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OnBaseMachine
05-27-2008, 01:36 AM
Just a little fwiw, but Adam Dunn went 1-for-3 with a single and intentional walk against Matt Clement in his major league debut. Austin Kearns went 1-for-3 with a RBI single and HBP against Carlos Hernandez in his debut.

OnBaseMachine
05-27-2008, 01:38 AM
Roenicke has control issues. He's not ready...

He had a little spurt of wildness early in the season but has only walked two batters in his last 10 appearances (8.2 innings). His power arm is needed in the Reds pen IMO.

toledodan
05-27-2008, 01:40 AM
He had a little spurt of wildness early in the season but has only walked two batters in his last 10 appearances (8.2 innings). His power arm is needed in the Reds pen IMO.



i agree as well. he has good stuff.:thumbup:

reds44
05-27-2008, 01:41 AM
Just a little fwiw, but Adam Dunn went 1-for-3 with a single and intentional walk against Matt Clement in his major league debut. Austin Kearns went 1-for-3 with a RBI single and HBP against Carlos Hernandez in his debut.
And Josh Hamilton went yard.

Well in his first start.

Reds Nd2
05-27-2008, 01:52 AM
There isn't just one move that can fix this team vs the competition, but it is a start.

Jay Bruce helps, but this team was in pretty good shape before too. I understand that most, if not all, of RedsZone will disagree with that, but even the worst GM in history could have called up Jay Bruce.

Spring~Fields
05-27-2008, 01:55 AM
He had a little spurt of wildness early in the season but has only walked two batters in his last 10 appearances (8.2 innings). His power arm is needed in the Reds pen IMO.

Jocketty has been making some serious moves in personnel lately in the minors, moving several forward. He is probably aware of the improvements made by Roenicke.

I really believe that group of players will have that athletic attitude that you can’t beat us type of fire in them once they get over the initiation period of Bruce. I really believe that Dunn, Phillips, Bruce, Votto, Hairston and Freel will push and pull one another to excel and jell as competitive driven force together.

AmarilloRed
05-27-2008, 01:57 AM
Jay Bruce helps, but this team was in pretty good shape before too. I understand that most, if not all, of RedsZone will disagree with that, but even the worst GM in history could have called up Jay Bruce.

I suppose it's water under the bridge, but I suspect Bruce might still be in Louisville if Krivsky was the GM. He let Votto play all year in AAA, and only brought him up in September last year. Wayne promoted players far more slowly than Jocketty seems to have done so far.

Spring~Fields
05-27-2008, 01:58 AM
Jay Bruce helps, but this team was in pretty good shape before too. I understand that most, if not all, of RedsZone will disagree with that, but even the worst GM in history could have called up Jay Bruce.

Yes any GM could have done that, but it signals that Jocketty is now moving forwards and you may very well see some of the types of moves that you are looking for, Jocketty had to start, now he has.

fearofpopvol1
05-27-2008, 02:02 AM
I'd actually prefer the Reds jettison Hatteberg. I really like Hatte, but Patterson is a better bench option than Hatte is at this juncture. Cutting Hatte would also be a smaller financial loss.

Of course, if the Reds keep Patterson, the temptation for Baker to continue using him regularly is still there.

Spring~Fields
05-27-2008, 02:09 AM
I'd actually prefer the Reds jettison Hatteberg. I really like Hatte, but Patterson is a better bench option than Hatte is at this juncture. Cutting Hatte would also be a smaller financial loss.

Of course, if the Reds keep Patterson, the temptation for Baker to continue using him regularly is still there.

That might be the move because Hatteberg struggles with pinch hitting and limited playing time, along with that lower priced contract. Plus Hatteberg is locked into playing one position and the Reds have several fillers to fill in at first base, and Hatterberg would probably like to have an opportunity to catch on where he might get more playing time naturally.

Dusty has been working a long time with Patterson clear back to Patterson's early days with Chicago, he always believed in him. I would like to see that relationship split up.

mth123
05-27-2008, 02:46 AM
Matt Belisle: 29.2 IP, 7.28 ERA
Josh Fogg: 25 IP, 9.00 ERA
Mike Lincoln: 21.2 IP, 6.65 ERA
Todd Coffey: 15.1 IP, 6.46 ERA
David Weathers: 16.1 IP, 4.96 ERA

That's 108 innings of suck. A 7.08 ERA over those 108 innings. Those innings are relevant when looking at how the Reds have performed in 2008, they are not relevant when looking at how the Reds are going to perform in 2009/2010. None of those guys are going to be around then (save maybe Belisle in the bullpen). The flip side of this is that the good numbers Affeldt and Mercker have also shouldn't be considered.

If you want to evaluate the Reds' chances of being good in the future you need to look at the players who are still going to be here:

Aaron Harang
Edinson Volquez
Bronson Arroyo
Johnny Cueto
Francisco Cordero
Jared Burton
Bill Bray

Those seven have combined for 313 innings of 3.76 ERA. It's not a full pitching staff, but it's a nice start. Those are the guys who will throw the lion's share of the innings over the next few seasons. It illustrates that the problem with the Reds staff is not that our best pitchers are worse than other teams' best pitchers, it's that our bad pitchers are worse than other team's bad pitchers.

Nice post.

Jpup
05-27-2008, 03:33 AM
Jocketty has been making some serious moves in personnel lately in the minors, moving several forward. He is probably aware of the improvements made by Roenicke.

I really believe that group of players will have that athletic attitude that you can’t beat us type of fire in them once they get over the initiation period of Bruce. I really believe that Dunn, Phillips, Bruce, Votto, Hairston and Freel will push and pull one another to excel and jell as competitive driven force together.

Hairston isn't the answer to any question. As a 5th outfielder and a 25th guy, I could almost make a case, but he's pretty horrible at short.

fearofpopvol1
05-27-2008, 03:54 AM
I don't recall seeing this posted yet...if it has been, sorry.

Bruce getting some love on Baseball Tonight...

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3413488&categoryId=2521705

BuckeyeRedleg
05-27-2008, 09:17 AM
Who backs up Votto if Hatteberg is let go?

Valentin?

WVRed
05-27-2008, 09:48 AM
Who backs up Votto if Hatteberg is let go?

Valentin?

Eureka.

Cyclone792
05-27-2008, 10:05 AM
I'm very curious to hear any news regarding Bruce starting tonight, and I would expect (hope) that somebody will get that info out as early as possible, perhaps even early this afternoon.

A couple buddies and I are getting a small group together to possibly head down to the game, but our decision on whether to actually attend tonight's game likely hinges on if Bruce is starting.

westofyou
05-27-2008, 10:59 AM
I don't recall seeing this posted yet...if it has been, sorry.

Bruce getting some love on Baseball Tonight...

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3413488&categoryId=2521705


The great thing about this for Jay Bruce is with the Reds is there is no pressure to win this year.

-John Kruk

Hmmm.... I bet he didn't ask Wayne his opinion on that statement.

Always Red
05-27-2008, 11:01 AM
I'm very curious to hear any news regarding Bruce starting tonight, and I would expect (hope) that somebody will get that info out as early as possible, perhaps even early this afternoon.

