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ChatterRed
06-22-2008, 08:31 AM
19 year old third baseman playing at Billings. In 5 games he's hit 4 HR's and is batting .435.

Hopefully another promising prospect that will move quickly through the minors.

RedlegJake
06-22-2008, 10:59 AM
Soto's been on the radar for awhile. 6-3 180 pounds, Soto is from Puerto Rico where he broke Juan Gonzalez' HS home run record for PR. He had an .809 OPS in 2007 as an 18 y/o in the GCL and if you like RISP he OPS'd 1.010 with runners in scoring position. He's still raw and has a long way to go and doesn't project to stay at SS. Maybe 3B or left field. He is an intriguing prospect and this year it will be interesting to see if he can show some discipline and keep the strikeouts from getting out of control - he has a wide stance and long swing so discipline will be important.

OesterPoster
06-22-2008, 11:05 AM
He tailed off towards the end of last season due to an injury. I can't recall what the injury was, but I seem to remember his name being omitted from box scores for the last week of '07.

There are some videos out there of him hitting in an All-Star home run challenge as a high schooler. He has a very sweet stroke, very smooth.

RedlegJake
06-22-2008, 11:09 AM
He tailed off towards the end of last season due to an injury. I can't recall what the injury was, but I seem to remember his name being omitted from box scores for the last week of '07.

There are some videos out there of him hitting in an All-Star home run challenge as a high schooler. He has a very sweet stroke, very smooth.

He was shut down with an elbow inflammation in August last year. It was considered a minor injury but precautionary step.

Blitz Dorsey
06-23-2008, 07:04 PM
Why are players from Puerto Rico placed in the draft, while Dominicans and other players from Latin America are part of a free-for-all bidding war? Is it as simple as Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory while the DR and other islands are not?

Jay Bruce
06-23-2008, 07:07 PM
Why are players from Puerto Rico placed in the draft, while Dominicans and other players from Latin America are part of a free-for-all bidding war? Is it as simple as Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory while the DR and other islands are not?

Yes, that's the reason.

Blitz Dorsey
06-23-2008, 07:16 PM
Then why are players from Canada eligible for the draft and not the free-for-all? I mean, I know the U.S. could take over Canada at any time, but we haven't, at least not yet ;-)

cincyinco
06-23-2008, 07:41 PM
Blitz, the draft rules are stupid, its not worth the time trying to find reason and common sense behind them.

Blitz Dorsey
06-23-2008, 09:47 PM
Good point inco.

schmidty622
06-23-2008, 10:33 PM
Man the Reds really seem poised to be the leader of player acquisition in the Latin countries.

RedlegJake
06-23-2008, 10:47 PM
Man the Reds really seem poised to be the leader of player acquisition in the Latin countries.

Probably won't happen but if they get Inoa and Ramirez to go with Duran they ARE the Latin leader for this year anyway.

NorrisHopper30
06-23-2008, 11:22 PM
Who is this Ramirez guy everyone keeps bringing up? I've only read about Inoa and Duran.

OnBaseMachine
06-23-2008, 11:40 PM
Who is this Ramirez guy everyone keeps bringing up? I've only read about Inoa and Duran.

I think he means Yorman Rodriguez, the second best player behind Inoa. He's an outfielder rumored to be seeking around two million dollars. I doubt if the Reds sign him if they get Inoa.

schmidty622
06-24-2008, 07:08 AM
I think he means Yorman Rodriguez, the second best player behind Inoa. He's an outfielder rumored to be seeking around two million dollars. I doubt if the Reds sign him if they get Inoa.

No, but he wouldn't be a bad consolation prize if they lose out on him.

TRF
06-24-2008, 09:24 AM
Then why are players from Canada eligible for the draft and not the free-for-all? I mean, I know the U.S. could take over Canada at any time, but we haven't, at least not yet ;-)

JMO here.

Canada has a very established school system. Their culture is more closely tied to ours. They are seen as more equal, with it's citizens having the same opportunities as those in the U.S.


Not so much in the DR, Venezuela etc. Japan has it's own system that prevents kids from joining MLB.

MLB really, really needs to add the world to the draft. plain and simple. make it fair.

Blitz Dorsey
06-24-2008, 10:31 AM
JMO here.

Canada has a very established school system. Their culture is more closely tied to ours. They are seen as more equal, with it's citizens having the same opportunities as those in the U.S.


Not so much in the DR, Venezuela etc. Japan has it's own system that prevents kids from joining MLB.

MLB really, really needs to add the world to the draft. plain and simple. make it fair.

I think you're probably on the money with your opinion.

