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OnBaseMachine
05-30-2008, 02:01 PM
No. 4 DARYL THOMPSON, RHP, REDS
Team: Triple-A Louisville (International)
Age: 22
Why He's Here: 2-0, 1.38, 13 IP, 8 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 0 HR, 2 BB, 13 K
The Scoop: We like to reward the prospects who have performed well all season, and that's exactly what Thompson has done this year. Thompson becomes the first player this year to make the Hot Sheet based on his weekly performance with two different teams. On Friday, May 23, Thompson allowed two runs, struck out seven and walked none in six innings for Double-Chattanooga. In his first Triple-A start on Wednesday, Thompson allowed one run (unearned) in seven innings, allowing four hits, one walk and striking out six. Working off an explosive 91-94 mph fastball, a slow curve, a slider and a changeup, Thompson finished Double-A with a 1.76 ERA in 61 1/3 innings and a 56-14 K-BB mark.

No. 13 MATT MALONEY, LHP, REDS
Team: Triple-A Louisville (International)
Age: 24
Why he's here: 1-0, 1.29, 14 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 HR, 5 BB, 13 SO
The Scoop: Maloney joined the Reds organization at the 2007 trade deadline, when the Phillies swapped him for a month of Kyle Lohse. Lohse gave the Phillies the innings they were looking for—and somehow managed to go 3-0 despite a 4.72 ERA—but Maloney just keeps on trucking for Cincinnati. A third-round pick out of Mississippi in 2005, Maloney has been in contention for a spot on the Hot Sheet all May, a month in which he went 4-1, 2.56 in 38 2/3 innings (six starts), and gave up only one home run, struck out 30 and walked 11. Though he stands 6-foot-4, weighs 220 pounds and has struck out about a batter per inning in his minor league career, Maloney is not a power pitcher. Instead he thrives on a 87-91 mph sinker, a plus changeup and pitchability to spare. Look for him in the Cincinnati rotation before season's end.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-hot-sheet/2008/266213.html

BA chat will be held at 1:30.

Homer Bailey
05-30-2008, 02:32 PM
I can't wait to see Maloney this year. I really don't think it will be that much longer.

NorrisHopper30
05-30-2008, 02:59 PM
Exciting to see the success of these two young guys while (hopefully) Homer straightens out.

I'd much rather see Maloney or Thompson than Fogg on Saturday.

OnBaseMachine
05-30-2008, 05:16 PM
The chat got pushed back to 4:00.

Here's the first Reds related question.

Q: Sandsniper from Florida asks:
Please rank from top to bottom. With all the excitement this week with Jay Bruce, David Price and Clayton Kershaw...Who's the best of the bunch?

A: Ben Badler: Bruce 1, Kershaw 1-A and Price 1-AA. You're talking about three potential superstars.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/chat.php?id=2008053001&rnd=3

OnBaseMachine
05-30-2008, 05:18 PM
Q: Kyle from Middletown asks:
Where do you think Daryl Thompson will fit in the Reds top prospect list next year if he maintains this level of performance? Could he potentially crack BA's top 100?

A: J.J. Cooper: The Reds will likely graduate their top four prospects (Bruce, Bailey, Votto, Cueto) from last year's Top 30, so there's definitely some room for advancement. Assuming that Thompson keeps this up, he's a pretty surefire Reds Top 10 Prospect next year, and likely will work his way into top five. He can command the fastball and get swings and misses on it. That's a very valuable thing. Sorry but considering the Top 100 is nine months away I'm not ready to make a guess on that yet.

Spring~Fields
05-30-2008, 05:37 PM
Thanks OBM, really good and encouraging reports.

Sea Ray
05-30-2008, 05:45 PM
No. 13 MATT MALONEY, LHP, REDS
Team: Triple-A Louisville (International)
Age: 24
Maloney is not a power pitcher. Instead he thrives on a 87-91 mph sinker, a plus changeup and pitchability to spare. Look for him in the Cincinnati rotation before season's end.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-hot-sheet/2008/266213.html

BA chat will be held at 1:30.

I'd love to see a sinkerballer in the Reds rotation and I'm befuddled as to why we don't already have one. Seems to me sinkerball pitchers would do better in GABP than power pitchers and we sure can use a LH sinkerballer in this rotation now to go with four RHs including three power pitchers. The Cardinals have made a point of seeking out sinkerballers and I don't know why the Reds haven't done the same

dougdirt
05-30-2008, 06:13 PM
I'd love to see a sinkerballer in the Reds rotation and I'm befuddled as to why we don't already have one. Seems to me sinkerball pitchers would do better in GABP than power pitchers and we sure can use a LH sinkerballer in this rotation now to go with four RHs including three power pitchers. The Cardinals have made a point of seeking out sinkerballers and I don't know why the Reds haven't done the same

Maloney might throw a sinker ball, but he doesn't get many groundballs. He is getting 35% ground balls, 25% line drives and 40% fly balls. So 65% of the balls he has put in play against him are in the air.