A couple buddies and I are getting a small group together to possibly head down to the game, but our decision on whether to actually attend tonight's game likely hinges on if Bruce is starting.

I wouldn't expect the public relations juggernaut that is the Cincinnati Reds to help you with that decision, Cyc.

They'll probably keep it under wraps until it's time to post lineups, tripping all over themselves again, and doing their best to keep it a secret, not let the word out and not sell tickets.

Either that, or Dusty decides to sit him tonight. You know, let him get acclimated to his new surroundings. After all, Corey can handle CF tonight against the RH. :D

HotCorner
05-27-2008, 11:03 AM
I'm very curious to hear any news regarding Bruce starting tonight, and I would expect (hope) that somebody will get that info out as early as possible, perhaps even early this afternoon.

A couple buddies and I are getting a small group together to possibly head down to the game, but our decision on whether to actually attend tonight's game likely hinges on if Bruce is starting.

If he's not starting, the Reds should keep him in Louisville. It makes no sense to promote him then sit him on the bench. He will be in the starting lineup! What spot in the order he bats well that's an entirely different question. ;)

westofyou
05-27-2008, 11:08 AM
I'm very curious to hear any news regarding Bruce starting tonight, and I would expect (hope) that somebody will get that info out as early as possible, perhaps even early this afternoon.

A couple buddies and I are getting a small group together to possibly head down to the game, but our decision on whether to actually attend tonight's game likely hinges on if Bruce is starting.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/o/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/


General manager Walt Jocketty said all along that they wouldn’t call him up until they decided he would play.

So … let’s see if he is in Tuesday’s lineup. They say his position isn’t center field, but it isn’t likely they’ll bench left fielder Adam Dunn or right fielder Ken Griffey Jr. If he plays — and why else would they call him up — he’ll be in center.

BuckeyeRedleg
05-27-2008, 11:09 AM
If he doesn't start tonight this board may meltdown.

westofyou
05-27-2008, 11:10 AM
They'll probably keep it under wraps until it's time to post lineups, tripping all over themselves again, and doing their best to keep it a secret, not let the word out and not sell tickets.

You'll know by 4:30 pm EST

http://beta.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3a235d6af9-84c1-4d48-9162-1d7675474cca&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com


Bruce and Reds President of Baseball Operations and General Manager Walt Jocketty will be available to the media tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. in the Reds’ dugout at Great American Ball Park.

lollipopcurve
05-27-2008, 11:12 AM
I'm very curious to hear any news regarding Bruce starting tonight,

It's as sure a thing as you can get.

Always Red
05-27-2008, 11:57 AM
It's as sure a thing as you can get.

Probably is. But why keep anyone in suspense about it? This town needs some excitement about the Reds, however contrived it may be (unfortunately, I am thinking about Homer and last years "excitement", and how this is reminding me of that :() .

The Reds should have just announced that he's being called up and he will be in the lineup. That way folks will know and can get their tickets as soon as they wish.

If he doesn't start tonight, not only will this board melt down, but nearly all of Reds Country will, too. Especially since Jock said they're going to bring him up and play him.

sonny
05-27-2008, 12:09 PM
Hatte will be DFA.

The last couple times Votto didn't start, Valentin did. Given his age, low salary, pinch hitting performance and recent attitude. It is my belief that he is gone. I'm sure Jocketty worked the phones to get something for him, but I think we've seen the last of Hatteberg as a Red.

Cedric
05-27-2008, 12:19 PM
Hatte will be DFA.

The last couple times Votto didn't start, Valentin did. Given his age, low salary, pinch hitting performance and recent attitude. It is my belief that he is gone. I'm sure Jocketty worked the phones to get something for him, but I think we've seen the last of Hatteberg as a Red.

Ten days left to move him.

AmarilloRed
05-27-2008, 12:40 PM
I'm very curious to hear any news regarding Bruce starting tonight, and I would expect (hope) that somebody will get that info out as early as possible, perhaps even early this afternoon.

A quote from Baseball Digest Daily:


The Cincinnat Reds have announced that they will promote Jay Bruce tomorrow from Class AAA Louisville. He will wear uniform number 32 and will be making his Major League debut.

http://blog.baseballdigestdaily.com/blog/_archives/2008/5/26/3713215.html

That's a pretty good indication he will be starting tonight.

klw
05-27-2008, 02:01 PM
I wonder how Cueto will do tonight. It will be his first start where he is an afterthought compared to another player. It seems like how he does in each of his starts is the first thing I would look for but it won't be tonight.

OnBaseMachine
05-27-2008, 02:11 PM
BTW major props for Cyclone who called this a couple weeks ago. He identified when the Super-2 safe date was and accurately predicted the date when Jay Bruce would be called up. Nice job man.

flyer85
05-27-2008, 02:15 PM
begs the question of how might this season be different if Corey Patterson never was.

vaticanplum
05-27-2008, 02:24 PM
This is what's written right on the Reds' website:

"Bruce, considered the consensus top prospect in all of professional baseball, will be promoted to the Reds from Triple-A Louisville on Tuesday and make his Major League debut in Cincinnati against the Pirates."

...

"The Reds were off on Monday after returning from a seven-day West Coast road trip. A corresponding roster move to make room for Bruce will be announced before Tuesday's series opener at Great American Ball Park."

Seems pretty clear to me. Honestly I think a start tonight is a given.

KronoRed
05-27-2008, 02:28 PM
begs the question of how might this season be different if Corey Patterson never was.

No much different, I doubt any more wins, but we wouldn't get the "Hey we stink but here is the next big thing!" we'll get from the Reds now ;)

flyer85
05-27-2008, 02:37 PM
No much different, I doubt any more wins,I am guessing Bruce would have been worth ~2 wins to this point.

Always Red
05-27-2008, 04:36 PM
Bruce hitting in the 2nd slot tonight:


Jerry Hairston Jr. ss

Jay Bruce cf

Ken Griffey Jr. rf

Brandon Phillips 2b

Adam Dunn lf

Edwin Encarnacion 3b

Joey Votto 1b

Paul Bako c

John Cueto p

http://beta.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3af6b632a9-6074-4d5c-b5d0-7838008af323&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

Cyclone792
05-27-2008, 04:37 PM
Bruce hitting in the 2nd slot tonight:

http://beta.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3af6b632a9-6074-4d5c-b5d0-7838008af323&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

This makes it official for me then.

In the words of one Jeffrey Lebowski, "I'll be there, man."

Matt700wlw
05-27-2008, 04:37 PM
That is so nice to see!!

OnBaseMachine
05-27-2008, 04:37 PM
Sweet! I like him high in the lineup.

Tommyjohn25
05-27-2008, 04:42 PM
Ah yes...it's gonna be a good day. I picked The Bruce to get a hit/home run in my mlb.com beat the streak game, and my home run beat the streak game.

BuckeyeRedleg
05-27-2008, 04:43 PM
It appears that Jerry Hairston is getting a ton of mileage out of his "hot" start.

The gap between his career OPS (.685) and his hot start (.796) will soon close and hopefully as it closes, Dusty will recognize that and cease to trot his really bad glove out to such a critical defensive position (SS).

