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OnBaseMachine
06-24-2008, 12:37 PM
PROSPECT OF THE DAY

Todd Frazier (Reds) got off to a scorching start with low Class A Dayton, and has been very solid since being promoted to high Class A Sarasota. But like many other Florida State League hitters, he has found that the hot, muggy summer days does make hitting home runs a little more difficult.

Frazier went deep on Monday for his sixth home run since being promoted to Sarasota in early May. After hitting four home runs in May, it was only Frazierís second homer this month. While his power may have dropped, Frazier has sharpened his batting eye. Heís hitting .344 this month, and has only 13 strikeouts in 61 at-bats, after striking out 21 times in 74 at-bats last month.

PROSPECT NUGGETS

There was a time when Rafael Gonzalez was considered one of the Redsí top pitching prospects. Those days are gone. His fastball doesnít have the zip it used to have, which explains why opponents are hitting .309 against him. The righthander has not made it through the sixth inning in any of his 10 starts, as he dropped to 3-5, 7.63 on Monday . . .

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=1214#more-1214

Homer Bailey
06-24-2008, 05:28 PM
Think Frazier has a shot at AA this year?

OnBaseMachine
06-24-2008, 05:30 PM
Think Frazier has a shot at AA this year?

I'd like to see him get a month in Chattanooga but I'm not sure if the Reds will promote him or not.

Sea Ray
06-24-2008, 05:42 PM
Where is Frazier playing these days? SS?

camisadelgolf
06-24-2008, 05:59 PM
Where is Frazier playing these days? SS?

2008 games played by position:
1B 17
3B 7
SS 24
LF 8
DH 11

However, lately, he's been playing more first base than anything else. This is probably because he's been sharing a lineup with Juan Francisco, Jose Castro, and Daniel Perales. He also shared some time with Chris Valaika, too.

GoReds33
06-24-2008, 06:55 PM
I agree with OBM, I'd like to see him get a month at AA. It would be nice to have him move up two levels this year, which would put him on track to take a big league spot mid to late 2009. The guy flat-out hits, and you can't keep him in A ball all year, expecially if he starts hitting like he did in Dayton.

ChatterRed
06-25-2008, 04:26 PM
He should already be in double AA.

TRF
06-25-2008, 04:35 PM
It's ok to let these guys learn their craft at appropriate levels. Castro is quickly turning into a non prospect. I'd have Frazier at SS until he proves he can't handle the position.

dougdirt
06-25-2008, 04:38 PM
It's ok to let these guys learn their craft at appropriate levels. Castro is quickly turning into a non prospect. I'd have Frazier at SS until he proves he can't handle the position.

he has proven he can't handle the position. He just isn't good there. He doesn't have the range and he makes plenty of errors.

TRF
06-25-2008, 04:45 PM
he has proven he can't handle the position. He just isn't good there. He doesn't have the range and he makes plenty of errors.

didn't realize that. so what is his best position? 3B or LF?

IslandRed
06-25-2008, 05:46 PM
didn't realize that. so what is his best position? 3B or LF?

Based on how they've been moving him all over the place lately, I think that's what they're trying to figure out.

Scrap Irony
06-26-2008, 10:58 AM
I'm again harping on the belief that Frazier would be an ideal CF. He's quick, has a decent arm, and should be ideal there, assuming the work, he should be above average in as little as two years.

Can the Reds wait that long?

OnBaseMachine
06-26-2008, 11:04 AM
I'm again harping on the belief that Frazier would be an ideal CF. He's quick, has a decent arm, and should be ideal there, assuming the work, he should be above average in as little as two years.

Can the Reds wait that long?

Frazier a big boy at 6'3" 215 and his speed is considered average and he lacks first-step quickness, which is the main reason he won't stick at SS. Those same weaknesses apply in center field. Frazier will most likely end up at third base or left field, with the former being the most likely since I think Votto will end up in LF when Yonder Alonso arrives.

Blitz Dorsey
06-26-2008, 12:33 PM
Yeah, I think Frazier is our 3B of the future. And it's good that he is getting reps at 1B as well so we have a RHH that can spell Yonder at 1B at times.

Votto will either be LF or traded IMO. I hope we don't trade him. I like Votto's bat very much and think he's going to be an excellent hitter for years. And unlike a guy like Sean Casey (not to pick on one of my favorite Reds, but still...) I think Votto will get better with time and will add even more power to his game. Casey always had a weird looping swing that didn't produce much power. He golfed most of his HRs. Votto on the other hand strikes the ball hard and has a very nice swing IMO. He is just going to pick up more and more power as his career progresses.

OnBaseMachine
07-03-2008, 03:59 PM
Q: Kyle from Middletown asks:
Did Todd Frazier get any consideration? Do you think he is about ready for AA? How about an ETA?

A: Ben Badler: I think he's a significantly better prospect than Juan Francisco, so I would base Frazier's assignment around what's best for Frazier's development. He's playing some shortstop, but I'd give him some time at third base at Chattanooga before the end of the season. It's not a bad idea to give him more time in the FSL, but the sooner he can develop his defensive skills at a corner position the better, and he can develop his fielding at any level.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/chat.php?id=2008070301&rnd=17

Brutus
07-03-2008, 04:05 PM
I'd like to see him get a month in Chattanooga but I'm not sure if the Reds will promote him or not.

I'll be very surprised if he's not promoted late in the season. Though Jocketty is new on the Cincinnati block, the organization has typically done an organizational-wide shift around mid to late August.

