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Handofdeath
06-23-2008, 01:54 PM
The calls started just after Chien-Ming Wang was hurt last week in Houston - Bronson Arroyo's friends jamming his cell phone, wondering if he's going to be the Yankees' midseason rotation fix. "Trade rumors," Arroyo said Sunday. "I know this is probably my best year in my whole career to be traded - we're not playing our best ball and my salary (nearly) triples next year. Me and (fellow starter Aaron) Harang, both. "If we're not winning, it all depends on the owner of the club. How long do you want to ride something and see if you're going to win or do you pull out the big-dollar guys and do something?"

New York Daily News

BEETTLEBUG
06-23-2008, 02:33 PM
What would we ask for and what would we get?

Fullboat
06-23-2008, 02:40 PM
What would we ask for and what would we get?

Well if we ask for cash=no problemo
If we ask for propects=? the Yanks tend to over rate their prospects(see Claussen)buyer beware.

Handofdeath
06-23-2008, 02:43 PM
There is more to this story where Arroyo makes some very interesting comments.

While Arroyo sounds like he's on the fence about possibly coming to New York, he paid Yankees owner George Steinbrenner a compliment Sunday while noting that baseball owners are generally businessmen first.

"I don't know a lot of the other owners, but in my estimation, the only guy who didn't (care) about making money is Steinbrenner," Arroyo said. "He feels like at all costs he wants to win the World Series. When I look at John Henry and those guys in Boston, yeah, they want to win, but they're only going to push the salary so far. They want to stay under a certain line, so to me, they're businessmen first and baseball people second."

Arroyo pitched in Boston from 2003-05 and he says he's thought about the possibility of one day being a Yankee, but "it's a double-edged sword for me. When I first got traded, I hated the fact I wasn't going to play in a place that had that kind of rivalry and the expectations. I really liked that.

"But playing here for three years, you kind of settle into that and get comfortable where you live and not having stuff written in the paper about you off the field and not have so much scrutiny. I'll go wherever I go. I can make things work and be happy wherever. I get content in a place. Would I like to play for a contender? Yes. But I'm enjoying myself here."

And, Arroyo says, the Reds have the ingredients to contend. "In this division, we can't be in the cellar with the club we have," he said. "But we're (a long way) out and we have to make a move some time or people will start pulling parts off."


I definitely get the feeling something is brewing. As far as what the Yankees would send, I'm guessing prospects. But, MLBtraderumors.com is saying it might take Melky Cabrera to land a front line starter and the Yankees are not too willing to do so.

mound_patrol
06-23-2008, 03:02 PM
I love reading what Arroyo has to say. I know he angers people at times with his honesty, but he's refreshing to listen to IMO.

I hope Arroyo remains a Red unless we get some real value back. He's a solid 4th or 5th starter, and this team isn't far from being able to contend.

durl
06-23-2008, 03:11 PM
I understand what he says about Steinbrenner wanting to win at all costs, but it's easy for Steinbrenner to say that. He's got the most tradition-laden franchise in baseball sitting in the top media market in the world. He can say he's not concerned about making money because, frankly, he never has to worry about it. With their TV deal, money will most likely never, ever, be a problem for the Yankees.

TheBigLebowski
06-23-2008, 03:24 PM
Melky Cabrera?? No thanks.

Handofdeath
06-23-2008, 03:31 PM
With how he is hitting so far this season, Robinson Cano would not be out of the question IMO. Slide Phillips over to SS and you've solved your middle infield problems.

Boston Red
06-23-2008, 03:50 PM
"I don't know a lot of the other owners, but in my estimation, the only guy who didn't (care) about making money is Steinbrenner," Arroyo said. "He feels like at all costs he wants to win the World Series."



Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Steinbrenner put up something like $5 million of his own money to purchase the Yanks? And isn't that stake worth in the $1 billion range now? Pretty sure that didn't happen not caring about making money.

Handofdeath
06-23-2008, 04:39 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Steinbrenner put up something like $5 million of his own money to purchase the Yanks? And isn't that stake worth in the $1 billion range now? Pretty sure that didn't happen not caring about making money.

This thread is supposed to be about Arroyo possibly going to the Yankees, let's not get off track. I will say this, I think what Arroyo means is that to Steinbrenner winning is more important than making money.

Root Down
06-23-2008, 04:58 PM
I can't see Arroyo getting traded solely due to the JTM commercials. I can't see Harang filling this role in any form. On a more serious note, I like Arroyo and would hate to see him go. But, my perception of him is that he isn't worth 14 million a year if it is true that his salary triples next season. That is a lot of money for "pretty good".

ED44
06-23-2008, 05:09 PM
I keep thinking back when the Braves were courting him last year with names like Escobar/Reyes being potential returns. I would LOVE to have Escobar at the top of the order right now.

As for the Yankees return, I want nothing to do with Cabrera...Ian Kennedy would be nice (not sure what else we would have to give them though...Weathers/cathing help would be a nice price to pay).

aerontg
06-23-2008, 05:42 PM
This thread is supposed to be about Arroyo possibly going to the Yankees, let's not get off track. I will say this, I think what Arroyo means is that to Steinbrenner winning is more important than making money.

I kind of got the impression that BA was saying that Steinbrenner is the only one that would be dumb enough (you all say "able", I say dumb) to pay BA the kind of money he WANTS to make (but doesn't deserve, IMO). We'll see.

Handofdeath
06-23-2008, 06:34 PM
I kind of got the impression that BA was saying that Steinbrenner is the only one that would be dumb enough (you all say "able", I say dumb) to pay BA the kind of money he WANTS to make (but doesn't deserve, IMO). We'll see.

