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AmarilloRed
06-21-2008, 02:33 PM
Bailey goes for Louisville at 6:15 ET
Chattanooga goes at 7:15 ET
Josh Fogg goes for Sarasota at 7:05 ET
Dayton starts at 7:00 PM
Clayton Shunick goes for Billings at 7:00 MT
The GCL Reds start at 10:00 AM

Question:The GCL Reds start at 10:00 AM, but there is no score or box yet. Can someone explain this to me?

Kc61
06-21-2008, 02:39 PM
Bailey goes for Louisville at 6:15 ET
Chattanooga goes at 7:15 ET
Josh Fogg goes for Sarasota at 7:05 ET
Dayton starts at 7:00 PM
Clayton Shurick goes for Billings at 7:00 MT
The GCL Reds start at 10:00 AM

Question:The GCL Reds start at 10:00 AM, but there is no score or box yet. Can someone explain this to me?

GCL scores always seem to show up after the fact, sometimes long after the game has ended.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 02:41 PM
I'm interested in seeing how Shunick does tonight.

Joseph
06-21-2008, 02:58 PM
I may have missed any convo, but I'm surprised Bailey didn't go into operation shut down or anything. I think the kid may not be all we hoped, but I also think he may not be as selfish and bad as we sometimes hear.

JaxRed
06-21-2008, 03:47 PM
I was on west coast of Fl today.... I'd be suprised if they got game in.....

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 06:02 PM
The GCL Reds were suspended after three innings today due to rain. They led 1-0 up to that point.

Efrain Contreras was 1-for-2 with a RBI.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 06:23 PM
The struggles for Homer continue. He allows back-to-back singles to begin the game. He then gets a double play and gets ahead 0-2 on the next batter before he worked it to 2-2 and homered. Louisville trails 2-0 in the first inning.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 06:37 PM
Homer threw a 1-2-3 second inning with a strikeout.

2 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 0 BB, 1 K

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 06:42 PM
Ben Jukich is starting for Chattanooga.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 07:18 PM
The Sarasota game is in a rain delay.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 07:27 PM
Ben Jukich throws a 1-2-3 first inning with a strikeout.

Homer Bailey
06-21-2008, 07:27 PM
Why did I make my Redzone name Homer Bailey. Why.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 07:29 PM
Why did I make my Redzone name Homer Bailey. Why.

Change it to Edinson Volquez. ;)

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 07:39 PM
Another 1-2-3 inning for Jukich with a strikeout.

2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K

AmarilloRed
06-21-2008, 07:40 PM
Louisville losing 3-0 in the 6th

Bailey so far: 6 IP, 7 hits, 3 runs, 2 ER, 0 BB, 4 K

The Sarasota game is being delayed by rain.

PuffyPig
06-21-2008, 07:43 PM
Why did I make my Redzone name Homer Bailey. Why.

I'm guessing Homer Bailey is asking the same thing....:D

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 07:52 PM
Homer has only thrown 63 pitches through six innings.

AmarilloRed
06-21-2008, 07:58 PM
Bailey: 7 IP, 8 hits,3 runs, 2 ER, 0 BB, 5k.

His pitch count is at 68 through 7 innings.

Jukich: 3 IP, 1 hit, 3 K

Shawn_RedsFan
06-21-2008, 08:05 PM
I was going to try to watch the Louisville game on MILB tv but for some reason it is not working, anyone else having that problem?

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 08:07 PM
68 pitches in seven innings is unbelievable.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 08:07 PM
Jukich: 3 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K

Spring~Fields
06-21-2008, 08:10 PM
Ben Jukich is starting for Chattanooga.

What pitches and speeds does Jukich throw? He appears to be doing well, so I was wondering about his pitches.

AmarilloRed
06-21-2008, 08:15 PM
Bailey: 8 IP, 10 hits, 4 runs, 3 ER, 0 BB, 7 K

He has thrown 89 pitches, so his night might be done.

Bats are down 4-0 after 7 1/2.

Mario-Rijo
06-21-2008, 08:16 PM
What pitches and speeds does Jukich throw? He appears to be doing well, so I was wondering about his pitches.

I moved up his Q and A I posted a while back, But here is the Answer from him.


OC: What are you throwing at this point?

BJ: I throw my fastball, my two-seam. My curveball is my bread-and-butter. I throw a slider and my change-up is still a work in progress.

AmarilloRed
06-21-2008, 08:23 PM
Montano is having a good start in Dayton tonight

Montano: 4 IP, 1 hit, 4 K

klw
06-21-2008, 08:26 PM
Why did I make my Redzone name Homer Bailey. Why.

