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fearofpopvol1
06-08-2008, 09:04 PM
Could it be a Red? You'd have to think, at this moment...the guys with the best shot of winning the NL ROY would be:

Joey Votto
Jay Bruce
Geovany Soto
Kosuke Fukodome
Blake DeWitt
Jair Jurrjens
Hiroki Kuroda
John Lannan
Justin Upton (could be a factor, but hasn't played well as of late)

TRF
06-08-2008, 09:17 PM
Sorry, But Soto HAS to be at the top of the list right now, not Votto. Bruce would be 4th at this point, at best.

The Baumer
06-08-2008, 09:20 PM
Bruce's stats are piling quick, he's almost got a third, and in some cases half, the stats that Soto and DeWitt have, in his only two weeks of games.

fearofpopvol1
06-08-2008, 09:53 PM
Sorry, But Soto HAS to be at the top of the list right now, not Votto. Bruce would be 4th at this point, at best.

I wasn't listing them in order, just the overall candidates.

And I think Soto IS at the top of the list right now. But his overall stats are actually pretty comparable to Votto's.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2008, 09:57 PM
I predict both Bruce and Votto will have better numbers than Soto at the end of the season but Soto will win the award because of the position and the team he plays on.

Reds1
06-08-2008, 09:57 PM
Long way to go. Soto struggling some of late and he takes off ever 4th or 5th game so less stats. I would think at year end bot Votto and Bruce would have a good shot. I'd put Soto there now, but dont' think it's going to hold where I do think Votto will continue and Bruce will be great!

guttle11
06-08-2008, 10:10 PM
At the end of the year, I think it will be down to Soto or Bruce. May not be fair, but voters will choose Bruce over Votto from the Reds, meaning Votto will recieve a ton of 3rd/4th place votes.

If I had to guess, I'd say Bruce. He's the most talented rookie, IMO.

Benihana
06-08-2008, 10:36 PM
Um, Edinson Volquez anyone?

Highlifeman21
06-08-2008, 10:40 PM
Um, Edinson Volquez anyone?

Is he eligible?

marcshoe
06-08-2008, 10:42 PM
One of the announcers a night or two ago said no.

Dan
06-08-2008, 10:44 PM
Um, Edinson Volquez anyone?

He doesn't qualify. He pitched for Texas in 2005, 2006, and 2007, accumulating enough innings that he isn't a rookie anymore.

Edit: I believe you have to start the season with <50IP for it to be considered your rookie season, and Volquez started with something like 80 or so.

dougdirt
06-08-2008, 10:44 PM
Is he eligible?

No he isn't. 50 innings in the majors and you are no longer eligible.

kaldaniels
06-08-2008, 11:19 PM
How long are the Reds "in control" of Volquez?

vaticanplum
06-08-2008, 11:36 PM
How long are the Reds "in control" of Volquez?

I think through 2012, provided arbitration goes ok? If my math is correct, he's first arbitration-eligible in 2010.

Reds1
06-09-2008, 01:01 AM
I guess you could consider Cueto a dark horse at 5-5 now and he's really on a roll. He'd have to kick it in, but when is the last time we had this many great youngsters.

icehole3
06-09-2008, 07:37 AM
since the crown jewels

fearofpopvol1
08-31-2008, 09:44 PM
Anyone think with Votto's recent surge he has a shot against the medie darling Cubs' Soto?

Soto's overall numbers do look better as of now (especially when you consider he's a catcher), but with a really great September, I wonder if Votto might be able to make a run.

OnBaseMachine
08-31-2008, 09:50 PM
Soto is a lock to win it. Votto could hit 30 homeruns and OPS .900 and Soto would win it because he plays for the first place Cubs.

flyer85
08-31-2008, 09:59 PM
Soto has to be a lock

jojo
08-31-2008, 10:04 PM
Soto is a lock to win it. Votto could hit 30 homeruns and OPS .900 and Soto would win it because he plays for the first place Cubs.

Soto would win it because he's a catcher hitting .287/.368/.507 while playing in nearly all of his team's games.

The real injustice would be if Votto won it because his team was higher in the standings....

OnBaseMachine
08-31-2008, 10:07 PM
FWIW, I think Soto deserves the award. I'm just saying if Votto had the same numbers as a rookie from a first place team, regardless of position, the award would probably go to the guy on the better team.

cincinnati chili
09-01-2008, 12:06 AM
Unanimous for Soto. This was discussable in June. Not now.

Matt700wlw
09-01-2008, 04:05 AM
Votto's made a nice case, but Soto...the Cub...sadly, has the numbers, and should get it.

Hap
09-01-2008, 10:33 AM
I think Hal Morris should win it instead of David Justice.

blumj
09-01-2008, 10:48 AM
I think the AL race has gotten a little more interesting, with Longoria out of action and the Rays just rolling along without him like he was never there.

RedsManRick
09-01-2008, 01:38 PM
I think the AL race has gotten a little more interesting, with Longoria out of action and the Rays just rolling along without him like he was never there.

The AL award is going to be very interesting if for no other reason that there are about 10 guys putting up solid rookie years. I think Longoria is the clear winner and should also win the gold glove. At first blush, I'd rank them like this:

1. Longoria, TAM
2. Galarraga, DET
3. Chamerlain, NYY
4. Aviles, KC
5. Ziegler, OAK

I'm imagine Ellsbury and Alexi Ramirez will finish in the top 5 along side the first 3 I've listed and Galarraga will probably be 4th or 5th.

OnBaseMachine
09-01-2008, 01:39 PM
Longoria should have the AL Rookie of the Year award locked up IMO.

blumj
09-01-2008, 02:13 PM
Longoria should have the AL Rookie of the Year award locked up IMO.
I still think he has to come back and play more, and he is expected to. But, if something changes and he only winds up playing a few more games, then I think the door's still open for someone else who finishes strongly, like Aviles or Galarraga.