I think he'll see some plate appearances in 'Nooga at some point this season.

gedred69
07-03-2008, 08:02 PM
The front office may be hesitant to create something of a log jam, as they are still evaluating whether or not Valaika figures in the future. Both have been promoted since the season started. Notice both have played other positions besides SS, so maybe we'll see either in other positions. Didn't I see a post from the Minor League guru Doug Dirt saying Frazier was not an SS prospect? Where is he projected?

dougdirt
07-03-2008, 08:06 PM
Todd Frazier is not a shortstop. He can't even pretend to be a SS really.

Mario-Rijo
07-04-2008, 02:12 AM
The front office may be hesitant to create something of a log jam, as they are still evaluating whether or not Valaika figures in the future. Both have been promoted since the season started. Notice both have played other positions besides SS, so maybe we'll see either in other positions. Didn't I see a post from the Minor League guru Doug Dirt saying Frazier was not an SS prospect? Where is he projected?

He may play 3rd depending on his hands I would think. His arm is good enough to play there I believe. But if not LF seems like the logical place. Problem is we have so many guys lining up at LF and 2B that's it's rediculous. One of these guys or one of the guys at the top will have to eventually be a part of a deal to make room for everyone. Frazier though might be one of the safer guys to stick around. We need some good up the middle guys to emerge somewhat quickly.

camisadelgolf
07-04-2008, 09:09 AM
He may play 3rd depending on his hands I would think. His arm is good enough to play there I believe. But if not LF seems like the logical place. Problem is we have so many guys lining up at LF and 2B that's it's rediculous. One of these guys or one of the guys at the top will have to eventually be a part of a deal to make room for everyone. Frazier though might be one of the safer guys to stick around. We need some good up the middle guys to emerge somewhat quickly.

Who are the second base prospects you're thinking of? Or did you mean third base (since it's much more likely that Frazier would end up there).

As for second base prospects, I think of Justin Turner, the just-drafted Alex Buchholz, and maybe Chris Valaika. As for left field, the only serious outfield prospect the Reds have who is limited only to left field, in my mind, is Danny Dorn.

gedred69
07-05-2008, 01:09 PM
Who are the second base prospects you're thinking of? Or did you mean third base (since it's much more likely that Frazier would end up there).

As for second base prospects, I think of Justin Turner, the just-drafted Alex Buchholz, and maybe Chris Valaika. As for left field, the only serious outfield prospect the Reds have who is limited only to left field, in my mind, is Danny Dorn.

Agree with you on Dorn. Hope he avoids further injury, his clock is ticking. I have only seen him in ST squad play. Anyone seen enough of him in the field to comment on his defensive skills?

dougdirt
07-05-2008, 02:01 PM
Dorn isn't the best defender ever in LF, but he is an upgrade over Adam Dunn defensively.

Mario-Rijo
07-05-2008, 05:01 PM
Who are the second base prospects you're thinking of? Or did you mean third base (since it's much more likely that Frazier would end up there).

As for second base prospects, I think of Justin Turner, the just-drafted Alex Buchholz, and maybe Chris Valaika. As for left field, the only serious outfield prospect the Reds have who is limited only to left field, in my mind, is Danny Dorn.

No I meant 2B at the time. Not because there are a host of guys playing there currently but because we don't seem to have many IF's who project (at this point) in the IF on the left side at the major league level. If you were to only list guys based on their likely defensive projections and not taking into consideration their offense at all, what would we have. Just taking guys who I think have any glimmer of a chance to even make it to MLB right now. I should also add that I think the default positions for those not gifted enough to play CF,RF,SS,3B usually end up at 2B or LF and occasionally 1B.

Most ideal positions as seen currently IMO
C - Hanigan, Mes
1B - Alonso*, Gutierrez, Waring
2B - Valaika, Turner
SS - Janish, Cozart, Castro
3B - Frazier, Soto, Bucholz
LF - Dorn, Heisey
CF - Dickerson, Henry, Stubbs, Reed
RF - Cumberland, Francisco (will he have the range to play RF?), Phipps

Others who I know less about their defense.
Adam Rosales (3B or 2B Ideally?)
Erick Eyeman (3B or 2B?)
Michael Griffin (Is he even a prospect anymore, and where does he fit best?)

When taking offense into equation (Meaning will they be good enough offensively to even make it):
C - Hanigan, Mes
1B - Alonso
2B - Valaika, Turner, Rosales
SS - Janish (this is questionable at best)
3B - Frazier, Soto, Bucholz
LF - Dorn
CF - Cumberland
RF - Cumberland

gedred69
07-05-2008, 05:15 PM
Dorn isn't the best defender ever in LF, but he is an upgrade over Adam Dunn defensively.

Okay, he's better than Dunn---which may not say a whole lot. Since you've seen him what are some specifics, i.e. got any speed? What's his arm like? Anybody you could compare him to?

Scrap Irony
07-05-2008, 11:25 PM
Have you seen Valaika play? He's not that bad at SS. Good arm, average range, good instincts, and a solid to above average glove.

He's Keppinger with a bit more speed and a bunch more K's. Defensively, he's Keppinger with a step more range.

To say he's a 2B at this point is wrong, IMO.

And Cumberland is a CF, make no mistake. He's above average out there and could play defensively right now. Good range, good arm, and above average speed.

His bat, IMO, is questionable, but not his glove.