RedsManRick
05-27-2008, 04:43 PM
Lineup still isn't ideal, but boy does it look better with Bruce in the 2 spot instead of Patterson.

I was just thinking, sans the speed, Bruce's downside looks an awful lot like Patterson's upside...

Raisor
05-27-2008, 04:47 PM
I like putting new guys in the 2 slot.

Tommyjohn25
05-27-2008, 04:52 PM
Is the 4 o clock presser going to be on reds.com?

CTA513
05-27-2008, 05:13 PM
Bruce hitting in the 2nd slot tonight:



http://beta.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3af6b632a9-6074-4d5c-b5d0-7838008af323&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

Its pooring down rain right now, hopefully it stops so tonights game can be played.

Reds Fanatic
05-27-2008, 05:20 PM
Its pooring down rain right now, hopefully it stops so tonights game can be played.
According to the National Weather Service page there is now a 30% chance of rain for tonight. Earlier today they had the rain ending this afternoon now there is a chance of rain until about 9 PM so they should get it in but there might be a delay.

Chip R
05-27-2008, 05:21 PM
Bruce hitting in the 2nd slot tonight:



http://beta.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3af6b632a9-6074-4d5c-b5d0-7838008af323&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com


CF not hitting leadoff? Me no understand. :confused:

I just checked the Reds site and no presser as of yet.

Spring~Fields
05-27-2008, 05:23 PM
I like putting new guys in the 2 slot.

I kind of like that, is Dunn batting behind him in the 3 spot, that would be grand. Hariston leading off while Janish sits??

reds44
05-27-2008, 05:24 PM
God bless Dusty for not batting Jay leadoff.

Spring~Fields
05-27-2008, 05:29 PM
It appears that Jerry Hairston is getting a ton of mileage out of his "hot" start.

The gap between his career OPS (.685) and his hot start (.796) will soon close and hopefully as it closes, Dusty will recognize that and cease to trot his really bad glove out to such a critical defensive position (SS).

No, do a search look up Chicago, Patterson, Dusty Baker, and you will see this is a rerun back as far as 2004. Baker always wanted Patterson to be that dream leadoff man and when that failed Hairston became the man, the manager is persevering if nothing else. This has all been played out before, with the exception of Jay Bruce.

flyer85
05-27-2008, 05:34 PM
Still an awful lineup, which is nothing unusual.

Always Red
05-27-2008, 05:37 PM
No, do a search look up Chicago, Patterson, Dusty Baker, and you will see this is a rerun back as far as 2004. Baker always wanted Patterson to be that dream leadoff man and when that failed Hairston became the man, the manager is persevering if nothing else. This has all been played out before, with the exception of Jay Bruce.

Someone needs to take away Dusty's flux capacitor before this crazy thing gets out of control.

flyer85
05-27-2008, 05:39 PM
Someone needs to take away Dusty's flux capacitor before this crazy thing gets out of control.only in Dusty's less than lucid moments(which are frequent) has Hairston or Patterson ever been a leadoff hitter.

BuckeyeRedleg
05-27-2008, 05:54 PM
No, do a search look up Chicago, Patterson, Dusty Baker, and you will see this is a rerun back as far as 2004. Baker always wanted Patterson to be that dream leadoff man and when that failed Hairston became the man, the manager is persevering if nothing else. This has all been played out before, with the exception of Jay Bruce.

Yeah, but Dusty wasn't playing Hairston at SS back then.

KronoRed
05-27-2008, 06:03 PM
I find it hard to believe Freel would be any worse at SS then Hairston is, I'd prefer Janish there and batting leadoff over both of them if the CF/SS must bat leadoff rule is in effect.

flyer85
05-27-2008, 06:08 PM
I find it hard to believe Freel would be any worse at SS then Hairston is, I'd prefer Janish there and batting leadoff over both of them if the CF/SS must bat leadoff rule is in effect.The Reds have a pocketful of turds.

flyer85
05-27-2008, 06:12 PM
BTW, the Reds have now moved on to Hairston as the new leadoff hitter, he of the career 320 OBP and 685 OPS.

Things are looking up!! :rolleyes:

reds44
05-27-2008, 06:13 PM
BTW, the Reds have now moved on to Hairston as the new leadoff hitter, he of the career 320 OBP and 685 OPS.

Things are looking up!! :rolleyes:
Hey that is better than Patterson.

No really, it is.

flyer85
05-27-2008, 06:15 PM
Hey that is better than Patterson.

No really, it is. a shiny turd

flyer85
05-27-2008, 06:16 PM
so will Bruce get a platoon job to get Freel some ABs? Hell, maybe he'll sit Dunn. Otherwise Farney might go on a rampage.

reds44
05-27-2008, 06:16 PM
Time for Freel to take ABs from Edwin (again).

flyer85
05-27-2008, 06:19 PM
Time for Freel to take ABs from Edwin (again).they have the same OPS and Freel is really bad against RHP.

The place to get him ABs that make sense is put him in RF for Jr against LHP.

redsrule2500
05-27-2008, 06:21 PM
The lineup won't be fixed until Griffey gets out of the 3 slot.

KronoRed
05-27-2008, 06:24 PM
The lineup won't be fixed until Griffey gets out of the 3 slot.

He'll be out of that spot come October

OldXOhio
05-27-2008, 06:35 PM
The lineup won't be fixed until Griffey gets out of the 3 slot.

But he's being left there out of respect, haven't you heard?

RedsManRick
05-27-2008, 06:37 PM
Bruce spelling Junior in RF against lefties makes sense for a number of reasons -- would be great to see.

And you know, as Junior discussed when he was reluctant to leave CF, it might be easier on him to concede playing time in RF to Bruce than any of the other in house options.

OnBaseMachine
05-27-2008, 07:04 PM
Another J.B. arrival

By Hal McCoy | Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 04:55 PM
Latest comment

The media horde swooped into the Cincinnati Reds clubhouse early Tuesday and catcher David Ross looked over his shoulder and said, “Jay Bruce doesn’t catch, does he?”

No, he doesn’t, but Bruce’s arrival rivals that of another J.B. - Johnny Bench. Bench’s arrival happened with far less folderol, pomp and circumstance.

It was August 29, 1967 against the Philadelphia Phillies. Bench caught that day and was 0 for 3 with two strikeouts. He was 19 years old.

And he never looked back - focusing himself right into the Hall of Fame.

Now we have outfielder Jay Bruce, just turned 21. The clamor for his promotion was as loud as the Liberty Bell before it had a crack.

Asked if he knew about the fans and media demanding his promotion, Bruce smiled and said, “Yeah, I read and saw a few things.”

What should be of major concern to the Cicinnati Reds is that fans consider Bruce the savior, the Messiah, the man to lead the Reds from last place to first place in about a day-and-a-half.

“He is not the savior,” said manager Dusty Baker. “We just want him to be himself. Just let him play and be himself - no labels on him, no comparisons. Let’s just let him play, you know? You can’t help what people put on you and what people say.”

There is not doubt Bruce’s make-up - and it has nothing to do with Revlon or Cover Girl or Mary Kay.

