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thatcoolguy_22
06-02-2008, 08:34 AM
There are threads discussing Homer but I didn't see one with a direct comparison to Maloney. Anyways here goes


Bailey W L ERA GS IP H R ER BB SO GO/AO BAA
April 4 2 2.29 6 39.1 30 10 10 9 32 0.76 .213
May 0 2 6.59 5 27.1 33 21 20 20 22 1.50 .303

Maloney W L ERA GS IP H R ER BB SO GO/AO BAA
April 2 1 6.65 5 23 30 17 17 8 24 0.61 .323
May 4 1 2.56 6 38.2 28 11 11 11 30 0.81 .204

Homer Bailey on the year

Year Age Team BB/PA K/PA BABIP GB% HR/Air FIP BsRA9
2008 22 AAA 10.4% 18.5% .302 45% 5% 4.10 4.40

Matt Maloney

Year Age Team BB/PA K/PA BABIP GB% HR/Air FIP BsRA9
2008 24 AAA 7.3% 20.6% .328 35% 1% 2.72 3.11




I would much rather have a lefty with an 87-91 mph sinker in the 5th spot pitching well as oppose to an ex fireballing texas phenom. I planned on spending more time on this post but I have to go back to work. I'll post a more detailed reasoning for my opinion when I get a minute but check out the FIP


Discuss

Jefferson24
06-02-2008, 08:46 AM
I don't care who comes up as long as they give the Reds a chance to win. A chance to win in the #5 spot is all any team asks for. So far this year those chances have been few and far between. I would think Baily gets two shots, he struggles they bring up Matt. Either way it should be an improvement.

smoke6
06-02-2008, 08:55 AM
I heard Maloney isn't on the 40 man roster. Does that have anything to do with it?

SarasotaFan
06-02-2008, 10:25 AM
I heard Maloney isn't on the 40 man roster. Does that have anything to do with it?
Indeed it does if it's only a temporary position to be filled. They probably figured they'd give Homer another shot 1) because he's on the roster and it's an easy move 2) it would only have to be for 2 weeks (2 maybe a 3rd start) and they could see how he does with his 2nd stint

44Magnum
06-02-2008, 10:28 AM
I think Homer is ready. I like the move.

Hondo
06-02-2008, 10:42 AM
I have been pulling for Homer for awile now... I think Walt has been scanning my posts here in redszone for what move to make next...

Ah ha...

I hope Homer goes out there and after 6 Innings, Dusty pulls him... I would like him to atleast go that far with less than 100 pitches, and give up 3 ER or less... This guy is going to be so pumped from the call up... I bet he K's 10 or more guys... Like a breath of Fresh Air!!!

Anyhow... I just hope Friday we're all here talking about how it's great to be Reds fans with all these young guys leading the way... I am excited for Homer, and excited for the organization... Harang, Arroyo, Volquez, Cueto, Bailey... Wouldn't that be nice with all those guys going out there with a chance to WIN? Homer's got the stuff, I am fully backing him and I hope everyone on here gets behind him... HE still could be "THE GUY"

ChatterRed
06-02-2008, 11:46 AM
Clearly the pitcher who earned a promotion didn't get the promotion.

I guess Homer's sulking and whining have paid off for the kid.

If I were Reds management, I'd greet Homer at the door with the newspaper quotes of him saying he thought he should been a starter from day one out of Spring Training and that he has nothing left to learn in triple A. (summarizing) Then I'd say, prove it.

When he gets shelled, I'd hand him a list of things that he did wrong in the game and tell him when he straightens things out, he'll get another chance. Hehehe.

Jr's Boy
06-02-2008, 11:53 AM
I would much rather have a lefty with an 87-91 mph sinker in the 5th spot pitching well as oppose to an ex fireballing texas phenom.



Yeah being 22 will knock serious speed off that fastball.I can't believe some of you people on here.

ChatterRed
06-02-2008, 11:54 AM
I would much rather have a lefty with an 87-91 mph sinker in the 5th spot pitching well as oppose to an ex fireballing texas phenom.



Yeah being 22 will knock serious speed off that fastball.I can't believe some of you people on here.

There are those in the know who say Bailey's fastball speed has decreased into the low 90's as opposed to his mid to upper 90's it used to be.

Jr's Boy
06-02-2008, 11:57 AM
My point is he is young,whats not to say he cant crank it back up.

levydl
06-02-2008, 12:04 PM
Clearly the pitcher who earned a promotion didn't get the promotion.

I guess Homer's sulking and whining have paid off for the kid.

If I were Reds management, I'd greet Homer at the door with the newspaper quotes of him saying he thought he should been a starter from day one out of Spring Training and that he has nothing left to learn in triple A. (summarizing) Then I'd say, prove it.

When he gets shelled, I'd hand him a list of things that he did wrong in the game and tell him when he straightens things out, he'll get another chance. Hehehe.

Homer and Maloney have strikingly similar stats this year. Both have slumped, Maloney early, Homer recently. Homer's also pitched in the bigs before, while Maloney hasn't.

levydl
06-02-2008, 12:06 PM
There are those in the know who say Bailey's fastball speed has decreased into the low 90's as opposed to his mid to upper 90's it used to be.

That's an objective fact. You don't have to be in the know to look at the scoreboard and see the pitch velocity.

Fullboat
06-02-2008, 12:57 PM
Pitching against the Phillies is a tough act right now, Maloney
is probably thinking better you then me kid.

SarasotaFan
06-02-2008, 01:02 PM
Pitching against the Phillies is a tough act right now, Maloney
is probably thinking better you then me kid.
yeah you're right. better you get paid more than me. better you get a better life than me. better you get service time towards pension than me.

Fullboat
06-02-2008, 01:07 PM
yeah you're right. better you get paid more than me. better you get a better life than me. better you get service time towards pension than me.

Maloney will get his chance.I think the Reds are setting
Homer up for a fall.

SarasotaFan
06-02-2008, 01:16 PM
Maloney will get his chance.I think the Reds are setting
Homer up for a fall.
haha it's a plot to lower his ego while raising his ERA ???

44Magnum
06-02-2008, 01:36 PM
There are those in the know who say Bailey's fastball speed has decreased into the low 90's as opposed to his mid to upper 90's it used to be.

The Reds have screwed up Homer's mechanics. They tried to turn him into Harang. If I were Bailey, I would forget the garbage the Reds have been trying to get him to swallow and go back to my old mechanics.

He is not a slow, tall and fall pitcher with a short stride like Harang.

smoke6
06-02-2008, 01:38 PM
The Reds have screwed up Homer's mechanics. They tried to turn him into Harang. If I were Bailey, I would forget the garbage the Reds have been trying to get him to swallow and go back to my old mechanics.

He is not a slow, tall and fall pitcher with a short stride like Harang.

Not doing what the Reds tell him and doing what he wants has already earned him the reputation of being a jerk. Good idea.:D

SarasotaFan
06-02-2008, 02:02 PM
The Reds have screwed up Homer's mechanics. They tried to turn him into Harang. If I were Bailey, I would forget the garbage the Reds have been trying to get him to swallow and go back to my old mechanics.

He is not a slow, tall and fall pitcher with a short stride like Harang.
and let him continue throw a flat and straight 90 mph fastball ???

757690
06-02-2008, 02:04 PM
Pitching against the Phillies is a tough act right now, Maloney
is probably thinking better you then me kid.

I doubt Maloney is thinking that, but I think that did play into the Reds thinking. It seems like a spot start, and is against a red hot offense in hitters ballpark. I'm not sure I would want to give that assignment to someone as their major league debut. I think the Reds would rather have Maloney eased into the rotation, instead of a baptism by fire.