 PA vs. Chris Carpenter

Looks like Dunn has fared pretty well against the best pitchers. He has faced Oswalt and Zambrano more times than any other pitcher (69 PA vs each).

*BaseClogger*
05-26-2008, 07:12 PM
The not so good:
0.542 OPS with 1 home runs in 52 PA vs. Matt Morris
0.523 OPS with 1 home runs in 39 PA vs. Ben Sheets
0.472 OPS with 0 home runs in 34 PA vs. Ray King
0.651 OPS with 2 home runs in 31 PA vs. Brad Penny
0.374 OPS with 1 home runs in 29 PA vs. Wade Miller
0.542 OPS with 1 home runs in 28 PA vs. Chris Carpenter

and they are all known for having a really good deuce...

AtomicDumpling
05-28-2008, 02:37 AM
Adam Dunn's home run on Tuesday was #252 of his career and moves him into a tie for 180th place on the all-time career home run list. He is tied with Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer and Alfonso Soriano.

Next up on the list at 176th place with 253 career homers are Larry Doby, Joe Gordon, Andre Thornton and Todd Zeile.

Today's three-run blast from Dunn vaulted the Reds into the lead at 4-3. The ball landed in the second row from the top of the moon deck as Dunn almost left the stadium again. He has come close to hitting one literally out of the park several times already this year. Dunn now holds the all-time Reds record for home runs by a lefthanded batter, passing Ted Kluszewski.

Here is Tuesday's "Adam Bomb" #252 off Ian Snell:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080528/capt.5a4761d0fb1a4a46b113468fbe3fd337.pirates_reds _baseball_csb107.jpg

Here are some bios for the former great players that Dunn caught today:

Joe Torre - Played Until Age: 37 Career HR: 252 Career AB: 7874 AB/HR: 31.2
Torre played 18 seasons with the Braves, Cardinals and Mets as a catcher, 3B and 1B. He made the All Star team nine times and was the NL MVP in 1971 when he won the batting title and led the league in RBIs. He finished 2nd to Billy Williams in the 1961 Rookie of the Year voting. Torre's brother Frank also played for the Braves. Joe was traded from the Braves to the Cardinals for Orlando Cepeda in 1969. He has also been a long-time manager in the majors, with stints leading the Mets, Braves, Cardinals, Yankees and now the Dodgers.

Bret Boone - Played Until Age: 36 Career HR: 252 Career AB: 6683 AB/HR: 26.5
Boone played 14 seasons with the Mariners, Reds, Braves, Padres and Twins as a second baseman. He made the All Star team 3 times and won 4 Gold Gloves. He led the AL in RBIs in 2001 with the Mariners. Brett's grandfather Ray, father Bob and brother Aaron all had successful major league careers.

Bobby Murcer - Played Until Age: 37 Career HR: 252 Career AB: 6730 AB/HR: 26.7
Murcer played 17 seasons with the Yankees, Giants and Cubs as an outfielder. He missed the '67 and '68 seasons due to military service. He made the All Star team 5 times and won one Gold Glove. Murcer's first big league hit was a home run. He once homered in 4 consecutive plate appearances during a doubleheader. In 1975 he was traded for Giants star Bobby Bonds (Barry's father), and in 1977 he was traded to the Cubs for Bill Madlock. Murcer was later a Yankees broadcaster for two decades. On August 8, 1977, Murcer promised to try and hit a home run and a double for terminally ill fan Scott Crull who he had spoken to by phone. That night against the Pittsburgh Pirates, Murcer hit two home runs. Broadcasting the game nationally on ABC, Keith Jackson told the country how Murcer had fulfilled the dying boy’s last wish. However, no one had told the boy his illness was terminal. He only found out he was dying when he watched the game on TV. He died three weeks later.

The Gaylord Perry "Feud" from Wikipedia
Murcer was fined $250 on June 30, 1973, by baseball Commissioner Bowie Kuhn for saying Kuhn didn't have the "guts" to stop Hall of Fame pitcher Gaylord Perry from throwing the spitball. That night he hit a two-run homer off Perry that put the Yankees ahead in a 7-2 victory over the Cleveland Indians. Murcer made his original comment about Kuhn after Perry beat New York the previous week that ended the Yanks' eight-game winning streak. Kuhn said that Murcer apologized in his meeting with Murcer but Murcer refused to tell newsmen that he did and he "didn't sound too contrite". Murcer, who flung his right hand into the air when he rounded first after hitting the 'homer, said to reporters "I hit a hanging spitter," he quipped. For his career, Murcer hit Perry at a .232 clip with 2 home runs in 69 at bats. However, much of that low batting average was due to the 2 for 20 performance in the 1972 season which caused Murcer's ire in the first place. Aside from the abysmal 1972 summer he had against Perry, who won the AL Cy Young Award that year, Murcer hit .286 against Perry. Murcer had some fun with Gaylord; he once caught a fly for the last out of an inning and spit on the ball before tossing it to Perry. Another time he sent Perry a gallon of lard. Perry retaliated by having a mutual acquaintance cover his hand with grease before shaking hands with Murcer and saying "Gaylord says hello."

Alfonso Soriano - Current Age: 32 Career HR: 252 Career AB: 4631 AB/HR: 18.4
Soriano is an active player with the Cubs. He played previously with the Yankees, Rangers and Nationals. He began his career as a second baseman, but has played outfield since last year. His first major league hit was a walk-off homer against the Devil Rays. He owns the major league record for leadoff homers in a season with 13. Soriano has made the All Star team 6 times, including the year he was the MVP of the game after hitting a 3-run homer off Roger Clemens. In 2004 he was traded for Alex Rodriguez and $67 million! Soriano joins Jose Canseco, Barry Bonds and A-Rod as the only members of the 40-40 club (40 homers and 40 stolen bases). Soriano has 11 homers this season. This is the second time Dunn has caught him this year. After Dunn caught him last time, Soriano went on a homer binge but now Dunn has tied him again.

Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 252 Career AB: 3510 AB/HR: 13.92
In the last 12 games Dunn has hit 8 homers with 17 RBIs and 12 Runs Scored. He also raised his batting average from .203 to .256 and his OPS from .739 to .975. He now leads the team in RBIs, HRs, BBs, OBP, SLG and OPS -- and is 2nd in Runs Scored despite being only 4th on the team in plate appearances. Dunn is on a pace for 44 home runs, 112 RBIs, 90 Runs and 122 BBs with the highest OBP and OPS of his career.

Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
252 Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer, Alfonso Soriano
251 Robin Yount (HOF), Cy Williams, Tony Armas
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

Adam Dunn has passed 6 Hall of Famers this season.

Big Klu
05-28-2008, 02:50 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 252
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 200
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

fearofpopvol1
05-28-2008, 02:53 AM
I'm curious to see if he'll pass Perez this year. It is certainly possible.

AtomicDumpling
06-03-2008, 07:27 PM
Adam Dunn's home run on Sunday was #253 of his career and moves him into a tie for 177th place on the all-time career home run list. He is now tied with Larry Doby, Joe Gordon, Andre Thornton and Todd Zeile.

Next up on the list at 176th place with 254 career homers is Alfonso Soriano.

Here is Sunday's "Adam Bomb" #253 off Tim Hudson:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080601/capt.687d53f6af21414faae29c30ea26a404.braves_reds_ baseball_csb110.jpg

Here are some bios for the former great players that Dunn caught today:

Larry Doby - Played Until Age: 36 Career HR: 253 Career AB: 5348 AB/HR: 21.1
Doby played 13 seasons with the Indians, White Sox and Tigers as an outfielder. He also played for the Newark Eagles of the Negro Leagues and served in the Navy during WW2. He made the All Star team seven times and finished 2nd in the 1954 MVP balloting. He led the league in HRs and Runs in 1952, and led the league in HRs and RBIs in 1954. Doby was the second black player in the majors and the first in the AL. He was also the second black manager in the majors. He was selected to the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1998 by the Veterans Committee. He is one of five Hall-of-Famers to have grown up in Paterson New Jersey, though he was born elsewhere.

Joe Gordon - Played Until Age: 35 Career HR: 253 Career AB: 5707 AB/HR: 22.6
Gordon played 11 seasons with the Yankees and Indians as a second baseman. He made the All Star team 9 times and was the 1942 AL MVP (even though Ted Williams won the Triple Crown that year!). He was an excellent defensive player. He holds the AL second basemen's records for career HR (246) and HR in a season (32 in 1948). Gordon played in the 1939 World Series against the Reds. Gordon was the first manager of the Kansas City Royals and also managed the Indians, Tigers and Athletics. He was also involved in the only trade of managers when he was traded for Tigers skipper Jimmy Dykes.

Andre Thornton - Played Until Age: 38 Career HR: 253 Career AB: 5291 AB/HR: 20.9
Thornton played 14 seasons with the Cubs, Expos and Indians as a 1B/DH. He made the All Star team 2 times. He played most of his career in a cavernous Cleveland stadium where it was difficult to hit home runs. Thornton finished his career with more bases on balls (876) than strikeouts (851).

Todd Zeile - Played Until Age: 39 Career HR: 253 Career AB: 7573 AB/HR: 29.9
Zeile played 16 seasons as a catcher, third baseman and first baseman with the Cardinals, Cubs, Phillies, Orioles, Dodgers, Marlins, Rangers, Mets, Rockies, Yankees and Expos -- 11 different teams! He never made the All Star team. Zeile hit at least one home run for each of the 11 teams he played for over the course of his career, distinguishing him as the one player in Major League history to hit a home run for more than 10 teams. He is also one of 41 players ever to hit a home run in his final at-bat, which he did on October 3, 2004 as a New York Met. Zeile's final home run also made him the last person ever to hit a home run against the Montreal Expos.

Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 253 Career AB: 3527 AB/HR: 13.9
Dunn's current OPS of .963 is higher than any season of his career. He is on pace to hit 42 HRs, 109 RBIs, 87 Runs and 126 BBs. Adam leads the Reds in HRs, RBIs, Walks, OBP, SLG and OPS. He is second in Runs Scored. He has done this even though three other players have more plate appearances (Phillips, Griffey and Encarnacion).

Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
253 Larry Doby (HOF), Joe Gordon, Andre Thornton, Todd Zeile
252 Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer, Alfonso Soriano
251 Robin Yount (HOF), Cy Williams, Tony Armas
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

Adam Dunn has passed 7 Hall of Famers this season.

Big Klu
06-03-2008, 08:30 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 253
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 201
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

TeamBoone
06-04-2008, 11:38 AM
I had not opened this thread until today and was soooo pleasantly surprised to see this wonderful accolade to my favorite Red. It is one of the most interesting/informative threads I've read in a long time.

Thank you so much for putting in the research time that something like this takes. I will now read it every time Adam hits a bomb.

WebScorpion
06-05-2008, 12:38 PM
I had not opened this thread until today and was soooo pleasantly surprised to see this wonderful accolade to my favorite Red. It is one of the most interesting/informative threads I've read in a long time.

Thank you so much for putting in the research time that something like this takes. I will now read it every time Adam hits a bomb.

I wholeheartedly agree! :thumbup: I love the little side-stories about the guys he's passing like Joe Gordon and Jimmie Dykes were the only managers ever traded for each other, and the Murcer-Gaylord Perry feud. Great stuff! Thank you!
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AtomicDumpling
06-14-2008, 03:36 AM
Adam Dunn's home run on Friday was #255 of his career and moves him into a tie for 174th place on the all-time career home run list. He is now tied with Kirk Gibson, John Mayberry and John Olerud.

Next up on the list at 170th place with 256 career homers are former Reds great Vada Pinson, Larry Parrish, Bob Allison and Alfonso Soriano.

Soriano and Dunn have been climbing the ladder on the same rungs all season. Soriano started three homers ahead of Dunn at the start of the season and Dunn has tied him three times already. Soriano has hit 15 homers this season compared to Dunn's 17. Now Soriano is one ahead on the all time list, but Dunn will likely move ahead of him permanently now that Soriano is on the DL for six weeks.

Friday's homer came off Beavercreek's Justin Masterson, who is a rookie with the Red Sox and is now the 180th pitcher that Dunn has homered against. It was the 81st go-ahead homer of Dunn's career. The homer was the first of Adam's career against the Red Sox.

Here are some bios for the former great players that Dunn caught today:

Kirk Gibson - Played Until Age: 38 Career HR: 255 Career AB: 5798 AB/HR: 22.7
Gibson played most of his 17 seasons with the Tigers, but he also played for the Dodgers, Pirates and Royals. He an outfielder. Gibson won the NL MVP Award in 1988 but never made the All Star team. He was named to the team twice, in 1985 and 1988, but declined the invitation both times. In fact, he is the only player in MLB history to win an MVP without ever making the All Star team in his career. Gibson was an All-American wide receiver at Michigan state, where he only played one year of baseball. He was chosen in the NFL draft by the Cardinals, but he chose to play baseball when the Tigers drafted him.

Gibson was known for hitting clutch home runs. In the eighth inning of Game 5 of the 1984 World Series, he faced Hall of Famer Goose Gossage with Detroit up 5-4 and first base open. An intentional (or at least semi-intentional) walk seemed to be in order, especially since Gibson had already homered earlier in the game. But Gossage told San Diego manager Dick Williams he thought he could get the Tigers' right fielder out; indeed, he had struck out Gibson in the latter's very first Major League at-bat in 1979. Detroit manager Sparky Anderson was seen in the dugout, yelling at Gibson, "He don't want to walk you!" and making a bat-swinging motion with his hands, the universal baseball gesture for "swing away." Gibson got the message, and launched Gossage's next pitch deep into Tiger Stadium's right field upper deck for a three-run homer, icing the game and the Series for the Tigers. Playing for the Dodgers in the 1988 National League Championship Series against the New York Mets, Gibson made an improbable catch in left field at rain-soaked Shea Stadium. Racing back, he slipped on the wet grass, yet on his way down, with his knees on the ground he reached out and made a full extension catch to save a Mookie Wilson double in Game 3. In Game 4 he hit a solo home run in the top of the 12th that ended up winning the game for the Dodgers. In Game 5 he hit a two-out three-run homer in the fifth and the Dodgers ended up winning the game 7-4. His LCS heroics proved to be a prelude to his single most visible career moment:

From Wikipedia -- "In the 1988 World Series against the Oakland Athletics, Gibson -- the 1988 NL MVP -- saw only a single plate appearance, but it was one of the most memorable and oft-replayed in baseball history. Gibson had severely injured both legs during the League Championship Series and had a stomach virus. He was not expected to play at all. In Game 1 on October 15, 1988 (at Dodger Stadium), with the Dodgers trailing by a score of 4-3, Mike Davis on first, and two out in the ninth inning, manager Tommy Lasorda inserted Gibson as a pinch hitter. Earlier, the TV camera had scanned the dugout and Vin Scully (the legendary Dodger announcer, who was calling the game with Joe Garagiola for NBC) observed that Gibson was nowhere to be found. According to legend, he was in the clubhouse undergoing physical therapy and saw this on the television, spurring him to get back in the dugout and tell Lasorda he was ready if needed. When Gibson received the news that he would pinch-hit, he went to the clubhouse batting-cage to warm-up. Suffering through such terrible pain in his knee, it is said he was wincing and nearly collapsing after every practice swing. Surprising everyone, Gibson hobbled up to the plate with Scully commenting, "Look who's coming up!" He was facing future Hall-of-Famer Dennis Eckersley, the best relief pitcher in baseball at the time. Gibson quickly got behind in the count, 0-2, but received a few outside pitches from Eckersley to work to a 3-2 count. On the sixth pitch of his at bat, a ball, Davis stole second. The A's could have walked Gibson to face Steve Sax, but chose to pitch to him, just as Gossage had done four years earlier. With an awkward, almost casual swing, Gibson used pure upper-body strength to smack a 3-2 backdoor slider over the right-field fence. He hobbled around the bases and pumped his fist as his jubilant teammates stormed the field. The Dodgers won the game, 5-4. The telecast of the home run is also notable because the shot of the ball flying over the wall also captures the taillights of the cars leaving the lot, presumably filled with fans who had given up hope and were leaving early to avoid the traffic. Gibson later said that prior to the Series, Dodger scout Mel Didier had provided a report on Eckersley that claimed with a 3-2 count against a left-handed power hitter, one could be absolutely certain that Eckersley would throw a backdoor slider. Gibson said that when the count reached 3-2, he stepped out of the batter's box and, in his mind, could hear Didier's voice, with its distinctive Southern drawl, reiterating that same piece of advice. With that thought in mind, Gibson stepped back into the batter's box; and thus when Eckersley did in fact throw a backdoor slider, it was, thanks to Didier, exactly the pitch for which Gibson was looking. The home run was so memorable that it was included as a finalist in a Major League Baseball contest to determine the sport's "Greatest Moment of All-Time." For years after the fact, it was regularly used in This Week in Baseball's closing montage sequence. An edited audio of Scully's 1988 call has been used in 2005 post-season action, in a TV ad featuring a recreational softball game, with a portly player essentially re-enacting that entire moment as he hits the softball over the right field fence to win the game. It was in competition on ESPN's SportsCenter for the Greatest Sports Highlight of All-Time."


John Mayberry - Played Until Age: 33 Career HR: 255 Career AB: 5447 AB/HR: 21.3
Mayberry played 15 seasons as a first baseman with the Astros, Royals, Blue Jays and Yankees. He made the All Star team twice. He has one of the more famous knicknames used by ESPN announcer Chris Berman. John Mayberry 'RFD'. His son John Jr. was a first round pick in 2005 by the Rangers and may make it to the majors this year or next.


John Olerud - Played Until Age: 37 Career HR: 255 Career AB: 7592 AB/HR: 29.8
Olerud played 17 seasons as a first baseman with the Blue Jays, Mets Mariners, Yankees and Red Sox. He made the All Star team twice and led the AL in batting average in 1993 with a mark of .363 for the season. Known for having one of the smoothest swings in the game, as well as for wearing a helmet even when fielding, Olerud was an excellent line drive hitter to all parts of the field. He had one of the best batting eyes in baseball, usually drawing 90-100 walks a season. He was extremely slow and only stole 11 bases in 17 years. A three-time Gold Glove winner, Olerud appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated, along with fellow Mets infielders Edgardo Alfonzo, Rey Ordóñez, and Robin Ventura. The magazine raised the debate as to whether the four talented defensive players comprised the best infield in Major League history. He was the NCAA Player of the Year twice in college. Olerud skipped the minors and jumped directly to the majors even though he was only drafted in the third round. We all remember him as somewhat odd for wearing a helmet when playing defense, but the little-known reason was because he had suffered a brain aneurysm in college.


Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 255 Career AB: 3557 AB/HR: 13.95
You can see that Dunn is passing players that played much longer with thousands more at-bats. Dunn now leads the team in RBIs, HRs, BBs, OBP, SLG and OPS -- and is 2nd in Runs Scored. He has done this even though three other players have more plate appearances (Phillips, Griffey and Encarnacion). Adam is tied with Ryan Braun for 6th place in the majors with 17 home runs and is 13th in the NL in OPS. Dunn is on a pace for 40 home runs, 99 RBIs, 87 Runs and 134 BBs.



Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
255 Kirk Gibson, John Mayberry, John Olerud
253 Larry Doby (HOF), Joe Gordon, Andre Thornton, Todd Zeile
252 Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer, Alfonso Soriano
251 Robin Yount (HOF), Cy Williams, Tony Armas
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

Adam Dunn has passed 39 players including 7 Hall of Famers this season.

fearofpopvol1
06-14-2008, 04:11 AM
Adam Dunn's home run on Friday was #255 of his career and moves him into a tie for 174th place on the all-time career home run list. He is now tied with Kirk Gibson, John Mayberry and John Olerud.

Next up on the list at 170th place with 256 career homers are former Reds great Vada Pinson, Larry Parrish, Bob Allison and Alfonso Soriano.