“He is a confident young man and he is a bright young man,” said Baker. “And very competitive.

“I’m going to protect him some, but not a whole bunch. He’s going to play most of the time,” Baker added. “Maybe not against some tough lefty, we’ll see. Right now, it is, ‘Go play.’”

“I’m glad he is here,” said Baker. “He deserves this opportunity because he earned it. That’s what I like. We asked him (in spring training) to go down and play hard and work on his skills and that’s what he did.”

“I hope he is here for a long, long time and I get to see him play and develop and get better and better,” Baker added.

Bruce said all the politically correct stuff about taking until now to get here, but he also said, “I’m an impatient person and I wanted to be here yesterday.”

A lot of people wish he had been here the day before yesterday - or the day before the season opened.

“I just want to get things started,” he said before the game, spotting his name on Tuesday’s lineup card, batting second and playing center field. “It is pretty surreal and it still hasn’t really set in. Getting sent down after spring training, well, worrying about it wasn’t going to help get me here.”

As Bruce said, he took care of business at Louisville and waited. And waited and waited and waited.

“It is what it is,” he said. “They had a plan and you have to respect their decisions. I’m here now, so . . ,” he said. “I got to work on some little things and it helped me. It certainly didn’t hurt me.”

It might have hurt the team, though, with Corey Patterson stumbling along in centerfield - batting .201 with a .243 on-base percentage and perpetrating baserunning gaffes against the laws of nature.

OK, why is Bruce batting second?

“I don’t want to put the pressure on him to lead him off,” said Baker. “The third spot right now belongs to Junior. The fourth spot belongs to Brandon Phillips. The fifth spot belongs to Adam Dunn.

“So you could put him toward the top or put him underneath,” Baker added. “I thought it would be better to put him up top. I know most good hitters bad third in the minors, but Junior has 20 years at third. Just bide you time and everything will work out sooner or later.”

Bruce has doned nothing but bide his time. Now let’s see how things work out.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/o/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/

OnBaseMachine
05-27-2008, 07:07 PM
On Jay Bruce

Posted by JohnFay at 5/27/2008 5:34 PM EDT on Cincinnati.com

Here's a little bit of what was said about Jay Bruce:

CEO Bob Castellini: "He's going to be our superstar for years to come. We've got a lot of good young here and in the minors. It's great to see Jay here."

Dusty Baker: "I'm glad he's here. He deserved this opportunity and he earned it. That's I like. We asked him to go down and play hard, hone skills and that's what he did. . . I hope he's here for a long, long time. I'd like to see him play and develop."

On playing time: "We'll protect him some, but not a whole bunch. What I see and how he's doing right now: Go play."

On savior label: "No, he's not the savior. We just want him to play and be himself. Don't put any labels on him, no comparisons, just left him play. You can't help what people put on you or say. You can't control that. What you control is when you play. He's a confident young man. He's a bring young man. He's a competitive young man."

Why the second spot in the order? "I didn't want to put the pressure on him and lead him off. Right, the third spot belongs to Junior (Griffey). The fourth spot belong to (Brandon) Phillips. The fifth spot belongs to (Adam) Dunn. So do you put on top or underneath? I thought it would be better to put him up top. Most good hitters usually bat third in the minor leagues. People want you to insert them right third. Junior's got 20 years in third. Things will work out later.

GM Walt Jocketty: "It was a timing thing. The club is starting to play better. We wanted to give him a little more time there. We felt he was ready a week or two ago. we decided to wait till we got off the road."

On the savior label: "I hope they let him play and let him ability take are of it. It should."

What impressed him most about Bruce? "I was impressed when I met him in January, just his makeup, the way he approaches the game."

On DFAing Scott Hatteberg: "It was tough. Scott's a class guy. He's obviously contributed a lot over the years. But he wasn't getting enough playing time. Joey Votto's proven he can play first every day. Right now, we felt it was the best move to make. We talk to different clubs trying to find interest. We'll continue to do that."

Why not Corey Patterson? "There are things Patterson can do to contribute to the club -- his defense, his running. Obviously, he's not hitting. He knows it. There are things he has to work on."

http://beta.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3a41c694ab-34e1-4561-b63f-ef4a247b4bb9&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

Matt700wlw
05-27-2008, 07:07 PM
“The third spot right now belongs to Junior. The fourth spot belongs to Brandon Phillips. The fifth spot belongs to Adam Dunn.



No spots should "belong" to anybody if they don't perform there....

Unassisted
05-27-2008, 07:10 PM
As Bruce said, he took care of business at Louisville and waited. And waited and waited and waited.
Oh, give us a break, Hal. He "waited and waited and waited" at Louisville a whole 7 weeks. Some people have waited longer to pass a kidney stone. In some sports, it takes longer to get through an entire post-season than Jay Bruce waited in Louisville for his promotion. Reading this, you'd think the kid was turning into Rip Van Winkle down there. :rolleyes:

OnBaseMachine
05-27-2008, 07:11 PM
Jay Bruce, OF, Triple-A Louisville (Reds)
Well, there’s one common email out of the way. When are the Reds going to call up Jay Bruce? The answer is... today. And it’s been a long time coming, as Bruce was basically wasting time at Triple-A Louisville, batting .364/.393/.630 in 49 games and a ridiculous .419/.453/.709 mark in May. The Reds didn’t want to bring Bruce up until they could get him consistent at-bats, and that’s not going to happen as Bruce takes over as the primary center fielder. There’s really nothing new to tell anybody here--Bruce is a stud, and pretty much anyone who follows baseball knows it. But now it’s easier to watch him every day, and he definitely has the potential to be one of those players where one stops everything they're doing, just to see him hit.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7579

Spring~Fields
05-27-2008, 07:22 PM
“He is not the savior,” said manager Dusty Baker. “We just want him to be himself. Just let him play and be himself - no labels on him, no comparisons. Let’s just let him play, you know? You can’t help what people put on you and what people say.”

“He is a confident young man and he is a bright young man,” said Baker. “And very competitive.

“I’m going to protect him some, but not a whole bunch. He’s going to play most of the time,” Baker added. “Maybe not against some tough lefty, we’ll see. Right now, it is, ‘Go play.’”

“I’m glad he is here,” said Baker. “He deserves this opportunity because he earned it. That’s what I like. We asked him (in spring training) to go down and play hard and work on his skills and that’s what he did.”

“I hope he is here for a long, long time and I get to see him play and develop and get better and better,” Baker added.


:clap::clap::clap:

OnBaseMachine
05-27-2008, 07:46 PM
They just showed some video of Jay just now on Reds Live of talking to what looked like an usher, and then he was shaking the hands of fans and signing autographs. They also showed some clips of his interviews earlier today and he really come off as a well spoken kid.

Raisor
05-27-2008, 08:08 PM
Why the second spot in the order? "I didn't want to put the pressure on him and lead him off. Right, the third spot belongs to Junior (Griffey). The fourth spot belong to (Brandon) Phillips. The fifth spot belongs to (Adam) Dunn. So do you put on top or underneath? I thought it would be better to put him up top. Most good hitters usually bat third in the minor leagues. People want you to insert them right third. Junior's got 20 years in third. Things will work out later.



