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Big Klu
06-05-2008, 07:05 AM
50 years ago (1958), an 8-4 win at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.

Cincinnati
Johnny Temple 2b
Frank Robinson lf
Jerry Lynch rf
George Crowe 1b
Don Hoak 3b
Ed Bailey c
Gus Bell cf
Roy McMillan ss
Bob Purkey p

Los Angeles
Junior Gilliam lf
Johnny Roseboro c
Duke Snider cf
Carl Furillo rf
Gil Hodges 1b
Dick Gray 3b
Charlie Neal 2b
Don Zimmer ss
Carl Erskine p


WP: Bob Purkey (7-1)
LP: Carl Erskine (3-3)
HR: CIN - Bob Purkey (1), Don Hoak (3). LA - Gil Hodges (8).

Bob Purkey pitched a complete-game eight-hitter and also hit a solo home run.

Big Klu
06-05-2008, 07:05 AM
45 years ago (1963), the Reds were swept in a doubleheader at Forbes Field in Pittsburgh--losing the opener 5-4, and the nightcap 4-3.

First Game
Cincinnati
Pete Rose 2b
Bob Skinner lf
Vada Pinson cf
Frank Robinson rf
Gordy Coleman 1b
Daryl Spencer 3b
Johnny Edwards c
Leo Cardenas ss
Joe Nuxhall p

Pittsburgh
Dick Schofield ss
Ted Savage lf
Roberto Clemente rf
Bill Mazeroski 2b
Donn Clendenon 1b
Bob Bailey 3b
Jim Pagliaroni c
Bill Virdon cf
Don Cardwell p


WP: Bob Veale (1-0)
LP: John Tsitouris (0-1)
Sv: Harvey Haddix (1)
HR: PIT - Bill Mazeroski (4), Jim Pagliaroni (4).

In Game 1, Joe Nuxhall left the game with a leg injury with one out and runners on first and second in the first inning.



Second Game
Cincinnati
Don Blasingame 2b
Bob Skinner lf
Vada Pinson cf
Frank Robinson rf
Gordy Coleman 1b
Daryl Spencer 3b
Johnny Edwards c
Leo Cardenas ss
Bob Purkey p

Pittsburgh
Dick Schofield ss
Bill Virdon cf
Roberto Clemente rf
Bill Mazeroski 2b
Jerry Lynch lf
Smoky Burgess c
Don Clendenon 1b
Bob Bailey 3b
Bob Friend p


WP: Bob Friend (7-4)
LP: Bob Purkey (1-3)
Sv: Bob Veale (3)
HR: CIN - Frank Robinson 2 (9). PIT - Bill Virdon (2).

Big Klu
06-05-2008, 07:06 AM
40 years ago (1968), a 10-0 win at Crosley Field vs. the Braves.

Atlanta
Felipe Alou cf
Sonny Jackson ss
Tito Francona lf
Joe Torre 1b
Felix Millan 2b
Clete Boyer 3b
Mike Lum rf
Bob Tillman c
Phil Niekro p

Cincinnati
Pete Rose rf
Tommy Helms 2b
Vada Pinson cf
Alex Johnson lf
Lee May 1b
Tony Perez 3b
Johnny Bench c
Leo Cardenas ss
Gary Nolan p


WP: Gary Nolan (2-0)
LP: Phil Niekro (5-4)
HR: CIN - Lee May (5), Tony Perez (6).

Gary Nolan pitched a three-hit shutout with 6 K's to get the win for the Reds. The only hits for the Braves were a one-out single by Bob Tillman in the third inning, a two-out single by Felipe Alou in the sixth, and a one-out double by Joe Torre in the seventh.

Big Klu
06-05-2008, 07:07 AM
35 years ago (1973), a 6-5 10-inning win at Riverfront Stadium vs. the Mets.

New York Mets
Wayne Garrett 3b
Felix Millan 2b
Willie Mays cf
Rusty Staub rf
Jim Fregosi lf
John Milner 1b
Duffy Dyer c
Ted Martinez ss
Jerry Koosman p

Cincinnati
Pete Rose lf
Joe Morgan 2b
Johny Bench rf
Tony Perez 1b
Dave Concepcion ss
Bobby Tolan cf
Denis Menke 3b
Bill Plummer c
Ross Grimsley p


WP: Don Gullett (6-3)
LP: Phil Hennigan (0-3)
HR: CIN - Johnny Bench (12).

With the scored tied 2-2 after nine innings, the Mets scored three runs in the top of the tenth on a two-out three-run triple by Duffy Dyer off Don Gullett. In the bottom of the tenth, pinch-hitter Richie Scheinblum led off with a walk, advanced to third on a single by Pete Rose, and scored on a wild pitch by Tug McGraw. Joe Morgan then walked, prompting a Mets pitching change. Johnny Bench immediately greeted new Mets reliever Phil Hennigan with a game-winning three-run homer, giving the Reds the victory.

Big Klu
06-05-2008, 07:07 AM
30 years ago (1978), a 2-1 win at Busch Stadium in St. Louis.