Sea Ray
05-30-2008, 06:31 PM
Maloney might throw a sinker ball, but he doesn't get many groundballs. He is getting 35% ground balls, 25% line drives and 40% fly balls. So 65% of the balls he has put in play against him are in the air.

So he sounds more like Tom Browning than Tommy John.

My point remains that I think this organization needs to stress the sinkerball either in talent or in coaching

Aronchis
05-30-2008, 06:57 PM
Travis Wood has a plus changeup. Maloney's at best is above average.

dougdirt
05-30-2008, 07:08 PM
Travis Wood has a plus changeup. Maloney's at best is above average.

Travis Wood has the best change up in the minor leagues and easily the second best in the organization behind only, MAYBE, Edinson Volquez.

Grande Donkey
05-30-2008, 07:34 PM
Travis Wood has the best change up in the minor leagues and easily the second best in the organization behind only, MAYBE, Edinson Volquez.
All minor leagues or all Reds minor leagues?

dougdirt
05-30-2008, 07:39 PM
All minor leagues or all Reds minor leagues?

All minor leagues. He has far and away the best changeup of every Reds minor leaguer. That contest isn't even close.

membengal
05-30-2008, 08:31 PM
Volquez is torturing the Braves with his change-up tonite. If Wood has a change-up anywhere close to that, I am looking forward to seeing him in Cincy in a year or so. Gracious.

dougdirt
05-30-2008, 08:34 PM
Volquez is torturing the Braves with his change-up tonite. If Wood has a change-up anywhere close to that, I am looking forward to seeing him in Cincy in a year or so. Gracious.

Scout I talked to saw him this year, said its the best change up in baseball thrown by a lefty not named Cole Hamels.... so yeah, its pretty good.

NorrisHopper30
05-30-2008, 09:31 PM
Scout I talked to saw him this year, said its the best change up in baseball thrown by a lefty not named Cole Hamels.... so yeah, its pretty good.

How old is Travis?

membengal
05-30-2008, 09:32 PM
Scout I talked to saw him this year, said its the best change up in baseball thrown by a lefty not named Cole Hamels.... so yeah, its pretty good.

Mmmmmm.

dougdirt
05-30-2008, 09:33 PM
How old is Travis?

Turned 21 in February.

reds44
05-30-2008, 09:33 PM
Scout I talked to saw him this year, said its the best change up in baseball thrown by a lefty not named Cole Hamels.... so yeah, its pretty good.
Johan?

Grande Donkey
05-30-2008, 09:34 PM
Scout I talked to saw him this year, said its the best change up in baseball thrown by a lefty not named Cole Hamels.... so yeah, its pretty good.WOW. What is the report on his other pitches?

dougdirt
05-30-2008, 09:39 PM
Johan?

Is he named Cole Hamels?

dougdirt
05-30-2008, 09:40 PM
WOW. What is the report on his other pitches?

Fastball was 88-91 on the night and hit 92 at times. His cutter was working really well and is a good pitch right now.

fearofpopvol1
05-31-2008, 02:43 AM
Is he named Cole Hamels?

A lot of people consider Johan's one of (if not) the best changeups in the game.

Also, after seeing Volquez pitch again tonight, I find it hard to believe Wood's is better. I've not seen it, but Volquez's change is pretty disgusting. I've watched a lot of pitchers over the years and it's definitely one of the best I've ever seen...mostly because of how he frames it compared to his fastball. The location is just sick.

dougdirt
05-31-2008, 02:48 AM
A lot of people consider Johan's one of (if not) the best changeups in the game.

Also, after seeing Volquez pitch again tonight, I find it hard to believe Wood's is better. I've not seen it, but Volquez's change is pretty disgusting. I've watched a lot of pitchers over the years and it's definitely one of the best I've ever seen...mostly because of how he frames it compared to his fastball. The location is just sick.

Personally I think Santana's change up is a tad bit overrated. It is a very, very good pitch so lets not take it the wrong way.... but its not the best pitch in baseball and it gets talked about like it is. He may be the best pitcher in the game, but that doesn't mean he has the best pitch. Volquez changeup is sick on many different levels, the difference in speed, the location he can throw it with, the tumble on it.... then there is the fact that his fastball might be coming at 97 MPH, oh wait, thats just an 81 MPH change that looks just like it. Crap.

bucksfan2
05-31-2008, 10:39 AM
Personally I think Santana's change up is a tad bit overrated. It is a very, very good pitch so lets not take it the wrong way.... but its not the best pitch in baseball and it gets talked about like it is. He may be the best pitcher in the game, but that doesn't mean he has the best pitch. Volquez changeup is sick on many different levels, the difference in speed, the location he can throw it with, the tumble on it.... then there is the fact that his fastball might be coming at 97 MPH, oh wait, thats just an 81 MPH change that looks just like it. Crap.