Because spelling BJ Symanski all the time would be rough.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 08:28 PM
Jukich: 4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K

membengal
06-21-2008, 08:29 PM
Time to move Jukich up to AAA? I think so.

AmarilloRed
06-21-2008, 08:32 PM
Jukich: 5 IP, 3 hits, 0 runs, 0 BB, 5 K.

Coffey is on for the ninth, so Bailey's line is final.

Dayton is now leading 3-0, Cozart has hit his 7th HR.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 08:36 PM
I'm liking Jukich more and more each day. He doesn't project to be a top-of-rotation starter by any means but he could be a solid 4th or 5th starter behind Volquez, Harang, Cueto, and Thompson. He keeps the ball in the yard and can has a solid strikeout rate. I wouldn't mind seeing him bumped to Louisville soon to replace Thompson.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 08:38 PM
Sarasota is finally underway after a rain delay. Frazier singled in his first atbat. Game is scoreless after one inning.

Spring~Fields
06-21-2008, 08:41 PM
I moved up his Q and A I posted a while back, But here is the Answer from him.

Thank you

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 08:44 PM
I can remember when the Reds acquired Jukich that Baseball America was pretty high on his curveball. He's a lanky guy (6'4" 190) so there's room for him to fill out and add a mph or two to his fastball. I'm also curious to hear how his changeup is coming along.

Spring~Fields
06-21-2008, 08:49 PM
I can remember when the Reds acquired Jukich that Baseball America was pretty high on his curveball. He's a lanky guy (6'4" 190) so there's room for him to fill out and add a mph or two to his fastball. I'm also curious to hear how his changeup is coming along.

I saw that he is being consistent and having good outcomes, naturally that peaked my interest, something is going well for him, I too am curious about the changeup etc. Mario provided information that covered most of my questions. After seeing what Volquez and Thompson did I am getting more excited about the pitching, maybe greedy too, I want the Reds to have all the good ones. ;)

AmarilloRed
06-21-2008, 08:50 PM
4-1 Bats now. They scored the run on a Dickerson single and 2 errors.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 08:57 PM
Jukich: 6 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 5 K

Joseph
06-21-2008, 09:00 PM
Louisville losing 3-0 in the 6th

Bailey so far: 6 IP, 7 hits, 3 runs, 2 ER, 0 BB, 4 K

The Sarasota game is being delayed by rain.

If he could do that in the majors, he'd be worth all the trouble.

AmarilloRed
06-21-2008, 09:00 PM
2-0 Lookouts.

The Bats lost 4-1.

The Dayton Dragon are up 5-0, and Cozart has hit his second HR of the night

Parker is also 2-3

The Dayton pitcher Montano: 6 IP,3 hits, 1 BB, 4K.

Dayton added another run in the bottom of the 6th, and now lead 6-0

HokieRed
06-21-2008, 09:20 PM
Jukich gave up two in the seventh.

AmarilloRed
06-21-2008, 09:26 PM
Jukich's line: 7 IP, 6 hits, 2 runs, 2 ER, 1 BB, 6 K

Sarasota leads 2-0 after 4.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 10:11 PM
Billings trails 2-0 after four innings.

Soto is 2-for-2 with a triple...he's got the only two hits for Billings.

Shunick: 3 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 BB, 4 K

Blitz Dorsey
06-21-2008, 10:15 PM
OBM, I told you Soto was going to be a player ;-)

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 10:17 PM
Chattanooga won 4-3.

Cumberland: 1-for-3
Valaika: 0-for-3 walk
Dorn: 1-for-2 double, walk

Jukich: 7 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 1 BB, 6 K

Watson: 0.2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 BB, 1 K

Viola: 0.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

Fisher: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 10:22 PM
Dayton won 6-0.

Cozart: 2-for-5 two homeruns (#7,8)
Parker: 3-for-4 double
Waring: 1-for-4
Phipps: 2-for-4 triple
Menchaca: 2-for-4 double, homerun
Mesoraco: 1-for-4
Reed: 1-for-3 HBP

Montano: 7 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K

Arias: 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 10:39 PM
Juan Duran went 0-for-4 today. That's the first game in which he hasn't reach base.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 10:42 PM
Billings trails 2-1 after six.

Soto: 2-for-3 triple
Sappelt: 1-for-2 double
Means: 1-for-3

Shunick: 3 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 BB, 4 K

Freeman: 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 10:45 PM
Sarasota is winning 5-0 after 8 1/2.

