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BuckeyeRedleg
05-29-2008, 06:10 PM
Weird question, but I was wondering if anyone knows where I could find a picture with the footprint of Riverfront Stadium as it stood compared to GABP today. I'm also wondering if they have any spots marked off. I know the Rose garden on the west side of the concourse (by the kiddie area) supposedly marks the spot where Rose's record breaking hit landed. Does anyone know if that is exact?

I'm really hoping that they have everything figured out so that whenever they decide to develop that site, they will have, for instance, a home plate marker or a marker for the bases. Just from gauging where it used to stand, in relation to GABP (from pictures before it was imploded) I would assume Main Street, which has since been extended, goes through what would have been the deep infield or shallow outfield.

I just have so many fond memories of Riverfront Stadium and although I love the new GABP, I miss the old lady big time, and I hope they make sure to remember her with exact markers of key locations.

I think it's pretty neat what they did in Atlanta. Although they built a parking lot on top of the old Fulton-County Stadium (just north of Turner Field), they marked the imprint of the old field on the parking lot and even have a garden in the middle of it, marking the spot where Hank Aaron's record breaking HR landed. See link below.


http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=33.73941,-84.389189&spn=0.003863,0.006716&t=h&z=18

westofyou
05-29-2008, 06:16 PM
This photo shows the basic, but not from overhead

http://reds.enquirer.com/2002/12/30/riverfront_zoom.jpg

And then Google

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=33.73941,-84.389189&spn=0.003863,0.006716&t=h&z=18

BuckeyeRedleg
05-29-2008, 06:20 PM
I just found this site which has pretty cool aerial photos of the stadium the day it was imploded.

http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/implosion2.html

By looking at the 4th picture from the top, you can see how Main Street (when extended) would go through the outfield.

They said at one point Riverfront stood something like 26 inches from the GABP when it was being built. Does anyone know what part of GABP that was? I'm assuming it's probably down the LF line in Riverfront. Maybe it was where those seats ended after being cut out and the second series of stairs/ramps on the west side of GABP?

BuckeyeRedleg
05-29-2008, 06:35 PM
That's a beautiful photo, WOY.

Here's the best I can see with google.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.096858,-84.508134&spn=0.003605,0.006716&t=h&z=18

What would be awesome is if someone had the ability to photoshop this satelite image with the exact footprint of the stadium all the way down to the locations of the bases to the inch.

Also, how do I paste the image from this link into the thread so people don't have to click the link? I can't believe I don't know how to do this and it's 2008. Thanks.

Cyclone792
05-29-2008, 06:58 PM
I'm also wondering if they have any spots marked off. I know the Rose garden on the west side of the concourse (by the kiddie area) supposedly marks the spot where Rose's record breaking hit landed. Does anyone know if that is exact?

I have heard that it's the exact spot, but I'm not for certain myself. By looking at the pictures though, it's at least very very close to that spot. That "Fan Zone" section of GABP encompasses the area that once was deep left and left center field of Riverfront. The Rose Garden is on the outside of the stadium in that section so it's very conceivable it would be in the spot where Rose's hit landed.


I just found this site which has pretty cool aerial photos of the stadium the day it was imploded.

http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/implosion2.html

By looking at the 4th picture from the top, you can see how Main Street (when extended) would go through the outfield.

They said at one point Riverfront stood something like 26 inches from the GABP when it was being built. Does anyone know what part of GABP that was? I'm assuming it's probably down the LF line in Riverfront. Maybe it was where those seats ended after being cut out and the second series of stairs/ramps on the west side of GABP?

That would have been down the left field line. I remember walking up the red seats in Riverfront out that way while Great American was being built, and it was a heckuva view. I didn't like Riverfront Stadium at all, but then again I wasn't around to experience the BRM days. I have to be honest, despite the lousy product on the field at the time, I had a lot of fun in Riverfront in 2001-02 after they blew the hole in the outfield and installed grass on the field.

Here's some interesting pictures:

http://www.megenconstruction.com/HRphotos/2ballparks.jpg

http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/past/cinergymainuse.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/patsen29/ballparks/pictures/cinergy1.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/patsen29/ballparks/pictures/cinergy2.jpg

Caseyfan21
05-29-2008, 07:33 PM
I just found this site which has pretty cool aerial photos of the stadium the day it was imploded.

http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/implosion2.html

By looking at the 4th picture from the top, you can see how Main Street (when extended) would go through the outfield.