Oh, and just so we don't get off topic, Nefi Soto can rake.

OnBaseMachine
06-24-2008, 12:40 PM
PROSPECT OF THE DAY

For the second time in a week, Neftali Soto (Reds) claims POTD honors. Soto has been the most impressive performer thus far in the Pioneer League and added to his resume with a 3-for-4 day on Sunday, including a pair of doubles. Soto, who the Reds drafted as a shortstop in 2007 has always been considered a prospect who would move to a different position as he matured because of his size and has made all his starts in Billings at either third base or DH.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?paged=3

OnBaseMachine
07-03-2008, 09:08 AM
Soto is crushing the ball again. Last night he went 2-for-3 with two doubles and a walk. He's got four doubles in the past two games and nine on the season. He's now hitting .379/.419/.776 - 1.195 OPS with 14 extra-base hits in 58 atbats. Not bad for a 19-year old.

Steve4192
07-03-2008, 09:30 AM
Soto is crushing the ball again. Last night he went 2-for-3 with two doubles and a walk. He's got four doubles in the past two games and nine on the season. He's now hitting .379/.419/.776 - 1.195 OPS with 14 extra-base hits in 58 atbats. Not bad for a 19-year old.

Princeton will be pleased.

bucksfan2
07-03-2008, 09:35 AM
How much longer do you keep this guy in Billings? I would like to see him in Sarasota this season. It may be a little lofty but the guy has hit and hasnt stopped since he was drafted.

OesterPoster
07-03-2008, 09:38 AM
How much longer do you keep this guy in Billings? I would like to see him in Sarasota this season. It may be a little lofty but the guy has hit and hasnt stopped since he was drafted.

If anything happens, I suspect they'll bump Waring up to Sarasota, and then move Soto to Dayton for the remainder of the year.

Soto has been playing 3rd, I'm assuming?

camisadelgolf
07-03-2008, 09:56 AM
If anything happens, I suspect they'll bump Waring up to Sarasota, and then move Soto to Dayton for the remainder of the year.

Soto has been playing 3rd, I'm assuming?

Then what happens to Juan Francisco? Francisco and Waring are both the type of guys who you want to get as many at-bats as possible, in my opinion. Personally, I'd be tempted to move Waring to first base.

OesterPoster
07-03-2008, 10:06 AM
Forgot about Francisco. I guess we have a logjam at 3rd, especially if Frazier is considered a 3rd baseman too. Rosales is primarily playing 3rd too, correct?

camisadelgolf
07-03-2008, 10:50 AM
Rosales has played half his games at third and the other half scattered around the infield. I think the Reds see him as kind of a Rich Aurilia-type.

crazyredfan40
07-03-2008, 03:45 PM
I would move Soto to outfield and let him play in Dayton...

I think Soto is the most athletic of Francisco, Waring, himself...


Right now we also have Frazier that seems to be in the same mold as these 4 as well...

Then hopefully when Alonso signs you have him in the mold as well, with Votto and EE in the majors...

Lots of corner infield/LF type prospects that can hit, and not overly athletic...Will be interesting to see if we start moving any of them in the coming year or so...

Mario-Rijo
07-04-2008, 02:32 AM
Then what happens to Juan Francisco? Francisco and Waring are both the type of guys who you want to get as many at-bats as possible, in my opinion. Personally, I'd be tempted to move Waring to first base.

That may end up being a really good idea, good call. It's fairly obvious he's no 3B.

camisadelgolf
07-04-2008, 09:11 AM
That may end up being a really good idea, good call. It's fairly obvious he's no 3B.

I just hate seeing someone like Jason Louwsma or Mike McKennon (nothing against them personally, but they probably doesn't have quite the upside of Waring) taking away at-bats from someone with a better bat who may end up at first base eventually anyway.

11larkin11
07-04-2008, 01:08 PM
The only thing about moving Francisco over to first is you are basically taking away that cannon he was born with.

Mario-Rijo
07-04-2008, 03:47 PM
The only thing about moving Francisco over to first is you are basically taking away that cannon he was born with.

I think he meant Waring not Francisco. Francisco could become a good RF possibly, except he would be blocked there at the Major League level.

camisadelgolf
07-06-2008, 06:16 AM
I think he meant Waring not Francisco. Francisco could become a good RF possibly, except he would be blocked there at the Major League level.

I did. I agree completely on trying to take advantage of his arm. If his horrible plate discipline stops him from ever being a successful hitter, maybe he should try his luck as a pitcher?

redsof72
07-06-2008, 01:46 PM
Soto to Dayton. Waring to the disabled list.

Edit: Sorry, already mentioned in another thread.