Kahaulelio: 2-for-5 double
Heisey: 2-for-4 walk
Frazier: 1-for-4
Francisco: 1-for-4 double
Stubbs: 0-for-3 walk

Fogg: 8 IP, 9 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K

KittyDuran
06-21-2008, 10:46 PM
Dayton won 6-0.

Cozart: 2-for-5 two homeruns (#7,8)
Parker: 3-for-4 double
Waring: 1-for-4
Phipps: 2-for-4 triple
Menchaca: 2-for-4 double, homerun
Mesoraco: 1-for-4
Reed: 1-for-3 HBP

Montano: 7 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K

Arias: 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 KHopefully, Parker is getting hot again. :thumbup:

Might go to the game tomorrow - and snag a good seat.

OnBaseMachine
06-21-2008, 10:47 PM
Hopefully, Parker is getting hot again. :thumbup:

Might go to the game tomorrow - and snag a good seat.

We expect a full game report if ya go.:D

cincyinco
06-21-2008, 11:05 PM
Why did I make my Redzone name Homer Bailey. Why.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that his downfall as a prospect might coincide with you choosing his name as your username

:cool:

So, if thats true, please don't take OBM's suggestion and change your name to Edinson Volquez.. ;)

I'm just messin of course.
:beerme:

cincyinco
06-21-2008, 11:15 PM
Because spelling BJ Symanski all the time would be rough.


No doubt, especially since its Szymanski, not Symanski.. :cool:

Blitz Dorsey
06-21-2008, 11:25 PM
Good to see Cozart playing well. I've never heard so little talk about a second-round pick. Probably because he was really the Reds' fourth draft pick last year since they had two supplemental first rounders. And because he really hasn't done much up to this point.

How is Cozart defensively? Does he project as a solid MLB SS? Or is he yet another "shortstop" in our minor league system that actually projects as a 2B, 3B or OF.

cincyinco
06-21-2008, 11:26 PM
Cozart, I believe, is a true SS. His D is his calling card, ala Janish.

I think of him as a slightly better Janish in that his bat may be a notch better.. still not a great bat.. Most thought the pick was a reach. But my gut tells me he might be slightly underrated.

CTA513
06-21-2008, 11:34 PM
Soto is now 3 for 4 tonight after hitting his 4th home run of the season in the 8th inning.

RedlegJake
06-21-2008, 11:57 PM
Cozart is a true SS in the good glove no hit tradition. Nothing so far gives me any hope he'll be much more than that.

.234 Avg .290 OBP .364 Slg .654 OPS

Xavier Redleg
06-22-2008, 12:10 AM
Cozart is a true SS in the good glove no hit tradition. Nothing so far gives me any hope he'll be much more than that.

.234 Avg .290 OBP .364 Slg .654 OPS

Actually it's currently .252/.321/.466 for a .787 OPS.
He seems to be a streaky hitter - I think this is his third multi-HR game of the year. So if he can be more consistent he's got the potential to be a decent enough hitter to start some at SS. Count me in as thinking he's a bit underrated on this board. Certainly not a top 10 prospect, but still underrated.

cincyinco
06-22-2008, 12:11 AM
Man, had no idea his numbers were that bad.. But looking at his splits is interesting.

http://www.minorleaguesplits.com/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?pl=446359

He really struggles against LHP, but does pretty well against RHP.

Also, seems like the home park is KILLING him. .849 OPS away from home.

However, I can see why my impression of him was wrong, because my impression that he's doing pretty well is garnered through recent posts and he's been pretty damn good in June with a line of 314/368/569 good for a .937 OPS

Anyway, I hope he keeps on going at a better pace and can improve his overall numbers. Lets hope for a strong 2nd half.

dougdirt
06-22-2008, 12:16 AM
Neftali Soto is destroying people in the Pioneer League.

OnBaseMachine
06-22-2008, 12:19 AM
Billings lost 4-3 to fall to the 4-1 on the season. They actually had a 3-2 lead in the 9th and blew it and went into 10 innings and lost.

Soto finished 4-for-5 with a triple and his 4th homerun. He finished a double shy of the cycle.

Means: 2-for-5
Soto: 4-for-5 triple, homerun (#4)
Sappelt: 2-for-4 double

RedlegJake
06-22-2008, 12:36 AM
Man, had no idea his numbers were that bad.. But looking at his splits is interesting.

http://www.minorleaguesplits.com/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?pl=446359

He really struggles against LHP, but does pretty well against RHP.

Also, seems like the home park is KILLING him. .849 OPS away from home.