Dusty Baker, Super Genius, makes my head hurt.

That is all.

Marc D
05-27-2008, 08:33 PM
Well it was all much ado about nothing. 1st AB takes a walk.....turns out the kids a base clogger. :(

Nice knowing you Boss.

Chip R
05-27-2008, 08:34 PM
Well it was all much ado about nothing. 1st AB takes a walk.....turns out the kids a base clogger. :(

Nice knowing you Boss.


There's a game thread to post that info on.

KronoRed
05-27-2008, 09:25 PM
Dusty Baker, Super Genius, makes my head hurt.

That is all.

Ridiculous logic from the king.

membengal
05-27-2008, 11:10 PM
He's, um, pretty good. And stuff.

wheels
05-27-2008, 11:27 PM
He's, um, pretty good. And stuff.

He is no Bravo Sierra, if you can dig it.

medford
05-27-2008, 11:30 PM
So this Bruce kid is pretty good. For those on the minor league board, there has been some arguement going back and forth about The Boss's ability to take a walk. Doug Dirt always argued that Bruce had a good eye, he just put everything into play and wasn't presentd the opportunity to walk too much.

After 1 game, it seems that Doug was spot on. Jay seems to go w/ the pitch and has a good idea of where the pitcher is going to take him. Didn't see him swing at too many bad pitches (or any???) Solid, solid single to left vs Marte and he drilled that ball for a double. Impressive debut indeed.

sonny
05-27-2008, 11:30 PM
I'm enjoying this Jay Bruce fella.

SMcGavin
05-27-2008, 11:49 PM
Baseball Tonight just said they are going to try and get Bruce on before the end of the show. I thought there might be a few people here interested in that...

reds44
05-27-2008, 11:57 PM
He is not bad.

fearofpopvol1
05-28-2008, 12:04 AM
What a great debut...2 singles, 1 2B and 2 walks.

What's the most impressive debut ever by a Reds position player in the majors? Anyone know?

The Baumer
05-28-2008, 12:07 AM
Great post-game fact: Bruce was scheduled to do a phone interview for Baseball Tonight immediately after the game but he had to cancel due to complications stemming from "a pie in the face".

OnBaseMachine
05-28-2008, 12:21 AM
Unbelievable debut. Just downright amazing. I thought that double was a homerun off the bat but it never had the height. It's amazing how the ball just jumps off his bat.

OnBaseMachine
05-28-2008, 02:20 AM
Bruce shines in Major League spotlight
Rookie goes 3-for-3 with two RBIs and two runs in debut
By Mark Sheldon / MLB.com

CINCINNATI -- A victim of veteran pranks already, new Reds center fielder Jay Bruce proudly wore the spoils of his spectacular Major League debut.

Bruce got two shaving cream pies to his face and a bucket of ice water splashed at him on the heels of Tuesday's 9-6 Reds win over the Pirates at Great American Ball Park.

Welcome to the big leagues, rook. That's the reward when you go 3-for-3 with two RBIs and two runs scored while reaching base in all five plate appearances.

"That's probably as good of a debut I've ever seen," said Reds manager Dusty Baker, a veteran of 40 big league seasons said. "He made his debut well documented and something he'll never forget. You see what's there. You see why he's so highly touted. He picked up here where he left off in Triple-A."

To chants of "Bruuuuuce" in his debut plate appearance from 17,964 fans, the 21-year-old Bruce drew a first-inning walk. His first hit came in the third inning when he lined a single to left field off of Pirates starter Ian Snell.

Perhaps Bruce didn't need the postgame ice water soaking. Baseball's top prospect already had the stuff coursing through his veins.

"I was a lot more calm than I thought I was going to be," said Bruce, who was batting .364 with a nine-game hitting streak when he was promoted from Triple-A Louisville. "It was fun getting warmed up and everything. It almost felt like another baseball game. I think the most important thing for a debut is getting a win and that was awesome. Hopefully, there's a lot more coming."

Snell (2-4) gave up six hits and seven walks in his five innings, but the Reds and Johnny Cueto were trailing by a 3-0 score after the top of the fifth inning. In the bottom half, Snell issued three straight one-out walks -- including one to Bruce -- before Brandon Phillips hit a sacrifice fly to center field. Then came the crushing blow.

Next up was Adam Dunn, who lifted a 1-0 offering into the next-to-last row of seats in right field for a 4-3 lead. The 454-foot shot was Dunn's team-leading 15th homer of the season, his third in four games and eighth in 12 games. The 252nd homer of his career also moved him past Ted Kluszewski for fourth on the club's all-time list. Dunn also had an RBI single in the sixth for a four-RBI night.

Cincinnati added another four-spot in that sixth, including a bases-loaded single by Bruce off of lefty Damaso Marte, for his first RBI. The lefty hitter sent the knock into left field, which impressed his manager.

"That's a positive sign, the fact he's using the whole field," Baker said. "A lot of guys come up and they're trying to pull and hit a home run. He's staying within himself and did what he does best."

In the seventh, Bruce sharply lined a two-out double to the right-field wall for his third hit. The last Reds player with three hits in his debut was Willie Greene on Sept. 1, 1992.

"I don't think you can write it any better than this," said Bruce, the Reds' first-round Draft pick in 2005.

The big nights by Bruce and Dunn covered up a lackluster night for the pitching staff. Cueto (3-4) gave up three runs, two earned, and nine hits over five innings while throwing 119 pitches. The 22-year-old right-hander, who walked three and struck out four, hasn't made it beyond the fifth three times over his last four starts.

"He threw a lot of pitches in a short period of time again, but he battled," Baker said. "He was in trouble almost every inning, but he held them to three to give us a chance to win the ballgame."

The Reds missed a chance to coast to a six-run victory when reliever Jeremy Affeldt gave up two homers for three runs in the ninth. Closer Francisco Cordero had to be used to get the final out for his 11th save.

A win made it possible for the shaving cream pies to fly, which happened as Bruce was being interviewed on the field during the postgame broadcast.

"I didn't do it," said right fielder Ken Griffey Jr., who knew the culprits. "I can be bribed."

"What can he be bribed with?" Bruce retorted about his well compensated teammate and boyhood idol. Touche.

It turned out that David Ross supplied the shaving cream while Aaron Harang provided the water.

Now Bruce can come back to the ballpark and do it all again on Wednesday.

"Jay, you can get here at 4 o'clock tomorrow, not 12," Griffey said as he walked out of the clubhouse.

Other than that, just another typical day in baseball, right?

"It's so much the same as the Minor Leagues, as far as the game," Bruce said. "It's just got a lot more fans, bigger stands, and better uniforms and stuff. And you're playing with freaking legends and superstars."

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20080527&content_id=2780576&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

OnBaseMachine
05-28-2008, 02:33 AM
Already, Reds fans are chanting 'Bruuuuuuce'
Listen to this article or download audio file.Click-2-Listen

By Hal McCoy

Staff Writer

Wednesday, May 28, 2008

CINCINNATI — He looks like the kid down the street, the one with the impish grin and the slingshot tucked into his back pocket, just searching for mischief.