Soriano and Dunn have been climbing the ladder on the same rungs all season. Soriano started three homers ahead of Dunn at the start of the season and Dunn has tied him three times already. Soriano has hit 15 homers this season compared to Dunn's 17. Now Soriano is one ahead on the all time list, but Dunn will likely move ahead of him permanently now that Soriano is on the DL for six weeks.

Friday's homer came off Beavercreek's Justin Masterson, who is a rookie with the Red Sox and is now the 180th pitcher that Dunn has homered against. It was the 81st go-ahead homer of Dunn's career. The homer was the first of Adam's career against the Red Sox.

Here are some bios for the former great players that Dunn caught today:

Kirk Gibson - Played Until Age: 38 Career HR: 255 Career AB: 5798 AB/HR: 22.7
Gibson played most of his 17 seasons with the Tigers, but he also played for the Dodgers, Pirates and Royals. He an outfielder. Gibson won the NL MVP Award in 1988 but never made the All Star team. He was named to the team twice, in 1985 and 1988, but declined the invitation both times. In fact, he is the only player in MLB history to win an MVP without ever making the All Star team in his career. Gibson was an All-American wide receiver at Michigan state, where he only played one year of baseball. He was chosen in the NFL draft by the Cardinals, but he chose to play baseball when the Tigers drafted him.

Gibson was known for hitting clutch home runs. In the eighth inning of Game 5 of the 1984 World Series, he faced Hall of Famer Goose Gossage with Detroit up 5-4 and first base open. An intentional (or at least semi-intentional) walk seemed to be in order, especially since Gibson had already homered earlier in the game. But Gossage told San Diego manager Dick Williams he thought he could get the Tigers' right fielder out; indeed, he had struck out Gibson in the latter's very first Major League at-bat in 1979. Detroit manager Sparky Anderson was seen in the dugout, yelling at Gibson, "He don't want to walk you!" and making a bat-swinging motion with his hands, the universal baseball gesture for "swing away." Gibson got the message, and launched Gossage's next pitch deep into Tiger Stadium's right field upper deck for a three-run homer, icing the game and the Series for the Tigers. Playing for the Dodgers in the 1988 National League Championship Series against the New York Mets, Gibson made an improbable catch in left field at rain-soaked Shea Stadium. Racing back, he slipped on the wet grass, yet on his way down, with his knees on the ground he reached out and made a full extension catch to save a Mookie Wilson double in Game 3. In Game 4 he hit a solo home run in the top of the 12th that ended up winning the game for the Dodgers. In Game 5 he hit a two-out three-run homer in the fifth and the Dodgers ended up winning the game 7-4. His LCS heroics proved to be a prelude to his single most visible career moment:

From Wikipedia -- "In the 1988 World Series against the Oakland Athletics, Gibson -- the 1988 NL MVP -- saw only a single plate appearance, but it was one of the most memorable and oft-replayed in baseball history. Gibson had severely injured both legs during the League Championship Series and had a stomach virus. He was not expected to play at all. In Game 1 on October 15, 1988 (at Dodger Stadium), with the Dodgers trailing by a score of 4-3, Mike Davis on first, and two out in the ninth inning, manager Tommy Lasorda inserted Gibson as a pinch hitter. Earlier, the TV camera had scanned the dugout and Vin Scully (the legendary Dodger announcer, who was calling the game with Joe Garagiola for NBC) observed that Gibson was nowhere to be found. According to legend, he was in the clubhouse undergoing physical therapy and saw this on the television, spurring him to get back in the dugout and tell Lasorda he was ready if needed. When Gibson received the news that he would pinch-hit, he went to the clubhouse batting-cage to warm-up. Suffering through such terrible pain in his knee, it is said he was wincing and nearly collapsing after every practice swing. Surprising everyone, Gibson hobbled up to the plate with Scully commenting, "Look who's coming up!" He was facing future Hall-of-Famer Dennis Eckersley, the best relief pitcher in baseball at the time. Gibson quickly got behind in the count, 0-2, but received a few outside pitches from Eckersley to work to a 3-2 count. On the sixth pitch of his at bat, a ball, Davis stole second. The A's could have walked Gibson to face Steve Sax, but chose to pitch to him, just as Gossage had done four years earlier. With an awkward, almost casual swing, Gibson used pure upper-body strength to smack a 3-2 backdoor slider over the right-field fence. He hobbled around the bases and pumped his fist as his jubilant teammates stormed the field. The Dodgers won the game, 5-4. The telecast of the home run is also notable because the shot of the ball flying over the wall also captures the taillights of the cars leaving the lot, presumably filled with fans who had given up hope and were leaving early to avoid the traffic. Gibson later said that prior to the Series, Dodger scout Mel Didier had provided a report on Eckersley that claimed with a 3-2 count against a left-handed power hitter, one could be absolutely certain that Eckersley would throw a backdoor slider. Gibson said that when the count reached 3-2, he stepped out of the batter's box and, in his mind, could hear Didier's voice, with its distinctive Southern drawl, reiterating that same piece of advice. With that thought in mind, Gibson stepped back into the batter's box; and thus when Eckersley did in fact throw a backdoor slider, it was, thanks to Didier, exactly the pitch for which Gibson was looking. The home run was so memorable that it was included as a finalist in a Major League Baseball contest to determine the sport's "Greatest Moment of All-Time." For years after the fact, it was regularly used in This Week in Baseball's closing montage sequence. An edited audio of Scully's 1988 call has been used in 2005 post-season action, in a TV ad featuring a recreational softball game, with a portly player essentially re-enacting that entire moment as he hits the softball over the right field fence to win the game. It was in competition on ESPN's SportsCenter for the Greatest Sports Highlight of All-Time."


John Mayberry - Played Until Age: 33 Career HR: 255 Career AB: 5447 AB/HR: 21.3
Mayberry played 15 seasons as a first baseman with the Astros, Royals, Blue Jays and Yankees. He made the All Star team twice. He has one of the more famous knicknames used by ESPN announcer Chris Berman. John Mayberry 'RFD'. His son John Jr. was a first round pick in 2005 by the Rangers and may make it to the majors this year or next.


John Olerud - Played Until Age: 37 Career HR: 255 Career AB: 7592 AB/HR: 29.8
Olerud played 17 seasons as a first baseman with the Blue Jays, Mets Mariners, Yankees and Red Sox. He made the All Star team twice and led the AL in batting average in 1993 with a mark of .363 for the season. Known for having one of the smoothest swings in the game, as well as for wearing a helmet even when fielding, Olerud was an excellent line drive hitter to all parts of the field. He had one of the best batting eyes in baseball, usually drawing 90-100 walks a season. He was extremely slow and only stole 11 bases in 17 years. A three-time Gold Glove winner, Olerud appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated, along with fellow Mets infielders Edgardo Alfonzo, Rey Ordóñez, and Robin Ventura. The magazine raised the debate as to whether the four talented defensive players comprised the best infield in Major League history. He was the NCAA Player of the Year twice in college. Olerud skipped the minors and jumped directly to the majors even though he was only drafted in the third round. We all remember him as somewhat odd for wearing a helmet when playing defense, but the little-known reason was because he had suffered a brain aneurysm in college.


Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 255 Career AB: 3557 AB/HR: 13.95
You can see that Dunn is passing players that played much longer with thousands more at-bats. Dunn now leads the team in RBIs, HRs, BBs, OBP, SLG and OPS -- and is 2nd in Runs Scored. He has done this even though three other players have more plate appearances (Phillips, Griffey and Encarnacion). Adam is tied with Ryan Braun for 6th place in the majors with 17 home runs and is 13th in the NL in OPS. Dunn is on a pace for 40 home runs, 99 RBIs, 87 Runs and 134 BBs.



Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
255 Kirk Gibson, John Mayberry, John Olerud
253 Larry Doby (HOF), Joe Gordon, Andre Thornton, Todd Zeile
252 Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer, Alfonso Soriano
251 Robin Yount (HOF), Cy Williams, Tony Armas
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

Adam Dunn has passed 39 players including 7 Hall of Famers this season.

Dude, these are great posts/updates. Thanks for sharing. Can you post some of the others that are within close proximity? Like 257-260 or so?

Big Klu
06-14-2008, 04:44 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 255
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 202
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

Highlifeman21
06-14-2008, 11:17 AM
Only 345 to go to tie Junior!

mth123
06-14-2008, 05:21 PM
Dunn just homered again. That means another installment from Atomic Dumpling. I can't wait. IMO, this is the thread of the year.

Keep up the good work AD, and thanks for the great posts.

toledodan
06-14-2008, 05:24 PM
i wish they would just resign him and get it over with.

mth123
06-14-2008, 05:24 PM
i wish they would just resign him and get it over with.

No kidding.

AtomicDumpling
06-17-2008, 02:00 AM
Adam Dunn's home run on Saturday was #256 of his career and moves him into a tie for 170th place on the all-time career home run list. He is now tied with Vada Pinson, Bob Allison, Larry Parrish and Alfonso Soriano.

Next up on the list at 169th place with 257 career homers is current Detroit Tiger Magglio Ordonez. After that he will need to hit three homers to catch anyone else because nobody is currently sitting at 258 or 259 home runs. Javy Lopez and Tim Wallach are tied with 260 homers at 167th place in history. Dunn has reached the level where not many players have reached so they are spread out a bit. Before this season he was passing multiple players with every blast, but now passing people gets tougher.

Saturday's homer came against Tim Wakefield and was the first time Dunn has homered off the knuckleballer. In fact it was the very first plate appearance in which Dunn had faced Wakefield in his career. Wakefield is the 181st pitcher that Dunn has homered against. Dunn has now homered against 24 opposing teams and in 26 ballparks.

Dunn gets congrats from Edwin after "Adam Bomb" #256:
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Here are some bios for the former great players that Dunn caught today:

Vada Pinson - Played Until Age: 37 Career HR: 256 Career AB: 9645 AB/HR: 37.7 Top Season: 24 HRs
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Pinson played most of his career and was most productive with the Reds, but he also played for the Cardinals, Indians, Angels and Royals. He was a centerfielder. He made the All Star team twice and won one Gold Glove award. He led the NL in runs once, hits twice, doubles twice and triples twice. He ranks in the all-time top 100 in most offensive stats. Pinson batted .343 in 1961 when the Reds made it to the World Series against the Yankees. He could do it all - hit for power and average, steal bases, get to a ball in the deepest reaches of the outfield, and fire a bullet back in. Called up briefly in 1958, he hit a grand slam in his second game. The next year he led the NL in runs (131) and doubles (47), ranked fourth in batting (.316), belted 20 home runs and collected 205 hits. Because he had totaled 96 at-bats the season before (just six more than the minimum needed to gain rookie status), however, he was ineligible for Rookie of the Year consideration. Pinson proved his sensational start was no fluke. Over his first five full seasons with the Reds he averaged 197 hits, 108 runs scored, 37 doubles, 20 home runs, 88 RBI, 26 stolen bases, and a .310 batting average. In three of those campaigns he also led NL outfielders in putouts. NL president Warren Giles said, "There's no telling how good he can become, maybe the best we've ever seen." For ten years Pinson owned center in Crosley Field. Never on the disabled list, the durable Pinson averaged 154 games and 624 at-bats for a decade. Despite his fantastic production and consistency, he was often overshadowed in Cincinnati by the mighty power production of Frank Robinson and later by Pete Rose and Tony Perez. After the 1968 season he was traded to the St. Louis Cardinals for Bobby Tolan and Wayne Granger. Pinson went to the same high school as former Reds great Frank Robinson. Former Red Curt Flood and Basketball Hall of Famer Bill Russel also went there. He has the most career hits with 2757 of any player not in the Hall of Fame.




Bob Allison - Played Until Age: 36 Career HR: 256 Career AB: 5032 AB/HR: 19.7 Top Season: 35 HRs
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Allison played 13 seasons as a strong-armed outfielder with the Washington Senators and went north with the team when they moved to Minnesota and became the Twins. He made the All Star team three times and was the AL Rookie of the Year in 1959. He led the league in Runs and OPS in 1963. He and teammate Harmon Killebrew were the first ML players to combine for two grand slams in one inning, and he teamed with Killebrew, Tony Oliva, and Jimmie Hall to hit four consecutive home runs in 1964. Killebrew once said of him: "He wants to win at everything -- cards, ping pong, handball, or baseball. He wants to be first on the airplane and first on the bus."

At 6-foot-4, 230 pounds, Bob Allison was such a strong man that he manhandled 6-foot-6, 220-pound Don Drysdale during a spring training game in 1961. The Los Angeles Dodgers' Drysdale had thrown a fastball at Twins' outfielder Lenny Green after shortstop Zoilo Versalles homered off Drysdale. Later in the game, Drysdale covered home plate on a play and Green came in with his spikes high. Drysdale threatened the 5-foot-9 Green. Allison was the on-deck batter. He wrapped his arms around Drysdale in a bear hug from behind and lifted the pitcher off the ground. Drysdale immediately lost his mood. George Lentz was the trainer for both the Washington Senators and the football Redskins when Allison came to the major leagues. He called Allison "the fellow I'd least like to grab me when he's mad." But Allison was a peacemaker on the field, never tossing a punch. During one of his minor-league seasons in Chattanooga, New Orleans' manager Peanuts Lowry charged from the dugout with a bat to take on a Chattanooga pitcher who had thrown at a batter. Allison charged in, wrapped up the 170-pound manager and carried him back to the dugout.


Larry Parrish - Played Until Age: 35 Career HR: 256 Career AB: 6792 AB/HR: 26.5 Top Season: 32 HRs
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Parrish played 15 seasons as a third baseman and outfielder with the Expos, Rangers and Red Sox. He made the All Star team twice. He broke into the big leagues with the Expos when former Reds Manager Pete Mackanin was moved from 3B to 2B. Parrish was considered a good fielder even though he made 35 errors that rookie season! (How does Encarnacion look now?) After several solid seasons in Montreal Parrish was dealt to Texas for perennial All-Star Al Oliver. Since the Rangers already had Buddy Bell entrenched at 3B, Parrish was shifted to right field. After his MLB career ended Parrish spent two years in Japan, hitting an additional 70 homers for two different teams. He later managed the Detroit Tigers for two years.


Alfonso Soriano - Current Age: 32 Career HR: 256 Career AB: 4693 AB/HR: 18.3 Top Season: 46 HRs
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Soriano is an active player with the Cubs. He played previously with the Yankees, Rangers and Nationals. He began his career as a second baseman, but has played outfield since the last couple years. His first major league hit was a walk-off homer against the Devil Rays. He owns the major league record for leadoff homers in a season with 13. Soriano has made the All Star team 6 times, including the year he was the MVP of the game after hitting a 3-run homer off Roger Clemens. In 2004 he was traded for Alex Rodriguez and $67 million! Soriano joins Jose Canseco, Barry Bonds and A-Rod as the only members of the 40-40 club (40 homers and 40 stolen bases). In 2006, Soriano became the fastest man in baseball history to reach 200 home runs and 200 stolen bases, reaching the mark in 929 games (breaking the previous record of 1,053 games held by former Reds stud Eric Davis). Soriano led all major league second basemen in errors every year from 2001 to 2005 (19, 23, 19, 23, and 21). In 2006 he was second in the major leagues of all left fielders in errors, with 11, but led all left fielders with 22 assists, 9 double plays, and a 2.29 range factor. He is on the disabled list for the next 6 weeks, so Dunn should be able to pull ahead of him permanently.


Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 256 Career AB: 3564 AB/HR: 13.92 Top Season: 46 HRs
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Dunn has passed over 16,000 players during his career and has never been permanently passed on the home run list. Everyone on the list in front of him was already ahead of him when Dunn hit his first home run. Nobody has ever come from behind him on the list and stayed ahead of him.

Dunn now leads the Reds team in RBIs, HRs, BBs, OBP, SLG and OPS -- and is 2nd in Runs Scored. He has done this even though three other players have more plate appearances (Phillips, Griffey and Encarnacion). Adam is tied for 5th place in the majors with 18 home runs (with Ryan Braun, Pat Burrell and Josh Hamilton). Adam leads the majors in walks, and in the NL is 12th in OPS, 18th in RBI and 33rd in Runs Scored. Dunn is on a pace for 41 home runs, 98 RBIs, 87 Runs and 132 BBs this season.


Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
256 Vada Pinson, Bob Allison, Larry Parrish, Alfonso Soriano
255 Kirk Gibson, John Mayberry, John Olerud
253 Larry Doby (HOF), Joe Gordon, Andre Thornton, Todd Zeile
252 Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer
251 Robin Yount (HOF), Cy Williams, Tony Armas
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

Adam Dunn has passed 42 players including 7 Hall of Famers this season.

Bonus Dunn picture:
http://www.jsonline.com/graphics/sports/brew/img/sep04/dunn910.jpg
Adam Dunn crunches Brewer catcher Mark Johnson in 2004.

Big Klu
06-17-2008, 03:00 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 256
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Eric Davis - 203
8. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 202
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

Deepred05
06-17-2008, 06:03 PM
Great Thread Atomic. Appreciate all the history.

AtomicDumpling
06-29-2008, 06:57 PM
Adam Dunn hit his 257th career homer on Saturday and his 258th on Sunday. He is now all alone in 170th place on the all-time career list of the greatest home run hitters the game has ever seen. Not bad for a 28 year old, eh?

Unfortunately neither of Adam’s weekend homers allowed him to catch anybody on the list. He had been tied at 256 homers with Vada Pinson, Bob Allison, Larry Parrish and Alfonso Soriano, but since nobody had 257 or 258 homers he was not able to move beyond 170th place.

Next up on the list is Magglio Ordonez with 259 home runs. Ordonez of course is an active player with the Tigers so it is possible he could hit another homer before Dunn to keep his lead. Ordonez already has 12 homers this season and is one of the best hitters in baseball. Update: Ordonez was placed on the DL today, so Dunn should be able to pass him while he is on the shelf. Dunn just passed Alfonso Soriano while he was on the DL too. Maybe the active guys just ahead of Dunn on the list should be a little extra careful to avoid the "Here comes Dunn" curse.

Dunn’s homer #257 on Saturday came off Cleveland Indians pitcher Paul Byrd. It was his first career homer vs. Byrd in 16 plate appearances. Byrd is the 182nd different pitcher that Dunn has homered against.

Adam Bomb #257, Dunn rounds the bases after taking Byrd deep:
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Dunn’s homer #258 on Sunday came off Cleveland Indians pitcher Rick Bauer. It was his first career homer vs. Bauer in 1 plate appearance. Bauer is the 183rd different pitcher Dunn has homered against.

Adam Bomb #258, Dunn gets his revenge for the two beanings earlier in the game:
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Adam has now hit 10 career home runs against the Indians, including four at Jacob’s field. Dunn has hit 5 homers against the Indians just this season in only 6 games!

Dunn is now tied with Ryan Braun for 5th place in the majors with 20 home runs this season.

Adam leads the Reds in HRs, RBIs, BBs, OBP, SLG, OPS and is 3rd in Runs scored despite being only 5th in ABs.

Dunn is currently on a pace for the following stats this season:
40 Home Runs
96 RBI
84 Runs
130 Walks
.224 BA
.388 OBP
.508 SLG
.896 OPS

Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
256 Vada Pinson, Bob Allison, Larry Parrish, Alfonso Soriano
255 Kirk Gibson, John Mayberry, John Olerud
253 Larry Doby (HOF), Joe Gordon, Andre Thornton, Todd Zeile
252 Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer
251 Robin Yount (HOF), Cy Williams, Tony Armas
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

Adam Dunn has passed 42 players including 7 Hall of Famers this season.

Bonus Dunn image:
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Dunn smashes the catcher in the second inning of Sunday’s game. Was it an accident that Dunn got hit by pitches twice later in the game? I think not. Dunn got his revenge by crushing a three-run blast later in the game.

Since I didn't have any biographies of past players to include in this update, I will post Dunn's career ranks in all the major stats in another post. Not only is Dunn passing people with nearly every homer, he is also blowing past some great players in the other categories too.