However, I can see why my impression of him was wrong, because my impression that he's doing pretty well is garnered through recent posts and he's been pretty damn good in June with a line of 314/368/569 good for a .937 OPS

Anyway, I hope he keeps on going at a better pace and can improve his overall numbers. Lets hope for a strong 2nd half.

Yes, he's been hitting much better lately. The numbers I quoted were his career numbers through yesterday's game. If Zach can continue improving and show his past month hasn't been a fluke then he'll definitely jump a long way in my estimation. His glove is really solid so if he can get to the .750 OPS level and sustain that as he gets promoted ...

Mario-Rijo
06-22-2008, 01:15 AM
Yes, he's been hitting much better lately. The numbers I quoted were his career numbers through yesterday's game. If Zach can continue improving and show his past month hasn't been a fluke then he'll definitely jump a long way in my estimation. His glove is really solid so if he can get to the .750 OPS level and sustain that as he gets promoted ...

.......then we'll all be very happy! :thumbup:

OnBaseMachine
06-22-2008, 01:21 AM
Pitching, power perplex Loons
Montano hurls seven shutout innings, and Cozart clubs two home runs; Dragons still perfect in second half.

By Marc Katz

Staff Writer

Sunday, June 22, 2008

DAYTON Starter Luis Montano returned to his early-season form while shortstop Zack Cozart and left fielder Brandon Menchaca provided the power as the Dragons remained undefeated through three second-half games Saturday, June 21, at Fifth Third Field.

Montano, who never allowed more than two runs in any of his first six starts but has seen his ERA blossom to more than 5.00 since then, turned in seven shutout innings, allowing just four hits on the way to a 6-0 Dragons victory over Great Lakes as the Dragons lured more than 9,000 fans for the sixth straight home game.

On one of those nights when Dayton's hitting matched the pitching, Cozart slugged two homers to left the second time he has done that this season and Menchaca hit his second homer in two nights.

"My power is coming from learning how to hit," said Cozart, who has eight homers. "In college (Mississippi), when you have metal bats, you can yank everything. I never used my legs. Now, I am."

Menchaca also doubled, giving him five extra-base hits in three games since he returned from more than a month at extended spring training.

Meanwhile, Montano did his part the way he did when he posted a 1.69 ERA through his first six games. In his next seven games, his ERA was 8.13.

"I was thinking too much," said Montano, whose cousin is Reds closer Francisco Cordero. "I was trying to be too perfect. I had to go back to who I was. I called Cordero today. He told me to throw down in the zone."

Jovanny Rosario doubled to lead off the game for the Loons, who then went 13 straight batters without reaching base. When Francisco Lizarraga broke the spell with a one-out single in the fifth, he was quickly wiped out in a double play.

Only in the sixth did Montano allow two runners.

"We didn't need to score a lot of runs," said Cozart, whose leadoff homer off the scoreboard in the fourth was all the Dragons needed. It was Dayton's first shutout since May 26 at West Michigan.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/sports/pro/dragons/2008/06/22/ddn062208spdragons.html

OnBaseMachine
06-22-2008, 01:25 AM
Neftali Soto has a five game hitting streak and is batting a robust .435/.480/1.087 - 1.567 OPS through 23 atbats and five games in the Pioneer League. That kid can hit.

icehole3
06-22-2008, 06:12 AM
I wonder if Cozart is hearing Soto's footsteps, I like the progress of Cozart and he should gradually be moved up thru the system, his defense is excellent and it looks like he's progressing.

cincyinco
06-22-2008, 07:00 AM
Cozart stated he is adjusting from aluminum to wood bats, that he's had to learn how to drive the ball using his legs and not just the upper half like he did with aluminum.. Its true there is an adjustment for a lot of players - so lets hope he is finally making those adjustments and his month of June is for real. We shall see.

Got my fingers crossed.

lollipopcurve
06-22-2008, 09:08 AM
Cozart had a shoulder injury last year and was still hampered at the beginning of this year (thus his late start at Dayton). He was considered to be the best defensive SS in college last year. The bat was considered OK -- nothing special, but not weak.

Grande Donkey
06-22-2008, 09:22 AM
I wonder if Cozart is hearing Soto's footsteps, I like the progress of Cozart and he should gradually be moved up thru the system, his defense is excellent and it looks like he's progressing.Possible but not probable considering Soto has been moved off of SS. I think he might have been moved to third for good.

AccordinglyReds
06-22-2008, 10:48 AM
Bailey gets little support in return

Has 'great start,' but Bats lose 4-1

By C.L. Brown
cbrown@courier-journal.com

Bats pitcher Homer Bailey had a lot of his good stuff going. Too bad Louisville couldn't say the same at the plate.

