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tommycash
05-21-2008, 11:23 AM
Is Volquez great or what. I mean we have all of these Hamilton threads, but lets celebrate Volquez too.

Lets rejoice for having a guy with these numbers:

7 Wins 1 Loss 8 ER Only 2 HR allowed 30 BB to 62 SO

1.33 ERA 1.27 WHIP

smoke6
05-21-2008, 11:31 AM
Volquez isn't a rookie.

bubbachunk
05-21-2008, 11:49 AM
He is but I worry can he keep it going at this rate with all the walks he seems to throw. His whip should be below 1 with the era where it is at.

NorrisHopper30
05-21-2008, 12:03 PM
He's not a rookie..

tommycash
05-21-2008, 12:26 PM
Alright then, how about Edinson for Cy Young.

Hondo
05-21-2008, 12:31 PM
Alright then, how about Edinson for Cy Young.

I was looking at ESPN.com player page for Volquez...

He is on pace for 30 Starts, 209 K, and a 24-3 record...

IF that happens... And I say IF... This team will make the Playoffs...

I am not unrealistic where I 100% think this is going to sustain, but gosh, when you see him pitch... He is LIGHTS OUT! Like Pedro!

If he can some how pull off a dominant Pedro - Doc Gooden year...

The future looks bright for Baseball in Cincinnati for 2009

Orenda
05-21-2008, 12:31 PM
He's got a long way to go. Brandon Webb will be tough to beat.

tommycash
05-21-2008, 01:01 PM
My thread is not really an argument. It was meant to spread some positive feelings toward Volquez (a Red) instead of Hamilton (now a Ranger). It just seems to me that people want to praise Hamilton and not say much about Volquez. Right now some on here are saying that Hamilton is one of the best OF in baseball. I think he is great. But when I mention the name Volquez and Cy Young, it is met with some skepticism. Come on, he might not get it, but lets give him his due while he is in the running at least.

smoke6
05-21-2008, 01:28 PM
My thread is not really an argument. It was meant to spread some positive feelings toward Volquez (a Red) instead of Hamilton (now a Ranger). It just seems to me that people want to praise Hamilton and not say much about Volquez. Right now some on here are saying that Hamilton is one of the best OF in baseball. I think he is great. But when I mention the name Volquez and Cy Young, it is met with some skepticism. Come on, he might not get it, but lets give him his due while he is in the running at least.

I don't think people praise Hamilton and not Volquez. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Volquez is our best pitcher. I just wish we would have given up Dunn for him instead. :thumbup:

tommycash
05-21-2008, 01:56 PM
I don't think people praise Hamilton and not Volquez. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Volquez is our best pitcher. I just wish we would have given up Dunn for him instead. :thumbup:

GO back and count Josh Hamilton threads, and then count Volquez threads that have been started in the Sun Deck.

tommycash
05-21-2008, 02:03 PM
I looked, and there are at least 5 threads started to praise Hamilton (not to mention the 2 or 3 that were grouped together to make the last Hamilton love thread. On the ones started about Volquez, (the 2 that I saw) are whether or not you would have made the trade to bring him here, or what would we get if we traded Volquez and Cueto.

ChatterRed
05-21-2008, 02:54 PM
My thread is not really an argument. It was meant to spread some positive feelings toward Volquez (a Red) instead of Hamilton (now a Ranger). It just seems to me that people want to praise Hamilton and not say much about Volquez. Right now some on here are saying that Hamilton is one of the best OF in baseball. I think he is great. But when I mention the name Volquez and Cy Young, it is met with some skepticism. Come on, he might not get it, but lets give him his due while he is in the running at least.

I feel the love!!!! :D

tigh24
05-21-2008, 04:01 PM
I think that Volquez will be a great pitcher for some time...Harang will still be his strong and steady self and if the Reds can get strong outings from him and strong outings mixed in from Cueto and Volquez, I think they will hae a good chance when the end of the year comes...

It is all irrelavant if the Reds dont start swinging the bat though!

maniem
05-21-2008, 08:58 PM
He has been great this year. I hope he keeps it up. Let's just hope he doesn't pull a 1990 Jack Armstrong on us and collapse in the second half. Even if Volquez pitches as a league average pitcher the rest of the year (which I think he'll continue to be above average), he still will have had a very successful year.

BuckeyeRed27
05-21-2008, 09:55 PM
You can't have your cake and eat it too.


Yes you can. You can't eat your cake and have it to. :)

Volquez is amazing though. Living in LA I've only seen him pitch twice now, but he has been very very impressive. Glad he plays for the good guys.

NarrowStairs
05-22-2008, 12:31 AM
I don't think an inefficient pitcher with such erratic command would win the CY. Am I wrong here?

smoke6
05-22-2008, 07:55 AM
I don't think an inefficient pitcher with such erratic command would win the CY. Am I wrong here?

I think you're a troll. You think Volquez is inefficient?

tommycash
05-22-2008, 08:20 AM
I don't think an inefficient pitcher with such erratic command would win the CY. Am I wrong here?

How is 7-1 with a 1.33 ERA inefficient? See this is the kind of stuff that kills me on here. We a few good to great players but no matter what someone always puts them down. I don't get it. But what do I expect coming from someone who said Josh Hamilton is one of the top 5 OF of all time (only after a not so full year with the Reds and 2 months with the Rangers).