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OnBaseMachine
05-24-2008, 02:13 AM
Bailey scuffling at Triple-A Louisville
Right-hander having tough time over last three starts in Minors
By Mark Sheldon / MLB.com

SAN DIEGO -- If the Reds ever need rotation help, prospect Homer Bailey's name would likely be part of the conversation. But at the moment, Bailey isn't even near being Triple-A Louisville's best starter.

The numbers from Bailey's last three starts aren't pretty. In 14 1/3 innings, he's 0-1 with a 9.42 ERA, 21 hits allowed, 13 walks and 11 strikeouts.

"I know he's been struggling with his command with the last two starts," Reds player development director Terry Reynolds said on Friday. "Too many balls, too many deep counts. It's something he has to work through."

Bailey had a 2.71 ERA through his first seven starts. Overall, he's 4-4 with a 4.30 ERA.

In his most recent outing on Thursday at Toledo, Bailey worked five innings and gave up five earned runs, five hits and five walks in a no-decision. In the start before that, May 16 vs. Scranton-Wilkes Barre, the 22-year-old right-hander walked six in five innings for a loss.

Meanwhile, Justin Lehr has been solid for Louisville and is 4-2 with a 2.41 ERA in eight starts. Tom Shearn, who went 3-0 as a September callup last season, entered his 10th start on Friday with 6-1 record and a 4.14 ERA.

Lack of control or aggressiveness in the strike zone was a factor in Bailey's being sent down during Spring Training. He was a candidate for a big league rotation spot, but was beat out by Johnny Cueto and Edinson Volquez.

"At this point, it's one of the things mentally he has to get past," Reynolds said. "It's not one certain thing you can point a finger at. He's had streaks like this before where he nibbles around the plate and doesn't trust his stuff.

"He has to get back to where he believes that he has the ability to put pitches in the strike zone that will get hitters out. Like a hitter in a slump, he has to work his way out of it."

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080523&content_id=2755450&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Aronchis
05-24-2008, 11:17 PM
""At this point, it's one of the things mentally he has to get past," Reynolds said. "It's not one certain thing you can point a finger at. He's had streaks like this before where he nibbles around the plate and doesn't trust his stuff."

This was about as much a confirmation as anybody could get that it is all in Homer's head. "Trusting" can be translated into throwing like you can. Consistant 93-95mph heat with times his velocity reaching 96-98.

Hopefully he decides to pitch the way he can and not the way he is. When he made that decision 2 years ago, he made a nice leap up the food chain.

But with that guy, you just don't know.

chicoruiz
05-24-2008, 11:41 PM
IMHO, getting raked in AAA is the best thing that can happen to Homer. It might just be the kind of shock therapy he needs to realize he has some work to do.

lidspinner
05-25-2008, 12:00 AM
IMHO, getting raked in AAA is the best thing that can happen to Homer. It might just be the kind of shock therapy he needs to realize he has some work to do.

I 100% agree with ya but dag gone, how much shock therapy does this cat need? I am startign to think he wont make it.

cincyinco
05-25-2008, 03:37 AM
Homer is 22. Lets not get carried away. One need only look at Mr. Edinson Volquez to realize sometimes guys just need a bit of time. 22 is very ahead of the curve. I remember what I was like at 22 as well. Not the most mature person out there. You grow up. You focus more. With any luck, he'll turn the corner like Voltron. While there's still a chance he may end up more like Tomko, its far to early to not let him have a chance to find his way.

One other perfect example. Mr. Josh Hamilton. Lost his way as a kid, fell down a path of drug addiction. He at some point, saw the light. Although its an extreme example, it makes my point. Bailey doesn't have the same kind of extreme issues a guy like Hamilton does/did. So there's plenty of reason to believe he will mature as a person and as a professional if just given time.

Aronchis
05-25-2008, 06:01 AM
If I hear Volquez used as a example again, I will scream. Volquez never lost his heater like Homer has(on and off) and consistantly put up power numbers in AAA.