Jay Bruce turned 21 little more than a month ago, barely legal to drink a Bud Light. And yet some fans consider this 6-foot-3, 205-pound bundle of baseball talent a human crane who will hoist the Cincinnati Reds upon his broad shoulders and carry them to heavenly days and heavenly nights.

And he teased and tantalized Tuesday in his major-league debut with three hits and two walks, turning on the fans even more than they were turned on by his mere presence.

On his fifth plate appearance, Bruce scorched a laser that nearly took off the right fielder's head before thunking against the wall for a double.

There is no big red 'S' on his jersey, just a wishbone 'C' like everybody else. He doesn't wear a cape, just batting gloves like everybody else.

Advice to everybody: Leave him alone, let him play, place no anvils on his back.

For this one night, though, can you say The Natural? Can you say Phee-nom?

Manager Dusty Baker has seen a slew of major-league debuts, but calls Bruce's, "As good as I've ever seen. He looked right at home and he has been looking forward to this for a long time. He made his debut well-documented. You see why he is so highly touted and picked up here where he left off in Triple-A."

While some consider him the savior, the Midwest Messiah, Baker considers him another piece in an evolving puzzle of a young baseball team, albeit an extremely talented piece.

"He is not the savior," said Baker. "We just want him to be himself. Just let him play and be himself — no labels on him, no comparisons. Let's just let him play, you know?"

There is no doubt about Bruce's make-up — and it has nothing to do with Revlon or Cover Girl or Mary Kay.

"He is a confident young man and he is a bright young man," said Baker. "And very competitive. I'm going to protect him some, but not a whole bunch. He's going to play most of the time. Maybe not against some tough lefty, we'll see. Right now, it is, 'Go play.' "

When Bruce stepped into the batter's box in the first inning, the miniscule crowd gave him a standing ovation and chanted, "Bruuuuuuce, Bruuuuuuce." Then he walked on four pitches and was on the back end of a double steal but was stranded at second base when Ken Griffey Jr., Adam Dunn and Edwin Encarnacion struck out.

So the legend begins, a young kid thinking about replacing a legend in Griffey.

"That was one of my goals as a kid," he said. "I wanted to play with Griffey and it has come true," even if his first glimpse was while he stood on second base and Griffey whiffed.

A star in the making, a star is born or is he already a star that had to shine over Louisville before he could shine over Cincinnati?

Said Baker, "I'm glad he is here. He deserves this opportunity because he earned it. That's what I like. We asked him (in spring training) to go down and play hard and work on his skills, and that's what he did. I hope he is here for a long, long time and I get to see him play and develop and get better and better."

Bruce wore a face full of shaving cream pie after the game and said, "You couldn't write it any better. Savior? Everybody knows there is not one player who can make a team a winner. It is a collective effort.

"We have the right people and I'm excited to be part of it," he said. "I had a blast and I hope there is more to come. It's all pretty surreal."

Somebody asked Bruce who pie-faced him and he looked at Griffey, who said, "I didn't do it, but I know and I can be bribed."

"What can he be bribed with?" asked Bruce.

Jay Bruce By The Numbers

21, 54 — Age, in years and days, on his major-league debut Tuesday

.364 — Batting average in 49 games for Class AAA Louisville this season

1.000 —ÊBatting average after his debut game with the Reds. He was 3-for-3 with two walks, two singles, a double, two RBIs, two runs scored and a stolen base.

30 — Scouts who attended each of his games as a high school senior

http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/sports/pro/reds/2008/05/28/ddn052808spmccoy.html

Tom Servo
05-28-2008, 10:27 AM
awesome Jay Bruce Dugout:

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/05/28/the-dugout-babe-bruce/

"BakersDozen: /signals for next three batters to strike out" had me on the floor.

Degenerate39
05-28-2008, 11:39 AM
Bruce's premier premiere
BY BILL KOCH

If Reds outfielder Jay Bruce had followed his original plan, he would have been down in New Orleans on Tuesday night, finishing his junior year at Tulane University and getting ready to play in the NCAA Tournament.

Instead, 21/2 hours before making his major league debut at Great American Ball Park, Bruce stood before a swarm of reporters, stared into the bright lights of the TV cameras and talked about how thrilled he was to be in the major leagues.

"I'm pretty confident," Bruce said. "I think you have to be confident in order to be successful. I'm just going to take a positive attitude toward it and see what happens."



Bruce, 21, hasn't always been that confident. As the baseball draft approached near the end of his senior year at West Brook High School in Beaumont, Texas, he was convinced that he would be drafted no higher than the third round.

His mother, Martha, thought otherwise.

"He said, 'Mom, you don't know what you're talking about,' " Martha Bruce said.

In this case, mother knew best.

"Our plan was for Jay to go to Tulane," Martha Bruce said. "But we said if he gets drafted and the money is good enough that we have to back up a truck to unload it, we're going the other way."

Bruce was selected by the Reds in the first round as the 12th overall pick in the June 2005 draft. And yes, the truckload of money materialized in the form of a $1.8 million signing bonus.

"He graduated at the end of May," Martha Bruce said. "On June 16, we were putting him on a plane to go to Florida. We didn't have time to cut the string. It was really a hard thing for his dad and me both."

Martha Bruce, a teacher, and her husband, Joe, a master plumber, were on hand Tuesday night to watch Jay play his first game for the Reds, along with his sisters, Amy, 30, and Kellan, 26. It was the culmination of a long road that began when Bruce first played Tee Ball at the age of 3.

When he was 13, Bruce joined a select Little League team in Houston - a 90-minute drive from Beaumont - to play for former major league pitcher Doug Drabek.

As a sophomore in high school, playing on the West Brook varsity, he hit a home run that made his coach's jaw drop.

"The field was 310 feet down the right-field line," said Jacob Walton, the West Brook head coach who was an assistant when Bruce played there. "They had another field facing us. There were about 50 feet from that fence to the next fence. He hit the ball way to the first-base dugout. It was 500 feet easily.

"I was like, 'Oh, my God.' It was the farthest home run I think I've ever seen him hit. That clicked right there that we had something special, that we needed to get him going, get him trained the right way."

Bruce also pitched in high school, first as a starter and then as a closer his senior year. Walton said Bruce threw 94 mph, but his fastball paled in comparison with his hitting ability.

"He's got so much power," Walton said. "On the high school level, a lot of kids have power, but it's pull power. He had opposite-field power. That's very rare in high school. When you see that, you know something special is coming."

By Bruce's senior year, Walton said, professional scouts were flocking to Beaumont - 10 to 15 just to watch practice, 30 for games. Bruce hit .538 that spring with 12 home runs, 31 RBI and 13 stolen bases.

He was drafted by the Reds shortly thereafter, the truckload of money to follow.

"He was so excited," Martha Bruce said of her son. "I'm sure he was just in shock because we lived paycheck-to-paycheck. Sometimes we didn't have enough, but Jay had more than any of my other two children because he was the baby. He didn't feel the crunch of our lack of money. We would always find money to get him where he needed to go."