Big Klu
06-30-2008, 01:35 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 258
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 204
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

AtomicDumpling
06-30-2008, 01:46 AM
Here are Adam Dunn's career ranks in just about every statistic. He is not only moving up the home run charts very quickly, he is also reaching some very respectable levels in most of the other stats too.

Keep in mind he is only 28 years old, so he has many seasons of productive baseball ahead of him. He may reach Hall of Fame territory in most of these stats, but not all of them -- batting average first and foremost.

Dunn is the second-youngest player in the rankings for almost every stat. Guess who is the younger guy ahead of him on the charts ... of course it is Albert Pujols. Pujols is only two months younger than Dunn, but he reached the majors four months earlier and has also had 700 more at-bats than Dunn. That is a whole season's worth of added opportunities for Pujols over Dunn. It doesn't really matter though because we all know Albert Pujols is a super-duper-megastar. Dunn is merely a star. Pujols will make the Hall of Fame easily, while Dunn is a longshot.

Mark Teixeira is six months younger than Dunn, but Dunn is way ahead of him in most stats although Teixeira is slightly ahead in a couple categories. Teixeira has about 450 fewer ABs than Dunn.

Miguel Cabrera is the young guy that poses a threat to Dunn. Cabrera is already ahead of Dunn in a couple of stats even though he is still only 25 years old. He reached the majors at the age of 20 and already has just 600 fewer ABs than Adam Dunn despite being three years younger.

I have assembled Dunn's rankings amongst all the players in MLB history, as well as comparing him to only active players. I separated out the counting stats from the ratios and sabermetric stats.

There have been a total of 16,766 players in MLB history.


Dunn's Ranks in Major League History

Accumulated Counting Stats

#138 in Ks with 1179 - Tied with Robin Ventura, next up Dave Concepcion w/1186

#170 in HRs with 258 - Next up Magglio Ordonez w/ 259

#286 in BBs with 740 - Tied with Eric Davis and Jackie Robinson. Next up Ed Delahanty w/ 741

#674 in RBIs with 620 - Tied with Mel Hall, Paul Blair and Howie Shanks. Next up J.D. Drew, Monte Cross and Jimmie Wilson w/ 621

#775 in Runs with 662 - Tied with Leo Cardenas, Norm Siebern and Jake Stenzel. Next up Dan Gladden, Bill Mueller and Bip Roberts w/ 663

#780 in Total Bases with 1868 - Tied with Amos Strunk and Del Unser. Next up Tom Herr with 1870

#990 in 2B with 189 - Tied with 6 others. Next up Ron Oester and 13 others w/ 190

#1198 in SB with 58 - Tied with 22 players. Next up 25 players w/ 59

#1245 in ABs with 3604 - Tied with Cy Perkins. Next up Aaron Ward w/ 3611

#1339 in Hits with 889 - Tied with Russ Wrightstone. Next up Buck Jordan and Ray Powell w/ 890

#3160 in 3B with 8 - Tied with 192 players. Next up 178 players w/ 9


Ratios and Calculated Statistics

#5 in AB/HR with 13.97 - Only McGwire, Ruth, Bonds and Thome are better at hitting home runs per at-bat.

#61 in SLG% with .5183 - Next up Gary Sheffield w/ .5188

#62 in OPS with .8995 - Next up Bill Joyce w/ .9022

#151 in Adjusted OPS+ with 130 - Tied with Roberto Clemente, Wade Boggs, J.D. Drew, Greg Luzinski, Minnie Minoso, Hardy Richardson, Socks Seybold, Riggs Stephenson, Dave Winfield, Ross Youngs and Hal Trosky. Next up Rod Carew, Mark Teixeira, Tony Oliva and Paul Hines w/ 131

#156 in OBP with .3812 - Next up Enos Slaughter w/ .3815

#294 in Adjusted Batting Runs with 180 - Tied with Ted Kluszewski and Jay Buhner. Next up Buck Ewing w/ 181

#569 in Runs Created with 767 - Next up Steve Brodie and Don Kessinger w/ 769

#??? AVG with .247 - I can’t get a rank in AVG because he is not in the top 1000, nor does he have the minimum of 5000 ABs required for the mlb.com rankings.



Dunn's Ranks Among Active Players

Accumulated Counting Stats

#20 in Ks with 1179 - Next up Derrek Lee and Pat Burrell with 1203

#25 in BBs with 740 - Next up Scott Rolen w/ 742

#31 in HRs with 258 - Next up Magglio Ordonez w/ 259

#70 in RBIs with 620 - Next up J.D. Drew w/ 621

#75 in Runs with 662 - Next up Melvin Mora w/ 664

#86 in Total Bases with 1868 - Next up Melvin Mora w/ 1872

#98 in SB with 58 - Tied with Rocco Baldelli and Nick Punto. Next up Placido Polanco, Adam Everett and B.J. Upton w/ 59

#104 in 2B with 189 - Next up Brad Wilkerson 190

#104 in ABs with 3604 - Next up A.J. Pierzynski w/ 3611

#111 in Hits with 889 - Next up Mark Teixeira w/ 895

#256 in 3B with 8 - Tied with 18 players. Next up 22 players w/ 9


Ratios and Calculated Statistics

#2 in AB/HR with 13.97 - Jim Thome is #1 with 13.60. This is the reason nobody has been able to pass Dunn on the career homer list during his career. Nobody has ever passed him!

#19 in Adjusted OPS+ with 130 - Tied with J.D. Drew. Next up Mark Teixeira w/131

#19 in OBP with .3812 - Next up David Ortiz w/ .3821

#20 in SLG% with .5183 - Next up Gary Sheffield w/ .5188

#20 in OPS with .8995 - Next up Bobby Abreu w/ .9038

#29 in Adjusted Batting Runs with 180 - Next up Miguel Cabrera w/ 185

#64 in Runs Created with 767 - Next up Randy Wynn w/ 773

#122 in AVG with .247 (3000 ABs min.) - Tied with Jose Cruz Jr.. Next up Alex Gonzalez w/ .248

TeamBoone
06-30-2008, 02:49 AM
Wow!

My brain is officially boggled!

AtomicDumpling
07-03-2008, 11:41 PM
Adam Dunn hit his 259th career home run on Wednesday. He is now tied with Magglio Ordonez for 169th place in major league history.

Next up on the list are Javy Lopez and Tim Wallach with 260 home runs.

Dunn’s homer #259 on Wednesday came off Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher John Van Benschoten. It was his first career homer vs. Van Benschoten in 1 plate appearance. Van Benschoten is the 184th different pitcher that Dunn has homered against. It was the 26th time Dunn has homered against the Pirates, which is the 3rd most against any team in his career. He has hit 36 against the Cubs and 29 against the Brewers.


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Magglio Ordonez - Current Age: 34 Career HR: 259 Career AB: 5600 AB/HR: 21.6 Top Season: 38 HRs

Ordonez has played 12 seasons with the White Sox and now the Tigers. He has made the All Star team 6 times and led the AL in batting average with a mark of .363 in 2007 while placing 2nd in the MVP voting behind Alex Rodriguez. Ordonez was the first Tiger to win a batting title in 46 years. Ordóñez hits the ball with authority to all fields. He has good strike-zone judgment and a short, quick stroke. He pulls the ball against left-handed pitchers but with opposite-field power against right-handers. As a fielder, he has a decent arm, a quick release and good accuracy. Ordonez is currently on the disabled list, so Dunn should be able to stay ahead of him. Ordonez has 12 homers so far this year compared to Dunn’s 21.


Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
259 Magglio Ordonez
256 Vada Pinson, Bob Allison, Larry Parrish, Alfonso Soriano
255 Kirk Gibson, John Mayberry, John Olerud
253 Larry Doby (HOF), Joe Gordon, Andre Thornton, Todd Zeile
252 Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer
251 Robin Yount (HOF), Cy Williams, Tony Armas
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

Adam Dunn has passed 43 players including 7 Hall of Famers this season.

Big Klu
07-04-2008, 12:25 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 259
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 205
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

AtomicDumpling
07-07-2008, 04:00 AM
Adam Dunn hit his 260th career home run on Sunday. He is now tied with Javy Lopez and Tim Wallach for 167th place in major league history.

Next up on the list is Danny Tartabull with 262 home runs. Nobody currently has 261 homers, so Dunn won’t catch anyone with his next one.

Dunn’s homer #260 on Sunday came in Dunn’s second plate appearance against Washington Nationals pitcher Collin Balester, a 22 year old rookie throwing in his second major league game. He was like raw meat in front of a pit bull. The home run was a game-tying 3-run blast deep into the bullpen in right field. Balester is the 185th different pitcher that Dunn has homered against.

Adam Bomb #260, Dunn, barely visible in his desert camouflage, watches his line drive sail over the wall:
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Here are some bios for the former great players that Dunn caught today:

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Javy Lopez - Played Until Age: 36 Career HR: 260 Career AB: 5319 AB/HR: 20.5 Top Season: 43 HRs

Lopez was a catcher who played 15 seasons mostly with the Braves but also a few years with the Orioles and Red Sox. He made the All Star team 3 times and was the 2003 NL Comeback Player of the Year. Not bad for a guy that wasn’t even drafted. He is from Puerto Rico, so I believe he was eligible for the draft but wasn’t chosen. In 2003 he hit 43 homers to set the single-season record for catchers and he did it in only 129 games.

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Tim Wallach - Played Until Age: 39 Career HR: 260 Career AB: 8099 AB/HR: 31.2 Top Season: 28 HRs

Wallach played 17 seasons mostly with the Expos but also a few years with the Dodgers and Angels. He made the All Star team 5 times. Wallach played much of his career in Montreal alongside Tim Raines, Gary Carter, Hubie Brooks, Andres Galarraga and Andre Dawson after taking over at 3B from Larry Parrish (whom Dunn passed in homers a couple weeks ago). He was an excellent 3rd baseman and won three Gold Glove awards. Wallach won the Golden Spikes award as the best college player in the country while playing at Cal State Fullerton. Wallach attended the same high school as Garret Atkins and Will Ferrell.

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Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 260 Career AB: 3622 AB/HR: 13.93 Top Season: 46 HRs

Dunn is on a pace for 40 homers, 94 RBIs, 79 Runs, 122 BBs, .386 OBP, .515 SLG and .901 OPS for the season. Dunn leads the Reds in HRs, BBs, OBP, SLG and OPS. Dunn is second behind Phillips in runs scored and RBIs despite being only 5th in at-bats and 3rd in plate appearances. Dunn has the 22nd-best OPS in the major leagues.

Here are the top 10 in HRs in 2008 in the major leagues.

24 Utley
23 Howard, Uggla
22 Dunn, Berkman, Sizemore, A. Gonzalez
21 Braun, Burrell, H. Ramirez

9 of the 10 are in the National League.

Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
260 Javy Lopez, Tim Wallach
259 Magglio Ordonez
256 Vada Pinson, Bob Allison, Larry Parrish, Alfonso Soriano
255 Kirk Gibson, John Mayberry, John Olerud
253 Larry Doby (HOF), Joe Gordon, Andre Thornton, Todd Zeile
252 Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer
251 Robin Yount (HOF), Cy Williams, Tony Armas
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

Adam Dunn has passed 45 players including 7 Hall of Famers this season.

Big Klu
07-07-2008, 11:12 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 260
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 206
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

AtomicDumpling
07-16-2008, 05:50 PM
I have been away from Redszone for a few days due to a family emergency. While I was away Adam Dunn hit 4 home runs, so I have some catching up to do in keeping this thread up to date. I will cover all four homers in this post.

Adam Dunn has now hit 264 career home runs. He is tied with Bobby Thomson for 165th place in major league history. Dunn also passed Danny Tartabull this week.

Next up on the list are Garret Anderson and George Bell with 265 home runs.

Dunn’s homer #261 came against Chicago Cubs pitcher Carlos Zambrano. That was the 7th home run Dunn has hit against Zambrano, which is the most he has hit against any pitcher. He has hit 6 against both Kevin Millwood and Glendon Rusch.
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Homer #262 came against the Cubs’ Jon Lieber and was the 4th homer Dunn has hit off Lieber in his career. The blast traveled out of Wrigley Field and bounced off a building on the other side of Sheffield Avenue, took a huge bounce (off a padded bicycle seat) and almost came back into the stadium. It was one of the hardest hit balls I have ever seen. The shot was officially measured at 485 feet and is the longest home run hit in the major leagues this season.
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Adam Bomb #263 came against the Brewer’s Seth McClung and was a 3-run blast in the first inning. It was his first homer off McClung, who became the 186th pitcher that Dunn has homered against. Later in that same game Eric Gagne became Dunn’s 187th victim when Adam hit #264 in the top of the 9th inning to put the Reds ahead 5-2. It was the 21st time Adam has hit 2 home runs in one game. Dunn has now hit 31 homers against the Brewers, which is the second most against any team. He has 38 against the Cubs.

Here is Adam Bomb #264 against Gagne:
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Here are some bios for the former great players that Dunn caught with the four dingers:

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Danny Tartabull - Played Until Age: 34 Career HR: 262 Career AB: 5011 AB/HR: 19.1 Top Season: 34 HRs

Tartabull was a right fielder who played 14 seasons with the Mariners, Royals, Yankees, Athletics, White Sox and Phillies. He made the All Star team 1 time. Tartabull was an all-or-nothing type of hitter with great power and poor contact rate. He hit 34 homers in 1987, the second highest total in Royals history. After signing a free agent deal with the Yankees he was one of the five highest-paid players in baseball. Tartabull’s injury-plagued tenure in New York came to an end when he was replaced by Bernie Williams and was traded to the A’s for Ruben Sierra. His father Jose played in the majors for nine years in the 1960’s. During Danny’s time with the Yankees he appeared in two episodes of Seinfeld.


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Bobby Thomson - Played Until Age: 36 Career HR: 264 Career AB: 6305 AB/HR: 23.9 Top Season: 32 HRs

Thomson played 15 seasons mostly with the New York Giants but also a few years with the Milwaukee Braves, Cubs, Red Sox and Orioles. He made the All Star team 3 times. He was an outfielder. Thomson became a celebrity for hitting a game-winning home run in a playoff game, off of Brooklyn Dodgers pitcher Ralph Branca, to win the 1951 National League pennant. The home run (nicknamed the "Shot Heard 'Round the World" and seen in the picture above) is perhaps the most famous in baseball history.

Rumors that the 1951 Giants stole signs en route to the pennant were confirmed in 2001, when several players told the Wall Street Journal that beginning on July 20, 1951, the team used a telescope and buzzer wire to steal the finger signals of opposing catchers careless enough to not protect their signs.[1] Joshua Prager detailed the revelations in a book titled The Echoing Green: The Untold Story of Bobby Thomson, Ralph Branca and The Shot Heard Round the World. Giant catcher Sal Yvars told Prager that he relayed to Thomson the stolen sign for Branca's fastball. But Thomson denied that he had foreknowledge of the pitch he hit off Branca for the pennant-winning home run.

This event was even more dramatic than it may seem to the modern sports observer, as league pennants were not routinely decided by playoff until 1969 and only occurred in years in which teams finished the regular season in a tie, as had happened in 1951. The home run was an exclamation point on a dramatic season for the Giants. Although some had considered them a pre-season favorite to win the pennant, they faltered badly in the early going. By mid-August, they were 13 1/2 games behind the league-leading Dodgers. But the Giants went on a late-season tear, winning 37 of their final 44 games to tie the Brooklyn team on the final day of the season and force the three-game playoff. The teams split the first two games, forcing the decisive contest on October 3rd at the Polo Grounds. The Dodgers took a 4-1 lead into the bottom of the ninth inning, and the Giants' cause appeared lost. But Thomson's homer turned what looked like a certain defeat into a 5-4 victory. The moment was immortalized by the famous call of Giants play-by-play announcer Russ Hodges who cried, "The Giants win the pennant! The Giants win the pennant!" Waiting to hit behind Thomson in the on deck circle was a young man who would hit a few home runs of his own: rookie Willie Mays. A key to the 1951 pennant was Thomson's switch to third base, allowing Willie Mays to take over centerfield.

Thomson remained with the Giants through the 1953 season. That winter, he was sent to the Milwaukee Braves in a multi-player deal. His career intersected with another of the game's all-time greats in 1954. During his first spring training with the Braves, he suffered a broken ankle. The injury allowed rookie Hank Aaron, the future home run king, to earn a place in the Milwaukee lineup.

The Braves traded Thomson back to the Giants during the 1957 season, and he was in the lineup for the club's final game at the Polo Grounds. The Giants moved to San Francisco for the 1958 season, but Thomson was gone, traded to the Cubs.

Thomson was born in Scotland and his family migrated to the United States when he was two years old. He served during WWII in the Army Air Force.


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Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 264 Career AB: 3644 AB/HR: 13.80 Top Season: 46 HRs

Dunn is on a pace for 44 homers, 100 RBIs, 81 Runs, 116 BBs, .380 OBP, .538 SLG and .918 OPS for the season. Dunn leads the Reds in HRs, RBIs, BBs, OBP, SLG and OPS and is second behind Phillips in runs scored despite being only 5th in at-bats and 3rd in plate appearances.

Dunn has the 18th-best OPS in all of baseball and is 20th in RBIs.

Here are the top 10 in HRs in 2008 in the major leagues.
28 Howard
26 Dunn
25 Utley
23 Braun, Sizemore, Uggla, Burrell, H. Ramirez
22 Berkman, Quentin, A. Gonzalez

Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
264 Bobby Thomson
262 Danny Tartabull
260 Javy Lopez, Tim Wallach
259 Magglio Ordonez
256 Vada Pinson, Bob Allison, Larry Parrish, Alfonso Soriano
255 Kirk Gibson, John Mayberry, John Olerud
253 Larry Doby (HOF), Joe Gordon, Andre Thornton, Todd Zeile
252 Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer
251 Robin Yount (HOF), Cy Williams, Tony Armas
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

Adam Dunn has passed 47 players including 7 Hall of Famers this season.

Big Klu
07-16-2008, 08:46 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 264
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 207
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

BuckeyeRedleg
07-17-2008, 12:58 AM
I love this thread. Well done, AtomicDumpling and Big Klu.

Degenerate39
07-17-2008, 02:27 AM
I really hope Dunn can pass Tony Perez this year. It's highly unlikely that he won't but this will probably be his last year as a Red so I'd like to see him as high on that list as possible. I wish Cincy embraced Dunn like they should. Dunn should be a career Red.

reds44
07-17-2008, 04:20 AM
This is probably the best thread on the site going right now. Sitting at the Brewers/Reds game last Saturday night, it would just be wrong to see Dunn in a uniform other than the Reds. I am pretty neutral on the enitre Dunn argument, but it just wouldn't be right to see him in another uniform. How cool would it be to see him make a run at 300, 400, 500 in a Reds uniform?

Ron Madden
07-17-2008, 05:24 AM
This is probably the best thread on the site going right now. Sitting at the Brewers/Reds game last Saturday night, it would just be wrong to see Dunn in a uniform other than the Reds. I am pretty neutral on the enitre Dunn argument, but it just wouldn't be right to see him in another uniform. How cool would it be to see him make a run at 300, 400, 500 in a Reds uniform?

Agreed. I love this thread and would love to see Adam Dunn stay in Cincinnati for years to come.

WebScorpion
07-17-2008, 11:34 AM
Agreed. I love this thread and would love to see Adam Dunn stay in Cincinnati for years to come.
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Degenerate39
07-17-2008, 06:30 PM
This is probably the best thread on the site going right now. Sitting at the Brewers/Reds game last Saturday night, it would just be wrong to see Dunn in a uniform other than the Reds. I am pretty neutral on the enitre Dunn argument, but it just wouldn't be right to see him in another uniform. How cool would it be to see him make a run at 300, 400, 500 in a Reds uniform?

I'd love to see him as a career Red like I said but I think it would be awesome to see him be the first Red to hit 400 and 500 homers with just the Reds. He's been my favorite player for quite a while now and I'll never see why there are a number of folks who hate him.

AtomicDumpling
07-27-2008, 12:49 AM
In the past few days Adam Dunn has hit 3 home runs and has passed 5 players on the all-time career home run list.