If Homer can't throw above 91-93mph consistantly, he is toast.

Degenerate39
05-25-2008, 10:42 AM
Maybe in September Volquez could talk to Homer about the mental side of pitching. Homer might listen to Volquez since he's having a great year thus far and is where Homer should be. I hope Homer does great in the rest of his outings in Triple A and gets the call in September.

SarasotaFan
05-25-2008, 12:20 PM
Maybe in September Volquez could talk to Homer about the mental side of pitching. Homer might listen to Volquez since he's having a great year thus far and is where Homer should be. I hope Homer does great in the rest of his outings in Triple A and gets the call in September.

Yeah that'll happen. :thumbdown

_Sir_Charles_
05-25-2008, 12:23 PM
If I hear Volquez used as a example again, I will scream. Volquez never lost his heater like Homer has(on and off) and consistantly put up power numbers in AAA.

If Homer can't throw above 91-93mph consistantly, he is toast.

Homer hasn't lost his heater. I think people tend to forget that he's simply added a cutter to his arsenal. The cut fastball is the one that's in the lower 90's. His regular hard fastball is still mid to upper 90's. But developing the cutter was one of his objectives at Louisville.

SarasotaFan
05-25-2008, 12:25 PM
Homer hasn't lost his heater. I think people tend to forget that he's simply added a cutter to his arsenal. The cut fastball is the one that's in the lower 90's. His regular hard fastball is still mid to upper 90's. But developing the cutter was one of his objectives at Louisville.

mid to upper 90's refers to 95 - 97 / 98....from the reports i'm reading it's been low 90's (90 / 91 / 92)

_Sir_Charles_
05-25-2008, 12:37 PM
For the cutter. Yes. He's throwing the cutter MUCH more than the regular fastball.

SarasotaFan
05-25-2008, 12:43 PM
For the cutter. Yes. He's throwing the cutter MUCH more than the regular fastball.

no. i seriously doubt he's throwing a cutter or even a cut-fastball in the low 90's...his straight fastball is in the low 90's

dougdirt
05-25-2008, 12:59 PM
no. i seriously doubt he's throwing a cutter or even a cut-fastball in the low 90's...his straight fastball is in the low 90's

Wrong. I have watched all of Homer's starts this year but 2. His cutter is working 88-92 MPH. His fastball is working 91-97 MPH.

SarasotaFan
05-25-2008, 01:04 PM
Wrong. I have watched all of Homer's starts this year but 2. His cutter is working 88-92 MPH. His fastball is working 91-97 MPH.
on MILB tv or live in and in person ?

dougdirt
05-25-2008, 01:06 PM
Milb.tv

SarasotaFan
05-25-2008, 01:23 PM
Milb.tv

i don't like the angle, i'd rather see it in person to believe it

dougdirt
05-25-2008, 01:24 PM
i don't like the angle, i'd rather see it in person to believe it

I guess....

SarasotaFan
05-25-2008, 01:29 PM
has nothing to do with radar readings...it's the pitch. it's like an announcer in a booth saying "wow look at that curve move while the radar gun says 92" and anyone in the stands can see it was a yanked fastball. you say it's a cutter but how much do you actually see it move ?

one of the better TV cam's - boston - they have a camera directly behind the pitcher (and overhead) - not off to the side.

dougdirt
05-25-2008, 01:37 PM
has nothing to do with radar readings...it's the pitch. it's like an announcer in a booth saying "wow look at that curve move while the radar gun says 92" and anyone in the stands can see it was a yanked fastball. you say it's a cutter but how much do you actually see it move ?

one of the better TV cam's - boston - they have a camera directly behind the pitcher (and overhead) - not off to the side.

I have seen Bailey throw some cutters this year that there was absolutely no doubt it was a cutter. While the camera angle does leave some to be desired baseball wide, I don't see if as much of an issue as you do.