With offense at a premium, the Bats lost to Buffalo 4-1 last night before 11,615 fans at Louisville Slugger Field.

Bailey, back from a three-start stint with the Cincinnati Reds, fell to 4-5 despite a solid outing. He pitched a season-best eight innings, allowing no walks and three earned runs and striking out seven.

"This is a great start for him," Bats manager Rick Sweet said. "Even though he got the loss, I don't care about that. This is a great start for him to really get his game back together so he can be the pitcher that everybody thinks he's capable of being."

Bailey gave up two singles to start the game and looked to escape the inning unscathed after a double play. But cleanup hitter Todd Linden blasted a 2-2 changeup over the wall in right field for his fourth homer of the season.

It was Bailey's only major mistake all game.

He was hit hard with the Reds, going 0-3 with an 8.76 ERA in just 121/3 innings and was sent back to the Bats on Wednesday.

"Obviously, before I went up -- and even two or three starts before that -- things were just very unsatisfactory," said Bailey, the No. 7 overall pick in the 2004 draft. "Finally you get knocked down enough where you're going, 'Okay, things have got to change.' "

So he worked with Reds pitching coach Dick Pole and watched more film of his delivery. It helped him clean up some mechanical flaws in his windup, and he believes that will keep him more consistent.

Last night he looked much more like the pitcher that started the season 4-2 with a 2.29 ERA for the Bats.

And despite not winning since April 30, Bailey maintains he hasn't started to doubt himself.

"No matter how many times you get a loss, especially some of the games I've done in the past month and a half, the next outing is a different one," he said. "I try to stay mentally strong as much as you can and keep that confidence."

Louisville's confidence at the plate could use a boost.

The Bats loaded the bases in the fifth after two suspect fielding plays, including a throwing error by shortstop Asdrubal Cabrera. But B. J. Szymanski struck out swinging to end the inning.

Louisville loaded the bases again in the eighth as Michael Griffin and Szymanski singled to start the inning. Andy Green walked with one out, but reliever Jeff Stevens struck out the side.

The Bats broke through with a run in the ninth to avoid their first shutout since a 6-0 loss to Toledo on May 23.

Louisville will try to avoid a sweep tonight at 6:15 with Justin Mallet (2-1, 4.72 ERA) pitching against Buffalo's Matt Ginter (5-6, 4.72).

mth123
06-22-2008, 10:58 AM
I Just heard an interview with Ted Power and I think I heard him say that Bailey was working between 93 and 95 MPH last night. I also thought I heard him say that a correction of a mechanical flaw while working with Pole after his last start is the reason. The team is looking for him to repeat from outing to outing now. That may be the best news of all if true.

Anybody else hear this or know if Bailey's stuff came back?

LoganBuck
06-22-2008, 11:19 AM
I Just heard an interview with Ted Power and I think I heard him say that Bailey was working between 93 and 95 MPH last night. I also thought I heard him say that a correction of a mechanical flaw while working with Pole after his last start is the reason. The team is looking for him to repeat from outing to outing now. That may be the best news of all if true.

Anybody else hear this or know if Bailey's stuff came back?

I heard that same interview with Power, I thought he said "he touched 96, 97 and he was working between 93 and 95mph". Power was interesting today. He talked about Bailey doing some mechanical work with Pole, which explains why he wasn't optioned out until Thursday. He thought that the reason Maloney had been lit up recently was because he was try to be "a finesse pitcher" instead of going at the hitters. He also talked about Thompson, run of the mill stuff, but did say that Thompson has a tendency to get mad, and a little excited.

Pretty good stuff. Then we got to listen to more people complain about Adam Dunn only hitting homers, and having a "horrible" season.

Matt700wlw
06-22-2008, 11:34 AM
Very good sign from Bailey....keep it up!

Grande Donkey
06-22-2008, 11:41 AM
A good Homer Bailey would be HUGE to this teams future. A rotation of Volquez, Cueto, Thompson, Harang and Good Homer sounds really damn good.

camisadelgolf
06-22-2008, 11:58 AM
A good Homer Bailey would be HUGE to this teams future. A rotation of Volquez, Cueto, Thompson, Harang and Good Homer sounds really damn good.

Yeah, no kidding. What if you could throw Travis Wood, Kyle Lotzkar, Matt Maloney, Jordan Smith, et al. on that pile, too?

Grande Donkey
06-22-2008, 12:14 PM
Yeah, no kidding. What if you could throw Travis Wood, Kyle Lotzkar, Matt Maloney, Jordan Smith, et al. on that pile, too?It's exciting.

Did anyone get to watch his start last night?