Bruce used some of his new-found wealth to pay off his parents' house and to help his sister, Amy, buy a house. Only then did he purchase his first car, a Denali SUV.

"He did everything for everybody else before he did anything for himself," his mother said.

Bruce entered professional baseball having been brought up to do his talking on the field. As a kid, riding home from a pizza party after a game, some of Bruce's teammates were bragging about their exploits on the field.

Martha Bruce, who was driving the car, later told Jay that she never wanted to hear such boasting from her son.

Bruce also gained perspective from his relationship with his sister Kellan, who has a mild mental handicap.

"I think as Jay got older, he realized after he went off and started playing the game on his own how lucky he was to have the opportunity he has," Martha Bruce said, "to realize what little-bitty things in life matter."

That perspective on life stands out to those who know Bruce well.

"He spends at least a week or two every offseason staying at my house," said Matt Sosnick, Bruce's agent. "He's just an incredibly warm, wonderful guy. He's the kind of guy you want to marry your sister.

"He's totally level-headed but he believes that unless he gets injured there's no chance that he's not going to make it and be a superstar. He's able to balance that strong belief in himself with an understanding that stuff changes very quickly."

It appeared after he was named Minor League Player of the Year last year by Baseball America and The Sporting News that Bruce was on his way to the big leagues. But he was bothered by a left quadriceps strain and hit only .262 in spring training.

He was sent back to Triple-A Louisville on March 20, 17 days after the Reds signed Corey Patterson to play center field.

"He felt like it was out of his control," Sosnick said. "At that point, he was going to focus on the things in his control. I think he realized hat Dusty Baker had a relationship with (Patterson) and had prior faith in him. For the time being, that was going to trump his being up there immediately."

Bruce was disappointed, but he committed himself to not letting the Reds' decision affect his play. He went to Louisville and hit .364 in 49 games, with 10 home runs and 37 RBI.

"No matter where I was, I had to play hard, I had to play my game," Bruce said. "Worrying about getting sent down wasn't going to help me any. It wasn't going to help me get back here. I just went down, played hard and took care of my business and just waited."

When Reds general manager Walt Jocketty saw Bruce rap out two hits with a home run in Louisville a week ago Sunday, he knew the Reds' prized recruit was ready.

"I liked his whole makeup, the way he approached the game," Jocketty said. "He's a very impressive young man. He's very talented. He's one of the most talented guys I've ever seen."

Now Bruce's time has arrived. Reds manager Dusty Baker promptly inserted him in the No. 2 spot in the batting order Tuesday and put him in center field.

"I'm glad he's here," Baker said. "He deserved this opportunity. He earned it. That's what I like. We asked him to go down and play hard and hone his skills, and that's what he did. I hope he's here for a long, long time. I want to see him play and develop and get better and better."

Of course, there have been plenty of can't-miss prospects who didn't make it when they reached the major leagues. Brandon Larson comes to mind in recent Reds history.

Certainly, Bruce is not a lock to become a star. But no one disputes his talent or his maturity at such a tender age.

"I feel like he was gifted," Martha Bruce said. "We taught him that God gave him that gift and now it's your obligation to put it into use."

Reds Fanatic
05-28-2008, 12:14 PM
This is from John Fay. Bruce is a hit in television ratings as last night was the highest of the year by far.


From the FSN Ohio:

Last night's Reds/Pirates game on FSN Ohio did its highest rating of the season (9.7). That even tops the Opening Day rating of 8.7. Overall, our ratings are up 10% from the 2007 season.

I'll be curious to see what the crowd is tonight. Last night's forecast wasn't the best. Tonight's is better.

OnBaseMachine
05-28-2008, 01:27 PM
Good blog article, with pics and a video clip from a guy who had lower level seats on the 1B side.

http://www.diamondhoggers.com/2008/05/jay-bruces-big-league-debut-deal-has.html

Good stuff there, including a picture of Jay's cute girlfriend. :)

flyer85
05-28-2008, 01:29 PM
they need to sign him to a Longoria type deal ... right now.

flyer85
05-28-2008, 01:33 PM
I thought Bruce was "The Next Big Thing", not "The Deal".

Unassisted
05-28-2008, 01:33 PM
they need to sign him to a Longoria type deal ... right now.Shouldn't they at least wait to see what happens once pitchers around the league have a book on him? The ground around Cincinnati is littered with Reds DFAs from players who were locked up too long. Just imagine if the Reds were still paying Brandon Larson.

vaticanplum
05-28-2008, 01:34 PM
awesome Jay Bruce Dugout:

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/05/28/the-dugout-babe-bruce/

"BakersDozen: /signals for next three batters to strike out" had me on the floor.

Tremendous.

flyer85
05-28-2008, 01:36 PM
Shouldn't they at least wait to see what happens once pitchers around the league have a book on him? The ground around Cincinnati is littered with Reds DFAs from players who were locked up too long. Just imagine if the Reds were still paying Brandon Larson.The Rays signed Longoria within the first week or so ... I would offer him that type of deal right now.

KronoRed
05-28-2008, 01:37 PM
they need to sign him to a Longoria type deal ... right now.

Some down in the sun deck suggest an 8 year deal.

Chip R
05-28-2008, 01:40 PM
awesome Jay Bruce Dugout:

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/05/28/the-dugout-babe-bruce/

"BakersDozen: /signals for next three batters to strike out" had me on the floor.


On the national Fox show last night the gal who was doing the show sounded like she was saying Babe Ruth or Babe Bruce a couple of times when they were showing highlights of the game. Of course it was after midnight so take that FWIW.

OnBaseMachine
05-28-2008, 03:42 PM
Prospectus: Last night's game at the Great American Ballpark was memorable because the Reds' 9-6 win over Pittsburgh featured the debut of Jay Bruce, the Baseball Prospectus 2008 No. 1 prospect. Bruce started in center field and had a spectacular first game at the plate, going 3-for-3 with two walks, two runs, and two RBI. Bruce became just the fourth batter since 1956 to reach base safely in all five of his plate appearances in his major league debut. The others were Kazuo Matsui with the Mets in 2004, Ted Cox with the Red Sox in 1977, and John Paciorek with the Colt .45's in 1963.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7580

Reds Fanatic
05-28-2008, 05:34 PM
Bruce is batting 2nd again tonight. In fact exact same lineup as last night except for Ross catching.

To go with OBM's post above here are the most times a batter has reached time consecutively to start a career from John Fay's blog:


HOT STARTS: Here's a look at where Jay Bruce rates as far as getting on base to start his career:

Listed are the top marks for consecutive times reaching base safely to begin a career, since 1956 (courtesy SABR & Elias Sports Bureau):

7 - Ted Cox, Red Sox, 1977 (6-for-6, 1BB)

5 - John Paciorek, Astros, 1963 (3-for-3, 2BB)

5 - Dave Robinson, Padres, 1970 (2-for-2, 3BB)

5 - Bob Dernier, Phillies, 1980 (4-for-4, 1BB)

5 - Tom Dunbar, Rangers, 1983 (2-for-2, 3BB)

5 - Jose Hernandez, Rangers, 1991 (4-for-4, 1BB)

5 - Mike Piazza, Dodgers, 1992 (4-for-4, 1BB)

5 - Ramon Martinez, Giants, 1998 (3-for-3, 2BB)

5 - Kazuo Matsui, Mets, 2004 (3-for-3, 2BB)


2008

5 (active) - Jay Bruce, Reds, 5/27 vs Pit (3-for-3, 2BB)

5 - Kosuke Fukudome, Cubs, 3/31-4/2 vs Mil (3-for-3, 2BB)

5 - Brandon Boggs, Rangers, 4/29/4/30 vs KC (4-for-4, 1BB)

Stormy
05-29-2008, 01:47 AM
Two of his three good starts came against garbage offenses.