It might be dumb, but the Yankees are starved for starting pitching. Mussina has an ERA just below 4.00 and is 39. Pettitte has an ERA just above 4.00 and is 36. Wang's ERA is also just above 4.00 and K/BB numbers are a little high. Joba is still adjusting to being a starter but is doing OK and Darrell Rasner has been pretty good but has very little experience as a starter. Then you have Ian Kennedy and his 7.41 ERA and Phillip Hughes whose ERA is 9.00. The Yankees have a starting staff that is not very impressive. They may not have a choice but to overpay for Arroyo. He's an innings eater with good K numbers. They could do a lot worse and one gets the impression at times that Arroyo doesn't really like playing in Cincinnati.

BEETTLEBUG
06-24-2008, 10:56 AM
What about Cano and Kennedy for Arroyo & ?

ChatterRed
06-24-2008, 12:47 PM
There is more to this story where Arroyo makes some very interesting comments.

While Arroyo sounds like he's on the fence about possibly coming to New York, he paid Yankees owner George Steinbrenner a compliment Sunday while noting that baseball owners are generally businessmen first.

"I don't know a lot of the other owners, but in my estimation, the only guy who didn't (care) about making money is Steinbrenner," Arroyo said. "He feels like at all costs he wants to win the World Series. When I look at John Henry and those guys in Boston, yeah, they want to win, but they're only going to push the salary so far. They want to stay under a certain line, so to me, they're businessmen first and baseball people second."

Arroyo pitched in Boston from 2003-05 and he says he's thought about the possibility of one day being a Yankee, but "it's a double-edged sword for me. When I first got traded, I hated the fact I wasn't going to play in a place that had that kind of rivalry and the expectations. I really liked that.

"But playing here for three years, you kind of settle into that and get comfortable where you live and not having stuff written in the paper about you off the field and not have so much scrutiny. I'll go wherever I go. I can make things work and be happy wherever. I get content in a place. Would I like to play for a contender? Yes. But I'm enjoying myself here."

And, Arroyo says, the Reds have the ingredients to contend. "In this division, we can't be in the cellar with the club we have," he said. "But we're (a long way) out and we have to make a move some time or people will start pulling parts off."


I definitely get the feeling something is brewing. As far as what the Yankees would send, I'm guessing prospects. But, MLBtraderumors.com is saying it might take Melky Cabrera to land a front line starter and the Yankees are not too willing to do so.

The Yankees are afraid to part with Melky Cabrera? :bowrofl::laugh:

You've got to be kidding me. Who would want him? :confused:

Jack Burton
06-25-2008, 12:40 PM
BA killed his trade value yesterday, he's pathetic. Griffey and Arroyo to somebody for a bag of circus peanuts and a 12 pack of shasta.

Fon Duc Tow
06-25-2008, 12:51 PM
Arroyo to the Yankees?

As a JTM consultant possibly I could see.

Jefferson24
06-25-2008, 04:09 PM
Yesterday's audition for batting practice pitcher went pretty good. We shouldn't have any trouble moving him now:rolleyes:

Red in Atl
06-25-2008, 04:32 PM
BA killed his trade value yesterday, he's pathetic. Griffey and Arroyo to somebody for a bag of circus peanuts and a 12 pack of shasta.

Classic! I enjoy your directness. Keeps me laughing while I languish here in the slow summer months of workville.

Edit - yes on the Arroyo comment, not Griffey

Root Down
06-25-2008, 05:34 PM
BA killed his trade value yesterday, he's pathetic. Griffey and Arroyo to somebody for a bag of circus peanuts and a 12 pack of shasta.

Awfully harsh on one of the best ever to play the game! Arroyo... yeah the peanuts and shasta agreed. But, trading a shoe-in to Cooperstown on the first ballot for a bag of peanuts? I'm just not real sure about that one.

durl
06-25-2008, 05:46 PM
BA killed his trade value yesterday, he's pathetic. Griffey and Arroyo to somebody for a bag of circus peanuts and a 12 pack of shasta.

Honestly, I can understand people believing that Griffey's tenure with the Reds should be over. It seems as though his body is not letting him play at the level he did when he came to town. (Only Bonds got better at this age and we now know how.) These are valid points for discussion.

Still, the man deserves more respect than to discuss tossing him away for a bag of peanuts and some soda. Whatever people think about Griffey now, no one can deny that he has been one of the greatest to ever play the game.

10 Gold Gloves, 7 Silver Slugger awards, an MVP award, 13 time All-Star; one of only 6 men to hit 600 HR (and only 3 above him did it cleanly). And he came to Cincinnati when he could have made far more money going elsewhere. I know baseball fans have a "what have you done for me lately" attitude and the era of big contracts makes a players faults stand out more. Still, we can voice our opinion without reducing ourselves to such levels of absurdity as many seem to enjoy doing. "A bag of peanuts?"

My suggestion to everyone: say that you think the Reds would be better by letting him go. Say his time here didn't produce what we all had hoped. But I believe people should show him the respect he's earned during a career that few have matched.

Jack Burton
06-25-2008, 09:48 PM
Awfully harsh on one of the best ever to play the game! Arroyo... yeah the peanuts and shasta agreed. But, trading a shoe-in to Cooperstown on the first ballot for a bag of peanuts? I'm just not real sure about that one.

Maybe we could get 'em to throw in a bag of swedish fish.

Newman4
06-26-2008, 01:48 AM
Me and (fellow starter Aaron) Harang, both. "

Arroyo puts himself in the same boat as Harang. :rolleyes:

Harang's ERA even with his struggles is 2 runs less than BA.

Layney
06-28-2008, 05:01 PM
Is Arroyo starting in a DAY GAME on Sunday? Oh dear God. I can see the headline in Monday morning's paper now: "Arroyo becomes first pitcher to allow 25 runs in one inning."