They said at one point Riverfront stood something like 26 inches from the GABP when it was being built. Does anyone know what part of GABP that was? I'm assuming it's probably down the LF line in Riverfront. Maybe it was where those seats ended after being cut out and the second series of stairs/ramps on the west side of GABP?

From that website:


It will likely be another five years before the entire riverfront reconstruction is complete, but when it is it will be among the nation's best.

March 2003 - May/June 2008 - It's been over 5 years.

:ughmamoru

BCubb2003
05-30-2008, 02:09 AM
For many years it was thought that Roy Rogers' birthplace was at second place in Riverfront, but modern mapping technology eventually put it closer to Second Street.

Cyclone792
05-30-2008, 09:05 AM
Here's a few more I found:

http://www.geocities.jp/muguken1975/picture_ballpark_na/cinergy2.jpg

http://www.hamilton-co.org/GABP/images/Home2.JPG

BuckeyeRedleg
05-30-2008, 09:08 AM
Thanks, Cyclone. Very nice.

Heath
05-30-2008, 09:17 AM
you know, its not a bad looking ball park with the outfield cutout.

It's funny now, but when they cut the wedge out, I thought that was just fine.

KronoRed
05-30-2008, 01:22 PM
Looks like Shea

But..it still smelled like you know what so it's better it's gone now ;)

Cooper
05-30-2008, 02:05 PM
I wish it was still there....they could left the field and some of the stands ....wishful thinking -i just can't stand to see a ballpark tore down.

Blimpie
05-30-2008, 03:49 PM
Wierd, but I had almost forgotten about the big, giant batter's eye that was installed in Cinergy after the "bite" section was removed from the stadium.

gilpdawg
05-31-2008, 07:06 PM
IIRC, that thing was taller than the Green Monster, although the Monster looks massive on TV, and the black eye in center didn't look that big on TV. I actually dug the "new" Riverfront those last couple of seasons.

TeamBoone
06-01-2008, 10:23 AM
Looks like Shea

But..it still smelled like you know what so it's better it's gone now ;)

Krono, I never smelled anything adverse at Riverfront. Did you make this up? :confused:

DoogMinAmo
06-01-2008, 11:40 AM
Yes, it will be commemorated. The breathtaking riverfront park designed by Sasaki & Associates will have at least a marker for home plate. See the tenth slide on the slide show.

http://www.crpark.org/slide_show/index.html

Construction has finally begun on both the first phase of the Banks and the riverfront park, due to be complete for opening day 2011 (throw the streetcar in there too, if you are an optimist like myself). Great American Tower will loom over the ballpark as well. In 10 years, after being the laughingstock of the city, the riverfront will be a crown jewel, and something other cities will envy.

Pride.

Reds Freak
06-01-2008, 12:23 PM
Yes, it will be commemorated. The breathtaking riverfront park designed by Sasaki & Associates will have at least a marker for home plate. See the tenth slide on the slide show.

http://www.crpark.org/slide_show/index.html

Construction has finally begun on both the first phase of the Banks and the riverfront park, due to be complete for opening day 2011 (throw the streetcar in there too, if you are an optimist like myself). Great American Tower will loom over the ballpark as well. In 10 years, after being the laughingstock of the city, the riverfront will be a crown jewel, and something other cities will envy.

Pride.

That park looks absolutely gorgeous from those slides. Hopefully it is done right. Not only will it do wonders for the city and the riverfront, it will really enhance the ball park experience too when attending Reds games...

KronoRed
06-01-2008, 04:12 PM
Krono, I never smelled anything adverse at Riverfront. Did you make this up? :confused:

No, but to be fair I was only there three times so maybe I just picked bad days :D

BuckeyeRedleg
06-01-2008, 09:26 PM
Yes, it will be commemorated. The breathtaking riverfront park designed by Sasaki & Associates will have at least a marker for home plate. See the tenth slide on the slide show.

http://www.crpark.org/slide_show/index.html

Construction has finally begun on both the first phase of the Banks and the riverfront park, due to be complete for opening day 2011 (throw the streetcar in there too, if you are an optimist like myself). Great American Tower will loom over the ballpark as well. In 10 years, after being the laughingstock of the city, the riverfront will be a crown jewel, and something other cities will envy.

Pride.


That is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.

I was there Friday and took a tour of the Hall of Fame. It was an incredible experience and I'd recommend it to anyone. For $10, you get a pass that lasts the whole season. I will be back, because there wasn't enough time to see it all. The Nuxall exihibit was awesome.