I had heard rumors before that there was thought that Santana was tipping his change up. They said it was so good that even though he was tipping it players couldn't hit it. Can't remember where I heard that though.

dougdirt
05-31-2008, 12:05 PM
I had heard rumors before that there was thought that Santana was tipping his change up. They said it was so good that even though he was tipping it players couldn't hit it. Can't remember where I heard that though.

Not sure where you heard that or if its true.... but last year when players put wood on the ball against his change up they absolutely obliterated the baseball.

Hondo
05-31-2008, 01:19 PM
Not sure where you heard that or if its true.... but last year when players put wood on the ball against his change up they absolutely obliterated the baseball.

Yeah, I would have hated to have his 235 K's, 3.33 ERA, and 15 Wins...

That would have been terrible, and this year, 6 Wins and a 3.41 ERA sure would look nice in a Cincy Uniform...

Johan Santana is probably one of the Best Pitchers in the Game... While Pedro had his time, Johan has had and is continuing to have his, and now Volquez is probably headed to "His" time as the man...

Santana is a work horse who I would love to have on my staff, if i had a Major League Club, or I was a Manager, or a Pitching Coach... Or etc...

Patrick Bateman
05-31-2008, 01:41 PM
That really had nothing to do with Doug's argument.

dougdirt
05-31-2008, 01:46 PM
Yeah, I would have hated to have his 235 K's, 3.33 ERA, and 15 Wins...

That would have been terrible, and this year, 6 Wins and a 3.41 ERA sure would look nice in a Cincy Uniform...

Johan Santana is probably one of the Best Pitchers in the Game... While Pedro had his time, Johan has had and is continuing to have his, and now Volquez is probably headed to "His" time as the man...

Santana is a work horse who I would love to have on my staff, if i had a Major League Club, or I was a Manager, or a Pitching Coach... Or etc...

I am not sure what any of that has to do with his change up being overrated a little bit and his change up getting obliterated when guys hit it. Both of which are entirely accurate statements. That doesn't mean he isn't one of the best pitchers in baseball or that his changeup isn't very good..... he is and it is.

Hondo
05-31-2008, 01:48 PM
I am not sure what any of that has to do with his change up being overrated a little bit and his change up getting obliterated when guys hit it. Both of which are entirely accurate statements. That doesn't mean he isn't one of the best pitchers in baseball or that his changeup isn't very good..... he is and it is.


I am not trying to argue with you, but how do you measure "obliterated" change ups?

Do they have a Batting Average against for his Change Ups?

dougdirt
05-31-2008, 02:01 PM
I am not trying to argue with you, but how do you measure "obliterated" change ups?

Do they have a Batting Average against for his Change Ups?

Last year, here is what hitters did against his change up:

LHH - .400/.400/.400 (interesting that no XBH against it).
RHH - .357/.357/.667

Now those numbers are only when its put in play, but those numbers are very bad.

NorrisHopper30
05-31-2008, 02:02 PM
I am not trying to argue with you, but how do you measure "obliterated" change ups?

Do they have a Batting Average against for his Change Ups?

He said when they made contact with his changeup it was obliterated. Not that they hit it well.

Hondo
05-31-2008, 02:05 PM
So what were was he average against his Change up alone?

dougdirt
05-31-2008, 02:08 PM
So what were was he average against his Change up alone?

I just showed that above, lefties had an .800 OPS when it was put in play and righting were sitting at 1.024 OPS when it was put in play. The league average against a change up was .319/.319/.502 for an .821 OPS.

Hondo
05-31-2008, 02:10 PM
I just showed that above, lefties had an .800 OPS when it was put in play and righting were sitting at 1.024 OPS when it was put in play. The league average against a change up was .319/.319/.502 for an .821 OPS.

Well, I was confused about your "put in play" term...

dougdirt
05-31-2008, 02:14 PM
Well, I was confused about your "put in play" term...

Well its not exactly possible to calculate a strike 1 in terms of an average, so its really only doable based on balls that are either an error, hit, sacrafice or an out.

Hondo
05-31-2008, 02:22 PM
Well its not exactly possible to calculate a strike 1 in terms of an average, so its really only doable based on balls that are either an error, hit, sacrafice or an out.

are you mocking me with that? Oh and I thought you were trying to pursuade that Joahn Santana is washed up...

dougdirt
05-31-2008, 02:33 PM
are you mocking me with that?

No, just stating that is why its calculated with the balls in play, because while a strike 3 is technically an 'out' its basically the same as strike 1 and thats not an out.