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elfmanvt07
05-19-2008, 09:14 AM
I'm interested to see what lineups everyone here would field. Here's what I got. I'm asking for a debate, here.


Freel
Hairston, Jr.
Phillips
Votto
Encarnacion
Dunn
Bako
Griffey, Jr.
P

I feel really really bad batting Griffey 8.

elfmanvt07
05-19-2008, 09:17 AM
Come on guys, I'm bored at work, help me out!

Nasty_Boy
05-19-2008, 09:30 AM
Against RH
Hairston SS
Votto 1b
Dunn LF
JR RF
Edwin 3B
Phillips 2B
Bako C
Patterson CF

Against LH
Freel CF
Edwin 3B
Phillips 2B
Dunn LF
Votto 1B
Jr RF
Janish SS
Ross C

I would honestly play the numbers instead of having a set lineup. Normally I would want Dunn hitting 5-6 against a LHP, but he's rolling right now. The same thing with Phillips against RHP, he doesn't hit them well but he is right now. I wish Freel could bat and Patterson play the field because Freel drives me crazy out there, but he is raking right now. Edwin is slumping and Votto has been but he's had some big hits lately. I like Janish's defense but I don't think he'll continue to look this comfortable at the plate. Basically, I think Dusty should move Dunn up and Jr down in the lineup. The rest of the guys I move around according to who's playing well.

RED59
05-19-2008, 11:09 AM
I'm for any lineup which bats Dunn no lower than third (preferrably second) and does not include Patterson. Also, why does current philosophy want to break up left handers in lineups? Current managers would not have gone with Ruth followed by Gehrig. It would seem that you would be better off getting the lead rather than worrying about teams bringing in left handed relievers.

bigred97
05-19-2008, 01:12 PM
heres mine

Freel CF
Hairston SS
Phillips 2B
Dunn LF
Votto !B
Edwin 3b
Griffey RF
Bako C

I would move Dunn up to the 2nd spot when he cools off.

Homer Bailey
05-19-2008, 02:23 PM
Freel
Dunn
Edwin
Votto
Phillips
Junior
Janish
Bako

smoke6
05-19-2008, 02:25 PM
Freel
Hairston
Phillips
Votto
Dunn
EE
Bako
Janish
P

James B.
05-19-2008, 04:21 PM
1. Hairston
2. Dunn
3. Votto
4. Phillips
5. Griffey
6. E.E.
7. Catcher
8. Freel

I like Freel batting in the 8 spot. When he is batting 1st I hate it when he takes chances with the big hitters coming up. If he bats 8th, he can take more chances without it hurting the team as much. This logic might not make any sense but its what I am thinking today. I may change my mind in a few days.

muethibp
05-19-2008, 04:27 PM
Freel
Dunn
Edwin
Votto
Phillips
Junior
Janish
Bako

Winner.

DannyB
05-19-2008, 05:02 PM
Why not?
1. Votto
2. Dunn
3. Griffey
4. Encarnacion
5. Bruce
6. Phillips
7. Bako
8. Hairston
:thumbup:

Trace's Daddy
05-19-2008, 05:20 PM
1. Hairston - CF
2. Dunn - LF
3. Phillips - 2B
4. Votto - 1B
5. Encarnacion - 3B
6. Griffey - RF
7. Bako - C
8. Janish - SS

Chris Sabowned
05-19-2008, 05:50 PM
1. Freel
2. Dunn
3. Phillips
4. Votto
5. Edwin
6. Griffey
7. Hairston
8. Bako

SultanOfSwing
05-19-2008, 06:48 PM
1. Phillips - 2B
2. Votto - 1B
3. Dunn - LF
4. Encarnacion - 3B
5. Griffey - RF
6. Patterson - CF
7. Janish - SS
8. Pitcher
9. Bako - C

Slyder
05-19-2008, 09:49 PM
Of the current options:
1 Ryan Freel CF (He can be a bit daredevil but he's one of our better options at this point)
2 Adam Dunn LF (Been wanting to see the Reds try this for 2 years on a consistant basis just because of all the walks)
3 Edwin Encarncion 3b (Can work counts)
4 Joey Votto 1b (not a true #4 but at this time I don't think we have one)
5 Brandon Phillips 2b (clean up any unfinished messes)
6 Ken Griffey RF (If he shows he can pick it up you move him back up to 3 or 4)
7 Paul Janish SS (He had a nice 1st game, see if he's Kepp or Deion)
8 Catcher du jour (whoevers hot)
9 Pitcher (I just don't believe in batting the pitcher usually your worst hitter higher than last making you pull things possibly earlier).

Including guys in the minors:
1 Ryan Freel CF (He can be a bit daredevil but he's one of our better options at this point)
2 Adam Dunn LF (Been wanting to see the Reds try this for 2 years on a consistant basis just because of all the walks)
3 Edwin Encarncion 3b (Can work counts)
4 Joey Votto 1b (not a true #4 but at this time I don't think we have one)
5 Brandon Phillips 2b (clean up any unfinished messes)
6 Jay Bruce RF (We need to see if he has "it")
7 Paul Janish SS (He had a nice 1st game, see if he's Kepp or Deion)
8 Catcher du jour (whoevers hot Bako/Ross)
9 Pitcher (I just don't believe in batting the pitcher usually your worst hitter higher than last making you pull things possibly earlier).

I dont want this to sound like a slap to Griffey, he just is not part of the future at this point. He was a great player but Father Time looks like he's taken Griff's bat and without that he doesnt have the range to really make up for it.

bucknutdet
05-20-2008, 12:54 PM
I like these last 2 lineups also, but I'd switch Phillips to 4th and Votto to 5th. Griffey will never see a pitch at 4th, but it probably wouldn't matter anyway. Bruce over Griffey would also be my choice right now.

BLEEDS
05-20-2008, 02:41 PM
1 - Freel/Patterson/Hopper/anyone/Bueller/who cares/we don't really have a true leadoff hitter/please Santa get me one for Christmas this year
2 - Keppinger.
Yeah, I know he's hurt, but he's the only guy who really fits in here, and he's the ideal #2 hitter for the Reds long-term
3 - Adam Dunn.
I don't care what anyone says about his career numbers in this slot. With that OPS, you bat him here 158 games a year. They can't afford to walk him with the guys behind him, and he'll have guys in front of him to work with.
4 - EE.
Yeah, he's slumping, but he's a better #4 than BP. He works a count and won't bounce into 40 double plays a year.
5 - Joey Votto.
He's your new Adam Dunn in the #5. His OBP will be more base-hit driven. Batting him any lower is criminal
6 - BP
Would flourish here with Dunn/EE/Votto in front of him - if he wouldn't hit into so many DP's. Yeah he's currently decent in the #4, but it's only by default/by stupidity that he is handed that job with his skillset
7 - Junior
If anyone "deserves" to hit in this spot right now, it's Junior. Tied for first in "the most likely to never happen in 1,000,000,000 years (aka as long as he's on the team and Dusty is the manager) with BP in the 6 and EE in the 4, but it's MY ideal line-up darnit!!
8 - RH catcher

Now, don't ask me how this changes with Bruce - all I know is that it would be WAY different, but you'd have to see who else is still on the roster then.

PEACE

-BLEEDS

PTI (pti)
05-22-2008, 09:12 PM
So, does Dusty not post on this board at all???? Haven't seen Patterson mentioned as the leadoff man even ONCE.