Cincinnati
Pete Rose 3b
Ken Griffey rf
Joe Morgan 2b
George Foster lf
Dan Driessen 1b
Dave Concepcion ss
Mike Lum cf
Don Werner c
Tom Seaver p

St. Louis
Lou Brock lf
Garry Templeton ss
George Hendrick cf
Ted Simmons c
Keith Hernandez 1b
Jerry Morales rf
Ken Reitz 3b
Mike Phillips 2b
Bob Forsch p


WP: Tom Seaver (6-4)
LP: Bob Forsch (7-4)
HR: None.

Tom Seaver pitched a complete-game six-hitter with 8 K's to get the win.

Big Klu
06-05-2008, 07:07 AM
25 years ago (1983), a 6-3 loss at Riverfront vs. the Astros.

Houston
Omar Moreno cf
Terry Puhl rf
Dickie Thon ss
Phil Garner 3b
Jose Cruz lf
Ray Knight 1b
Alan Ashby c
Bill Doran 2b
Mike LaCoss p

Cincinnati
Duane Walker lf
Paul Householder cf
Dave Concepcion ss
Dan Driessen 1b
Cesar Cedeño rf
Wayne Krenchicki 3b
Alan Knicely c
Tom Foley 2b
Charlie Puleo p


WP: Vern Ruhle (1-1)
LP: Bill Scherrer (1-3)
Sv: Bill Dawley (4)
HR: CIN - Dan Driessen (5).

Talk about a Sunday Special! Manager Russ Nixon gave a day off to 2B Ron Oester, 3B Johnny Bench, LF Gary Redus, CF Eddie Milner, and C Dann Bilardello.

Big Klu
06-05-2008, 07:08 AM
20 years ago (1988), a 5-4 loss at Dodger Stadium in the City Of Angels.

Cincinnati
Barry Larkin ss
Chris Sabo 3b
Kal Daniels lf
Eric Davis cf
Paul O'Neill rf
Nick Esasky 1b
Bo Diaz c
Jeff Treadway 2b
Mario Soto p

Los Angeles
Steve Sax 2b
Mike Davis rf
Kirk Gibson lf
Mike Marshall 1b
John Shelby cf
Mike Scioscia c
Jeff Hamilton 3b
Dave Anderson ss
Tim Leary p


WP: Tim Leary (5-4)
LP: Mario Soto (3-5)
Sv: Jay Howell (5)
HR: None.

Big Klu
06-05-2008, 07:08 AM
15 years ago (1993), a 6-2 win at Riverfront vs. the Cardinals.

St. Louis
Bernard Gilkey lf
Ozzie Smith ss
Gregg Jefferies 1b
Ray Lankford cf
Todd Zeile 3b
Mark Whiten rf
Luis Alicea 2b
Erik Pappas c
Bob Tewksbury p

Cincinnati
Roberto Kelly cf
Bip Roberts 2b
Barry Larkin ss
Kevin Mitchell lf
Reggie Sanders rf
Randy Milligan 1b
Willie Greene 3b
Joe Oliver c
Tim Belcher p


WP: Tim Belcher (3-4)
LP: Bob Tewksbury (4-6)
HR: None.

Big Klu
06-05-2008, 07:09 AM
10 years ago (1998), a 2-1 win at Riverfront vs. the Indians.

Cleveland
Kenny Lofton cf
Omar Vizquel ss
David Justice lf
Jim Thome 1b
Manny Ramirez rf
Sandy Alomar Jr. c
Travis Fryman 3b
David Bell 2b
Charles Nagy p

Cincinnati
Reggie Sanders cf
Chris Stynes lf
Barry Larkin ss
Eddie Taubensee c
Dmitri Young 1b
Willie Greene 3b
Bret Boone 2b
Jon Nunnally rf
Pete Harnisch p


WP: Pete Harnisch (6-1)
LP: Charles Nagy (7-3)
Sv: Jeff Shaw (17)
HR: CLE - Jim Thome (15).

Pete Harnisch, Danny Graves, and Jeff Shaw combined on a five-hitter for the Reds.

Big Klu
06-05-2008, 07:09 AM
Five years ago (2003), a 10-2 loss at Great American Ball Park vs. the Yankees.

New York Yankees
Alfonso Soriano 2b
Derek Jeter ss
Jason Giambi 1b
Jorge Posada c
Robin Ventura 3b
Raul Mondesi rf
Hideki Matsui cf
Juan Rivera lf
Jose Contreras p

Cincinnati
Adam Dunn lf
Jose Guillen rf
Sean Casey 1b
Austin Kearns cf
Aaron Boone ss
Russell Branyan 3b
Jason LaRue c
Ray Olmedo 2b
Danny Graves p


WP: Jose Contreras (3-1)
LP: Danny Graves (3-5)
HR: NY - Hideki Matsui (4), Alfonso Soriano (18). CIN - Jason LaRue (7).