Adam Dunn has now hit 267 career home runs. He is tied with George Hendrick and Scott Rolen for 160th place in major league history. Dunn also passed George Bell, Vic Wertz and Garret Anderson this week.

Next up on the list are Joe Morgan, Brooks Robinson, Gorman Thomas and Miguel Tejada with 268 home runs.

Dunn’s homer #265 came against New York Mets pitcher Johan Santana, who became the 188th pitcher against whom Adam has homered.

Adam Bomb #266 came against the Mets’ Mike Pelfrey, who became the 189th victim.

#267 was a huge grand slam against Joe Thatcher (victim 190) of the Padres. The blast was the Reds first and only grand slam of the season.

Advice to pitchers: Don’t put the ball in this spot!
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Here are some bios for the former great players that Dunn caught with the four dingers:

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George Bell - Played Until Age: 34 Career HR: 265 Career AB: 5011 AB/HR: 23.1 Top Season: 47 HRs

Bell was a left fielder who played 12 seasons primarily with the Blue Jays, but he finished up his career with the Cubs and White Sox. He made the All Star team 3 times and won the 1987 AL MVP when he finished with a .308 BA, .352 OBP, .608 SLG, 111 Rs, 47 HRs and 134 RBIs. That is a heck of a season. In 1988 Bell became the first player in the Major Leagues to hit three home runs on an opening day (all of them coming off of Bret Saberhagen). After the 1991 season, Bell was traded from the Cubs to the White Sox for Sammy Sosa, which kicked off Sosa’s legendary career with the Cubs. Bell holds the distinction of having hit the last home run at Exhibition Stadium. George’s younger brother Juan played in the major leagues as well. Bell was involved in an incident in 1985 with Red Sox pitcher Bruce Kison, after being hit by a pitch Kison had thrown. Bell charged the mound, and upon approaching Kison, apparently attempted to karate-kick him with a flying leap, and was summarily ejected from the game. Replays of this incident are frequently included in compilations of impromptu sports fights or bizarre baseball plays.


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Vic Wertz - Played Until Age: 38 Career HR: 266 Career AB: 6099 AB/HR: 22.9 Top Season: 32 HRs
Wertz played 17 seasons mostly with the Tigers, Browns, Orioles, Indians, Red Sox, Tigers again and Twins. He made the All Star team 4 times in the 1950s. He was an outfielder and first baseman He missed part of 1955 with polio – yes, polio. In one of the most famous plays in baseball history, Vic Wertz hit the long fly ball that Willie Mays caught over his shoulder in the 1954 World Series. Known as “The Catch”, it went over 450 feet to dead center of the Polo Grounds in New York, and a sportswriter said, "It would have been a home run in any other park, including Yellowstone." Wertz was a very popular player with a winning personality and was known for his extreme baldness.


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Garret Anderson - Current Age: 36 Career HR: 266 Career AB: 7785 AB/HR: 29.3 Top Season: 35 HRs

Anderson has played his entire 15 year career with the Angels so far. He is a left fielder and DH. He is the Angels’ career leader in almost every hitting category except home runs ironically. Tim Salmon it 299 homers with the Angels. Anderson has made the All Star team three times and was the All Star Game MVP in 2003. He also won the Home Run Derby that year. He finished second in the 1995 Rookie of the Year voting to Marty Cordova of all people.

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Scott Rolen - Current Age: 33 Career HR: 267 Career AB: 5781 AB/HR: 21.7 Top Season: 34 HRs

Rolen has played 13 seasons with the Phillies, Cardinals and Blue Jays as a third baseman. He has made the All Star team 5 times and has won 7 Gold Gloves. Only Brooks Robinson and Mike Schmidt have won more GG awards at 3B. Rolen is considered one of the best defensive third baseman in major league history. He was the 1997 NL Rookie of the Year after having the maximum 130 ABs in 1996. He was hit by a pitch in his last plate appearance of 1996. Since an HBP does not count as an at-bat he barely maintained his eligibility for the Rookie of the Year award in 1997. In January of this year Rolen was traded to the Blue Jays for Troy Glaus, another stellar third baseman.


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George Hendrick - Played Until Age: 39 Career HR: 267 Career AB: 7129 AB/HR: 26.7 Top Season: 25 HRs

Hendrick played for 18 seasons with the Athletics, Indians, Padres, Cardinals, Pirates and Angels as an outfielder. He made the All Star team 4 times and won two World Series rings. He was traded five times in his career. Hendrick was a guy that worked his way up the home run list with longevity. He never hit more than 25 HRs in a season, but he consistently hit around 20 until old age caught up with him. Hendrick was known as Silent George for his refusal to speak to the media, but he was a well-liked and popular player. He is currently a coach with the Tampa Bay Rays.


Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 267 Career AB: 3670 AB/HR: 13.75 Top Season: 46 HRs

Dunn is on a pace for 45 homers, 105 RBIs, 85 Runs, 117 BBs, .386 OBP, .547 SLG and .933 OPS for the season. Dunn leads the Reds in HRs, RBIs, BBs, OBP, SLG and OPS and is second behind Phillips in runs scored despite being only 5th in at-bats and 3rd in plate appearances.

Dunn has the 12th-best OPS in all of baseball. He is 18th in RBIs in the majors despite having markedly fewer RBI opportunities than most of the people in front of him.

Here are the top 10 in HRs in 2008 in the major leagues.
30 Howard
29 Dunn
26 Braun, Quentin
25 Sizemore, Burrell, Utley
24 H. Ramirez, Uggla
23 Hamilton, Ludwick, A. Gonzalez

Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
267 George Hendrick, Scott Rolen
266 Vic Wertz, Garret Anderson
265 George Bell
264 Bobby Thomson
262 Danny Tartabull
260 Javy Lopez, Tim Wallach
259 Magglio Ordonez
256 Vada Pinson, Bob Allison, Larry Parrish, Alfonso Soriano
255 Kirk Gibson, John Mayberry, John Olerud
253 Larry Doby (HOF), Joe Gordon, Andre Thornton, Todd Zeile
252 Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer
251 Robin Yount (HOF), Cy Williams, Tony Armas
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

Adam Dunn has passed 52 players including 7 Hall of Famers this season.

Big Klu
07-27-2008, 04:07 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 267
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 209
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

NC Reds
07-27-2008, 11:00 AM
This is my favorite thread. I always look forward to the updates after each Dunn blast. Thanks.

Raisor
07-27-2008, 11:07 AM
I didn't think Dunn had a chance to catch Perez when the year started. He's on pace for 17 more, which would leave him three short.

It's possible.

KronoRed
07-27-2008, 02:04 PM
I didn't think Dunn had a chance to catch Perez when the year started. He's on pace for 17 more, which would leave him three short.

It's possible.

I'm seeing a last game of the season 4HR game, then a finger to all the booers :D

AtomicDumpling
07-30-2008, 01:05 AM
Adam Dunn hit another grand slam on Monday night. The blast was his 268th career home run, which moves him into a tie for 157th place on the all-time list of the game's greatest sluggers. He is tied with former Reds great Joe Morgan, Hall of Famer Brooks Robinson and former Brewers powerhouse Gorman Thomas.

Next up on the list is Miguel Tejada with 269 home runs.

Dunn’s homer #268 came against Astros hurler Roy Oswalt. It was the 4th home run Dunn has hit off Oswalt. Oswalt has totally owned the Reds and has a 20-1 career record against us. Adam Dunn however has totally owned Oswalt. Dunn has a career OPS of 1.004 against the Astros ace with a line of .271/.394/.610 in 71 plate appearances, which is the 2nd most PAs Dunn has against any pitcher (72 vs. Zambrano). Given that Dunn has performed so well against Oswalt, the rest of the Reds must have been truly awful against him to allow him a 20-1 record against us.

The home run was Dunn’s 9th career grand slam. It was also the 85th time a Dunn homer has given the Reds the lead in a game. It was the 48th time Dunn has hit the 1st pitch of an at-bat for a home run. In fact, 0-0 is the count that Dunn has hit the most homers on, 3-2 is second with 37, 1-1 is third with 29 all the way down to 3-0 with only 2 homers.

Here are Dunn’s situational stats for the season:

.245 BA .386 OBP .559 SLG .945 OPS w/ Bases Empty
.262 BA .391 OBP .607 SLG .998 OPS w/ RISP (runners in scoring position)
.424 BA .457 OBP .818 SLG 1.275 OPS w/ RISP and 2 outs
.455 BA .538 OBP 1.000 SLG 1.538 OPS w/ Bases Loaded

Those numbers show that Dunn has been highly clutch this season and has come through for the Reds in the most critical situations.

Dunn swats #268 off Astros ace Roy Oswalt, then rounds the bases for the league leading 30th time.
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Here are some bios for the former great players that Dunn caught with the homer:

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Joe Morgan - Played Until Age: 41 Career HR: 268 Career AB: 9277 AB/HR: 34.6 Top Season: 27 HRs

Morgan was a second baseman who played 22 seasons with the Colt 45s, Astros, Reds, Giants, Phillies and Athletics. He made the All Star team 10 times and was the MVP of the All Star Game in 1972. Morgan won 5 Gold Glove awards for his stellar defense. He won the NL MVP in both 1975 and 1976 during the height of the Big Red Machine. Morgan also had great speed and stole 689 bases, which is 11th in history. Morgan was elected to the Hall of Fame in 1990.

Early in his career, Morgan had trouble with his swing because he kept his back elbow down too low. Teammate Nellie Fox suggested to Joe that while at the plate he should flap his back arm like a chicken to keep his elbow up. Morgan followed the advice, and his flapping arm became a familiar sight to baseball fans. After the 1971 season Morgan (along with Cesar Geronimo and Jack Billingham) was traded to the Reds for Lee May, Tommy Helms and others.

Morgan started his career in the spacious Astrodome, and actually spent more years with Houston than with Cincinnati. Morgan's power was shown to better advantage in Riverfront Stadium, helped by coaching from Ted Kluszewski. Morgan doubled his home run output in two seasons. His first year in Cincinnati, he made the All-Star team for only the second time, and was named the game's MVP when he singled in the winning run in the bottom of the tenth. He ended up leading the league in walks with 115 and runs scored with 122.

Of course Reds fans will never forget Morgan winning two World Series titles alongside Pete Rose, Johnny Bench, George Foster, Tony Perez and Dave Concepcion. Morgan’s jersey #8 has been retired by the Reds. Morgan is considered by many, including Bill James, to be the best second baseman in major league history.

In 1975 Morgan led the NL in walks for the third time with 132, while hitting .327 BA with 17 HR, 94 RBI, and 67 stolen bases. Morgan's MVP season sparked the team into the 1975 World Series against the Red Sox, one of the most exciting Series ever played. Morgan, as usual, was in the thick of the excitement. In Game Three, Morgan knocked in the winning run with a single in the 10th inning. In Game Four, he made the last out in a 5-4 Boston victory. In Game Five, he drew 16 pickoff throws at first just prior to a single by Bench and a three-run homer by Perez. In the seventh and deciding game, Morgan's RBI single in the top of the ninth gave the Reds the World Championship.

In 1976 Morgan topped his previous power totals with a career-high 27 HR, became only the fifth second baseman to drive in more than 100 runs (111), and led the league in slugging average at .576. He also batted .320, stole 60 bases, had an on-base average of .444 an an OPS+ of 187 to earn his straight second MVP. The Reds then swept the Yankees in the Series.

Morgan was a rare commodity, a speedy second baseman with power. The 5'7" 150-lb Little Joe was also one of the smallest number-three hitters in recent baseball history. Morgan ranks third all-time in walks behind Babe Ruth and Ted Williams.

Morgan ended up on a geriatric Phillies team in 1983 with fellow Reds alumni Pete Rose and Tony Perez, making it as far as the World Series but losing in five games to Baltimore.


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Brooks Robinson - Played Until Age: 40 Career HR: 268 Career AB: 10,654 AB/HR: 39.8 Top Season: 28 HRs
Robinson played 23 seasons with the Orioles in his very long career. He is tied with Carl Yastrzemski for the most seasons with one club. Robinson made the All Star team 15 times and was the starting third baseman every time – and his team lost 14 of those games. He was the 1966 All Star MVP for the losing team, which has only happened twice (Yaz in 1970). Robinson is widely considered the best fielding third baseman ever to play the game. He won 16 Gold Gloves, which is tied with Jim Kaat for the second most ever. Brooks won the 1964 AL MVP award. He was elected to the Hall of Fame in 1983.

After the Orioles beat the Reds in the 1970 World Series (in which Robinson was the MVP of the Series), Sparky Anderson said "I'm beginning to see Brooks in my sleep. If I dropped this paper plate, he'd pick it up on one hop and throw me out at first."

Robinson didn't play high school ball, and was playing second base in a church league when he was discovered – yet somehow he broke into the big leagues at the age of 18. He was worked in slowly as a replacement for Hall of Famer George Kell, who was finishing his career at third base for the Orioles. The Oriole dynasty that developed in the 1960s was built on pitching and defense, but Brooks was head and shoulders above all his smooth-fielding teammates. Wearing his trademark short-billed batting helmet, he was a fair hitter with some power, winning the 1964 MVP award on the strength of his only .300 season (.317), with 28 HR and 118 RBI. He was named MVP of the 1966 All-Star Game after getting three hits and scoring the AL's lone run in a 2-1 loss. But it was his glove that regularly won games. In the 1966 World Series, his presence at third discouraged the heavily favored Dodgers from employing their bunting game. The Orioles won four straight close games.
In the 1970 Series, the Reds nicknamed him "Hoover," expanding upon the "human vacuum cleaner" tag he had been known by. After Robinson won the Series MVP award (which earned him a new Toyota car) with a .429 average, two home runs, and a slew of dazzling defensive plays, Reds catcher Johnny Bench noted that "if he wanted a car that badly, we'd have given him one." On one unbelievable play, Brooks fully extended to backhand a sharp grounder by Lee May behind third and a full body length into foul territory, whirled off-balance, and threw a perfect one-hopper off the Riverfront Stadium Astroturf to Boog Powell at first for the out. He won Game One with a seventh-inning solo homer, and homered again in Game Four.

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Gorman Thomas - Played Until Age: 36 Career HR: 268 Career AB: 4677 AB/HR: 17.5 Top Season: 45 HRs

Thomas played 13 seasons mostly with the Brewers, but also had brief stints with the Indians and Mariners. He was a center fielder. He made only one All Star team. Gorman twice led the AL in homers. One of the most popular players in Brewers history, and affectionately known as "Stormin' Gorman", Thomas hit more home runs between 1978 and 1982 than any other player in the American League. However, his frequent strikeouts and low batting average overshadowed some of his career accomplishments (sound familiar?). Thomas was also a premier center fielder, with a wide range and good arm until undergoing rotator cuff surgery in 1984, which limited his duties and led to him being utilized primarily as a designated hitter. Thomas was the first player ever picked by the Seattle Pilots in the June 1969 draft. His first career homer came against Jim Palmer.

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Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 268 Career AB: 3682 AB/HR: 13.74 Top Season: 46 HRs

Dunn is on a pace for 45 homers, 109 RBIs, 85 Runs, 115 BBs, .386 OBP, .555 SLG and .941 OPS for the season. Dunn leads the Reds in HRs, RBIs, BBs, OBP, SLG and OPS and is second behind Phillips in runs scored despite being only 5th in at-bats and 3rd in plate appearances.

Dunn has the 13th-best OPS in all of baseball. He is 12th in RBIs in the majors despite having markedly fewer RBI opportunities than most of the people in front of him.

Here are the top 12 in HRs in 2008 in the major leagues.
30 Dunn, Howard
29 Braun
27 Quentin
26 Burrell
25 Utley, Uggla, Sizemore, A. Gonzalez
24 Hamilton, H. Ramirez, Dye

Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
268 Joe Morgan (HOF), Brooks Robinson (HOF), Gorman Thomas
267 George Hendrick, Scott Rolen
266 Vic Wertz, Garret Anderson
265 George Bell
264 Bobby Thomson
262 Danny Tartabull
260 Javy Lopez, Tim Wallach
259 Magglio Ordonez
256 Vada Pinson, Bob Allison, Larry Parrish, Alfonso Soriano
255 Kirk Gibson, John Mayberry, John Olerud
253 Larry Doby (HOF), Joe Gordon, Andre Thornton, Todd Zeile
252 Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer
251 Robin Yount (HOF), Cy Williams, Tony Armas
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

Adam Dunn has passed 55 players including 9 Hall of Famers this season.

Degenerate39
07-30-2008, 01:08 AM
Any chance he passes Tony Perez for Reds All Time Homers? As this could be his last season (hopefully not) I'd love to see him pass doggy.

Big Klu
07-30-2008, 04:23 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 268
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 209
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

AtomicDumpling
07-31-2008, 01:52 AM
Adam Dunn hit two more homers on Wednesday night. The blasts gave him 270 for his career, which moves him past Miguel Tejada and into 156th place on the all-time list of the game’s greatest sluggers.

Next up on the list are Tom Brunansky, Raul Mondesi and George Scott with 271 home runs.

Dunn’s homers #269 and #270 came against Astros hurler Wandy Rodriguez. This was the first time Dunn has homered against Rodriguez, who becomes the 191st pitcher Dunn has taken deep. It was the 22nd time Dunn has hit two homers in a game. Dunn now leads the league with 32 homers, which is two more than Ryan Howard. Dunn has hit 12 homers this month. The last time any Red hit more than 12 homers in a single month was way back in 2001 when Adam hit 13 in a month.

Dunn watches Adam Bomb #269 fly into the upper deck of Minute Maid Park:
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Here are some bios for the former great players that Dunn caught with the homer:

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Miguel Tejada - Current Age: 34 Career HR: 269 Career AB: 6465 AB/HR: 24.0 Top Season: 34 HRs

Tejada has played 12 seasons with the Athletics, Orioles and Astros. He is a shortstop. He has made the All Star team 5 times and even won the All Star Game MVP once and the Home Run Derby once. Tejada was the 2002 American League MVP when posted a line of .308 BA, 34 HRs, 131 RBIs and 108 Runs.

His nickname is "La Gua Gua" for "The Bus" in Spanish as Tejada is known to drive in runs and drive his team to victory. Tejada owns the 5th-longest consecutive games played streak of 1151 games, which ended when he broke his wrist in 2006. He has been implicated as a former steroids user by Rafael Palmiero, Jose Canseco and Jason Grimsley but Tejada denies the claims. In April of this year it was revealed that he was born in 1974 rather than 1976 as had previously been believed. It was also revealed that his real name is Miguel Tejeda rather than Tejada. Most of the Latin American players had their ages corrected soon after 9-11 when the federal government tightened scrutiny of the work visas foreign players must get to play baseball in the USA. Somehow Tejada slipped through the cracks at that time.

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Adam Dunn - Current Age: 28 Career HR: 270 Career AB: 3691 AB/HR: 13.67 Top Season: 46 HRs

Dunn is on a pace for 47 homers, 110 RBIs, 86 Runs, 113 BBs, .385 OBP, .567 SLG and .952 OPS for the season. Dunn leads the Reds in HRs, RBIs, BBs, OBP, SLG and OPS and is second behind Phillips in runs scored despite being only 5th in at-bats and 3rd in plate appearances.

Dunn has the 8th-best OPS in all of baseball. He is 13th in RBIs in the majors despite having markedly fewer RBI opportunities than most of the people in front of him.

Here are the top 10 in HRs in 2008 in the major leagues.
32 Dunn
30 Howard
29 Braun
28 Quentin
27 Utley
26 Burrell, Uggla
25 Sizemore, A. Gonzalez, Hamilton

Dunn is very close to passing Jim Thome and moving into 4th place on the AB/HR ratio list behind only Mark McGwire, Babe Ruth and Barry Bonds! Dunn is currently 5th after passing Ralph Kiner earlier this season.


Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list this season:
269 Miguel Tejada
268 Joe Morgan (HOF), Brooks Robinson (HOF), Gorman Thomas
267 George Hendrick, Scott Rolen
266 Vic Wertz, Garret Anderson
265 George Bell
264 Bobby Thomson
262 Danny Tartabull
260 Javy Lopez, Tim Wallach
259 Magglio Ordonez
256 Vada Pinson, Bob Allison, Larry Parrish, Alfonso Soriano
255 Kirk Gibson, John Mayberry, John Olerud
253 Larry Doby (HOF), Joe Gordon, Andre Thornton, Todd Zeile
252 Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer
251 Robin Yount (HOF), Cy Williams, Tony Armas
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

Adam Dunn has passed 56 players including 9 Hall of Famers this season.

Big Klu
07-31-2008, 01:55 AM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

OnBaseMachine
07-31-2008, 03:56 AM
If Dunn keeps hitting like this he just may pass Tony Perez this season.

buckeyenut
07-31-2008, 07:23 AM
Interesting. For the first time, we might just have someone who could potentially pass Dunn. He just passed Tejada last night and Miggy is obviously still active and productive. I put my money on Dunner to stay ahead of him, but Miggy could easily get hot for a couple of days and take the slot back, albeit not permanently.

camisadelgolf
07-31-2008, 09:00 AM
This is my first time opening this thread because I just thought it'd be another anti-Dunn pissing contest. Surprisingly, this is an excellent thread. Thank you so much for all the work that has gone into it--I'm really enjoying it.

AtomicDumpling
12-18-2008, 03:20 AM
I am going to go ahead and tie up the loose ends in this thread. I was too depressed after the Dunn salary purge to update the thread with the homers that Adam smacked after joining the Diamondbacks.

After reading back through this thread it really made me realize just how important he was to my enjoyment of watching Reds baseball. Every time he came to the plate you knew he could change the game and maybe even make some history. We don't have anybody left on the team that will be making any history any time soon. I have decided to continue closely following Adam's career as he climbs the charts and mingles with the game's greatest players.

Adam hit 8 homers with Arizona to give him a total of 40 for the 2008 season. He has hit exactly 40 homers in the last 4 consecutive seasons. How is that for consistency?

Dunn has now blasted 278 career home runs, which places him at #146 on the all-time list of the game's greatest sluggers.

When Adam hits his first homer of 2009 he will tie former Reds great and fan favorite Ted Kluszewski. He will also pass former Reds greats Paul O'Neill and Eric Davis in the first month of the season.

If Dunn is able to hit 40 homers or more again next year he will move into the top 100 on the all-time list -- at the age of 29.

Had he remained a Red all season he would have led the Reds in HRs, RBIs, BBs, OBP, SLG and OPS. He would have been 1 Run short of leading the team in that category also.

Adam had another very productive season in 2008. He ranked in the top 10 in the league in the following categories:

1st in Walks
2nd in Home Runs
2nd in HR/AB
9th in OBP
9th in OPS
10th in Offensive Win %

Dunn is also doing very well on the career charts for all active players. He is in the top 25 of all active players in the following categories:

3rd in AB/HR
21st in OBP
23rd in Off. Win %
24th in BBs
25th in SLG
25th in OPS
25th in OPS+


Players that Adam Dunn passed on the career home run list in 2008:
278 Ryan Klesko
277 Rudy York
275 Roger Maris, Dean Palmer, Brian Downing
274 Dante Bichette
272 Steve Garvey
271 George Scott, Raul Mondesi, Tom Brunanski
269 Miguel Tejada
268 Joe Morgan (HOF), Brooks Robinson (HOF), Gorman Thomas
267 George Hendrick, Scott Rolen
266 Vic Wertz, Garret Anderson
265 George Bell
264 Bobby Thomson
262 Danny Tartabull
260 Javy Lopez, Tim Wallach
259 Magglio Ordonez
256 Vada Pinson, Bob Allison, Larry Parrish, Alfonso Soriano
255 Kirk Gibson, John Mayberry, John Olerud
253 Larry Doby (HOF), Joe Gordon, Andre Thornton, Todd Zeile
252 Joe Torre, Brett Boone, Bobby Murcer
251 Robin Yount (HOF), Cy Williams, Tony Armas
249 Jose Valentin
248 Goose Goslin (HOF), Ted Simmons, Derrek Lee
247 Vern Stephens, Matt Stairs
246 Ken Singleton
245 Mickey Tettleton, Deron Johnson
244 Hack Wilson (HOF), Lou Whitaker, Tony Clark
242 Dusty Baker, Roy Campanella (HOF), Wally Berger, Sal Bando
241 Jesse Barfield, Cecil Cooper, Rick Monday
240 Roberto Clemente (HOF), Jeff Burroughs
239 Ken Caminiti, Dolph Camilli
238 Ray Lankford, Earl Averill (HOF)

(HOF) = Hall of Fame

Adam Dunn has passed 66 players including 9 Hall of Famers this season.

cincyinco
12-18-2008, 04:50 AM
Great thread, always one of my favorites. I'm glad it will keep going.

I'm no Dunn apologist, I recognised it flaws as a player... But I'm still a fan and always will be. There are not many players in the game I am a fan of.. Its a short list to be sure. But I will always follow his career closely, and I love his game.

Go Dunn! Hope to see you land somewhere in the national west so I can see you more frequently when you visit coors.

Jpup
12-18-2008, 09:56 AM
Time to start tracking Jay Bruce.

AtomicDumpling
03-04-2009, 02:31 AM
I came across an interesting article on Yahoo by Gordon Edes. It discusses Adam Dunn as a member of the USA team in the World Baseball Classic this spring.

The article is very long, so I am just posting the first few paragraphs because they are relevant to this thread.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ge-dunn030309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


The world expects nothing less.

There has to be at least one player in red, white, and blue who is bigger, stronger, and hits a baseball consistently farther than anyone else on the planet. Who looks like he could bench-press a semi-trailer, swing a telephone pole, and measures his home runs by how many state lines they cross.

And you might as well make him a Texan since that fits the global stereotype of America.

True story, one worth repeating now that 6-foot-6, 275-pound Adam Dunn – born in Houston – has been enlisted to represent his country in the World Baseball Classic: While playing for the Cincinnati Reds in 2004, Dunn hit a ball off the Dodgers’ Jose Lima that started in Ohio and landed in Kentucky. The ball cleared the batting eye in dead center field in Great American Ballpark, left the premises and splashed down in the Ohio River, which is considered part of the neighboring state.

The home run was estimated to have travelled 535 feet, still the longest hit in the history of the six-year-old park.

“It actually landed on a piece of driftwood,” said Reds publicist Rob Butcher, who is serving Team USA in the same capacity, “and floated down the river.”

Dunn is the only player to hit 40 or more home runs in each of the last five seasons. He hit 40 last season, which he split between the Reds and Arizona Diamondbacks. Twenty-seven of those home runs travelled 400 feet or more, according to Greg Rybarczyk, the former Naval nuclear engineer who tracks such things on his website, hittrackeronline.com. Seven of Dunn’s homers traveled 450 feet or more, including the last one he hit in 2008, a 497-foot blast in Arizona’s Chase Field off the Rockies’ Glendon Rusch on Sept. 27. That was the longest home run hit by anyone last season, and Dunn averaged a major-league best 412.7 feet per homer.

I found it interesting that Dunn had the longest home run of the season again last year, while also leading the league in average homer length. If he makes square contact it is gone.

Topcat
03-04-2009, 03:41 AM
I came across an interesting article on Yahoo by Gordon Edes. It discusses Adam Dunn as a member of the USA team in the World Baseball Classic this spring.

The article is very long, so I am just posting the first few paragraphs because they are relevant to this thread.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ge-dunn030309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns



I found it interesting that Dunn had the longest home run of the season again last year, while also leading the league in average homer length. If he makes square contact it is gone.


Love Adam's Bat ,sadly I have concluded though the layers is a DH and that does not fly as a NL player.:(

WebScorpion
03-07-2009, 01:25 AM
I'm surprised nobody has ever tried to maximize Adam's value by placing him in a massive pitcher-friendly park...RFK would have been good if the Nats still played there. ;) It might slightly effect his homer output, but it would devastate the opponents. If you took a team like the 2009 Cincinnati Reds, built on pitching, defense, and speed, put them in a park with 400 foot fences all around, and added Adam Dunn, you might be unstoppable. :D
Just a thought. :p:

AtomicDumpling
03-08-2009, 01:33 AM
Representing Our Nation
Adam Dunn crosses the plate after hitting a home run against Canada in the World Baseball Classic.

http://por-img.cimcontent.net/api/assets/bin-200903/c12afb1df4b83e97a54807f29f2aad26.jpg

Ron Madden
03-08-2009, 01:38 AM
Good for Adam!!!

:clap::clap::clap:

AtomicDumpling
04-11-2009, 03:04 AM
On Opening Day Adam Dunn hit his 279th career home run. The blast tied him with former Reds great Ted Kluszewski for 145th place on the all-time home run list.

Next up on the list are Paul O'Neill and Carlos Lee with 281 home runs.

Adam's 1st homer as a Washington National was a three-run shot off the Marlins young stud hurler Ricky Nolasco, who became the 197th pitcher Dunn has taken deep. The blast was a towering stand-and-watch shot against the wind. He had another hit that went for a double but would have been a dinger if not for the wind blowing in. Dunn has now hit 6 homers on Opening Day in the last 5 years.

I couldn't find a picture of the Opening Day homer, so I thought I would post one of Adam's taters from the World Baseball Classic instead:

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/03/16/alg_adam-dunn.jpg

Adam started off 2009 doing the same thing he did all of 2008 -- catching one of the games greatest sluggers on the career home run list. This time it was one of the most popular players in Cincinnati Reds history.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/da/Big_klu.jpg/180px-Big_klu.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_V7IT9bKqNuA/RvJqpB9tWOI/AAAAAAAAAus/OeOAnWu3rTM/s400/Ted_Klu.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UXP1TiZHls0/ScMP75AesPI/AAAAAAAAAbo/3CwGKuimQ7M/s400/ted+kluszewski+1956.jpg

Ted Kluszewski - Played Until Age: 37 Career HR: 279 Career AB: 5,929 Top Season: 49 HRs

The Big Klu made the All Star Team 4 times in a row in the mid-fifties and came in 2nd in the MVP voting in 1954 when he led the league in home runs with 49 and in RBIs with 141. He Set a National League record for scoring runs in consecutive games with 17. He set a major league record by leading all first basemen in fielding percentage for five consecutive years.

Kluszweski played before my time so there are lots of things I didn't know about him until now. I knew he was a giant of a man and a powerful slugger, but I did not know he also hit for an excellent batting average and was a good defensive player. I will post a biography here, but if any of you have any good anecdotes about Big Klu please feel free to post them here. How many of you were fortunate enough to see him play in person?

He was discovered at Indiana University, where he played football as well as baseball. Due to wartime travel restrictions, the Reds, who normally held spring training in Tampa, Florida, were forced to train at the university from 1943 to 1945. Kluszewski drew the attention of Reds' groundskeeper Matty Schwab, who saw Kluszewski blasting balls over an embankment near the baseball diamond that none of the other Reds players were able to get near. Reds scouts were sufficiently impressed, but Kluszewski, who was also a standout tight end on the Hoosiers' football squad, did not immediately sign, because he didn't want to endanger his collegiate football eligibility. Instead, he signed after he graduated in 1946. After batting .325 and .377 in two minor league seasons, he was called up to Cincinnati and became the Reds' starting first baseman at the end of 1948.

Soon after the 6'-2" 240-pound Kluszewski joined the Reds he cut off the sleeves of his uniform, much to the chagrin of the Reds front office. He did it because the tight sleeves constricted his large biceps and shoulders and interfered with his swing. "They got pretty upset, but it was either that or change my swing — and I wasn't about to change my swing" said Kluszewski. Ted Kluszewski also became notorious for his strength. When Hall of Fame manager Leo Durocher was once asked by a writer to name five of the strongest players in baseball he complied. However, when the writer pointed out that he'd left Ted Kluszewski off the list, Durocher huffed and said: "Kluszewski? I'm talking about human beings!"

Ted Kluszewski was selected as an All-Star in four seasons, and was a career .298 hitter with 279 home runs and 1028 RBI. In ten of his fifteen seasons, Kluszewski walked (492) more often than he struck out (365). In 1955, he hit 47 homers while striking out only 40 times. No player since him has hit 40 homers and struck out 40 or fewer times in the same season (Barry Bonds missed duplicating this feat by one strikeout in 2004).

"Big Klu" enjoyed his most productive years from 1953 through 1956, with home run totals of 40, 49, 47 and 35 while driving in over 100 baserunners in each, including a league-leading 141 RBIs in 1954. He also hit .300 or better eight times. Kluszewski also led National League first basemen in fielding percentage five straight years, a major league record.

However, injuries began taking their toll; Kluszewski was limited to playing just four full seasons in his fifteen-year career. He spent his last four seasons switching teams. He was traded to the Pittsburgh Pirates before the 1958 season, and in August 1959 he was sent to the Chicago White Sox to give the team added punch. They eventually won the American League pennant and faced the National League champs, the Los Angeles Dodgers, in the World Series. In the first game at Chicago's Comiskey Park, Kluszewski slugged two home runs and drove in five in an 11-0 rout of the Dodgers. However, the Dodgers would win the next four out of five games and take the series with strong pitching that neutralized the White Sox' hitters — except for Kluszewski, who hit .391 with three home runs and ten RBIs, which tied Gil Hodges' mark set in the same series. About that time, Sox owner Bill Veeck introduced uniforms with players' names on the backs, above the numbers. Veeck deliberately spelled Ted's last name wrong.

When Major League Baseball decided to expand in 1960, Kluszewski was one of the players left unprotected. He was selected by the Los Angeles Angels. Kluszewski was the undisputed star of the Angels' first game ever, on April 11, 1961 against the Baltimore Orioles at Memorial Stadium, belting two home runs off the Orioles' Milt Pappas.

Post-retirement, Kluszewski was a hitting coach, most notably under Sparky Anderson with the Cincinnati Reds during their outstanding teams in the early and mid 1970's, which saw them win World Series championships in 1975 and 1976. In 1979, he became the Reds' minor league hitting instructor, a position he held until 1986, when he suffered a massive heart attack and underwent emergency bypass surgery. He retired afterward.

Kluszewski, Gus Bell and Bob Thurman became the second trio of teammates with a three-home run game in the same season, sharing a major league single season record with Duke Snider, Roy Campanella and Tommy Brown of the 1950 Brooklyn Dodgers and Cory Snyder, Joe Carter and Brook Jacoby of the 1987 Cleveland Indians.

Kluszewski was inducted into the Cincinnati Reds Hall of Fame and Museum in 1962. Before the inaugural game at Great American Ball Park in 2003 the Reds dedicated a bronze statue of Kluszewski on the Crosley Terrace area outside the main gate. Statues of Crosley Field era stars Ernie Lombardi, Joe Nuxhall, and Frank Robinson were erected later. Ted Kluszewski is prominently mentioned in the first line of the chorus to Terry Cashman's 1981 song "Talkin' Baseball," a musical tribute to baseball.

Ted Kluszewski died on March 29, 1988 in Cincinnati at age 63. His #18 was retired by the Reds on July 18, 1998 before a game against the visiting San Diego Padres at Cinergy Field

http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2009-03/45601200.jpg

Adam Dunn - Current Age: 29 Career HR: 279 Career AB: 3881 Top Season: 46 HRs

Adam is off to a great start for the Nationals. His batting average is over .300 and his OPS is over 1.200 and he leads the team in RBIs and Runs. It is still too early to mean anything though.

Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list in 2009:

279 Ted Kluszewski

Note: Please keep this thread about Dunn's historical accomplishments and the players he is passing. No controversial comments please.

mth123
04-11-2009, 07:15 AM
The best thread on redszone is back. Great write-up on Klu.

Degenerate39
04-11-2009, 09:19 AM
He looks like a giant compared to Roberts

Joseph
04-11-2009, 10:14 AM
He looks like a giant compared to Roberts

So do horse jockeys

Highlifeman21
04-11-2009, 10:16 AM
He looks like a giant compared to Roberts

When I see that pic of Roberts and Dunn together, Dunn just reminds me of Shrek.

Dunno why.

Glad this thread is back and better than ever!

cincyinco
04-13-2009, 12:32 AM
Couldn't agree more.

Huzzah!

AtomicDumpling
04-22-2009, 03:32 AM
Adam Dunn hit home run #280 last week off Phillies hurler Clay Condrey. It was the second time Dunn has taken Condrey deep in his career. Nobody else has 280 homers, so Dunn didn't catch anybody with the homer and remained in 145th place.

In the Nationals next game Dunn jacked a 3-run blast in the first inning off Joe Blanton of the Phillies for #281. That was the first time Dunn had homered off Blanton, who became the 198th victim of Adam's career. This home run tied him with former Reds great Paul O'Neill for 144th place on the all-time list of the games greatest sluggers. Next up with 282 home runs are Eric Davis, Ryne Sandberg and Ken Boyer.

#280 off Condrey:
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090413/capt.8c0932fa19d54af6932915ae844e99d8.phillies_nat ionals_baseball_dcab103.jpg

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090413/capt.2f15245902a24302a868b0f64d25e014.phillies_nat ionals_baseball_dcev118.jpg

#281 off Blanton:
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090417/capt.0a972ce2eabe4830b32a7f7675a65c7d.phillies_nat ionals_baseball_dccd105.jpg

Here is a bio of the player Dunn caught with this home run:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/2001/03/27/sayitaintso_reds/oneill_all.jpg http://www.baseball-almanac.com/baseball_cards/samples/1986_Donruss.jpg http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/mlb/2001/0603/photo/a_oneill_i.jpg

Paul O'Neill - Played Until Age: 38 Career HR: 281 Career AB: 7318 Top Season: 28 HRs

O'Neill won five World Series while playing for the Reds and Yankees. In a 17 year career, O'Neill compiled a lifetime batting average of .288, 281 home runs, 1,269 runs batted in and 2,105 hits. O'Neill won the American League batting title in 1994 with a .359 average. He was also a five-time All-Star, making the team in 1991, 1994, 1995, 1997, and 1998.

Like most sweet-swinging lefthanded batters, Paul O'Neill drew comparisons to the legendary Ted Williams in his youth. Although he once carried a .400 batting average into mid-June, it was the intensity -- and at times rage -- that O'Neill brought to his at-bats which most reminded people of the "Splendid Splinter."

A direct descendant of Mark Twain, O'Neill was born in 1963 in Columbus, Ohio. In high school he was primarily a pitcher, and he earned All-State honors in both baseball and basketball. After being drafted by Cincinnati, O'Neill rose rapidly through the Reds' farm system and made his major league debut on September 3, 1985, singling on the first pitch he saw from Jeff Lahti. Eight days later he watched from the bench as Pete Rose collected his record-setting 4,192nd hit.

As a kid, O'Neill and his family were fans of the Reds. On a visit to Crosley Field shortly before it closed, six-year-old Paul had his picture taken wearing a Reds batting helmet and holding a toy bat. Over his shoulder could be seen Roberto Clemente of the opposing Pittsburgh Pirates. Like Clemente, O'Neill would become a right fielder and wear uniform number 21.

There is one play I remember very clearly from Paul's time with the Reds. In a 1989 game against the Phillies O'Neill fielded a base hit but couldn't hold onto it. He kicked it back to the infield to prevent baserunner Steve Jeltz from scoring. It was a perfect long line-drive kick all the way to the cutoff man. The play is often seen on baseball highlights and bloopers shows.

An integral part of the 1990 World Champion club, O'Neill hit .270 with sixteen home runs and finished second on the team to Eric Davis with 78 RBIs. (Incidentally, Adam Dunn will tie Eric Davis with his next home run). In his first three years with Cincinnati, O'Neill matured into an excellent outfielder, but the Reds wanted him to hit with more power. In 1991, O'Neill responded by belting a career-high 28 home runs and driving in 91 runs. But the emphasis on the long ball came at the expense of the 28-year-old's development as an all-around hitter. O'Neill's average dropped to .256 and he struck out a career-high 107 times. When he slipped to .246 with just fourteen home runs in 1992, the Reds were convinced that his best days were already behind him.

