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redhawk61
06-30-2008, 01:15 PM
Players listed our prospects who have a better than average shot (in my book) at making it to the ML level. Also the numbers given are not cumulative over the whole season if a player was promoted. The numbers given are from alone at the level they are at now, those players are mark with a *

AAA Louisville:
Chris Dickerson CF-.264/.369/.394 3HR's, 27 RBI's, 17 SB; hitting .286 with 2 doubles 1 RBI and 7BB's over the past 10 games
Drew T. Anderson LF- .285/.328/.448 5HR's 45 RBI's; hitting .325 with 3 doubles 2 Triples 1 HR and 9 RBI's over the last 10
Ryan Hannigan C- .295/.373/.386 3 HR's 22 RBI's; hitting .368 with 4 Doubles 1 HR and 1 RBI over last 10
Adam Rosales IF- .237/.295/.383 6 HR's 37 RBI's; hitting .341 with 3 Doubles 4 HR's 12 RBI's over past 10

AA Chattanooga:
*Michael DeJesus 2b .342/.432/.447 1 HR 5 RBI's; hitting .294 over last 10
*Justin Turner 2b .255/.349/.396 3HR's 21 RBI's; hitting .270 with 2 doubles 2 HR's 6 RBI's 7BB's over last 10
Shaun Cumberland OF .315/.405/.491 8HR's 26 RBI's 12SB 34BB's:40K's; hitting .353 with 1 double, 1 triple, 4 RBI's, 3 SB's over last 10
*Sean Henry RF .294/.364/.461 6HR's 36RBI's 8SB's; hitting .361 with 2 doubles 1HR 5 RBI's over last 10
*Daniel Dorn LF- .260/.368/.466 5HR's 20 RBI's; hitting .258 with 3 double 2 HR's 5RBI's over last 10
*Chris Valaika SS .280/.345/.430 5 HR's 20 RBI's; hitting .268 with 3 doubles 1 HR 3 RBI's over last 10

High A Sarasota:
*Chris Heisey RF- .280/.376/.423 3 HR's 33 RBI's 17 SB; hitting .308 with 2 doubles,2 triples 5RBI's 3SB's over last 10
*Todd Fraizer 1b/3b/LF- .304/.363/.491 6 HR's 28 RBI's; hitting .351 with 1 double 1 HR and 5RBI's over last 10
Juan Fransisco 3b- .270/.287/.453 11 HR's 48 RBI's; hitting .195 with 3 doubles 1HR 5 RBI's over last 10
Drew Stubbs CF- .255/.364/.378 3 HR's 30RBI's 25 SB's; hitting .143 with 3 RBI's and 3 SB's over last 10

Low A Dayton:
Keltavious Jones OF- .274/.351/.390 4 HR's 19 RBI's 16 SB's; hitting .279 with 1 triple 1HR 3RBI's and 2 SB's over last 10
Zach Cozart SS- .258/.318/.475 9 HR's 23 RBI's; hitting .302 4 doubles 1 triple 3 HR's 5 RBI's over last 10
Devin Mesoraco C- .273/.329/.388 3 HR's 17 RBI's; hitting .220 2 doubles 4 RBI's over last 10
Justin Reed OF- .252/.330/.416 7 HR's 24 RBI's 15 SB's; hitting .243 2 doubles 1 triple 1 HR 2 RBI's over last 10
Brandon Waring 3b- .278/.358/.500 15 HR's 47 RBI's; hitting .394 2 doubles 3HR's 6RBI's over last 10

Rookie Ball Billings(only played 13 games, so no 10 game summaries):
Andrew Means OF-.286/.286/.286 1 RBI 2SB's
Kyle Day C- .250/.429/.313 1 RBI
Alex Buchholz SS- .400/.471/.576 6 RBI's
Neftali Soto SS/3b- .356/.396/.756 4 HR's 9 RBI's
David Sapplet OF- .300/.344/.433 5 RBI's 2 SB's
Tyler Stovall OF- .464/.543/.571 4 RBI's

Rookie Ball GCL Reds (only played 9 games):
Yen Wen Kuo 2b- .379/.400/.444 6 RBI's
Frank Pfister 3b- .429/.485/.571 9 RBI's
Efrain Contreras OF- .346/.486/.538 10 RBI's

Dominican Summer League:
Juan Duran OF- .286/.409/.486 4 RBI's 2 SB's; hitting .303 with 1 double 3 triple's 4 RBI's 2 SB's over last 10

I'll get around to the pitchers sometime today probably.

juvey21
06-30-2008, 01:40 PM
would ryan hannigan be a possible upgrade over the 3 stellar catchers we have here?? i would like to hear some other opinions.

princeton
06-30-2008, 01:47 PM
would ryan hannigan be a possible upgrade over the 3 stellar catchers we have here?? i would like to hear some other opinions.


my opinion is that a cardboard cutout of Johnny Bench would be an upgrade

my other opinion is that Redhawk thinks too highly of the Billings hitters if he thinks that all of those guys have a better than average shot.

GoReds33
06-30-2008, 01:49 PM
my opinion is that a cardboard cutout of Johnny Bench would be an upgrade

my other opinion is that Redhawk thinks too highly of the Billings hitters if he thinks that all of those guys have a better than average shot.I think that Johnny Bench now, even at his age would be better.

redhawk61
06-30-2008, 02:08 PM
my opinion is that a cardboard cutout of Johnny Bench would be an upgrade

my other opinion is that Redhawk thinks too highly of the Billings hitters if he thinks that all of those guys have a better than average shot.