Jose Contreras, Antonio Osuna, and Mariano Rivera combined on a six-hitter for the Yankees.

cumberlandreds
06-05-2008, 09:14 AM
40 years ago (1968), a 10-0 win at Crosley Field vs. the Braves.

Atlanta
Felipe Alou cf
Sonny Jackson ss
Tito Francona lf
Joe Torre 1b
Felix Millan 2b
Clete Boyer 3b
Mike Lum rf
Bob Tillman c
Phil Niekro p

Cincinnati
Pete Rose rf
Tommy Helms 2b
Vada Pinson cf
Alex Johnson lf
Lee May 1b
Tony Perez 3b
Johnny Bench c
Leo Cardenas ss
Gary Nolan p


WP: Gary Nolan (2-0)
LP: Phil Niekro (5-4)
HR: CIN - Lee May (5), Tony Perez (6).

Gary Nolan pitched a three-hit shutout with 6 K's to get the win for the Reds. The only hits for the Braves were a one-out single by Bob Tillman in the third inning, a two-out single by Felipe Alou in the sixth, and a one-out double by Joe Torre in the seventh.

The five through seven slots in the lineup are loaded with power for the Reds. Time move them up.

cumberlandreds
06-05-2008, 09:16 AM
25 years ago (1983), a 6-3 loss at Riverfront vs. the Astros.

Houston
Omar Moreno cf
Terry Puhl rf
Dickie Thon ss
Phil Garner 3b
Jose Cruz lf
Ray Knight 1b
Alan Ashby c
Bill Doran 2b
Mike LaCoss p

Cincinnati
Duane Walker lf
Paul Householder cf
Dave Concepcion ss
Dan Driessen 1b
Cesar Cedeņo rf
Wayne Krenchicki 3b
Alan Knicely c
Tom Foley 2b
Charlie Puleo p


WP: Vern Ruhle (1-1)
LP: Bill Scherrer (1-3)
Sv: Bill Dawley (4)
HR: CIN - Dan Driessen (5).

Talk about a Sunday Special! Manager Russ Nixon gave a day off to 2B Ron Oester, 3B Johnny Bench, LF Gary Redus, CF Eddie Milner, and C Dann Bilardello.

For that 83 team I don't think it mattered much who started. They all stank.

cumberlandreds
06-05-2008, 09:17 AM
35 years ago (1973), a 6-5 10-inning win at Riverfront Stadium vs. the Mets.

New York Mets
Wayne Garrett 3b
Felix Millan 2b
Willie Mays cf
Rusty Staub rf
Jim Fregosi lf
John Milner 1b
Duffy Dyer c
Ted Martinez ss
Jerry Koosman p

Cincinnati
Pete Rose lf
Joe Morgan 2b
Johny Bench rf
Tony Perez 1b
Dave Concepcion ss
Bobby Tolan cf
Denis Menke 3b
Bill Plummer c
Ross Grimsley p


WP: Don Gullett (6-3)
LP: Phil Hennigan (0-3)
HR: CIN - Johnny Bench (12).

With the scored tied 2-2 after nine innings, the Mets scored three runs in the top of the tenth on a two-out three-run triple by Duffy Dyer off Don Gullett. In the bottom of the tenth, pinch-hitter Richie Scheinblum led off with a walk, advanced to third on a single by Pete Rose, and scored on a wild pitch by Tug McGraw. Joe Morgan then walked, prompting a Mets pitching change. Johnny Bench immediately greeted new Mets reliever Phil Hennigan with a game-winning three-run homer, giving the Reds the victory.

Bench had the "day off" too by playing RF.

Big Klu
06-06-2008, 07:14 AM
For that 83 team I don't think it mattered much who started. They all stank.

True, but there is a big dropoff between Redus-Milner-Oester and Walker-Householder-Foley. Bilardello had his "career year" in '83, and was much better defensively than Knicely. Krenchicki was a capable replacement--though he wasn't the offensive threat that even a diminished Bench was, he was a much better defensive player at 3B, and he hit for decent average.

George Anderson
06-06-2008, 10:27 AM
The five through seven slots in the lineup are loaded with power for the Reds. Time move them up.

I have noticed that the Dave Bristol pretty much goes with the same lineup day in and day out.

George Anderson
06-06-2008, 02:10 PM
Krenchicki was a capable replacement--though he wasn't the offensive threat that even a diminished Bench was, he was a much better defensive player at 3B, and he hit for decent average.

How bad defensively was Bench at third?

I know he had the arm to play third but was he clueless with the glove?

I was a youngster at the time and don't recall specifics about his defense.

cumberlandreds
06-06-2008, 02:16 PM
How bad defensively was Bench at third?

I know he had the arm to play third but was he clueless with the glove?

I was a youngster at the time and don't recall specifics about his defense.

He was a statue at third. Because of all his years of catching he couldn't move to either side much at all. If a ball wasn't hit right at him he couldn't get it. The arm was fine if he got the ball but getting it was the problem.
Looking back the Reds should have moved Driessen in a trade and put Bench at first full time. He still had a good bat at the end but playing third and the Reds losing so much wore him out,IMO.