Only a couple years later the Reds traded O'Neill to the Yankees for Roberto Kelly. That was a mistake. With a power-laden lineup that featured sluggers Danny Tartabull and Mike Stanley, the Yankees didn't ask O'Neill to swing for the fences and the young outfielder began hitting the ball to all fields. "When you're 6' 4'' and you hit some balls out, everybody's thinking that you're a home run hitter," O'Neill said. "And you try to do that more. But for me to try to pull an outside pitch -- that's not me. I see people do that and wonder how they're able to. I can't go up there thinking 'hit the ball to right field'."

Ironically, O'Neill's new approach sent his batting average soaring without hurting his power numbers. He hit 20 round-trippers in his first season in New York and after a career-low batting average in his final season with the Reds, O'Neill topped .300 for the first time with a .311 mark.

The following season, O'Neill showed the numbers he was capable of producing. He opened the season hitting .448 in April and followed that up with a .410 May. O'Neill didn't drop below .400 until June 17th. When the players' strike ended the season on August 14th, it ruined great seasons for both O'Neill, who was batting a league-high .359, and for the Yankees, who owned a league-best 70-43 record.

Although his production pleased the Yankees and their fans, O'Neill never seemed capable of satisfying himself. In many ways he was ill-suited to the particular demands of baseball, a sport where failing twice in three tries counts as great success. When he couldn't come up with a necessary hit or perform to his expectations, O'Neill brooded incessantly or took out his rage on his batting helmet or any other dugout objects which he found in his path. Often O'Neill would drop his head when he left the batter's box after making poor contact, as if ashamed of himself. At times his standard of perfection went to such outrageous lengths that he could be seen bowing his head even after pitches he hadn't hit quite right ended up in the first rows of the left field corner bleachers for a well-placed home run.

In his first six seasons with New York, O'Neill always hit at least .300. Although he never developed into a major power threat, he was one of the most frightening hitters in the American League. His well-built frame and vicious swing made it look as if he could easily launch balls into the far reaches of the bleachers, and his prowess with men on base justified the respect pitchers afforded him.

In 1994, with O'Neill winning the batting title, the Yankees led the East division by six and a half games when a players' strike ended the season. The next season, the Yankees made the playoffs, and did so in every season for the remainder of O'Neill's career. He was an integral member of the New York Yankees' last dynasty, helping them to win the World Series in 1996, 1998, 1999, and 2000. He ended Game 5 of the 1996 World Series by robbing Luis Polonia of the Atlanta Braves of an extra-base hit, preserving a 1–0 victory for the Yankees.

O'Neill famously was his own worst critic, seemingly never satisfied with his own performance and known for his emotion on the field. When disappointed with his performance or angry with an umpire's decision he would attack water coolers or toss bats on the field. His tirades were both praised and criticized by the media and fans. I can remember him getting ticked off every time he made an out, throwing his helmet and cussing to himself.

O'Neill is fondly remembered by Yankee fans as the "heart and soul" of the team's dynasty in the 1990s. Yankee owner George Steinbrenner also labeled him as a "Warrior." He was given this nickname due to his passion and love for the game.

In Game 5 of the 2001 World Series O'Neill received an emotional sendoff from New York fans. While standing in right field in the 9th inning with the Yankees down 2–0, the entire stadium chanted his name. When the inning ended, O'Neill was still being cheered. With tears in his eyes, he tipped his cap, and another roar went up from the crowd at Yankee Stadium. The Yankees won the game 3-2, but lost the series 4 games to 3. Since his retirement after the 2001 World Series, his number 21 has not been worn by any Yankee player, leading to speculation that it will be officially retired. Yankees relief pitcher LaTroy Hawkins briefly wore the number in the 2008 season but Hawkins switched to number 22 in response to the criticism he received by many Yankee fans, all the more suggesting that number 21 may one day be retired for O'Neill.

In 1995, while still a player for the Yankees, O'Neill was featured in a cameo role on Seinfeld. In the episode entitled "The Wink," O'Neill is accosted by Cosmo Kramer in the Yankees' locker room and is told by Kramer that he must hit two home runs in the same game so that Kramer can retrieve a birthday card signed by all the Yankees from a little boy who wasn't supposed to get it in the first place. O'Neill angrily replies that this is very difficult and that he is not usually a home run hitter. He then asks Kramer "How the hell did you get in here?" In the ensuing game, O'Neill does hit two home runs, but one of them is an inside-the-park home run, so the little boy Kramer is trying to appease is not totally satisfied. Kramer manages to get the Yankee-signed birthday card back from the boy, but promised the boy that O'Neill will catch a fly ball in his hat during the next game.

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/09/24/sp_giants263.jpg

Adam Dunn - Current Age: 29 Career HR: 279 Career AB: 3881 Top Season: 46 HRs

Adam is off to a great start for the Nationals. His batting average is .316 and his OPS is over 1.159 and he has walked twice as often as he has struck out. He leads the Nationals in HRs and RBIs and is second in Runs.

Players that Adam Dunn has passed on the career home run list in 2009:

281 Paul O'Neill
279 Ted Kluszewski


Note: Please keep this thread about Dunn's historical accomplishments and the players he is passing. No controversial comments please.

WMR
04-22-2009, 03:40 AM
simply masterful work. I'm tempted to print and bind a copy of this thread for my own.

KronoRed
04-22-2009, 04:29 AM
Nice as always :clap:

Degenerate39
04-22-2009, 09:39 AM
He'll be closing on on 300 before he turns 30

dfs
04-22-2009, 11:45 AM
simply masterful work. I'm tempted to print and bind a copy of this thread for my own.
Boy, you got that right.

How did I just find this thread?

BuckeyeRedleg
04-22-2009, 11:50 AM
That bio on O'Neill is one of the better things I've ever read on this board.

Well done.

Nasty_Boy
04-22-2009, 12:27 PM
I'm waiting on the write up on #282 from last night! Great thread!

WMR
04-22-2009, 12:36 PM
AD: One thought. It might be worthwhile to host the photos that you post in this thread in your own photobucket account. I see that some of the photos from earlier in the thread have disappeared.

RichRed
04-22-2009, 02:30 PM
That bio on O'Neill is one of the better things I've ever read on this board.

Well done.

O'Neill for Roberto Kelly - that one still hurts. And it highlights the folly of trying to turn a player into something he's not.

Great thread.

OnBaseMachine
04-22-2009, 02:54 PM
I love this thread. Keep up the good work, AD.

Dunner is off to an amazing start, as he's hitting .310/.508/.667 - 1.175 OPS with 17 walks to nine strikeouts.

If he stays healthy, Dunn has a chance to put up some scary numbers in his career. I'm talking 600+ homers and 1500+ walks. Only nine players in the history of the game have hit 500+ homers and walked 1500+ times. Right now, Dunn is at 282 homers and 814 walks.

Nasty_Boy
04-22-2009, 04:45 PM
1.175 OPS

What is this OPS you speak of?:D

remdog
04-22-2009, 05:31 PM
O'Neill was never a Reds great. He was a good player for the Reds but his best years came with the Yankees.

As for the Kelly/O'Neill trade, when it was made it fit the needs of both teams. And that's how trades should be judged. Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't.

Rem

Always Red
04-22-2009, 07:11 PM
That bio on O'Neill is one of the better things I've ever read on this board.

Well done.

This is true.

AD, that was an awesome post! :beerme:

AtomicDumpling
04-23-2009, 12:41 AM
I appreciate your comments, but if at all possible it would be great if we can avoid any controversial topics in this thread. We don't want the thread to be locked again. Thanks! :thumbup:

Redsfaithful
04-23-2009, 05:16 AM
Really looking forward to the Eric Davis write up, just wanted to chime in saying I love this thread.

deltachi8
04-23-2009, 10:48 AM
Terrific thread, love reading it. If anyone doesn't, well, change the channel...

Chip R
04-23-2009, 10:54 AM
After considerable debate and hand wringing we decided to keep threads like these open. Please don't make us close them again by arguing why this is or is not a legitimate thread. Leave that decision to the mods, Boss and GIK.

Cyclone792
04-23-2009, 10:56 AM
Outstanding updates, AD. I look forward to future updates so please keep them coming.

gonelong
04-23-2009, 11:01 AM
I'll be sorely disappointed if we lose this thread. It's a great read every couple of days to stroll down memory lane and remember some of the players Dunn happens to be passing with his HR totals.

GL

nate
04-23-2009, 11:04 AM
Thanks for the AD updates, AD!

AtomicDumpling
04-23-2009, 04:05 PM
Thanks to all of you that have posted your enjoyment of the thread. I appreciate your comments. It takes a lot of work to create the updates and bios but the fact most people appreciate it makes it a fun job.

Now I feel tons of pressure to make the posts live up to your expectations! :eek:

I am working on the next update for homer #282. It is going to be a long post because Dunn caught three famous players with his latest dinger. I am also adding a new wrinkle or two to the updates that I think you will find interesting.

If you have any ideas to improve the thread please let me know. Also, if you have any extra anecdotes or information about Adam Dunn, his homers, or especially the players he is passing please feel free to post them in this thread.

BuckeyeRedleg
04-23-2009, 04:27 PM
Just an idea here, but I think this would be a wonderful book. I'm not kidding. Mini-biographies on the top HR's hitters of all time as a truly great HR hitter passes them by.

WMR
04-23-2009, 05:19 PM
Thanks to all of you that have posted your enjoyment of the thread. I appreciate your comments. It takes a lot of work to create the updates and bios but the fact most people appreciate it makes it a fun job.

Now I feel tons of pressure to make the posts live up to your expectations! :eek:

I am working on the next update for homer #282. It is going to be a long post because Dunn caught three famous players with his latest dinger. I am also adding a new wrinkle or two to the updates that I think you will find interesting.

If you have any ideas to improve the thread please let me know. Also, if you have any extra anecdotes or information about Adam Dunn, his homers, or especially the players he is passing please feel free to post them in this thread.

AD: Did you read my suggestion about hosting the pics that you post in your own photobucket account? Some of the earlier pictures have disappeared because the website that they were linked from has removed them and/or changed the link.

Highlifeman21
04-23-2009, 05:54 PM
AD: Did you read my suggestion about hosting the pics that you post in your own photobucket account? Some of the earlier pictures have disappeared because the website that they were linked from has removed them and/or changed the link.

*Baseclogger* and others told me they mostly ignore anything you suggest.

;)

WMR
04-23-2009, 05:56 PM
*Baseclogger* and others told me they mostly ignore anything you suggest.

;)

The Clogger is a wily little bugger. :D

*BaseClogger*
04-23-2009, 05:59 PM
Ever since he passed me in the fantasy league I have refused to talk to him... :evil:

Highlifeman21
04-23-2009, 07:02 PM
Did Dunn hit a HR while wearing the Majestic snafu jersey the other night?

Ron Madden
04-24-2009, 05:37 AM
Thanks again AtomicDumplig, keep up the good work, I love this thread.

:thumbup:

AtomicDumpling
04-24-2009, 05:08 PM
AD: Did you read my suggestion about hosting the pics that you post in your own photobucket account? Some of the earlier pictures have disappeared because the website that they were linked from has removed them and/or changed the link.

Yes. I realize that is a problem. I will look into Photobucket for sure.

top6
04-25-2009, 11:08 AM
Wow AD, great posts.

One quibble:


In the ensuing game, O'Neill does hit two home runs, but one of them is an inside-the-park home run, so the little boy Kramer is trying to appease is not totally satisfied.

In fact, the boy is at first happy with the inside-the-park home run, but then the announcer says that it is being scored a triple with a throwing error!




Dunner is off to an amazing start, as he's hitting .310/.508/.667 - 1.175 OPS with 17 walks to nine strikeouts.

If he stays healthy, Dunn has a chance to put up some scary numbers in his career. I'm talking 600+ homers and 1500+ walks. Only nine players in the history of the game have hit 500+ homers and walked 1500+ times. Right now, Dunn is at 282 homers and 814 walks.

Agreed. Also, interesting to note that Dunn has struck out 11 times this year. The Hairston/Dickerson platoon of awesomeness has struck out 16 times. That will be a fun number for me to track this year, after decades (seemingly) of listening to Marty talk about how Dunn's strike outs were killing the team.

Degenerate39
04-28-2009, 11:21 PM
Dunn has 6 homers on the season now and has 284 career homers

TRF
04-29-2009, 03:47 PM
I don't want to derail the thread, but as of this date Dunner is hitting:

.328 .488 .656 1.144

AND he doesn't lead the team in strikeouts. He has four guys ahead of him and Kearns nipping at his heels. Amazing start to the season for Dunn.

Degenerate39
05-02-2009, 09:36 PM
Dunn has 6 homers on the season now and has 284 career homers

Now has 7 home runs on the season and 285 career dingers

OnBaseMachine
05-08-2009, 01:47 PM
Comparison of the day
From Darin Pritchett, WSBT Radio South Bend...seen during Washington-Atlan telecast
Through 3,910 career bats
Adam Dunn/Hank Aaron
HR 281 / 209
RBI 683 / 700
OB% .383 / .370
XBHits 493 / 477

http://www.1530homer.com/pages/lancesBlog.html

Jpup
05-09-2009, 06:16 AM
I watched Dunn go yard again last night against the D-backs.

RFS62
05-09-2009, 08:10 AM
Outstanding work, AD.

Really well done. Thanks for all the effort.

:beerme:

TeamMorris
05-10-2009, 12:41 AM
And yet another tonight (5/9).

Degenerate39
05-10-2009, 06:59 PM
And yet another tonight (5/9).

And two more today. Grand total of 11 on the year thus far.

smith288
05-11-2009, 11:59 AM
32 Ks. On pace to K 173 times!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

On pace to hit 59 homers.

(for those ready to flame, im kidding...relax)

jojo
05-11-2009, 12:24 PM
32 Ks. On pace to K 173 times!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

On pace to hit 59 homers.

(for those ready to flame, im kidding...relax)

Dunn is on pace to end the season with 1417 career strikeouts. If that does indeed occur, here are the list of guys he'll potentially pass on the all-time strikeout list (a few above him are still active):



rank player SO
61 R. Clayton 1415
62 Ron Gant 1411
63 Darrell Evans 1410
64 Rob Deer 1409
65 Jay Buhner 1406
66 Eric Davis 1398
67 Frank Thomas 1397
68 Derek Jeter 1396
69 C Yastrzemski 1393
70 Jose Hernandez 1391
71 Joe Carter 1387
72 Carlton Fisk 1386
73 Hank Aaron 1383
74 Jeromy Burnitz 1376
75 Travis Fryman 1369
76 Matt Williams 1363
77 Danny Tartabull 1362
78 Tim Salmon 1360
79 Larry Parrish 1359
80 D Strawberry 1352
81 Robin Yount 1350
82 Rafael Palmeiro 1348
83 Ron Santo 1343
84 Julio Franco 1341
85 Ellis Burks 1340
86 Gorman Thomas 1339
87 Dean Palmer 1332
88 Jason Giambi 1330
89 Babe Ruth 1330
90 Deron Johnson 1318
91 Cecil Fielder 1316
92 Shawn Green 1315
93 Richie Sexson 1313
94 Willie Horton 1313
95 Jimmie Foxx 1311
96 Ivan Rodriguez 1310
97 M Tettleton 1307
98 Tim Wallach 1307
99 Cal Ripken 1305
100 Steve Finley 1299
101 Pat Burrell 1298
102 Bret Boone 1295
103 Jose Valentin 1294
104 Derrek Lee 1289
105 Adam Dunn 1288


This isn't a thread derail by the way.... Dunn will be passing guys like Ripken, Foxx, Ruth, Yastrzemski, and Aaron.

WMR
05-11-2009, 01:24 PM
Hank Aaron K'd over 1300 times? Somebody get Dusty on the phone for confirmation, I don't believe it.

princeton
05-11-2009, 03:54 PM
in their era, Foxx and Ruth were discussed the way kids of my generation discussed Rob Deer and Dave Kingman.

but compared to hitters that they helped to create, they come across as contact hitters.

M2
05-11-2009, 05:30 PM
Dunn is on pace to end the season with 1417 career strikeouts.

I believe that anyone who passes Jay Buhner's career totals is eligible to apply for federal stimulus money as a wind farm.

smith288
05-12-2009, 12:18 PM
I believe that anyone who passes Jay Buhner's career totals is eligible to apply for federal stimulus money as a wind farm.
Jay Buhner had a look though. That has to count for something.

Chip R
05-12-2009, 12:25 PM
Jay Buhner had a look though. That has to count for something.


Frank Costanza is still wondering why the Yankees traded him.

M2
05-12-2009, 12:44 PM
Jay Buhner had a look though. That has to count for something.

Don't get me wrong. I loved Buhner, but he whiffed a lot. He's one of those guys who serves as proof that high strikeout totals more often than not are attached to really good players.

Ron Madden
05-13-2009, 03:47 AM
I enjoy reading this thread because it contains a lot of research and is very well written.

Please, let's not ruin it with the tired old argument concerning strikeouts.

Thanks. :)

Boss-Hog
05-13-2009, 11:20 AM
I enjoy reading this thread because it contains a lot of research and is very well written.

Please, let's not ruin it with the tired old argument concerning strikeouts.

Thanks. :)
Agreed - if this thread is going to remain open, it needs to be used for its original intent.

Degenerate39
05-26-2009, 10:40 PM
Another homer today so that puts him up to 15 I believe

Eric_the_Red
05-27-2009, 08:54 AM
Another homer today so that puts him up to 15 I believe

Yep, and I read that 15 already beats out last season's Nationals HR leaders, Zimmerman & Milledge (14 each). Can anyone think of the last time a player hit as many HR in one season as the team's top 2 HR hitters did the prior year?

2008:
Milledge - 14
Zimmerman - 14
Dukes - 13
Harris - 13

2009:
Dunn -15

edabbs44
05-27-2009, 09:50 AM
Yep, and I read that 15 already beats out last season's Nationals HR leaders, Zimmerman & Milledge (14 each). Can anyone think of the last time a player hit as many HR in one season as the team's top 2 HR hitters did the prior year?

2008:
Milledge - 14
Zimmerman - 14
Dukes - 13
Harris - 13

2009:
Dunn -15

Bonds hit 46 in his first season with San Fran. The top 3 hitters in 1992 for the Giants had 50 combined.

nate
05-27-2009, 09:56 AM
This was in Yahoo's "player notes" today:


OF Adam Dunn recorded the 1,000th hit of his career Tuesday night with a second-inning single to left against the Mets. One of the most prolific power hitters of his time, Dunn has 292 homers. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, the only player in history with a higher homer-to-hit ratio than Dunn's 29.2 percent is 1B Mark McGwire, who had 583 homers and 1,623 hits (35.8 percent).

Dunn's a good 2/3rds of the way to Big Mac hit-wise and halfway to his HR total. Not bad.

Degenerate39
05-27-2009, 10:24 AM
Dunn may get his 300th career homer before the All Star Break. He needs 7 more

Degenerate39
05-27-2009, 10:08 PM
16th homer of the season today

CarolinaRedleg
05-27-2009, 10:31 PM
This was in Yahoo's "player notes" today:



Dunn's a good 2/3rds of the way to Big Mac hit-wise and halfway to his HR total. Not bad.

And he did it legit. Even better.

buckeyenut
05-27-2009, 10:57 PM
This was in Yahoo's "player notes" today:



Dunn's a good 2/3rds of the way to Big Mac hit-wise and halfway to his HR total. Not bad.
Now that he is hitting his prime, I'd love to see Dunner put up 50 per for 2-3 years and get himself in range for a run at Bonds/Arod territory. I think he can have a Hank Aaron type career, nice long one consistently full of 40+ years.

flyer85
05-27-2009, 11:02 PM
what made Aaron special was his 35-39 years, the other non cheating sluggers all hit a wall in their mid 30s. Aaron was the same player 35-39 that he was 25-29.

mth123
05-28-2009, 04:44 AM
16th homer of the season today

465 footer off of Johan Santana. Pretty impressive IMO.