I think I do to, but once I got down to Rookie ball level its kinda hard to judge who has a shot so I just went with those who are having some fairly good years thus far

truly out of that group I only see Soto, Buchholz, and Sapplet as guys who once they get High A/AA being considered serious prospects. I put Means and Day cause I like what they bring to the table and Stovall cause he is a local guy

mound_patrol
06-30-2008, 02:48 PM
my opinion is that a cardboard cutout of Johnny Bench would be an upgrade

my other opinion is that Redhawk thinks too highly of the Billings hitters if he thinks that all of those guys have a better than average shot.

At this point in those players careers its hard to tell...Alot can change for those guys in 2 to 3 years.

reds44
06-30-2008, 02:49 PM
would ryan hannigan be a possible upgrade over the 3 stellar catchers we have here?? i would like to hear some other opinions.
Same thing could be said about Dickerson over Patterson.

AmarilloRed
06-30-2008, 04:00 PM
would ryan hannigan be a possible upgrade over the 3 stellar catchers we have here?? i would like to hear some other opinions.

I would have to say yes. His OBP has risen from .333 last year in Louisville to .373 this year. His BA has also risen from .252 last year to .295 this year. He has shown some improvement as a hitter this year. As far as fielding, he has thrown out 26 of 69 baserunners this year; I think that is pretty good.

juvey21
06-30-2008, 04:14 PM
I would have to say yes. His OBP has risen from .333 last year in Louisville to .373 this year. His BA has also risen from .252 last year to .295 this year. He has shown some improvement as a hitter this year. As far as fielding, he has thrown out 26 of 69 baserunners this year; I think that is pretty good.

if the reds continue to fall back i say we dump/trade ross and bako keep valentin for his pinch hitting bat and his versatility defensively...bring hannigan up and see what we got!! The 2 main prorities this off season should be to stabilize the catcher position and bring in some RH batters that can balance out this lineup...IMO

BRM
06-30-2008, 05:05 PM
Valentin has versatility defensively? If by versatility you mean he stinks at 3 different positions, I agree.

juvey21
06-30-2008, 09:47 PM
Valentin has versatility defensively? If by versatility you mean he stinks at 3 different positions, I agree.

well yes i think we all on this board know he stinks defensivly...what i meant was he is able to "play" at three positions which could give someone a day off. if i had my way he wouldnt even be on the team

RedlegJake
07-01-2008, 12:45 AM
The main thing holding Hanigan back is a total lack of power. I mean no power whatsoever pretty much not even 2B power. His OBP has always been high and he's a decent defensive player. Roll him and Tatum into one guy and we'd have a big league catcher.

Blitz Dorsey
07-01-2008, 01:32 AM
BTW, it's Hanigan... and I'm sure he will be one of the backup catchers next year. Hopefully the only backup catcher. Would be nice to go out and find someone who can be the everyday starter and then have Hanigan as the backup. I'm not even looking for anyone special at this point to be the starter; I'd even take someone like John Buck. Plus, the Royals might want to keep Olivo, so Buck could be expendable for cheap.

Will M
07-01-2008, 12:44 PM
BTW, it's Hanigan... and I'm sure he will be one of the backup catchers next year. Hopefully the only backup catcher. Would be nice to go out and find someone who can be the everyday starter and then have Hanigan as the backup. I'm not even looking for anyone special at this point to be the starter; I'd even take someone like John Buck. Plus, the Royals might want to keep Olivo, so Buck could be expendable for cheap.

agree. no reason to spend $1-2M on a backup catcher if we have someone who can do the job for the minimum. The Reds can also go out and sign another guy to a minor league deal for extra insurance ( like they did with Bako ).

Will M
07-01-2008, 12:46 PM
I'd like to see Dickerson here this year to get some major league at bats. He has speed, some power and plays good defense in CF.
He has hit righties well this year. Could be a cheap 4th/5th OF next year.

RedlegJake
07-02-2008, 12:27 AM
BTW, it's Hanigan... and I'm sure he will be one of the backup catchers next year. Hopefully the only backup catcher. Would be nice to go out and find someone who can be the everyday starter and then have Hanigan as the backup. I'm not even looking for anyone special at this point to be the starter; I'd even take someone like John Buck. Plus, the Royals might want to keep Olivo, so Buck could be expendable for cheap.

Blitz I'd love to get Buck if someone like Ramirez or Marson can't be had. He is a solid defensive catcher with a bit of pop - at GAB maybe 20 HRs. He'd be a definite upgrade over Bako or Ross and Hanigan would be a solid reserve. And like you said he could be had for relatively little, I think. It would allow the Reds to concentrate their trading chips and dollars on other holes.

Mario-Rijo
07-02-2008, 02:35 AM
Blitz I'd love to get Buck if someone like Ramirez or Marson can't be had. He is a solid defensive catcher with a bit of pop - at GAB maybe 20 HRs. He'd be a definite upgrade over Bako or Ross and Hanigan would be a solid reserve. And like you said he could be had for relatively little, I think. It would allow the Reds to concentrate their trading chips and dollars on other holes.

Do you guys really think he can be had for little? He was a prominent catching prospect just a few years back. If so he's my new favorite target with Hanigan a solid backup option. We could also try to re-sign Bako to a minor league deal if nothing else comes to fruition for him.