One thing I'm wondering. As I was looking out south from the wall of baseballs commerating Pete Rose and his 4256 hits, I noticed south of the Rose garden was green grass, but it almost looked like artificial turf from Riverfront. Does anyone know if that's the actual field from the old park?

nineworldseries
06-02-2008, 12:46 PM
Krono, I never smelled anything adverse at Riverfront. Did you make this up? :confused:


No, but to be fair I was only there three times so maybe I just picked bad days :D

Seriously? Riverfront stank. It smelled like burnt rubber and a 1970s gym locker mixed together.

Cyclone792
06-02-2008, 01:02 PM
Krono, I never smelled anything adverse at Riverfront. Did you make this up? :confused:


No, but to be fair I was only there three times so maybe I just picked bad days :D


Seriously? Riverfront stank. It smelled like burnt rubber and a 1970s gym locker mixed together.

There were some areas of Riverfront in the concourses that just smelled bad. Most of the seating areas were fine since they were out in the open a bit, but if you walked through the concourses you'd pass by sections where the place reeked.

westofyou
06-02-2008, 01:06 PM
There were some areas of Riverfront in the concourses that just smelled bad. Most of the seating areas were fine since they were out in the open a bit, but if you walked through the concourses you'd pass by sections where the place reeked.

Most sweaty, humid places stink... especially during the oppressive heat of an Ohio summer.

But towards the end the place really stunk the worst when the Bengals were on the field.

vaticanplum
06-02-2008, 02:23 PM
Yes, it will be commemorated. The breathtaking riverfront park designed by Sasaki & Associates will have at least a marker for home plate. See the tenth slide on the slide show.

http://www.crpark.org/slide_show/index.html

Construction has finally begun on both the first phase of the Banks and the riverfront park, due to be complete for opening day 2011 (throw the streetcar in there too, if you are an optimist like myself). Great American Tower will loom over the ballpark as well. In 10 years, after being the laughingstock of the city, the riverfront will be a crown jewel, and something other cities will envy.

Pride.

I'm very surprised at how fast construction seems to be going. I'm no developer, but I can literally see the changes day by day. Maybe I should document it.

Those photos actually made me nostalgiac for Riverfront. Which I never really thought I'd be (never had anything against it, just didn't mind it going down). But when I was little that place was a wonder. It seemed unimaginably massive.

vaticanplum
06-02-2008, 02:58 PM
One thing I'm wondering. As I was looking out south from the wall of baseballs commerating Pete Rose and his 4256 hits, I noticed south of the Rose garden was green grass, but it almost looked like artificial turf from Riverfront. Does anyone know if that's the actual field from the old park?

I've wondered that too. I don't know what that little patch is for if it's not commemorative.

The best part of that slide show was the porch swings. Awesome!

OldRightHander
06-02-2008, 03:45 PM
Looking at those pictures, I'm already looking forward to going downtown hours before a game and hanging out until the gates open. Think about a Saturday evening game on a nice day and you'll be able to hang out there for a while before walking on over to the ballpark.

Reds Freak
06-02-2008, 03:46 PM
I'm very surprised at how fast construction seems to be going. I'm no developer, but I can literally see the changes day by day. Maybe I should document it.

Those photos actually made me nostalgiac for Riverfront. Which I never really thought I'd be (never had anything against it, just didn't mind it going down). But when I was little that place was a wonder. It seemed unimaginably massive.

Someone already beat you to documenting it, on the web at least. Check out www.thebanksblog.com. Whoever writes it updates it with pictures almost daily and has very good comments to go along with it...

Chip R
06-02-2008, 03:50 PM
Looking at those pictures, I'm already looking forward to going downtown hours before a game and hanging out until the gates open.


You should live so long.

GoReds33
06-02-2008, 04:04 PM
Seeing as they already have started, it's not like they won't atleast finish the first part. They've already got financing, and builders, so that much is pretty much guaranteed. It's the rest that I worry about.

TeamBoone
06-05-2008, 10:40 AM
Looking at those pictures, I'm already looking forward to going downtown hours before a game and hanging out until the gates open. Think about a Saturday evening game on a nice day and you'll be able to hang out there for a while before walking on over to the ballpark.

I sometimes hang at the Inbetween or the Machine Room prior to game time... don't know if that will change or not, but it's nice to have choices.

Reds Freak, I can't get your link to work.

Reds Freak
06-06-2008, 10:39 AM
I sometimes hang at the Inbetween or the Machine Room prior to game time... don't know if that will change or not, but it's nice to have choices.

Reds Freak, I can't get your link to work.

Every once in a while, I think they have issues with that site and it says "page can't be displayed". It worked for me when I just clicked on it..