RichRed
05-28-2009, 10:58 AM
465 footer off of Johan Santana. Pretty impressive IMO.

I watched it as it happened. He absolutely mauled it.

OnBaseMachine
07-04-2009, 04:19 PM
Dunner hit his 300th career homer today. Congrats to Adam!

Blitz Dorsey
07-04-2009, 04:34 PM
Great to see Dunner doing well. (OK, it's because he's on my fantasy baseball team in my $$ league.)

OnBaseMachine
07-04-2009, 04:48 PM
Dunn's blast snaps Hanson's streak

WASHINGTON -- Nationals slugger Adam Dunn hit his 300th career home run Saturday, ending Braves rookie Tommy Hanson's consecutive scoreless innings streak at 26 with the milestone blast.

Dunn hit a 2-2 fastball two-thirds of the way up the second deck in right field leading off the seventh inning, cutting Atlanta's lead to 3-1.

Dunn is the fifth major league player this season to reach the 300-homer plateau, joining Houston's Lance Berkman and Ivan Rodriguez, and Jermaine Dye and Paul Konerko of the Chicago White Sox.

The 29-year-old is the fifth player major league history to reach that total in less than 4,200 at-bats, succeeding in his 4,145th at-bat. The others are Babe Ruth (3,830), Mark McGwire (3,837), Ralph Kiner (3,883) and Harmon Killebrew (3,928

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4306162

redsfandan
07-04-2009, 05:18 PM
Think he was the 5th fastest to 300.

edit: nm didn't see that OBM already had that posted.

Ron Madden
07-04-2009, 06:04 PM
Good for Adam. Hope he hits 300 more.

:thumbup:

Reds1
07-04-2009, 06:26 PM
Good for Adam. Hope he hits 300 more.

:thumbup:

Me too. I have a small fortune in baseball cards.

Degenerate39
07-04-2009, 07:55 PM
I'm glad to see my favorite player get this mile stone. I just wish it was with the Reds

mth123
10-05-2009, 04:11 AM
Bumping the best thread since I've been on Redszone to post some season ending facts. Not to steal Atomic Dumpling's thunder because he did such a great job with this thread, but here goes. Adam Dunn's streak of 40 HR seasons has come to an end, but he did hit 38 which gives him a streak of 6 straight years of 35+. In another thread, Dougdirt posted that only A-Rod, Sosa, Palmeiro, Foxx, Ruth, Mays and Kiner have done that. 4 HOF and 3 roid guys.

Dunn finishes with 316 Career HR which puts him in a tie with Ron Cey for 106th on the all time list. In 2009 he passed Reds greats Ted Kluszewski, Paul O'Neill, Eric Davis and Reggie Sanders. Dunn also passed HOFers Ryne Sandberg, Rickey Henderson, Chuck Klein, Rogers Hornsby and Al Simmons. Next up is HOFer George Brett with 317. 35 HR in 2010 will also put him past HOFers Gary Carter and Hank Greenberg. He'll also pass former Reds sluggers Ron Gant, Dave Parker and George Foster. 40 will get him past Greg Vaughn and Lee May as well.

Thanks for this thread AD.

buckeyenut
10-05-2009, 12:48 PM
Very disappointed AD didn't get to 40. But he still had a great season.

redsmetz
05-12-2010, 08:49 AM
I was looking over the list of All Time home run leaders and see that Adam Dunn has cracked the top 100 on May 4th when he hit #321, tying Ron Gant. Dunn moved into the #100 slot on 5/6 with his 322nd homer. David Ortiz is at 321 too, so it's possible that Adam and he will leapfrog each other some this season, although that's not a given.

membengal
05-12-2010, 08:57 AM
Nah, Dunn will leave Ortiz in his dust as the year evolves. Ortiz is a shell of what he once was.

Razor Shines
05-12-2010, 08:57 AM
He's got a good shot to tie Chili Davis at #79 (350) by the end of the season.

membengal
05-12-2010, 08:58 AM
I was a baseball fan during Chili Davis' entire career. And I can honestly say, I had no idea he had gotten to 350 career homeruns. I am amazed by that.

ETA:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/davisch01.shtml

2380 career hits, 350 homeruns, and almost 1400 RBI from 1981 to 1999.

Wow. Somehow, not aware of what his career amounted to. Which was pretty darn good. And then some.

macro
05-12-2010, 09:35 AM
I was a baseball fan during Chili Davis' entire career. And I can honestly say, I had no idea he had gotten to 350 career homeruns. I am amazed by that.

ETA:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/davisch01.shtml

2380 career hits, 350 homruns, and almost 1400 RBI from 1981 to 1999.

Wow. Somehow, not aware of what his career amounted to. Which was pretty darn good. And then some.

His career numbers are shocking, actually, given that he hit 30 HR in a season only once, had 100 RBI in a season only once, and his 167 hits in his rookie season were a career high. Furthermore, he made the All Star team only three times, so that might explain why his career numbers come as a surprise.

redsmetz
05-12-2010, 09:42 AM
I was a baseball fan during Chili Davis' entire career. And I can honestly say, I had no idea he had gotten to 350 career homeruns. I am amazed by that.

ETA:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/davisch01.shtml

2380 career hits, 350 homruns, and almost 1400 RBI from 1981 to 1999.

Wow. Somehow, not aware of what his career amounted to. Which was pretty darn good. And then some.

I was also surprised to see Chili Davis on that list. Surprised me quite a lot.

BTW, I agree that Dunn is likely to leave Ortiz in the rearview mirror. At this moment, it's possible Ortiz could hit a couple to leap over him, but by season's end, it won't be that way.

flyer85
05-12-2010, 10:12 AM
Nah, Dunn will leave Ortiz in his dust as the year evolves. Ortiz is a shell of what he once was.also who knows how old Ortiz really is.

Ghosts of 1990
05-12-2010, 10:30 AM
Dunn is going to finish with 550 to 600 home runs and they're going to be clean. He's going to the Hall of Fame. I miss this guy so much.

camisadelgolf
05-12-2010, 10:48 AM
I can't believe so many people are already writing off Big Papi. Last year on June 2nd, he had a line of .186/.282/.284. After that, he put up a line of .265/.357/.553 to finish up a solid year. I agree that he's on the downside of his career, but as long as he's healthy, I don't think he's a sub-.700 OPS player just yet.

bucksfan2
05-12-2010, 11:14 AM
I can't believe so many people are already writing off Big Papi. Last year on June 2nd, he had a line of .186/.282/.284. After that, he put up a line of .265/.357/.553 to finish up a solid year. I agree that he's on the downside of his career, but as long as he's healthy, I don't think he's a sub-.700 OPS player just yet.

He can't take the magic sauce anymore. He is another year older and another year removed from his prime. When you are paying a lot of money to a DH only player he needs to produce. I think his better days are long behind him.

Ghosts of 1990
05-12-2010, 11:30 AM
He can't take the magic sauce anymore. He is another year older and another year removed from his prime. When you are paying a lot of money to a DH only player he needs to produce. I think his better days are long behind him.

Oh his better days are definitely long gone. Now it's about survival.

If you watch Papi and not look at the #'s alone, you can see his bat speed has greatly deteriorated and when he does connect a lot of the leg drive power he used to drive the ball is no longer there. Those old home runs and doubles in the gap are now fly outs and flares.

RedsBaron
05-12-2010, 12:22 PM
I would not be surprised if Adam Dunn replaced David Ortiz as the Red Sox DH (I realize that Ortiz is now in a platoon situation there). The Nationals are not going to win anything in the foreseeable future, so a prospects for Dunn deal could make sense. DH is Dunn's natural position, and he could be quite productive at Fenway.

TeamBoone
05-14-2010, 12:19 AM
Dunn is going to finish with 550 to 600 home runs and they're going to be clean. He's going to the Hall of Fame. I miss this guy so much.

Me too. :(

HokieRed
05-14-2010, 12:22 AM
Dunn is going to finish with 550 to 600 home runs and they're going to be clean. He's going to the Hall of Fame. I miss this guy so much.


I also miss him and I agree with your projection about his HR total, but I don't think that total will necessarily get him in the Hall. 600 will, I think, 550 not so much.

OnBaseMachine
05-14-2010, 12:22 AM
Me too. :(

Me three. Check my sig.

The Reds would probably have another win or two if they had Dunner in left field.

Scrap Irony
05-14-2010, 12:30 AM
He'll need the 60+ HR to get in the Hall, as many sportswriters have a negative opinion of the guy based on his low BA, poor defense, K's, and perceived lack of drive. And it's these sportswriters who vote.

He'll need a ring, too, as he's been on really bad teams his entire career. That, too, will affect his HoF totals negatively. That means, in order to go to Cooperstown, he'll likely need a fairly significant late career rejuvenation in a media capital.

Boston, New York, and LA are really his only options if he's serious about the Hall. I'm guessing he becomes a Yankee at the tail end of this season.

Ghosts of 1990
05-14-2010, 01:34 AM
He'll need the 60+ HR to get in the Hall, as many sportswriters have a negative opinion of the guy based on his low BA, poor defense, K's, and perceived lack of drive. And it's these sportswriters who vote.

He'll need a ring, too, as he's been on really bad teams his entire career. That, too, will affect his HoF totals negatively. That means, in order to go to Cooperstown, he'll likely need a fairly significant late career rejuvenation in a media capital.

Boston, New York, and LA are really his only options if he's serious about the Hall. I'm guessing he becomes a Yankee at the tail end of this season.


I disagree. There are no 500 home run guys (clean) who are not in the Hall of Fame. Especially with the way home run totals are falling again, Dunn will be known as the most prolific of sluggers across two decades possibly.

The guy was an epic offensive player, not without his blemishes but a consistent monster all in the same.... he was misunderstood by so many people.

Again, not without his limitations but he shows up, plays hurt, is a good guy in the clubhouse and hits playstation style homers. I paid countless times to see him hit and when he was at the plate on television I was always holding my urge to use the restroom

Ron Madden
05-14-2010, 04:48 AM
I've always been and probably always will be a HUGE FAN of Adam Dunn.

There are far to many Beat Writers, Broadcasters and Fans who just go along with popular opinion rather than do any research.

I know it's a lot of work but I really wish AtomicDumpling could continue with this thread in the manner he originally intended. It's one of my alltime favorite threads from RedsZone.

Dan
05-14-2010, 09:53 AM
Dunn is going to finish with 550 to 600 home runs and they're going to be clean. He's going to the Hall of Fame. I miss this guy so much.

All these folks who miss him now, where were you 2 years ago when the consensus on the board was that he was a terrible player who should be moved as quickly as possible for 2 bags of balls and a used batting glove?

Mario-Rijo
05-14-2010, 10:22 AM
I'll chime in even though it's not gonna be well received. I actually liked Adam Dunn and don't dislike him now, though at times I questioned his game and sometimes his effort/desire to improve his game. That said I think it was absolutely neccessary for him to be sent packing. I think he is a guy who can contribute to a winning culture but after what he went thru with this organization and how he became accustom to a certain way of playing the game he had to be removed from the organization to move forward. This and the Jr deal were a must and the 2 things I give credit to Walt for. Not to mention if Dunn was still here the money issue would hinder us from trying to lock up a Votto, Bruce, Cueto etc. I prefer these players to him ultimately.

It would have been nice to have a true franchise 500 HR guy and again Dunn is a pretty cool guy but I want to win and the best way for us to do it in Cincy is without him, all things considered and IMO.

OnBaseMachine
05-14-2010, 12:01 PM
All these folks who miss him now, where were you 2 years ago when the consensus on the board was that he was a terrible player who should be moved as quickly as possible for 2 bags of balls and a used batting glove?

I was here defending him to the end, along with a few others.

WMR
05-14-2010, 12:08 PM
Dunn is a stud, was a stud, and will continue to be a stud for the foreseeable future.

550+ HRs and he's going to Cooperstown and no he doesn't need a ring to get there.

edabbs44
05-14-2010, 12:17 PM
Now that defensive metrics have become much more popular, does anyone think that Dunn may not get the call even if he gets to the 550 HR range? Dunn's WAR (if you are into that stuff) in recent years is less than HOF worthy, I would guess. Some of those UZR numbers are pretty scary.

Degenerate39
05-14-2010, 12:19 PM
All these folks who miss him now, where were you 2 years ago when the consensus on the board was that he was a terrible player who should be moved as quickly as possible for 2 bags of balls and a used batting glove?

I defended him till the bitter end.

TRF
05-14-2010, 12:19 PM
Now that defensive metrics have become much more popular, does anyone think that Dunn may not get the call even if he gets to the 550 HR range? Dunn's WAR (if you are into that stuff) in recent years is less than HOF worthy, I would guess. Some of those UZR numbers are pretty scary.

New position, new numbers. He's the full time 1B now. We need to see how that plays out.

buckeyenut
05-14-2010, 12:21 PM
I think it was the right move at the time. That said, I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him back and dropping him in LF and the cleanup spot in our lineup. I think the culture is completely different and I think he is the type of player we need to really make this lineup go. Just imagine... (my dream so I start Hanigan/Janish)

Dickerson/Stubbs (I know, bat needs to come around) CF
Phillips 2B
Votto 1B
Dunn LF
Rolen 3B
Bruce RF
Hanigan C
Janish SS

If stubbs could just OBP .350, I think that is a perfectly constructed lineup. If not, I'd even be game for Phillips leading off with Bruce or Hanigan second, although I like Brandon in the two hole for some reason.

bucksfan2
05-14-2010, 12:27 PM
Dunn is a stud, was a stud, and will continue to be a stud for the foreseeable future.

550+ HRs and he's going to Cooperstown and no he doesn't need a ring to get there.

I doubt that Dunn gets into the Hall even if he hits 550-600 HR's. Not only has he played on bad teams for his entire career up until now but he has exactly 1 all star appearance and his best finish in the MVP voting is 26th. Where does he rank amongst his LF peers? Where would he rank amongst his 1b peers? The HOF is reserved for the top tier of players across their playing career. Adam Dunn doesn't fit that list.

He is a nice offensive player but a horrible defensive player. He is a DH playing the field but DH's have a hurdle to clear getting into the hall. He never has had a wow season that has separated him from the rest of baseball. If Dunn played in yesteryear and hit 500+ HR's he would be a lock for the hall, in today's PED enhanced game I don't think he comes close.

bucksfan2
05-14-2010, 12:31 PM
New position, new numbers. He's the full time 1B now. We need to see how that plays out.

Lets take him as a 1b now and look where he ranks overall at 1b. Off the top of my head these are the players I would rank higher than Dunner, in no particular order

Pujols
Howard
Berkman
Pena
Votto
Texieria
Youkilis
Gonzalez
Lee
Fielder

So the question to ask is the 11th best 1b in his time HOF worthy?

nate
05-14-2010, 12:33 PM
Maybe it's a better idea to shunt these tangential conversations about Dunn to another thread, PM or to one's pets so as to keep the thread on rails.

kbrake
05-14-2010, 12:33 PM
I'm still not as active on this board as I was the day before Dunn got traded. I absolutely hated the way he was treated by the fans and media. Completely misunderstood guy imo with some incredible offensive talent that just wasn't appreciated enough.

TRF
05-14-2010, 12:41 PM
I doubt that Dunn gets into the Hall even if he hits 550-600 HR's. Not only has he played on bad teams for his entire career up until now but he has exactly 1 all star appearance and his best finish in the MVP voting is 26th. Where does he rank amongst his LF peers? Where would he rank amongst his 1b peers? The HOF is reserved for the top tier of players across their playing career. Adam Dunn doesn't fit that list.

He is a nice offensive player but a horrible defensive player. He is a DH playing the field but DH's have a hurdle to clear getting into the hall. He never has had a wow season that has separated him from the rest of baseball. If Dunn played in yesteryear and hit 500+ HR's he would be a lock for the hall, in today's PED enhanced game I don't think he comes close.

Except he well outhit his PED enhanced peers during that timeframe. At least most of them.

And he's not a LF anymore. He's a 1B. And his numbers there should be better next year after he's had a complete continuous season there. I think he'll age better than Ryan Howard. I won't be surprised to see him with a 3 year deal, maybe right there in Washington, a team that looks poised to make a run in that division. (They could get Strasburg, Wang and Zimmermann this year, but Zimmermann might not be ready to start again until 2011, like Volquez)

So, lets say Dunn signs a 3 year deal, hits 40 a year as the Nats move into respectability. It's not crazy to say they could win the division in the next 4 seasons counting this one. And Dunn puts up his Dunn season: .900+ OPS 40 HR's. for the next 4 years. that would give him about 470 HR's at age 33. I somehow don't think he'd retire at age 33.

He won't be a 1st ballot guy, but he's certainly got a shot.

TRF
05-14-2010, 12:46 PM
Lets take him as a 1b now and look where he ranks overall at 1b. Off the top of my head these are the players I would rank higher than Dunner, in no particular order

Pujols
Howard
Berkman
Pena
Votto
Texieria
Youkilis
Gonzalez
Lee
Fielder

So the question to ask is the 11th best 1b in his time HOF worthy?

Dunn is outhitting every one of those guys except Pujols and Votto, and from that list only Youklis in the AL is outhitting him. Defensively, I'm willing to cut him some slack this year as it is his 1st fulltime for the position. But if you are saying right now, you'd take Lee, Howard or Fielder over Dunn at 1B, well, ok. defensively? sure. offensively? no.

Dan
05-14-2010, 01:00 PM
I was also surprised to see Chili Davis on that list. Surprised me quite a lot.

There's something to be said for being good, but not great, over a long period of years.

bucksfan2
05-14-2010, 01:22 PM
Dunn is outhitting every one of those guys except Pujols and Votto, and from that list only Youklis in the AL is outhitting him. Defensively, I'm willing to cut him some slack this year as it is his 1st fulltime for the position. But if you are saying right now, you'd take Lee, Howard or Fielder over Dunn at 1B, well, ok. defensively? sure. offensively? no.

I would absolutely take Howard and Fielder over Dunn. Lee is a different case because he is in the twilight of his career but he is one of the best defensive 1b in the game. Dunn is a very nice offensive player but his defense is just that bad.

The Howard and Dunn comparison has always interested me. They look like very similar player in the offensive game. Power hitters who will have low BA's, do a good job of finding their way to 1b, but very prone to the K. But Howard just gets it done. He hits a few more HR's than Dunn but his RBI totals (yea I know its a team dependent stat) are 40-50 higher than Dunn year in year out.

As for the PED comment I am not saying that Dunn ever took PED's. If you asked me I would bet that he has been clean for his entire career. I was just nothing that those big HR numbers will be knocked down because of the era he played in.

Nasty_Boy
05-14-2010, 01:23 PM
I liked the breakdown I read after Howard signed his new contract... Dunn has had a better OPS+ the Howard over the last few seasons and the jury is still out on their defense at 1B. Basically for half the cost you could get better production from Dunn... Well except the all mighty RBI total, lol.

Degenerate39
05-14-2010, 01:26 PM
I liked the breakdown I read after Howard signed his new contract... Dunn has had a better OPS+ the Howard over the last few seasons and the jury is still out on their defense at 1B. Basically for half the cost you could get better production from Dunn... Well except the all mighty RBI total, lol.

Who knows how many RBI Dunn could have if he had Utley, Rollins, Victorino batting in front of him though

bucksfan2
05-14-2010, 01:32 PM
Who knows how many RBI Dunn could have if he had Utley, Rollins, Victorino batting in front of him though

Jimmy Rollins is a career .330 OBP guy, hardly anything to write home about. Victorino is a career .343 and Utley a .382 (he's kinda good.)

On the other hand Dunn has Zimmerman (.348) and Morgan (.349). Dunn should get his fair share of RBI opportunities this season.

