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LouisvilleCARDS
07-03-2008, 10:32 PM
Can someone explain to me how it works at the end of the year? I keep hearing if we don't sign Dunn and Dunn gets signed by someone else, we get two first round picks for him. How does this work? Does he have to reject arbitration or something like that? I've never really understood the whole process. Also is it possible we could do the same with other players, like Junior or anyone else who is a free agent?

ELCABALLO45
07-03-2008, 10:39 PM
Free agents are put into 3 differnt types.

Type A
Type B
Type C

If a type A FA signs with another team, you get 2 first round draft picks for losing your player

LouisvilleCARDS
07-03-2008, 10:40 PM
Supplementary, or do you actually get the OTHER teams picks?

And if Griffey accepts a buyout (or doesn't and just lets off of that clause), do we get a pick?

Brutus
07-03-2008, 10:41 PM
Basically it's like this:

All players are ranked by the Elias Sports Bureau, assigned a rating and grouped by position. The top 20 percent of players in their group are considered "Type A" players, and if they're lost in free agency, the team that signs the player gives up a first round draft pick to the former team as well as a compensation pick in the sandwich round goes to the former team.

All Type B free agents (percentiles 21-40) give a sandwich pick to the former team.

Dunn is considered a "Type A" free agent and would give the Reds two picks.

Brutus
07-03-2008, 10:45 PM
Supplementary, or do you actually get the OTHER teams picks?

And if Griffey accepts a buyout (or doesn't and just lets off of that clause), do we get a pick?

No, accepting a buyout does not merit a pick. However, player options that are not exercised do merit a pick assuming the player is a Type A or Type B. I believe team options that are declined do not merit picks, but I'd have to check on that.

LouisvilleCARDS
07-03-2008, 10:51 PM
Ah, alright, thanks for the info. I know we have a lot of money off the books this year, so if we could get picks for them, it would be awesome.

LouisvilleCARDS
07-03-2008, 10:58 PM
Who are the other players up for free agency?

OesterPoster
07-03-2008, 11:05 PM
Who are the other players up for free agency?

Off the top of my head, I think...

Lincoln
Affeldt
Fogg
Bako
Hairston
Patterson
Hopper?

Just remember, "losing" Rich Aurilia resulted in the sandwich pick of Todd Frazier.

bellhead
07-04-2008, 11:27 AM
Dunn is well worth carrying to the end of the year for two first round picks, unless someone gives us a center field prospect who can be a 10 year starter and a pitching prospect who will play in the majors. Or a great deal.