How about tonight's performance against one of the top 4 run scoring offenses in the NL? Do we get to count that in Arroyo's ledger? 32.1IP 28 Hits 32K 13BB 1.75 ERA in his past 5 starts. Hardly washed up.

WVRedsFan
05-29-2008, 01:57 AM
How about tonight's performance against one of the top 4 run scoring offenses in the NL? Do we get to count that in Arroyo's ledger? 32.1IP 28 Hits 32K 13BB 1.75 ERA in his past 5 starts. Hardly washed up.

And it went down in GABP, which is not known as a pitcher's park. The Bucs have been scoring runs in bunches (witness out last three-game series with them) and Bronson three-hits them in 6 innings. Nothing to sneeze about.

Of all the pitchers that have passed through Cincinnati in the last 2+ years, Arroyo can hardly be considered fodder. Given the territory, that's saying something.

fearofpopvol1
05-29-2008, 03:06 AM
Prospectus: Last night's game at the Great American Ballpark was memorable because the Reds' 9-6 win over Pittsburgh featured the debut of Jay Bruce, the Baseball Prospectus 2008 No. 1 prospect. Bruce started in center field and had a spectacular first game at the plate, going 3-for-3 with two walks, two runs, and two RBI. Bruce became just the fourth batter since 1956 to reach base safely in all five of his plate appearances in his major league debut. The others were Kazuo Matsui with the Mets in 2004, Ted Cox with the Red Sox in 1977, and John Paciorek with the Colt .45's in 1963.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7580

Also, since 1950, Bruce was only the 2nd player in team history to go 3-3 in his major league debut. Willie Greene was the other.

OnBaseMachine
05-29-2008, 04:43 PM
Is there any way we can get this thread archived to give us something to look back on in a few years?

Matt700wlw
05-29-2008, 04:44 PM
I think he needs to go back....I mean, he ONLY went 1 for 3 last night, making 2 outs!!!!

WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Reds have enough humans on this team!!

Degenerate39
05-29-2008, 07:33 PM
1. Ryan Freel cf
2. Jerry Hairston Jr. ss
3. Jay Bruce rf
4. Brandon Phillips 2b
5. Adam Dunn lf
6. Andy Phillips 3b
7. Joey Votto 1b
8. David Ross c

Bruce batting third. Does that mean Bruce has batted 3rd more times than Adam Dunn this year?

oregonred
05-30-2008, 11:27 PM
Kid ain't too bad... :beerme:

Spring~Fields
05-31-2008, 09:35 PM
Jay Bruce extended his amazing weeklong debut with a 10th-inning homer that lifted the Cincinnati Reds to an 8-7 victory over the Atlanta Braves.

Bruce’s first big league homer off Manny Acosta (3-2) dealt another crushing road defeat to the Braves, who couldn’t hold a one-run lead heading into the ninth.

Griffey was on deck when Bruce connected for the game-winning solo shot. The 21-year-old rookie rounded the bases, flipped his helmet into the air halfway to home, then got pummeled by teammates when he hopped on the plate.

The Reds’ top prospect is 11-for-19 in his first five games in the majors, providing one big hit after another. He has a pair of three-hit games and a four-hit game.

The only thing he hadn’t done in his amazing week was connect for a homer. He pulled it off on a 2-1 pitch from Acosta, sending it deep into the seats in right field.

While the Reds flooded onto the field and 38,585 fans chanted “BRUUUUCE!” in unison, the Braves dropped their heads and trudged away in disbelief.

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080601/capt.955c7f0640c64819a0e1c94a3fc194d9.braves_reds_ baseball_csb112.jpg?x=180&y=200&xc=64&yc=1&wc=284&hc=315&q=70&sig=RFDju6I2oNAZQVsw.UiObQ--


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap;_ylt=A0wNdcpq7EFI7fgAXAIRvLYF?gid=280531117&prov=ap

KittyDuran
05-31-2008, 11:31 PM
They (the Reds PR dept) are already touting him and Votto. Coming down to the game on I-71 South today - I saw their face shots (the ones used at the game) with shades and leis (this weekend was IIRC "Welcome to Summer" at GABP) on one of the digital billboards.

fearofpopvol1
05-31-2008, 11:40 PM
On Baseball Tonight, they did a simulated redraft of the 2005 draft with the 1st 3 picks...and they selected (in order)...

1.) Jacoby Ellsbury
2.) Justin Upton
3.) Ryan Braun

Obviously, Bruce was a choice and was not taken. I know Zimmerman was available as was Tulowitszki. There was another name or 2, but I can't recall.

guttle11
05-31-2008, 11:44 PM
On Baseball Tonight, they did a simulated redraft of the 2005 draft with the 1st 3 picks...and they selected (in order)...

1.) Jacoby Ellsbury
2.) Justin Upton
3.) Ryan Braun

Obviously, Bruce was a choice and was not taken. I know Zimmerman was available as was Tulowitszki. There was another name or 2, but I can't recall.

The man-love of Ellsbury is amazing. Don't get me wrong, he's a fine player, but give me all of those guys but Zimmerman over him in a second. I'd probably take Zimmerman, too, but I might think about it a bit.

OnBaseMachine
05-31-2008, 11:44 PM
Jacoby Ellsbury #1 made me laugh. He's a fine player and all but he doesn't project as a superstar like Bruce, Upton, or Braun.

HumnHilghtFreel
05-31-2008, 11:45 PM
On Baseball Tonight, they did a simulated redraft of the 2005 draft with the 1st 3 picks...and they selected (in order)...

1.) Jacoby Ellsbury
2.) Justin Upton
3.) Ryan Braun

Obviously, Bruce was a choice and was not taken. I know Zimmerman was available as was Tulowitszki. There was another name or 2, but I can't recall.

They also said that Ryan Freel was a great baserunner, so I'd take their opinions with a grain of salt anyway;)

Awesome week for Bruce though. Baseball shouldn't be as easy as he's made it look to be.

reds44
05-31-2008, 11:48 PM
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to scratch my head that Ellsbury was #1 on that list.

fearofpopvol1
05-31-2008, 11:52 PM
Yeah, I think you could make very solid cases for Braun or Zimmerman, but Ellsbury as #1?? I don't get that.

blumj
06-01-2008, 01:05 AM
Some people just completely lose their heads over players who can run really, really fast.

fearofpopvol1
06-02-2008, 05:57 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=frontpage&pollId=55889