TRF
05-14-2010, 01:47 PM
As for the PED comment I am not saying that Dunn ever took PED's. If you asked me I would bet that he has been clean for his entire career. I was just nothing that those big HR numbers will be knocked down because of the era he played in.

And I disagree. He's never had a sniff of ped controversy about him, and because of that he'll stand out more.

jojo
05-14-2010, 01:58 PM
And I disagree. He's never had a sniff of ped controversy about him, and because of that he'll stand out more.

Adam probably doesn't have enough juice with the sports writers given the general perception of his skill set for the sportswriters to trump him as a juiceless knight of the era IMHO.

It's a fickle, arbitrary group.

HokieRed
05-14-2010, 02:04 PM
Adam probably doesn't have enough juice with the sports writers given the general perception of his skill set for the sportswriters to trump him as a juiceless knight of the era IMHO.

It's a fickle, arbitrary group.

This is why I think 600, not 550, is the magic number for him.

Slyder
05-14-2010, 02:18 PM
All these folks who miss him now, where were you 2 years ago when the consensus on the board was that he was a terrible player who should be moved as quickly as possible for 2 bags of balls and a used batting glove?

Still here. Been here just tried to avoid the Dunn circus since he's gone now. And never wanted him gone for 2 bags of balls and a used batting glove.

Cedric
05-14-2010, 02:22 PM
Still here. Been here just tried to avoid the Dunn circus since he's gone now. And never wanted him gone for 2 bags of balls and a used batting glove.

Somebody is doing some serious baiting here. If anyone thinks that consensus on ORG was that Dunn stunk that is beyond absurd.

TRF
05-14-2010, 03:49 PM
Adam probably doesn't have enough juice with the sports writers given the general perception of his skill set for the sportswriters to trump him as a juiceless knight of the era IMHO.

It's a fickle, arbitrary group.

Maybe, but we are talking about a scenario that is likely 15 years away at the earliest, barring injury. that's a long time.

WMR
05-14-2010, 03:54 PM
Maybe, but we are talking about a scenario that is likely 15 years away at the earliest, barring injury. that's a long time.

Exactly. The good thing for AD's HOF chances are that a lot of the 'OLD GUARD' baseball types who don't embrace/understand sabermetrics will be dead and/or retired.

AD's HOF prospects in 2030 are much better than in 2010.

bucksfan2
05-14-2010, 04:11 PM
Exactly. The good thing for AD's HOF chances are that a lot of the 'OLD GUARD' baseball types who don't embrace/understand sabermetrics will be dead and/or retired.

AD's HOF prospects in 2030 are much better than in 2010.

Let me ask you guys a question. Has Dunn ever been a top 5 overall player at his position?

I don't mean to knock Dunn just that attaining a statistical number doesn't mean greatness. The HOF is for great player, players who were the best of the best at their position over the course of their respective career. To me Dunn may end up like Palmero (sans the PED allegations), nice numbers, nice player, but not great.

westofyou
05-14-2010, 04:21 PM
Dunn won't make the HOF, he's in Bob Johnson country, Hal Trosky, Joe Adcock, Gavy Cravath, Bob Allison as well.

Scrap Irony
05-14-2010, 04:28 PM
I think, offensively, he was definitely Top Five at LF for five or six years of his decade-long year career (2002, 2004-2005, 2007-2009). I think his really poor defense dings that a bit.

He may deserve a shot at the HoF; however not only does he have to continue putting up numbers like he has, he has to better his numbers (as he's playing another position and that position requires more offense).

I don't think, however, sportswriters are likely to put him in the HoF. He's got a reputation of being lacksadasical, of K'ing too much, and of having an iron glove. He's never played on a successful team. (And, despite it all, sportswriters gravitate to "winners"-- always have, always will.)

Perhaps WMR is right, in that the cattle call of sportswriters will all die and a new, glorious era of enlightened writers will be able to measure true HoF production. But I've met most of these guys, and, one) they're not that smart, and, two) they live unusually long lives. (One football coach called sportswriters cockroaches "because they're useless, irritating, and they're impossible to kill". And I agree with two of those statements.)

mdccclxix
05-14-2010, 05:28 PM
Dunn needs to go to Boston, LA or NY and win 2 rings minimum while still crushing the ball until he's 37 to make the HOF.

RichRed
05-14-2010, 05:47 PM
Dunn won't make the HOF, he's in Bob Johnson country, Hal Trosky, Joe Adcock, Gavy Cravath, Bob Allison as well.

Respectfully, Dunn's in that same category if his career ended today. No one in that group has over 336 career HRs. From a pure counting stat perspective, I'd have to think that IF he gets to 600 homers, that's going to be tough for voters to ignore.

bucksfan2
05-14-2010, 05:50 PM
Respectfully, Dunn's in that same category if his career ended today. No one in that group has over 336 career HRs. From a pure counting stat perspective, I'd have to think that IF he gets to 600 homers, that's going to be tough for voters to ignore.

Palmero says hi. Even before the PED incident he wasn't considered a HOF. I think Dunn will fit into that mold.

westofyou
05-14-2010, 05:55 PM
Respectfully, Dunn's in that same category if his career ended today. No one in that group has over 336 career HRs. From a pure counting stat perspective, I'd have to think that IF he gets to 600 homers, that's going to be tough for voters to ignore.

They also played in a different era, his HR numbers are clouded by smaller parks, and PEDS that have devalued the main item that he brought to the table.

Then there's the other side of the ball aspect and he's not HOF there by any measurement.

HokieRed
05-14-2010, 06:18 PM
I think he's going to have to do something that cannot be ignored or explained away. The most likely thing for him to do that fits that description is to hit 600.

Razor Shines
05-14-2010, 06:23 PM
Palmero says hi. Even before the PED incident he wasn't considered a HOF. I think Dunn will fit into that mold.

Huh? 3000 hits and 550+ HRs isn't a lock for the HOF any more? I'm pretty Raffy was going to be in the Hall without the PED incident, 1st ballot most likely.

RichRed
05-14-2010, 06:54 PM
I think he's going to have to do something that cannot be ignored or explained away. The most likely thing for him to do that fits that description is to hit 600.

This is what I'm thinking too. I understand different eras, smaller parks, etc., but I don't think the writers are necessarily that nuanced in their thinking. That #600 is a big ol' matsoh ball hanging out there. Much easier to ignore Joe Adcock's 336 homers, for example, because it just doesn't have that wow factor.

And as has been pointed out, the perspective looking back 20 years or so from now may be completely different.

westofyou
05-14-2010, 11:54 PM
This is what I'm thinking too. I understand different eras, smaller parks, etc., but I don't think the writers are necessarily that nuanced in their thinking. That #600 is a big ol' matsoh ball hanging out there. Much easier to ignore Joe Adcock's 336 homers, for example, because it just doesn't have that wow factor.

And as has been pointed out, the perspective looking back 20 years or so from now may be completely different.

When Joe retired he was 20th on the all time list, 5 years later he was 25th.

Today he's 87th.

jojo
05-15-2010, 08:29 AM
This is what I'm thinking too. I understand different eras, smaller parks, etc., but I don't think the writers are necessarily that nuanced in their thinking. That #600 is a big ol' matsoh ball hanging out there. Much easier to ignore Joe Adcock's 336 homers, for example, because it just doesn't have that wow factor.

And as has been pointed out, the perspective looking back 20 years or so from now may be completely different.

It's possible that Dunn could end his career with 600 hrs and less than 2000 hits.

He's in his age thirty season as well. Assuming he'll significantly dent the 500's is kind of begging the question IMHO.

He's a pretty poor investment as a HOF stock IMHO.

RedsBaron
05-15-2010, 11:09 AM
As I have posted before, since Bid McPhee made the Hall of Fame a mere century after he retired it is hard to say virtually anyone other than perhaps Juan Castro has no chance at eventually being inducted, but the odds at this point are against Adam Dunn being enshrined. He is now 30 years old and has a body type that probably will not age well. While Dunn has been remarkably durable in his major league career, it remains to be seen how well he will age.
Dunn's Hall of Fame Monitor score is 53, about half way to the 100 score of the average member of the HOF. Of his ten most similar hitters, none are in the HOF. Of the ten most similar hitters through age 29 only three (Reggie Jackson, Harmon Killebrew and Ralph Kiner) are in the Hall, and, unlike Reggie!, the Killer and Kiner, Dunn has no HR crowns to his credit, and has only made one all star team (2002).
If Dunn fails to reach 500 career HRs I would guess he has no chance of being inducted. Absent scandal, if Dunn reaches 600 career HRs he is certain to be inducted, and my guess is that 500 career HRs would eventually cause Cooperstown to open its doors to him.

Big Klu
05-15-2010, 11:46 AM
In the 80's, the magic number for career home runs was 400. I remember a broadcaster (I think it was Joe Garagiola) say that no player who had hit 400 homers had ever failed to be inducted into the Hall Of Fame. That is, until Dave Kingman came along. Then the magic number increased to 500. Then along came Rafael Palmeiro (whose chances were very questionable even before the steroid scandal). So the magic number is likely higher now--until the next guy who reaches that milestone is deemed unworthy. Is that guy Adam Dunn? Who knows. I guess I'm saying that I don't really believe in a magic number for home runs as a ticket to the HOF anymore. (3000 hits still seems pretty solid, though.)

redsfandan
05-15-2010, 12:07 PM
Is Jim Thome a HOFer? He's got the counting stats (569 homers, 1580 rbi) so he's got a shot but I don't know that I'd consider him a lock since the HOF tends to frown on players that play a significant part of their career at dh. And I think Dunn could be thought of the same way in 10 years.

Even IF Dunn keeps up his current pace I think he'll have to show that he can be at least a neutral defender (and for more than 30+ games) and have some really BIG offensive seasons on playoff teams. If he doesn't do that then I think he could very well end up as one of those players that just miss being elected.

RedsBaron
05-15-2010, 01:26 PM
Is Jim Thome a HOFer?
IMO, absent scandal, yes. Thome has a HOF Monitor score of 146, well above the 100 score of the average member of the Hall of Fame. The only players* eligible for the HOF with a higher score who have not yet been inducted are Roberto Alomar, Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro and Jeff Bagwell. Alomar will probably make it next year and I expect Bagwell to be inducted. McGwire and Palmiero likely would go in but for steroid allegations.
* Pete Rose and Joe Jackson also have higher scores but are ineligible.
Thome is a five time all star with a 52 HR season, another year in which he lead his league in HRs (47) and I think holds the record for post season HRs with 37. I don't expect him to be inducted in his first year on the ballot, it may take him 10 years or more, but yeah I expect he will get in.

Raisor
05-15-2010, 03:52 PM
Then along came Rafael Palmeiro (whose chances were very questionable even before the steroid scandal).


(3000 hits still seems pretty solid, though.)

so which one was it?

Palmeiro was a sure in before the PEDs/

Big Klu
05-15-2010, 04:18 PM
so which one was it?

Palmeiro was a sure in before the PEDs/

To be honest, I had forgotten that Palmeiro had 3000 hits. I was only thinking of him as a power hitter.

camisadelgolf
05-19-2010, 03:16 AM
I can't believe so many people are already writing off Big Papi. Last year on June 2nd, he had a line of .186/.282/.284. After that, he put up a line of .265/.357/.553 to finish up a solid year. I agree that he's on the downside of his career, but as long as he's healthy, I don't think he's a sub-.700 OPS player just yet.
I hate to get off topic, but Big Papi's OPS jumped to over .800 after yesterday. :cool:

camisadelgolf
06-04-2010, 12:32 AM
I hate to get off topic, but Big Papi's OPS jumped to over .800 after yesterday. :cool:
Another update on Big Papi, not that anyone else cares: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?n1=ortizda01&t=b&year=2010&share=3.41#1468-1492-sum:batting_gamelogs

I believe he has a 1.268 OPS since May 1st.

Degenerate39
06-04-2010, 12:42 AM
In other news Dunn has 10 homers so far this year and 326 life time

Razor Shines
06-04-2010, 01:31 AM
Another update on Big Papi, not that anyone else cares: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?n1=ortizda01&t=b&year=2010&share=3.41#1468-1492-sum:batting_gamelogs

I believe he has a 1.268 OPS since May 1st.

He must be back on his steroid cycle.

Ron Madden
06-04-2010, 03:37 AM
In other news Dunn has 10 homers so far this year and 326 life time

Thanks for turning this thread back to the original topic. :beerme:

mth123
06-04-2010, 04:21 AM
Not able to do the great work that Atomic Dumpling did on this thread, but with 10 HR this year Dunn has passed HOFs George Brett and Gary Carter as well as noted sluggers Ron Gant, Lance Parrish, Roy Sievers, Vinny Castilla, Willie Horton, Jermaine Dye and Cecil Fielder. He is currently tied for 96th on the all time list.

By the All Star break Dunn should pass Todd Helton, Mo Vaughn, Shawn Green, Moises Alou, Bobby Bonds, HOF Hank Greenberg and possibly Daryl Strawberry and Joe Adcock.

By seasons end he should also pass Don Baylor, Dave Parker, Tino Martinez, Boog Powell, Jack Clark and Ron Santo.

If he reaches his 40 HR milestone again he'll move into the top 75 and he would also get Chili Davis, Dick Allen, Ellis Burks and former Reds Greg Vaughn, George Foster and Lee May. It would leave him just behind a group that includes HOFs Yogi Berra, Johnny Mize, Joe Dimaggio and Ralph Kiner.

macro
06-04-2010, 09:52 AM
In other news Dunn has 10 homers so far this year and 326 life time

Do we have to drag Adam Dunn into every thread around here?

[joke] :D

Ghosts of 1990
06-04-2010, 01:14 PM
What happened to Atomic Dumpling?

His work on this thread was so great, and I was looking forward to the same in the Jay Bruce thread. Hope he is okay.

redsmetz
07-08-2010, 09:35 AM
Someone was looking for this thread and I finally tracked it down. With the 3 HR's last night, Dunn now stands at 336, tied for 88th all-time with Joe Adcock. Next up Don Baylor (338) and the 3-way tie of Boog Powell, Dave Parker and Tino Martinez (339). It's conceivable that he can jump 18 spots by season's end and tie Joe DiMaggio (361) at #70.

redsmetz
07-08-2010, 09:42 AM
BTW, mth123 pretty much named where Dunn will be by the All Star break (http://www.redszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2107479&postcount=226). With one more homer by the break, he will pass Adcock. I think he's got a chance, as I said, to be fairly close to DiMaggio, but he'd have to pick it up since we're technically about a week past the actual halfway point.

TeamBoone
07-08-2010, 08:42 PM
Thank you soooo much for finding this awesome thread. Now, if we could only find Atomic Dumpling...

redsmetz
07-08-2010, 10:57 PM
Thank you soooo much for finding this awesome thread. Now, if we could only find Atomic Dumpling...

Not to cyberstalk him, but he last posted in March, but was online about three this morning...

AtomicDumpling
07-09-2010, 04:05 AM
Thank you soooo much for finding this awesome thread. Now, if we could only find Atomic Dumpling...

Hi guys,

I am here occasionally to read up on the news, but I have not had time to post recently. Hopefully I will find some time to do some research and update this thread sometime soon. I have also started a similar thread for Jay Bruce but have not had time to update that one recently either. I am glad you guys have enjoyed the thread as much as I have enjoyed creating it!

I was thrilled to see the highlights from Adam Dunn's three homer game yesterday and am happy he is having another fantastic season.

Ron Madden
07-09-2010, 04:28 AM
Hi guys,

I am here occasionally to read up on the news, but I have not had time to post recently. Hopefully I will find some time to do some research and update this thread sometime soon. I have also started a similar thread for Jay Bruce but have not had time to update that one recently either. I am glad you guys have enjoyed the thread as much as I have enjoyed creating it!

I was thrilled to see the highlights from Adam Dunn's three homer game yesterday and am happy he is having another fantastic season.

Thank's AD, I'll be looking forward to reading anything you have a chance to post. :thumbup:

GAC
07-09-2010, 08:56 AM
It will be interesting to see if Dunn stays in Washington since he is a FA at season's end. The Nats may be in the same situation the Reds were in with Dunn a few years back. Do they trade him before the deadline if they intend not to sign him, or possibly can't afford to? Adam is headed toward another season of 40 homers, 100 RBIs and a .400 on-base percentage, so he'll get significant offers if he hits the market. But it may from the AL as a DH too.

redsmetz
07-09-2010, 09:33 AM
It will be interesting to see if Dunn stays in Washington since he is a FA at season's end. The Nats may be in the same situation the Reds were in with Dunn a few years back. Do they trade him before the deadline if they intend not to sign him, or possibly can't afford to? Adam is headed toward another season of 40 homers, 100 RBIs and a .400 on-base percentage, so he'll get significant offers if he hits the market. But it may from the AL as a DH too.

I don't think its an issue affording him. From what I've read of Tom Boswell's columns, they've got the money. Now that they've got him on 1st base, he's where he is best suited for a NL team. I'm guessing they'll be looking to give him a deal, probably no more than 4 or 5 years, now that he's 30.

TeamBoone
07-09-2010, 12:05 PM
I'm so glad to see you, AD. I love Adam, and am looking forward to your updates.

*BaseClogger*
07-09-2010, 05:03 PM
It will be interesting to see if Dunn stays in Washington since he is a FA at season's end. The Nats may be in the same situation the Reds were in with Dunn a few years back. Do they trade him before the deadline if they intend not to sign him, or possibly can't afford to? Adam is headed toward another season of 40 homers, 100 RBIs and a .400 on-base percentage, so he'll get significant offers if he hits the market. But it may from the AL as a DH too.

If the White Sox have any sense and intend on competing this season, they should be clamoring Washington for Dunn...

TeamBoone
07-10-2010, 12:23 AM
Two more for Adam tonight!

flyer85
07-10-2010, 12:28 AM
Dunn has 50 XBH after tonight, that is 9 more than Pujols who is in 2nd. Rather amazing.

redsfandan
07-10-2010, 12:32 AM
I like the .285 batting average. That's a change for the better.

TeamBoone
08-07-2010, 03:14 PM
Two homers last night (8i/6) against the Dodgers. Thirty on the season, so far.

mth123
08-07-2010, 03:17 PM
Two homers last night (8i/6) against the Dodgers. Thirty on the season, so far.

That puts Dunn at 82nd on the All Time list with 346 career homers. Next up, Reds Hall of Famer George Foster at 348.

mth123
08-29-2010, 12:59 PM
Been a while, but Dunn's Red aiding Homer last night was the 348th of his career and moves him into a tie with Red's great George Foster for 81st on the all-time list.

fearofpopvol1
08-29-2010, 05:53 PM
I wonder if Dunn can get to 400 by the end of next season. He would need to finish this season pretty strongly and have a monster year next year as well...but it's possible.

Ron Madden
09-06-2010, 02:58 AM
Sunday 9-5-10 Adam Dunn became just the fifth player in history to hit 350 Home Runs in his first 10 seasons. :thumbup:

fearofpopvol1
09-06-2010, 03:43 AM
Will Dunn be able to get to 500 home runs? Will his body slow down over the next couple seasons or can he do it?

And if he can get to 500 home runs, should he be a hall of famer?

Ghosts of 1990
09-06-2010, 07:47 AM
He will hit 500. And he will be a Hall of Famer. What clean 500 home run guy these days wouldn't be in?

Joseph
09-06-2010, 11:34 AM
He will hit 500. And he will be a Hall of Famer. What clean 500 home run guy these days wouldn't be in?

Would love to see it, but I wonder if he doesn't get the Bert Blyleven treatment. Sure he's got the numbers, but he doesn't 'feel' like a HoFer to some voters.

Dunn's going to have to join some winning teams to get there. That means going to be a DH somewhere most likely which he's been reticent to do thus far.

Scrap Irony
09-06-2010, 11:55 AM
If he gets to 600, he'll get in. But 500 won't do it for a guy many perceive as lazy, undedicated, and a loser.

(Not that I agree with those assessments. But, then again, I don't have the vote.)